For the Rest of Us
Let this series stand as a memorial to my little brother and co-host, Richard "Flash" Flanagan, who passed away in November of 2023. For as long as I can, I will make your voice available to any who want to hear it. -Jesse We are the podcast with everyone else in mind. We talk about anything and everything that's on our minds, and feature guests from all walks of life. If none of the labels out there fit you, then you've come to the right place.
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We'll Never Forget You (Series Finale)
04/10/2024
We'll Never Forget You (Series Finale)
Let this episode, and the series as a whole, stand as a memorial to my little brother and co-host, Richard "Flash" Flanagan, who passed away in November of 2023. Thank you to all those who listened to our series over the years, and anyone who may stumble upon it now and in the future. To all of you who listened to us, even when we were happily not knowing what we were doing, in spite of all our shortcomings - I hope we were able to entertain you at least a little. Thank you to all the amazing guests, several of which we should not have been able to book in a million years, but somehow did. I'm forever grateful to all of you who took time to share your stories with us. If you would like to download the episodes to keep, you can get them all from my google drive: Even if/when I delist the show, I'll keep those files in the drive forever for whoever might want them. It's the least I can do to help keep RJ's memory alive. We'll grieve, we'll pick ourseves up, and we will move forward - but we'll never forget you RJ. How could we? I love you and I miss you my little brother from another. Until we meet again... -Jesse
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IT Soars and Teddy Atlas Roars
09/27/2017
IT Soars and Teddy Atlas Roars
This week: Endo gets passed around like a $2 hooker. Guest Austin Baker helps the guys break down the biggest boxing match of the year, Canelo Alvarez vs. Gennady Golovkin. we also share our view on Teddy Atlas's comments on corruption in the sport. Flash and Austin review the newest adaptation od Stephen King's IT. Endo tells you all the things you need to know about the book and the two film adaptations. Subscribe on or on ! Follow us on and ! For all things FTROU visit our website at ! Music Credits: Michael Kisur, Timezone LaFontaine, Mega Ran
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Hurricane harvey Difficulties: Please Stand By
09/01/2017
Hurricane harvey Difficulties: Please Stand By
It's been a while... How are you? We're doing as well as can be expected, given the circumstances. As I'm sure everyone knows by now, Houston and the majority of Southeast Texas has recently been hit by flooding of historic proportions by Hurricane/Tropical Storm Harvey. The storm first made landfall on August 25th near Rockport, Texas as a category 4 hurricane, slamming the Texas coastline with 130 MPH winds, torrential rains and storm surges. The city of Houston and the surrounded areas were most impacted by the constant stream of rains coming from the outer bands of the storm, at times dropping 3+ inches of rain per hour overnight. The storm would linger on the Texas coast for 4 more days, bringing 40+ inches of rain to most areas around the city. I live in the city of Friendswood, which is a suburb on the southeast side of the Houston metro area, was one of the areas impacted by the heaviest amounts of rain to fall. Courtesy: JohnnyS (YouTube) Clear creek, which is nearest body of water to my home, was at one point at an elevation of nearly 25 feet, brought on by 43 inches of rain. That's about 13 feet past its banks. Homes and people all around my neighborhood were affected, with those being rescued sent to the nearby elementary school for shelter. Longtime residents of the neighborhood told us that they'd never seen flooding like this in 20+ years. Courtesy: Dan Pancamo (YouTube) My home is okay. The flooding came up to my driveway, but no farther than that. The street in front of my house and the surrounding streets took on quite a bit of water, but for the most part, our little slice of Friendswood was among the fortunate ones. Courtesy: Sandy DeLaCruz The closer to the creek you got, the worse it got. About the only positive I could take away from this is that it took historic rains to even be a threat to my home and those around us. Courtesy: Sandy DeLaCruz The worst part was that I had to hear about it from my girlfriend while I'm 1500 miles away in the northeast working away from home. I was part spectator, part over-the-phone crisis manager/emergency planner, trying to make sure she and my two step-kids had everything