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Fourthstream.com weekly podcasts are focused on non-religious, kingdom spirituality. Kingdom spirituality: a state of experiencing an authentic connection with God resulting in a satisfied mind. Insights into authentic spirituality: King first - then Kingdom - then church.

S9E13 - Shelter Classrooms 09/09/2025

S9E12 - The Call To Make Disciples 09/02/2025

S9E12 - The Call To Make Disciples Jesus instructed His followers (disciples) to make disciples just as He did. Let’s break this down a bit. This comes from Matthew 28:16-20. #1. “But the eleven disciples proceeded to Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had designated.” It is important to note that Jesus remained on earth 40 days after His resurrection (Acts 1: 3). “To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God.” 40 Days. Hundreds and even thousands of eyewitnesses assembled by Luke the doctor! There was no doubt in the eyes of His followers that an explosion was occurring. There was much work to be done by His disciples and followers who would join them in the wake of this once-of-a-kind event. Note what Paul said about this: “After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep (died)...” (1 Corinthians 15:6) The evidence for a resurrected Jesus was massive. And He keeps popping up. #2. “When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some were doubtful.” Think what this must have been like for these simple fishermen. Each day for four years they were acclimating to literally the most amazing things that ever had or ever would occur on the earth. This is represented for so many others in the words of the disciple Thomas: “So the other disciples were saying to him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.” (John 20:25) “And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, #3. “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.” Jesus is saying He is here bringing the authority given Him by His Father. This is more than the founding of a massively impactful religion. It is the authority of God unleashed into generations through thousands of years until He returns. Huge. If the Father’s authority is sufficient to raise the dead perhaps it is unlimited, right? And when we walk in Jesus we walk in the Father’s authority. #4. “Because of this go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you...” We are to do as He has done. And more than this, we are to do it alongside His example and in the power of His Spirit. We share the yoke of our Kingdom load with Jesus Himself. “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” (Matthew 11:28-30) So the authority is His. The example is His. He calls us to follow in His steps. #5. “... and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Jesus is not asking His followers to go it alone. We have Him. We have each other. And through His Spirit we have His strength and His presence. “I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.” What more can our great God do for us?! Being a disciple is a beautiful thing. Joining Him in making disciples through our own lives is a privilege of expansive proportions. Think about it! “And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant, because you have been faithful in a very little thing, you are to be in authority over ten cities.’ ” Luke 19:17 √ Are you all in? Do you feel worthy? √ Do you know what you need to know? Do you feel able? √ Are you prepared to give everything for the sake of this call? Are you overcoming distractions? Following the Shepherd right along with you, Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/38046100

