Face to Face Ministries Podcast
Hosts Cathy Little and Melinda Wilson, co-founders of Face to Face Ministries, talk about what it means to walk in true freedom, inner healing (heart and emotional healing), and wholeness, accessing all that Jesus represents. They also include interviews with key leaders of several inner healing models that are available to help you find it. www.facetofaceministries.org
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E157 - Tara Boothby | Attachment, Healing, and Love
09/12/2024
E157 - Tara Boothby | Attachment, Healing, and Love
In this episode your hosts Melinda Wilson and Cathy Little engage in a deep, thought-provoking conversation with Tara Boothby, a registered psychologist and author of 'Love and Love's Energy'. Join us as we delve into the profound connection between attachment theory and Jesus’ love. Tara shares her journey from aspiring camp director to psychologist, the importance of emotional awareness, and the concept of 'love energy.' We explore the transformative power of accepting and expressing emotions, and how understanding attachment styles can lead to deeper, more fulfilling relationships with ourselves and others. Plus, Tara offers practical advice on starting your own journey towards self-compassion and emotional health. Don't miss out on this enriching conversation filled with wisdom, vulnerability, and actionable insights that can help you experience true and lasting transformation in your life.
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E156 - Felicia Murrell | Faith, Love, and Transformation - Pt 2
08/23/2024
E156 - Felicia Murrell | Faith, Love, and Transformation - Pt 2
In our latest episode, join us as we dive into Part 2 of our insightful conversation with Felicia Murrell. Don't miss this episode where Felicia shares her profound journey, discusses the unity of body, spirit, and soul, and talks about the importance of curiosity in faith. This episode is rich with wisdom, spiritual revelations, and heartfelt conversations that will inspire and challenge you. Plus, stay updated with the latest from Face to Face Ministries and find out how you can get involved in their transformative trainings and upcoming events. Subscribe, give us a 5-star rating, and leave a review if you enjoyed the episode!
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E155 - Felicia Murrell | Faith, Love, and Transformation, Pt. 1
08/08/2024
E155 - Felicia Murrell | Faith, Love, and Transformation, Pt. 1
In this episode, we are thrilled to present Part 1 of our conversation with the ever delightful Felicia Murrell. Felicia is a spiritual companion, speaker, and author, who brings profound insights into the journey of embracing one's true self and understanding the transformative power of Love, with a capital L. Tune in as she shares her perspective on healing, embodying our true selves, and the cosmic okay-ness of being authentically present in our lives. Her wisdom and warmth are captivating. We know you're going to love her! Be sure to grab a copy of her book “And: The Restorative Power of Love in an Either/Or World”
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E154 | Josh Hoffert Part 2 | Understanding the Desert Fathers and Mothers: A Journey into Spiritual Solitude and Growth
07/16/2024
E154 | Josh Hoffert Part 2 | Understanding the Desert Fathers and Mothers: A Journey into Spiritual Solitude and Growth
In this episode, hosts Melinda Wilson and Cathy Little are joined for Part 2 with Josh Hoffert for an in-depth discussion on the Desert Fathers and Mothers. The conversation explores the ancient practice of retreating into the desert to find spiritual solitude and experience inner healing. Josh shares insights from his research and his book, "Silent Fire: The Collection," offering practical wisdom on how modern listeners can incorporate these spiritual disciplines into their busy lives. The episode delves into the transformative power of solitude, the importance of community, and the profound benefits of letting go of distractions to connect more deeply with God. The discussion is both informative and practical, providing listeners with actionable steps to enhance their spiritual journey. "Silent Fire: The Collection" is available at
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E153 - Josh Hoffert | Navigating Trauma & Transformation with Wisdom from the Desert Fathers and Mothers
07/02/2024
E153 - Josh Hoffert | Navigating Trauma & Transformation with Wisdom from the Desert Fathers and Mothers
In this episode, hosts Melinda Wilson and Cathy Little reconnect with one of their previous guests, Josh Hoffert. They discuss the significance of having a healed heart, connecting deeply with Jesus, and fostering true and lasting transformation. Josh shares insights from his personal journey, his experiences with Streams Ministries, and the founding of Wind Ministries. They delve into topics such as confronting personal trauma, the differences between secular and Christian approaches to emotional maturity, and reestablishing vibrant, loving Christian communities that embody the teachings of Jesus. Join the conversation for valuable lessons on spiritual growth and emotional health. Check out Josh's new book "Silent Fire: The Collection" available at .