they needed to ride out the storm, and knew what to do if they had to evacuate. I was worried. I was drinking every day (not on the job, of course) just to stay somewhat sane and calm so I wouldn't drop everything and try to get back to my house through a city that was going to be underwater before I could even get close. I'm grateful they made it through safe and sound. The waters have receded significantly since the rains stopped and they've been able to get out and get some food and supplies again. Sandy and the kids even went to the school to help out those using it as a shelter. I was really proud of them for that. I'm trying to get back so I can help my family and neighborhood as well, but work won't let me for a while yet. I really want to yell at some people, but that wouldn't get me anywhere, and I know my boss really tried, it just couldn't be helped. Flash is doing well, high and dry on the continental divide as always. Still needs a kidney, so if you have an extra one laying around, I'm sure he'd be happy to take it off your hands ;-) He's a superstar at the UnderArmour he works at. He recently set a store record for single day sales! So about that podcast thing we do... I know it's been weeks since we put out an episode. We had one recorded a couple weeks ago, and I have had zero time to edit and release it. Probably won't at this point. That just means we'll get back in the BeardBoy Productions dungeon again ASAP and crank out another one. I know Flash is chomping at the bit to discuss the Mayweather/McGregor fight, as am I. We'll also have some announcements to make about the future of the show at that time. We haven't quit. We're not riding off into the sunset, but there will be changes, and they will take time. Until we talk to you in audio form again... take care, stay strong Houston, and we'll see you soon.
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Inside WWE Monday Night Raw, Spider-man Homecoming and (bad) Game of Thrones Transcripts
08/01/2017
Inside WWE Monday Night Raw, Spider-man Homecoming and (bad) Game of Thrones Transcripts
Guest host Matthew Wilson joins FTROU once again for a full hour of the brash opinions and raunchy tomfoolery you could only expect when he graces us with his presence. This week: - Endo gives us an inside look at what it's like to attend a taping of WWE Monday Night Raw. - In-depth review of Spider-Man: Homecoming, the latest addition to the Marvel cinematic universe. - Analysis of the first two episodes in season 7 of Game of Thrones. Also, we do some hilarious reenactments of our favorite scenes. Want more FTROU in your life? Follow us on Twitter! Like us on Subscribe on and Music Credits: Between Enemies, Forget the Whale
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Marvel on Netflix Season 1, The Defenders and the MmmBop Invasion
07/25/2017
Marvel on Netflix Season 1, The Defenders and the MmmBop Invasion
Liam Stryker of the New Age Insiders podcast joins us this week, but not to talk wrestling. Turns out he likes other stuff too... like Marvel on Netflix!
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Metallica: Front To Back
07/19/2017
Metallica: Front To Back
Flash Flanagan and guest Ethan Colvin take on the daunting task that is the retrospective on the most famous heavy metal band of all time: Metallica RJ and Ethan take you inside the Worldwired 2017 tour as they recount their experience when Metallica stopped into Denver, Colorado. You'll also get the front to back history of each and every Metallica album ever released. Even the bad ones. From Kill 'Em All to Hardwired, they leave no stone unturned. Want more FTROU in your life? Follow us on Twitter! Like us on Subscribe on and Music Credits: Between Enemies, Forget the Whale
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Bobby Flay is Evil, Drunken Wonder Woman, and The Battle For The Van Halen Throne
07/12/2017
Bobby Flay is Evil, Drunken Wonder Woman, and The Battle For The Van Halen Throne
- Flash shares his favorite cooking show and Endo explains why celebrity chef Bobby Flay is evil. - Endo gets charged with WWWI (Wonder Woman While Intoxicated). - Dramatic Game of Thrones Season 7 Preview - Endo and Flash attempt to settle a great debate that has raged on for generations: Who was the better Van Halen Lead Singer, David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar? Want more FTROU? Find us on Twitter! We're also on Facebook! Subscribe on and ! For all episodes, show notes, and other links, go to Music Credits: Between Enemies, Ramin Djawadi, Forget The Whale
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E3 2017 Wrap-Up and and All-Access at E3 With Mega Ran
07/02/2017