S9E11 - The Call to Knowing God 08/26/2025

S9E11 - The Call to Knowing God The entire Bible has been given to us so we may know God, understand a life of God- honor, and live in a manner "worthy" of the One Who created us. Six times in the letters the words "manner worthy" are used to describe the walk of a God follower. It means we honor God (As well as ourselves) by placing honorable weight upon our great God. Let's think through what Paul taught the Philippians in 3:1-21. It will help illuminate the concept of the call to knowing God. This carries on the conversation about Engage Training from the last episode. Useful to us for sure! "Finally, my brothers, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things again is no trouble to me, and it is a safeguard for you." Paul had been around the block both as a Jew and as a follower of Jesus. While he understood many complicated things (check out the letter to the Romans) he always returned to the heart of the Gospel. He speaks about this in every letter! So to have a "knowing God" mechanism to focus him in the wild events of his everyday crazy was a "safeguard" for him - and all who follow Jesus. He does not mince words on the challenges: "Beware of the dogs (those who oppress others for personal benefit), beware of the evil workers (those who devise evil plans without regard for either human or God value), and beware of the false circumcision (Jews who live in hypocrisy related to the Word of God); for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh. Crazy right? He then goes through his spiritual pedigree: "Although I myself might have confidence even in my flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more: circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless." Dang. This man is certified and dangerous. He is not bragging, of course, but setting up a contrast. (3:7-11) "But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ. More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death; in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead." We don't have enough time here to unpack this, but Knowing Him and His power is what made this wild man tick. And by wild, we mean wild at heart. So, Paul's goal for the Philippians was the same as he had for himself. √ What is your God-mechanism for staying connected to God? (3:1-6) √ In what ways are you able to discern between "dogs" and "evil workers?" (7-11) √ What ways and at what levels do you value "knowing God?" Paul pauses to add some clarity. This is not merely about attaining but also about pursuing! (12-15) "Not that I have already obtained it or have already become "perfect" (to complete the journey of faith), but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. Brothers, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, have this attitude; and if in anything you have a different attitude, God will reveal that also to you; however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained." √ Again - it is ALL about the upward call to knowing God. Paul returns to the dicey nature of our journey in verses 17-21. "Brothers, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have seen in us. For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ, whose 1) end is destruction, 2) whose god is their appetite, and 3) whose glory is in their shame, 4) who set their minds on earthly things. For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has to subject all things to Himself." Boom! We pursue knowing Him now because our coming conformity with His glory is unimaginable to us in our present state. So Paul is describing a spiritual reality we can pursue to find satisfying meaning in our quickly unfolding lives. And it is so much more than sitting in a pew! Knowing God is the goal of Kingdom spirituality. Know the King. Embrace Kingdom living (as He and His followers define again and again). And BE His loving and spotless Bride. For our Day will come. Let's finish strong! Episode 8: Strategic Plan 1/Cultivating Deeper Episode 9: Strategic Plan 2/Jesus Centric Episode 10: Strategic Plan 3/Engage Training Episode 11: The Call to Knowing God Episode 12: The Call to Make Disciples Episode 13: Some Excellent Kingdom Books Episode 14: Song of the Wind How do we know we are knowing God? √ Based upon our knowledge of the Words He has given us in the God Story √ Based upon our reflective connection and obedience to what He has proclaimed true √ Confidence in our own non-religious heart of devotion to Him Like our friend Brent says: "Fortis Perago" - let's finish strong - in the knowledge of God Most High! Dave and Burnadette /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37973645

S9E10 - Your Strategic Plan 3 - Engage Training 08/20/2025

S9E10 - Your Strategic Plan 3 - Engage Training When Jesus announced His Kingdom He began to select a group of men and women who would follow Him by pursuing the example He had shown them and the Words from His Father He had communicated. This included a number of things reflected in the amazing display of "God coming near" (Immanuel) to save humanity from futility (our lives counting for nothing) and judgment for falling short of the image we were created to honor and multiply within each of our lives. Here are some of the threads Jesus taught in the word and works of His hands: √ Integrating what they knew or did not know about connectivity with Creator God. “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments." (John 14:15) Jesus spent much time explaining what knowing and pleasing the Father looked like. √ Facing who Jesus was with humility, honor, and resolve. “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit." (John 12:24) "Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you at the proper time, casting all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you." (1 Peter 5:6,7) “He must increase, but I must decrease." (John 3:30) We are God's kingdom seeds in the world. √ Embracing the same "why" He was tasked with when sent to earth by His Father. “Just as the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you; abide in My love." John 15:9 “Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do what I command you." (John 15:13-14) √ Leaving our "nets" and choosing to follow Him. And He said to them, “Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men.” Immediately they left their nets and followed Him." (Matthew 4:19-22) There is so much which captures our attention and imagination in a life time. Fishing for men really should be very prominent. √ Engaging in the hard work of the Kingdom. Seeing the people, He felt compassion for them, because they were distressed and dispirited like sheep without a shepherd. Then He said to His disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. Therefore fervently ask the Lord of the harvest to send out workers into His harvest.” (Matthew 9:36-38) “You yourselves know that these hands ministered to my own needs and to the men who were with me. In everything I showed you that by working hard in this manner you must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He Himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’” (Paul in Acts 20:34-35) Jesus calls this putting our hand to the plow: But Jesus said to him, “No one, after putting his hand to the plow and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.” Luke 9:22 √ Persevering faithfully (though imperfectly) to the end. "Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you." (1 Timothy 4:16) This is all about value. If we VALUE Who He IS and what He has DONE for us, we will honor Him over and over. “These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.” John 16:33 √ Looking forward to the reward His Father holds for all who serve Him in word and deed. Then Peter said to Him, “Behold, we have left everything and followed You; what then will there be for us?” And Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms for My name’s sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last; and the last, first." (Matthew 19:27-30) There have been many great things written about what it means to engage as a disciple of the Kingdom. We began to sort through these things years ago and landed on what we call "Engage Training." We have taken the teachings of Jesus and the encounters and experiences of His disciples and contemplated them organically and systematically to provide an approach to being a "scribe" of the Kingdom. This allows one to participate in the work and glory of God, and most of all to hear the words "well done." “His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You were faithful with a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master." Matthew 25:23 Jesus invites us into what He and His Father are doing. So cool. John 5:17: But He answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working.” (John 5:1-47 deserves to be read and absorbed concerning His words in John 5) Time invested in working through the Engage Training course will reap huge benefits in the days ahead! If you wish to discuss this and tailor your own plan, reach out at [email protected]. Peace upon your heart and soul! Dave and Burnadette /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37894215