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E152 - Mike and Ruth Jones | Navigating Trauma and Building Joy
06/18/2024
E152 - Mike and Ruth Jones | Navigating Trauma and Building Joy
In this episode of the Face to Face Ministries podcast, hosts Melinda Wilson and Cathy Little introduce guests Mike and Ruth Jones from the UK. Mike, an English vicar, and Ruth, a Northern Irish inner healing minister and coach, share their experiences and the work they are doing in Luton, England. The conversation covers a variety of topics including the Jones' personal journeys of healing from trauma, their incorporation of brain science and relational skills in ministry, and their unique international church context. They also discuss specific methods and tools they use for inner healing, such as the HeartSync model and Life Model skills, sharing compelling stories of transformation. The episode closes with a mention of Ruth joining the pool of available prayer ministers on the Face to Face Ministries website, offering services like joy skills coaching and HeartSync sessions.
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E151 - Wm Paul Young | Part 2 | Conversations about Life and Death
06/04/2024
E151 - Wm Paul Young | Part 2 | Conversations about Life and Death
In this episode of the Face to Face Ministries podcast, hosts Melinda Wilson and Cathy Little engage in an in-depth conversation with Paul Young, the author and thought leader known for his profound insights into faith, love, and redemption. The discussion delves into Paul’s perspective on heaven and hell, the nature of death, and the transformative power of love and reconciliation. Drawing from personal stories and theological reflections, Paul offers a moving and enlightening view of what it means to heal and find hope beyond our earthly experiences. Don't miss this inspiring episode filled with wisdom, vulnerability, and powerful narratives.
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E150 - Wm. Paul Young | Trust, Healing, and Staying Present
05/21/2024
E150 - Wm. Paul Young | Trust, Healing, and Staying Present
All physical healing is temporary. Even raising the dead is temporary... what do you think would be more important? to be physically healed of a malady or learn how to stay present." - Paul Young Join us for another powerful conversation with our friend, and the author of bestselling book, The Shack, Wm. Paul Young. Paul always brings the gold and this episode is no exception. We talk about what he calls, "future tripping" and the power of learning to stay in the grace of just one day (which is not easy to do!). He also talks about his relationship with epilepsy which has been with him for the past few years. Paul recently started his own podcast which we both absolutely LOVE. He is releasing 12-15 minute episodes twice a week. Check it out at
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E149 - Jill Wolf | Lets Talk About the Healing Journey
05/07/2024
E149 - Jill Wolf | Lets Talk About the Healing Journey
We are back from a 5 month hiatus with guest, Jill Wolf, who has been helping bring the vision Face to Face Ministries carries to the next level. Jill joined the team in July 2023 as Program Designer, helping us build out our CORE training program which is raising up healthy heart healers with proficiency in the Immanuel Approach. She is now our acting Executive Director. In this episode you will get to know her and hear some of her personal healing journey. Also, find out what the team has been buildling on top of what they have already built over the past 9 months. We hope you will get excited about what is coming next week as we invite you to embark on and dive more deeply into your own healing journey! Join us May 13-17, 2024 for the Connect with Jesus Challenge online event.
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E148 - On the Other Side of the Interview with Hosts Cathy and Melinda
01/09/2024
E148 - On the Other Side of the Interview with Hosts Cathy and Melinda
We had the privilege of joining nearly 60 Immanuel Approach Prayer ministers last week ministering to over 450 InterVarsity Staff members at their conference in Orlando. While there, we were interviewed in front of our peers by Nate Harkness, a fellow Immanuel Prayer minister who is the Director of International Ministries at World Discipleship Association in Fayetteville, GA. As hosts of this show, you get to hear bits and pieces from us as we interview others, but it's not often we share our hearts to the extent we do in this episode. In this conversation, you will learn some of the things we're passionate about. For more about us, the Immanuel Approach, and how we are raising up people to help others connect with Jesus, please join us Jan 22-26, 2024 for the Connect Others with Jesus Challenge Sign up up at .