E3 2017 Wrap-Up and and All-Access at E3 With Mega Ran
Our annual E3 wrap-up special is here! Endo anf Flash go over all the big news, and of course, all the biggest games of E3 2017. We give you in-depth coverage of both the Microsoft and Sony press briefings, as well as the Nintendo direct presentation. Also, we take you inside E3 with our guest Mega Ran. He gives us his inside perspective, and tells us about all the games he got hands-on with this year. Check out Mega Ran at Subscribe to FTROU on Apple Podacasts/iTunes! You can also subscribe on Stitcher! www.stitcher.com/podcast/beardboy-productions/for-the-rest-of-us Follow us on Twitter! @FTROUPodcast Endo: @Mrend0 Flash: @flashflanagan1 Music Credits: Ferdk, Mega Ran, Forget The Whale
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Money In The Bank, Mayweather/McGregor and A Tribute To Adam West
06/24/2017
Money In The Bank, Mayweather/McGregor and A Tribute To Adam West
This week: Flash goes to war with a FoodSaver Endo builds a RetroPie game system into an NES cartridge Breakdown of the WWE Money In The Bank PPV. Bad finish to a historic match Heels win the night Where does Baron Corbin go from here? Floyd Mayweather vs. Connor McGregor is officially happening! Endo and Flash give their take on each fighter's chances Who ya got? Vegas odds and our picks A special tribute to Adam West We share our favorite memories of West's historic career One last ride with West in Batman vs. Two-Face Our special tribute: our favorite Adam west quotes, in the key of Adam West We have a new address! check us out at Join us on Twitter! @FTROUPodcast Endo: @MrEnd0 Flash: @flashflanagan1 Subscribe to FTROU on iTunes! We're also on Stitcher for Andriosd users! Music courtesy of Michael Kisur and Forget The Whale
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Gaming and Gwar With Professor Shyguy
06/21/2017
Gaming and Gwar With Professor Shyguy
We are joined by chip-pop artist Professor Shyguy for an hour of nothing but nerding out over all the things. We get to know about his style of music, his influences, that one time he did a song for the DragonBall Super anime, and lots of game and anime talk to get your nerd juices flowing. Okay, that last part about the juices is a little weird. We're just gonna pretend that didn't happen and move on. Check out Shyguy's music at: www.professorshyguy.bandcamp.com We have a new website! (yes, it actually works) The best way to interact with FTROU is on Twitter! @FTROUPodcast Endo: @MrEnd0 Flash: @flashflanagan1 All music in this episode courtesy of Professor Shyguy
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FTROU x Flicks XRayed
06/01/2017
FTROU x Flicks XRayed
Endo and Flash are joined by Tony and Jeff, the hosts of the Flicks XRayed podcast for an entire episode full of movie talk and other shenanigans. In this week's All The Things You Need To Know: The debut of Injustice 2 2017 inductees to the World Video Game Hall of Fame Chester Bennington's temper tantrum Tom Hardy cast as Venom for the 2018 spinoff 44:00 - We take on the difficult topic of depression and suicide as we discuss the news of Justice League director Zack Snyder stepping down to deal with the death of his daughter, as well as the suicide of Chris Cornell. It's not always an easy thing to discuss, but it's an important conversation to have, so we hope you'll take the time to hear what we have to say about how you can help those in your life that may be suffering from depression. Finally, we close the show on a lighter note as we challenge Tony and Jeff to a little game of Give me 3. Check out the Flicks XRayed podcast at: The best way to engage with FTROU is on Twitter! @FTROUPodcast Jesse - @MrEnd0 Richard - @flashflanagan1 iTunes: Stitcher: Google Play Music: https://tinyurl.com/y9mos5bs
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Twitter Feuds, Manassas Eats and Waxing Philosophical
05/23/2017
Twitter Feuds, Manassas Eats and Waxing Philosophical
All the things you need to know: Box office roundup: King Arthur bombs, GotG vol. 2 still soaring Charlie Hunnam eyeing Green Arrow role? TV networks finalize end of season cancellations James Woods lands himself in hot water on Twitter Also: Randy Orton has choice words on Twitter for independent wrestlers. Was he out of line, or are his criticisms valid? Mr. Endo shares his favorite nighttime spots in Manassas Great Milenko or The Amazing Jeckel Borthers? It's a tough call Has the internet changed our culture? MC Lars asked, we answered Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions. Follow us on Twitter! @MrEnd0 @flashflanagan1
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MST3K, Galaxy S8 Reviews, and The Return Of "I'm Callin' You Out!"