S9E09 - Your Strategic Plan 2 - Jesus Centric 08/12/2025

S9E09 - Your Strategic Plan 2 - Jesus Centric This diagram tracks the recurring woven threads throughout God's Word (over 62,000 connections!). As you consider your personal strategic plan for spirituality we have considered: √ King First - then Kingdom - then Church/what Jesus taught about spirituality √ Cultivating Deeper/skills for unlocking the Word Today we discuss the big picture on the Word of God, and what we like to call Jesus-Centric. What this means is that the entire Bible revolves around the person Jesus. Genesis 1-11 and the human story. Genesis 12-52 and God's choice of Abraham (Israel) to redeem the nations through Messiah (Savior, satisfaction for our sin, and Son of the Living God). Through the words of Moses (imperfect deliverer and the one who encountered Yahweh within the burning bush) - Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Then we add the conquest via Joshua, the Judges and Ruth, and the Kings and the prophets. 400 years of silence and then the appearance of King Yeshua (Jesus) and His Kingdom which was finally "at hand." Next the launching of the Church who would be prepared through the centuries to eventually become the spotless Bride of Christ. The letters (Acts - Revelation) give us encouragement and perspective, as well as representing the clear realities of who we are to be and where we are headed. Jesus Centric is an academic and experiential journey through the One Woven Story. From such pursuit we learn to allow the Bible to interpret itself. NOWHERE in either the old or new testaments are they called the old and new testaments. This is often transposed with the old and new covenants found in Jeremiah 31:31; Luke 22:20; 1 Corinthians 11:25; 2 Corinthians 3:6; and Hebrews 8:8,13; 9:15; 12:24. This is a perfect example of one of the woven threads we are talking about, and a classic example of exceeding what is written. There are not two stories. Only one. How many people do you know who have consulted the Word of God apart from religious pursuit? Many people have read through the Bible, but in our experience fewer have reasoned through the Bible. The Word of God is true. It is clear. It is supernaturally connective. Jesus Centric is 28 study episodes which help you make use of the entire God Story as backdrop for your personal spirituality, and to help others make sense out of their own journeys. Even as you read this there is a slim chance you will be one of whom Jesus calls a scribe of the Kingdom - but you CAN BE! And Jesus said to them, “Therefore every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a head of a household, who brings out of his treasure things new and old.” (Matthew 13:52) √ A scribe is motivated to understand and apply truth. √ A head of a household steps into his or her spirituality. √ What is treasure new and old? Let's find out! Dave and Burnadette Nadler If you wish to discuss this and come up with your own plan, reach out at [email protected] /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37765205