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E147 - Steve McVey Part 2 | Grace Walk Ministries | Finding God in the Quantum Realm
12/19/2023
E147 - Steve McVey Part 2 | Grace Walk Ministries | Finding God in the Quantum Realm
Join us for Part 2 of our intriguing conversation with author and teacher, Steve McVey, as he shares insights from his latest book trilogy - "Quantum Life," "Quantum Faith," and "Quantum Prayer." Discover the limitless possibilities of life as you delve beneath the surface and find a deeper appreciation for a God who is pure love and who invites us to be part of advancing his kingdom on earth. Prepare to be amazed by the wonders of quantum living and the boundless nature of our Creator and get a new perspective of the God you thought you knew.
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E146 - Steve McVey Part 1 | Grace Walk Ministries | A Better Gospel
12/05/2023
E146 - Steve McVey Part 1 | Grace Walk Ministries | A Better Gospel
Embark on a transformative journey with Steve Mcvey from Grace Walk Ministries as he guides us to see theology through a more accurate lens. In this illuminating podcast, Steve unveils the richness of the gospel, inviting listeners to discover its profound depth and beauty. Join us to explore a perspective that reveals just how much better the gospel is than we've ever known, and let Steve Mcvey inspire a fresh understanding of grace and theology.
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E145 - Bill and Kristi Gaultiere | Soul Shepherding, Spiritual Direction, and The Enneagram
10/16/2023
E145 - Bill and Kristi Gaultiere | Soul Shepherding, Spiritual Direction, and The Enneagram
Our guests in today's episode are both doctors of psychology and the founders of Soul Shepherding. Together they have trained thousands of pastors, spiritual directors, leaders, missionaries, and coaches. Bill and Kristi Gaultiere have a huge heart not just for leaders, but for everyone in general to experience greater freedom and healing in their lives. We also talk about their new book, "Healthy Feelings, Thriving Faith: Growing Emotionally and Spiritually Through the Enneagram" where they explore the beautiful and powerful tool, the Enneagram, in the context of spiritual direction and Jesus-Centered psychology.
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E144 - Hosts Cathy and Melinda | Why We Do What We Do and An Invitation
09/26/2023
E144 - Hosts Cathy and Melinda | Why We Do What We Do and An Invitation
In today's episode, hosts Cathy and Melinda share some of their "why" behind what they do. What drives their passion for you to know and experience Jesus in a tangible way? How can an interactive connection with him literally change your life? What are some of the practical ways that the Immanuel Approach tools can be woven into your day-to-day life? Join them for a heartfelt discussion, and join them for the Connect Others with Jesus Challenege, October 2-6, 2023. Hear more about the model and how they are raising up heart healers through a new training program designed to help you become proficient with the tools.
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E143 - Donna Winship | Identity Exchange
08/29/2023
E143 - Donna Winship | Identity Exchange
"Faith is not intellectual. It is experiential. It is Transformational - not Transactional." "God showed up? No - YOU showed up. He is already here!" “You can’t give away what you don’t have. I was giving away fear, shame, doubt, unworthiness, feeling alone, powerless - these were false identities. If you can say “I am” in front of it, it’s an identity." "Jesus came to usher in the Kingdom of God, not create Christianity." These are just a few of the gems from our guest, Donna Winship, who with her husband, Jamie, founded Identity Exchange. They are committed to "helping unlock the transformative power of knowing your true identity." This conversation is rich with personal story and revelation that is bringing freedom and healing to many as they step into who they truly are, and understand more of who God is and how he feels about them. Learn more about Donna and Jamie at . And get Jamie's new book, available now on Amazon.