05/18/2017
MST3K, Galaxy S8 Reviews, and The Return Of "I'm Callin' You Out!"
Endo and Flash debut a new weekley segment called "All The Things You Need To Know". This week: Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 takes over the box office The Bellator 180 fight card announcement Injustice 2's "Everything you need to know" video breakdown The guys have a couple big reviews this week, as Flash gushes over the recently revived Mystery Science Theater 3000 on Netflix, and Endo shares his views after some having some time to get to know the recently released Samsung Galaxy S8+. Finally, we bring you the return of one of our favorite segments, "I'm Callin' You Out!". Flash has quite a few things to say about bus station bathrooms, while Endo calls out Harris Teeter's for price gouging. Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions. Follow Mr. Endo on Twitter! @MrEnd0 Follow Flash on Twitter! @flashflanagan1
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NFL Draft 2017 Recap. Also, USADA Sucks
05/07/2017
NFL Draft 2017 Recap. Also, USADA Sucks
This week's episode is focused on sportsy stuff (apologies to the non-jocks). Endo and guest Ethan Colvin take over the first half of the show (sorry Flash) and break down the 2017 NFL Draft. We discuss all the big trades in the first round, the big winners of the weekend, and give in-depth analysis on our favorite teams. In the second half, we go over the latest update from Frank Mir on his battle with the evil tyrants of USADA. Why does USADA like holding careers hostage? How the hell is anyone supposed to remember what they ate for lunch 3 years ago? How can anyone take these asshats seriously? We'll cover all the bases. Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Yu-Gi-Oh!: Waxing Nostalgic
04/29/2017
Yu-Gi-Oh!: Waxing Nostalgic
Endo and Flash spend a nostalgic 45 minutes reminiscing over all things involving the king of games. You'll get some fun facts on the Yu-Gi-Oh! (YGO) manga and anime, as well as the guy's favorite moments and characters. The Finer Points: 03:17 - Yu-Gi-Oh! was originally written as a horror manga 08:08 - The YGO anime before the YGO anime 10:05 - The differences between the Japanese and American versions The censoring of cultural gaps Why every 80's cartoon had to have a moral to the story 13:47 - Our favorite things about the YGO anime Bandit Keith is more American than anyone you know Seto Kaiba and Maxamillion Pegasus should have been lovers Duelist Kingdom was secretly a dating reality show Bakura is the best villain in the series 22:53 - The Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading card game (TCG) Our first memories of playing the TCG The starter decks we chose Escaping from Kremmling, CO 26:32 - Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG tournament play Learning from failure... a LOT of failure The power of competitive friendship RIP Valhalla's The day the student became the master Endo won a tournament, thanks to the judge 37:01 - Flash's memories of the Exodia deck miracle Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Nerd News and Reviews #3
04/21/2017
Nerd News and Reviews #3
This is an hour jam-packed with as many reviews as we could handle! 02:05 - Logan 18:17 - Ghost In The Shell 31:03 - Power Rangers 43:59 - Yu-Gi-Oh! Legacy of the Duelist 49:57 - FFXV: Episode Gladiolous/Chapter 13, Verse 2 53:52 - Persona 5 (first impressions) Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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All The Justice League Things
04/15/2017
All The Justice League Things
Flash and crew go over, in painful detail, every second of the newest Justice League teaser trailer. That's it... What, were you expecting punch and pie? Go listen to the show and be grateful dammit! Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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WrestleMania 33 Wrap-Up
04/09/2017
WrestleMania 33 Wrap-Up