S9E08 - Your Strategic Plan 1 - Cultivating Deeper 08/05/2025

S9E08 - Your Strategic Plan 1 - Cultivating Deeper Finding our first King - then Kingdom - then Church balance is important for our spirituality. Obviously we have given this much thought, but you should investigate this yourself. Our purpose for pursuing this was to make sure we were prioritizing how we invested our time, our talents (gifts), and our treasures (resources). Having an effective and growing strategic plan for spiritual life it is imperative to set markers which come from the Word of God you can use as your compass throughout your journey. We've tweaked this allot through the years, but having a plan for cultivating deeper is key. Deeper can simply be defined as where we go in God. Because our Creator is unlimited we have plenty of room to go deeper, and this begins with finding our own Word compass. This is the intent of most spiritual training (church programs, Bible schools, and seminary training). It is interesting that the Jews were well educated at the time of Jesus, and yet here is what is said about His disciples (after Jesus had risen from the dead and ascended to Heaven): "Now as they observed the confidence of Peter and John and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they were amazed, and began to recognize them as having been with Jesus." Acts 4:13 √ What were the observations about the disciples? √ What was their primary qualifier? √ How does this differ from men and women who want to follow Him in discipleship as well? It seems that "being with" Jesus is what fuels Kingdom spirituality. This is why we have churches, schools, and seminaries. It is why as they grew up the Jews were taught Torah (the Law and prophets and the Psalms), and then for life decisions as they came into adulthood. The religious leaders were all trained this way, yet Jesus' conflict with them far exceeded His issues with Roman rulers. This leads us to the conclusion that what made Jesus' disciples effective for the Kingdom was predicated upon His Father being with Him. How can we duplicate such a growth environment? It seems we must dedicate a significant part of who we are to being "with" Him. This means we MUST go DEEPER into His Word to develop the kind of connectivity that is empowered by the relationship we have described in previous podcast sessions: through His Son Jesus, His Word, and through His Holy Spirit. This is the ultimate "God honor." To design a deeper plan for your spirituality you must include significant dedication to knowing the Word of God and allowing the Bible to interpret itself. When we learn to follow and consult the woven threads of scripture there is little wiggle room regarding proper interpretation (which addresses the "that's just your interpretation" argument). This means a "scribe of the Kingdom" must not only be motivated but also learn and apply skills which allow best interpretation based upon original intent of language and context. Such context is both immediate (the chapter and book or letter in which you are reading) and panoramic, in that we take into account the context of the entire Word of God on a particular thread (such as obedience, faith, sin, hope, Jesus, the future, etc). Make sense? If you have a desire to grow and hone such skills we offer a course in the Fourthstream nav bar titled Deeper. It comes with a number of video teachings and a workbook to allow this to happen for you, and to prepare you to help others do the same. We often refer to this process: Encounter the Reference/take the time and have a plan. Expose the Meaning/flow, words, context, and intent. Enlighten Your Heart/What did it mean to them/what does it mean to you? Once you have completed this course feel free to reach out at [email protected] with any questions, observations, or strategic conversations. . You can print a pdf guide for free or order a printed booklet. The video teachings are in the section links within the course. Enjoy the adventure! You won't regret it. Dave and Burnadette /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37679860