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E142 - Jason Clark, Part 2 of 2 | Author and Relational Theologian | Leaving and Finding Jesus
07/04/2023
E142 - Jason Clark, Part 2 of 2 | Author and Relational Theologian | Leaving and Finding Jesus
"When you have separation at the foundation of your theology, then retribution is part of your paradigm." "A God who looks away will create sons and daughters that can justify looking away. And a God who punishes will create leaders who are justified in punishing - and it's going to create bullies." "You can't flip a table (referencing Jesus in the Temple) if you're not willing to lay your life down for the person on the other side of the table. This is what we are missing. It becomes 'us' and 'them.' But, Jesus died for the person on the other side of the table." Welcome back for Part 2 of our paradigm shifting conversation with author and relational theologian, Jason Clark. We are exploring some things in this conversation that may potentiall bother you, but they may also resonate deeply with you. Our invitation is to ask Jesus for yourself. It is safe to ask questions. At the end of the day, let greater love be your compass. More about Jason at Be sure to catch his podcast, "Rethinking God with Tacos" available on all platforms @jasonclarkis on all the socials Grab your copy of today.
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E141 - Jason Clark, Part 1 of 2 | Author and Relational Theologian | Leaving and Finding Jesus
06/27/2023
E141 - Jason Clark, Part 1 of 2 | Author and Relational Theologian | Leaving and Finding Jesus
Desparation (being 'desparate' for God) is often considered a high water mark for Christendom. But as Jason quotes speaker and author, Graham Cooke, "A relationship where the son is always desparate for the father is dysfunctional." We're going deep with our friend, Jason Clark, whom you may remember from Episode 105 in our podcast. Jason will shake your theology in a good way as he challenges us to explore what it means live out of our union with God. The invitation is yours to step into the great freedom that comes from realizing that God never leaves. He is always with us. He is continually reconciling all things to himself. We may not always be aware, but we are invited to awaken. Plus, we've all probably looked at the Parable of the Sower through the lens of wanting to be good soil... but what if it's more about the sower and the seed? Hang on for a paradigm shift! Don't miss part 2 coming soon! Find more from Jason at , and @jasonclarkis on all the socials. Check out his new book, available on his website and at Amazon.com and his podcast "Rethinking God with Tacos," available on all platforms.
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E140 - Dr. Karl Lehman, MD | Pt 2 of 2 | Immanuel Approach, InterVarsity, and Mirror Neurons
06/13/2023
E140 - Dr. Karl Lehman, MD | Pt 2 of 2 | Immanuel Approach, InterVarsity, and Mirror Neurons
"If you want to learn something, watch someone do what you want to learn. As you watch. your brain will begin downloading and copying, changing like the person who is demonstrating. You will start demonstrating the skill simply by watching. "When you engage with the living presence ofJesus, the right hemisphere of your brain is watching Jesus. Your brain is literally becoming more like the mind of Christ." In Part 2 of our recent conversation with Dr. Karl Lehman, MD, hear the how and why behind InterVarsity embracing The Immanuel Approach for all their staff and students. You'll also learn some brain science about the fascinating power of mirror neurons. Be sure to listen to the front of this podcast as Cathy and Melinda share some important opportunities ahead for the ministry, and how you can be part of it. Thank you for being part of our podcast family!