We are joined by Matthew Wilson, the host of the "Across the Pond" podcast, as well as Ethan "Turbo Lover" Colvin to create the ultimate squared-roundtable about the squared-circle as we go over the 5 hour spectacle that is WrestleMania 33. We go over every match from the start of the pre-show, to the main event, and even the aftermath known as Raw after WrestleMania. You can find Across The Pond at Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Movie Rumors and Binge-Watching
03/31/2017
Movie Rumors and Binge-Watching
Mr. Endo is lost in the woods somewhere, so Flash and his good friends Ethan Colvin and Jesus Sotelo are holding down the fort and bringing you their thoughts on several newly announced movie projects, rumors and and new movie trailers The finer points 02:21 - Venom solo movie 09:15 - Carnage movie rumors 11:05 - Predator 17:46 - Old anime you need to binge-watch 20:28 - Alien: Covenant trailer We'll work on finding Mr. Endo at some point, we promise. Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Matt McCool From The Pipe Bomb
03/21/2017
Matt McCool From The Pipe Bomb
Flash Flanagan is lost up on a mountain somewhere. Fortunately, Mr. Endo and this week's guest, Matt McCool from the podcast "The Pipebomb With McCool and Company" are here to prevent us from releasing an hour long track of nothing but heavy breathing. There's plenty of WWE talk, as we go over the story lines and matchups already announced on the road to WrestleMania 33. We also take plenty of time to wax nostalgic about our favorite eras in WWE history, what we're watching on Netflix/Amazon and we squeeze in a quick game of "Give Me 3". Check out the Pipebomb on the NAI Network Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Nerd News And Reviews #2
03/17/2017
Nerd News And Reviews #2
This week, we go around the globe to bring you all the news that's fit to nerd out over in podcast form. The finer points: 01:35 - The return of Geroges St. Pierre to the UFC 06:47 - UFC 209 recap 14:53 - WWE Fastlane recap 28:55 - Dethnapia Live Read (Potential advertising partners take notice!) 32:20 - WWE Fastlane recap (cont.) 36:21 - Wrestlemania 33 preview 40:47 - Nintendo Switch debut Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Fred Faour From ESPN 97.5 FM and our Superbowl LI Recap
02/27/2017
Fred Faour From ESPN 97.5 FM and our Superbowl LI Recap
Fred Faour is our Guest this week. He is the former sports editor for the Houston Chronicle and currenty hosts The Blitz on ESPN 97.5 FM. Find out about the story behind the infamous Houston Astros headstone article, relive some of the best moments from The Blitz, hear about his latest projects and learn a lot more about your favorite sports talk host than you thought you could in a single hour. You can find The Blitz at Check out Fred's new sports blog, Also this week... our Super Bowl LI breakdown, Batman vs. Superman cereal, and our new segment, "I'm Calling You Out!". We've got some grievances with some people and things, and we're calling them out with the subtlety of a raging inferno. Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Bellator 170, Christina Wittman and Nintendo Switch
02/13/2017
Bellator 170, Christina Wittman and Nintendo Switch
Our guest this week is Christina Wittman. She is the wife of former guest Trevor Wittman and a woman of many talents. We know you'll love her drive and outlook on life. We talk Bellator 170, in particular, the aftermath of the fight between Tito Ortiz and Chael Sonnen. Also, Nintendo Switch super bowl ads and much more. Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Royal Rumble 2017 Recap
02/07/2017
Royal Rumble 2017 Recap
David Key joins Flash Flanagan this week to break down all the big news that came out of the 2017 WWE Royal Rumble in San Antonio Texas. Apparently Mr. Endo was too busy binge-watching Family Matters to be on this week's show... Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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YouTubers John and Ben Buckhouse and a Holiday Hangover
01/24/2017
YouTubers John and Ben Buckhouse and a Holiday Hangover