S9E07 - Kingdom Coaching 07/29/2025

S9E07 - Kingdom Coaching There are many ways of being mentored in spirituality. While this may come from significant people in our lives, books we read or study, favorite music et al, I have found that the Spirit is Jesus' voice inside of me is the most substantial. He is always ready to teach me and shape me and lead me in the direction Jesus wants for me. “But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you." John 16:13-15 And then there is this: "In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with (connection) longings too deep for words; and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He prays before the Father for the holy ones according to the will of God." Romans 8:26-27 So - mentoring is guiding in helpful ways which lead us to becoming the selves God has made us to be, and coaching is having an experienced voice in my corner, always teaching, inviting and encouraging me toward "the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." Which will always result in the best me. FOURTHSTREAM LEARNING & COACHING We have experience and knowledge for understanding the Kingdom life Jesus taught and lived. King first - then Kingdom - then Church. This is the Jesus model for honor and success in the eyes of His Father. Our Finding Hope Podcast connects you each week with encouraging focus and usable resources. You can watch weekly on our on-line community Storiesofshelter.com as well as at Fourthstream.com. We study and process over 600 podcasts and teachings which you may find to be quite helpful in your personal process. We offer several options of intensity. √ Our Finding Hope podcasts post each Tuesday. Here we select an aspect of Kingdom living and review what the woven threads of the Word of God have to say about it. These podcasts are available without subscription and can be found anywhere you make your podcast choices, or on the homepage at Fourthstream.com or Storiesofshelter.com. We follow up each Friday with study notes when you opt in to our weekly Friday e-mails. And our on-line Storiesofshelter.com community associates you with others who are pursuing Shelter from the King of the universe. These are offered for free. √ Our monthly membership gives you access to a forum for asking questions about the Bible and the Kingdom, whether you are new to following Jesus or well down the road. Join up and reach out with questions, thoughts, and advice on the issues of your life. We also host a members bi-monthly Zoom discussion forum where we dive into pertinent conversations as we strive to go where Jesus wants us to go. Sign up at $30 per month. √ We also connect individually with a number of motivated people each month either personally or via Zoom per proximity or availability. It gives you a feedback loop on what you re processing in your spiritual life. 1) we help you assess your spiritual desires in context of your current circumstances 2) we help you design your personal plan for living deeper 3) together we implement a strategy that moves you step by step to where you want to be 4) and we also offer our Storiesofshelter.com community where you can access hopeful interaction This kicks off with a no-cost 30 minute call to determine options and fit. You can inquire at [email protected]. So: √ Our Finding Hope Podcast provides regular connection for your personal goals. √ Our Fourthstream.com teaching Courses provide your personally designed systematic backdrop to become a disciple of Jesus' Kingdom. √ Our Storiesofshelter.com community allows you to process your spirituality with others. Soon our X and Telegram groups will enhance your interactions with other like-minded people. Welcome to Fourthstream Coaching. We think you’re going to like it! Dave and Burnadette and the Team /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37587230

S9E06 - Strategies for Weekly Kingdom Connectivity 07/22/2025

S9E06 - Strategies for Weekly Kingdom Connectivity It is one thing to understand the concept of First King - then Kingdom - then Church, but another to live a life directed toward connection with your King. The first thing is to decide where you stand on Jesus. A great teacher? One of many unremarkable religionists? Someone into whose hands you can place the welfare of your soul? We can talk about what Jesus taught about authentic connectivity, but only you can intentionally embrace whether or not He is who He said He is. Once you have made this determination you may then move into what it means to submit yourself to His authority, embrace and build His Kingdom, and grow as your part of the "pure spotless Bride" preparing for the wedding feast which will surely come. It would be great if this was a one-time thing, but faith requires we make this decision to pursue and connect again and again. Here are a few things we have learned - they may be helpful to you. #1. Decide you are going to continue in His Word. "So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” - John 8:31,32 It takes caring intentionality to produce honor of any kind. When it comes to Jesus we must constantly assess personal value. What He has done and what He has taught - what do they mean to you as life priorities? #2. Determine to spend your life moving beyond the distractions which press upon each phase of life. "They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to shared expression of love for one another, to the breaking of bread and to prayer." - Acts 2:42 This is quite simply choosing to live the way Jesus lived. It does not come naturally or easily to any son of Adam. Focus is both a personal prize and friend to spirituality. #3. Learn to make your conversations with God genuine and honoring rather than shallow and/or boring. Some people call this praying. We prefer to call it connecting - body, soul, and spirit. "He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?" Micah 6:8 Deep friendship does not just happen. It is reciprocal. It is faithful. It grows gradually through many years and the journey testings of life. It is a good idea before anything else in your day to ask Jesus "what is it you want me to know today, and what is it you want me to do?" (Winship) #4. Plan each week with aspirations of connection to Jesus Himself, His Father, and Spirit directed friendships with others that fuel your heart. Who will you reach out to personally? Who will initiate with you? What are your plans for doing the "sacrifices" of God? "And do not neglect doing good and sharing, for with such sacrifices God is pleased." Hebrews 13:16 If your main goal is connection He will honor your desire. This is why He says “No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you." Cool. John 15:15 #5. Pursue your own spiritual rhythm and fine-tune it and recommit to it again and again. Where does solitude fit in for you? In what ways do you use your spiritual gifting to build up others? In what ways do you feel you are planting and cultivating Kingdom seeds? How are you influencing your part of the world? And Jesus said to them, “Therefore every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a head of a household, who brings out of his treasure things new and old.” Matthew 13:52 Do you know what this means? What does it look like in your life and the lives of others around you? #6. Prepare your heart to be faithful to Jesus no matter what. You will try and fail. Sometimes you will succeed. You will need to hit restart over and over. You must have the wisdom and courage to "come boldly to the throne of grace to find mercy in your time of need." While true obedience results in honor, personal perfection will never occur. The whole point of the Gospel is that Jesus comes alongside us to do what we cannot do alone. This is deep. Do you understand it? “Come to Me, all who are weary and weighed down, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30 Living strategically right alongside you, Dave and Burnadette /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37504905