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EP 139 - Dr. Karl Lehman, MD | Pt. 1 of 2 | The Immanuel Approach From a Much Bigger Perspective
05/30/2023
EP 139 - Dr. Karl Lehman, MD | Pt. 1 of 2 | The Immanuel Approach From a Much Bigger Perspective
"When it comes to improving mental and emotional health: What if you could make it more efficient? What if you could make it more gentle? What if you could make it consistently and predictably more effective?" Join us for another conversation with our mentor, Dr. Karl Lehman MD, founder of The Immanuel Approach, as we take a look at this model from a much bigger perspective. The Immanuel Approach is not just about inner healing. That is simply one item on the buffet. It's also about spiritual formation, true discipleship, developing greater discernment, receiving comfort directly from Jesus, learning how to interact with and process things with Jesus, and practice more powerful intercession. It's about friendship with Jesus and becoming more like him. If you have experienced a life-changing encounter with the living presence of Jesus, Dr. Karl also shares with you how you can help get the word out. For more conversations with Dr. Karl, see Episodes 13, 14, & 93. Learn more about The Immanuel Approach at and on our website,
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E138 - Dr. Mark Fee and Rachel Delgado | First Loved Ministries
05/16/2023
E138 - Dr. Mark Fee and Rachel Delgado | First Loved Ministries
What does Jesus mean when he says that we are to love others as we have been loved? And how can we even do that if we have not first truly experienced "being loved" by Jesus? Our guests in this episode have focused their ministry on helping people understand what it means to be truly loved. Dr. Mark Fee is the son of theologian, Gordon Fee, and sister of one of our recent guests, Dr. Cherith Nordling. You're going to enjoy meeting him and his ministry partner, Rachel - who has a profound healing story of her own. Find out more at
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E137 - Dr. Mike Hutchings | God Heals PTSD
05/02/2023
E137 - Dr. Mike Hutchings | God Heals PTSD
"So many people have allowed trauma to become the primary narrative of their life. It’s how they get attention. It’s how they feel about their lives. It’s important that we help them step out of that identity and step into the identity of who they really are in Christ and walking the dream of God for their life." Our guest today, Dr. Mike Hutchings, is the Director of Education for Global Awakening. He is also the Founder of the God Heals PSTD Foundation which equips churches to minister healing to those who suffer from PTSD from the wounds of war and life. We hope you enjoy this episode, and our opening bumper - which was literally recorded "from the road" between 2 trainings out west. It includes a now humorous "could-have-been-a-catastrophy" personal story involving a couple of moose. To learn more about Dr. Hutchings, visit Also check out "Supernatural Freedom From the Captivity of Trauma" from the Living Unbroken series available on the ISN App and Rumble.
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E136 - Dr. Cherith Nordling, Part 2 | What Does it Mean to be Human?
04/18/2023
E136 - Dr. Cherith Nordling, Part 2 | What Does it Mean to be Human?
"I could let him be God for me, but couldn’t let him be human for me." "Where the image of God is, there is the presence of God. The presence of God was meant to rest in human beings." What does it mean to be human? What is the significance of Jesus, the Son of God, entering humanity? What is a "breathing ceremony" in the context of the image and likeness of a King? What does the Creation narrative tell us? And, "What is mankind that you are mindful of them?" (Psalm 8) Explore some deep waters with us in the continuation of our conversation with theologian and professor, Cherith Nordling. Your eyes will be opened to profound truths as she unpacks the beauty of our humanity and the image of God that we all carry. If you're enjoying this podcast, we'd love for you to let your friends know. This conversation is way too good to keep to yourself. 👍
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E135 - Dr. Cherith Nordling | Being Human
04/04/2023
E135 - Dr. Cherith Nordling | Being Human
"There is never a minute that God does not see us with him. I move through the world as a finished daughter of the Most High. God has so much compassion for me because I don’t know that yet." Our conversation with Dr. Cherith Nordling, PhD, will draw you in to the beauty of what it means to be human. You will come to love this teacher and mentor in theological education and formation who is also skilled in Nonprofit Organizations, Pastoral Counseling, Leadership, and Preaching. Strong professional with a Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.) focused in Theology from University of St. Andrews. With all of those credentials, you might be surprised to find her also very accessible and real. Our conversation grew as we continued to talk and we realized quickly that this would be only part 1 of our conversation. Part 2 is coming very soon where we talk more about learning how to be a human from the Son of God.
