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The Emotional Labor Podcast - Jourdan Travers
02/10/2025
The Emotional Labor Podcast - Jourdan Travers
I first came across the work of Jourdan Travers through a written by Mark Travers, her spouse. The article caught my attention because the title included one of my favorite phrases: “invisible load.” When I reached out to Mark, I learned that he and Jourdan collaborate on their writing projects, and as luck would have it, Jourdan graciously agreed to join us on our podcast. Our conversation was rich and thought-provoking. I especially appreciated the way Jourdan unpacked the concept of emotional labor and explored how it operates within the framework of patriarchy. She articulated how patriarchy underpins long-standing beliefs about gender roles and provided historical context to help illuminate its pervasive influence. What’s more, she highlighted how patriarchy manifests differently depending on factors such as race, class, gender, culture, age, and sexual orientation. As a licensed social worker and therapist, Jourdan emphasized the importance of regular, honest, and introspective conversations as a foundation for challenging and shifting deeply ingrained beliefs. She shared how her work helps patients look beyond surface-level issues to dig deeper, encouraging curiosity and critical examination of their own narratives. Jourdan’s goal is to empower women to reflect more deeply on their challenges and view them through a different lens. One exercise she suggested, which I found both brilliant and practical, is this: If you’re upset about something—say, how your spouse handles snack time with the kids—write it down. Detail what the problem is, why it bothers you, and what solution you’d like to see. Then, ask yourself, “Why do I feel this way?” By becoming curious about your emotions and responses, you can gain valuable insights and begin to reframe your perspective. Bio: Jourdan Travers is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Clinical Director at , a telehealth company that provides online psychotherapy, counseling, and coaching. She also helps curate the popular mental health and wellness website, , where you can take science-backed assessments such as the and . Ms. Travers received her MSW from The University of Maryland and her B.A. in psychology from California State University Northridge. She has previously worked at Promises Treatment Center and Malibu Vista in Malibu, California, and the Lindner Center of Hope in Cincinnati, Ohio. Ms. Travers takes a holistic approach to mental health treatment, utilizing a variety of methods to help clients move through distressing thoughts, manage overwhelming emotions, improve close relationships, and focus on strengths to achieve long-term results. to book an appointment with Ms. Travers.
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