S9E05 - Stories Of Shelter 07/15/2025

S9E05 - Stories Of Shelter God IS shelter. We NEED to be sheltered. We need each other to remind us of what is IMPORTANT. We are surrounded by chaos, turbulence, and are so vulnerable to the weaknesses, pitfalls, and schemes of unprincipled men and women. How do we find our way through? There appears to be a clear path! "Hear my cry, O God, and listen to my prayer. From the end of the earth I call to You when my heart is faint. Lead me to the rock that is higher than I. For You have been a shelter for me, a tower of strength against the enemy. Let me travel under Your pillars and let me take forever protection under the shelter of Your wings. (I lift this up to the highway of praise). For You have heard my heart promises O God and You have given me the inheritance of those who fear Your name. You will prolong the king’s life and his years will be as many generations. He will abide before God forever. Appoint lovingkindness and truth that they may preserve him. So I will sing praise to Your name forever, that I may pay my offering promises day by day." Psalm 61 There is a definite thread of shelter in the Bible. Psalm 61 and Psalm 90 and 91 together paint an incredible picture of the shelter that comes from God. It is expansive. It is protective. It is healing. It is eternal. TELLING SHELTER STORIES We have launched Storiesofshelter.com to help us focus on the God stories of our lives. We explore two questions together: Where have we lived and given shelter? Where have we received shelter? Thinking these through can unlock some of the deeper things from our uniquely personal stories. Stories of Shelter connects you with our shelter community, where we share and hope in the Shelter that comes from the Living God, and enters into hearts and lives who find shelter under His wings. We live Hope through Him. We Love through Him. We find peace through Him. Once you see what Storiesofshelter.com offers - join the community! You will find stories, books, and conversations built around 19 Core Principles, God's Man/God's Woman conversations, understanding Jesus as Healer, and embracing Over/Next: Finding Your Way after a big loss or disappointment. And you don't need to write a paper or book in order to share your story! Three to four sentences giving a picture of where you have seen shelter between you and someone else - or a touching story or a photo/video from your friend group or social media. You can invite other truly sheltering people to do the same! Here are some links will help explain the SHELTER thread we are following. More: Peace upon your heart and home, Dave and Burnadette Nadler and Alan Baker P.S. "He who dwells in the shelter of the Mos High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty." Psalm 91 /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37410525