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E134 - Arun Bulchandani | Union Flow
03/21/2023
E134 - Arun Bulchandani | Union Flow
Join us for a powerful, Kingdom conversation with our new friend, Arun Bulchandani, as we explore the importance of caring for our physical bodies, understanding how creation fits in, and learning what it means to experience oneness with Christ. Connect with Arun: Web: unionflow.com Instagram: @abulchandani Facebook: @unionflowco
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E133 - Leif Hetland | Author, Founder/Director of Global Missions Awareness
03/07/2023
E133 - Leif Hetland | Author, Founder/Director of Global Missions Awareness
We are very excited to introduce you to Leif Hetland, who is the founder and Director of Global Missions Awareness, and the author of several books, including his latest, . This man is full of joy and he shares it wherever he goes. We have some great conversations about Gen Z, and what God is doing among that generation right now, and also about experiencing and sharing the love of Jesus with others. We also find out something very encouraging from him about our book, Streams of Healing, which you can order on Amazon right now. Find out more about Leif and his resources at
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E132 - Trisha Frost | How an Encounter with the Love of God Changed a Family, and Some Thoughts about Asbury
02/21/2023
E132 - Trisha Frost | How an Encounter with the Love of God Changed a Family, and Some Thoughts about Asbury
God is moving in sweet and powerful ways among Gen Z right now. No matter what you want to call it, something is definitely happening and it is sweetly and powerfully impacting that generation and more on college campuses such as Asbury, and even in some churches across the country. Many students are connecting with the love of God in ways they never imagined. We have some important thoughts on this that may help give you more context for what we do and why we do it. We talk about it in the first 10 minutes of our show today. We hope you'll stick around for that before we head into our conversation with Trisha Frost. The connection here is that Trisha's story is one of how an encounter with the love of God literally changed her family - and it happened at another outpouring of God's love in the early 90's at a church in Toronto. Learn more about Trisha Frost and Shiloh Place Ministries at .
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E131 - Ray Woolridge | Escaping Enemy Mode
01/10/2023
E131 - Ray Woolridge | Escaping Enemy Mode
We're back for our 5th season with a fascinating and helpful conversation with Retired US Army Brigadier General, Ray Woolridge, Executive Director of Life Model Works. Ray recently co-authored a book with Dr. Jim Wilder called, "Escaping Enemy Mode." What is Enemy Mode? Why does it matter? and How can we escape it? Ray touches on all of this in our interview. You can learn more by getting the book at , , and Amazon. Also, in the front of this interview, get caught up with what Face to Face Ministries has been up to and is doing in 2023 and learn how you can be a part of it! Enjoy!
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E130 - Judith MacNutt | Pioneer in the Inner Healing Movement
11/13/2022
E130 - Judith MacNutt | Pioneer in the Inner Healing Movement
This is a special episode and it falls on a very significant week for Face to Face Ministries. We have invited our dear friend, Judith MacNutt, back to the podcast to celebrate the release of our new book, Streams of Healing, and our first-of-its-kind Inner Healing Symposium both of which are happening on November 17, 2022. As a grandmother in the inner healing movement, we asked Judith to write the Forward for the book. She is also one of our authors! We interviewed her back in Episodes 37 and 38, so go have a listent to learn more about, Christian Healing Ministries, the ministry she co-founded with her late husband, Francis. Get your copy of the book from Amazon on Thursday, November 17th, and please join us that same day for our Inner Healing Symposium. Sign up here: https://innerhealingsymposium.eventbrite.com
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E129 - Dawna De Silva, John Thomas, Kent Larson | Hope, Unity in Diversity, 2022 Inner Healing Symposium
11/01/2022
E129 - Dawna De Silva, John Thomas, Kent Larson | Hope, Unity in Diversity, 2022 Inner Healing Symposium
We are honored to have our friends Dawna De Silva, John Thomas, and Kent Larson with us today on the podcast. Each of them have been working with us over the past 2 years as we have been creating space for leaders in the inner healing movement to link arms and connect relationally as peers. We wanted to share with you about our Inner Healing Symposium coming up November 17, 2022, and our vision for it as an infusion of hope as we emerge from the global trauma of the past 2 years. This is history in the making. Please join us! www.innerhealingsymposium.eventbrite.com
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E128 - Brian Orme | Seated in Heavenly Places, Part 2
10/18/2022
E128 - Brian Orme | Seated in Heavenly Places, Part 2
We're back to finish up our deep and intriguing conversation with our friend, Brian Orme. We're talking about talking to plants, exploring what and where heaven is, and getting real about our role on the earth and how our view of "end times" can make a huge difference in how - and IF we step into it. Buckle up - this one will make you think. For more info about Brian, check out his website, www.iborme.com
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