The booze are stronger and the holiday hangover is longer. Our first show of 2017 begins with more of a train crash than a bang, as we stumble through our usual shenanigans. We do somehow squeeze out a full-ish review of Final Fantasy XV for PS4 and a few other things we've been watching on Netflix lately. Somehow we managed not to scare away this week's guests, Johnathan and Ben Buckhouse. These guys are a couple of up-and-coming YouTube stars on the rise, and they come on to talk their latest endeavors as well as how difficult it is to fly a drone in the mountains in winter. You can find John and Ben's videos at Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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The Best and Worst of 2016
01/07/2017
The Best and Worst of 2016
Endo, Flash, and their guest host Anthony Villa wrap up 2016 in the way only they know how. With with the subtlety of a baseball bat to the forehead. The guys talk about the top movies, games and music of 2016, and go over all the news that's fit to print (vocally). Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Richard Hunter of the Phonebooth Fighting Podcast
12/22/2016
Richard Hunter of the Phonebooth Fighting Podcast
This week's episode is all about one man. He's a man of many talents and his name is Richard Hunter. You may know him now as the co-host of Phonebooth Fighting with Frank Mir, but there's much more to his story. Hear about his time in the bluegrass band Killbilly, running for mayor, how he broke into the Dallas radio market, and what it's like working in a legal brothel. He also recounts the tale of the day he found former NBA star Lamar Odom during an overdose and likely saved his life. You get two amazing hours with one of the most interesting and entertaining podcasters out there today. It's an episode you don't want to miss! Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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Holiday Hangover
12/05/2016
Holiday Hangover
Endo and Flash are just getting back from a week off of turkey eating, booze drinking and general laziness, so a bit of a holiday hangover is to be expected. The only plan this week is that there is no plan. The guys still have the ability to nerd out over all the things, and this week that includes lots of gaming talk (NES Classic woes, Final Fantasy XV and more) WWE Survivor Series recaps, and whatever else they could come up with at the last minute. Opening Song - Range In My Kitchen Blues by Texas Alexander Closing song - Cocaine Habit Blues by Memphis Jug Band Would you like to help shape the future of our show? Please fill out our survey, and you'll be able to do just that! All you'll need is 10 minutes and your honest opinions.
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UFC 205 Recap. Also, Nintendo Is a Jerk
11/24/2016
UFC 205 Recap. Also, Nintendo Is a Jerk
This week, Endo and Flash are joined by the turbo lover Ethan Colvin as they give their full breakdown of UFC 205 and the rise of King Connor. Also, Nintendo's underhanded sales tactics are revealed as we live through yet another hardware shortage with the NES Classic. The guys review a few of the newest games out on 3DS, PS4 and XBox1, as well as discuss the romantic novel industry and the origin of Mr. Endo's name.
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Texas Renaissance Festival: Experiences From the Inside
11/17/2016
Texas Renaissance Festival: Experiences From the Inside
In our first segment, we discuss the outcome and the aftermath of the U.S. presidential elections. We give our opinions on how we think Trump was able to win, and where we should go from here. We take some time to discuss the end of the road for Nintendo's Wii U, as the announcement that it has officially stopped production comes down. In segment two (18:40) We take you in for an all-access look at the Texas Renaissance Festival. You'll get to hear from some of the many cast members involved in helping take us all back to a simpler time, the roars of the crowd at the joust, the music that filled every street, and much more. We also take you inside Ren Fest After Dark, where debauchery and dancing rule the night. In our final segment (31:50) Jim Ross crashes the party, and Flash gives us his review of the latest Batman animated feature, "Return of the Caped Crusaders" featuring the voices of Adam West, Burt Ward, and Julie Newmar, reprising their classic roles.
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