S9E04 - Kingdom Structural 07/08/2025

S9E04 - Kingdom Structural Because understanding the Kingdom is so critical to our spiritual lives, let's take some time to absorb the core message of Jesus when it comes to building in a manner that is pleasing to Him. We have already mentioned that the Kingdom is mentioned in the Gospels over 100 times and the church only twice. So the Kingdom message was clear to Jesus and to His disciples. In the book of Acts after the "church" (called out assembly) begins to emerge: "To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God." Acts 1:3 CONTEXT The world was corrupt and dying, and the Father, Son, and Spirit moved to save us. The King would need to come and willingly sacrifice Himself. King first. Then He would bring the message of the Kingdom to all who would listen, and build this Kingdom work through His own followers - who will become His Bride at the end of the age. The word ecclesia literally means a called out assembly. So the Church (the Bride) is called out of this lost world to enjoin the work of the Son of God Himself. Because of this, Fourthstream.com is built around the biblical Kingdom model. We take great care to accurately represent the King through everything He taught and did. We preserve the purity of this by allowing the Bible to interpret itself. The complete Word of God is an intricate and robust series of woven threads of truth, unfolding in all 66 books of the Testament of the Living God (note: nowhere in the Bible are the books identified as the old and new testaments - and yet we accept this idea from tradition and history - like so many things). The scribe who takes the time to process the Kingdom message of Jesus operates from a considerably different vantage point than much of what we see in secular and even church history. We are often obsessed with preserving tradition (and preferences and distinctions) rather than searching out the truth that has been so carefully brought to us. As we look deeper through the lens of the Kingdom we see many patterns and teachings emerge, such as the one in the diagram at the top. As Jesus explains the Kingdom (Matthew 5) He teaches us how the pure in heart are the ones who see God. What this means is we are to subject everything through the lens of humility rather than human business-as-usual (pride/self-absorption). When we experience a pure heart (Jesus' words, not mine) we are made free to know God as He IS rather than who we want Him or shape Him to be. Then we become able to do kindness in the Spirit, where the works of God begin to flow through our own lives into the people and souls around us. And so - we become His instruments to grow life. We call this the Kingdom Circle. It is quite superior to religion in that it is powered by Jesus and the Spirit of grace. So to apply the Word of God properly we must set aside religion and tradition and embrace the power of the King and His Kingdom. Fourthsteam.com carefully sifts through what is authentic to find connectivity with Jesus that changes us from the inside out, rather than the outside in. This is why Jesus said: “But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you." John 16:13-15 To find authentic King and Kingdom Church we must go to the Source. "He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of death will not overpower it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.” Matthew 16:15-19 Think how often this passage is represented to be understood regarding tradition, yet we fall short of understanding its meaning. The goal of Kingdom structure is to let the King tell us how His Kingdom operates and grow this Kingdom within His Church - in any and every age. Some get this - and some do not. But this is where God-honor and discipleship begin. Make sense? We offer several foundational things to move within the Kingdom understanding given us by Jesus. Last episode we mentioned the basics which help us to understand the God Story. Here we discuss what needs to be focused upon to live the Kingdom life our King outlined for us in that God Story. If this intrigues you (or is new to you) - take time to reset your mind narrative from religious to Kingdom structural. It could change your life! Peace upon your heart and home, Dave and Burnadette Nadler More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37328550

S9E03 - Finding Hope Podcasts 07/01/2025

S9E03 - Finding Hope Podcasts A number of years ago we were thinking through Paul's statement in 1 Corinthians 13:13 "Now these three powerful things: faith, hope, and love exist among us; but the greatest of these is love." This makes sense in that God IS love and we are made in His image. It would be great if we always loved the way He does - but we do not. We are surrounded by turbulence - from the inside-out. Even evil itself. Yet love is the most robust capital available to humanity, and those who live in true love draw close to our Creator. This "greater" means the most abundant. Deep inside we are motivated to love others. Right and wrong. Again - image of God. But faith and hope are not subservient to love in any way. In fact, all three unlock each other. As the God Story tells us in Hebrews 11:6: "And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him." So faith pleases God and love blesses God and others. When hope is brought into our hearts and our community of relationships (family, neighbors, co-workers) everything flourishes. "Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God. And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance; and perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope; and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us." Romans 5:1-5 Can you see it? Faith brings peace with God. In faith we are taught the glory of God in the face of Jesus. Hope empowers us to be principled and motivated in our love for one another. It is the relationship between these three gifts which allow us to live, grow, and excel as sons and daughters of the Living God. And so, Fourthstream Finding Hope podcasts were launched. In season #1 we spent 31 episodes uncovering the relationship of God's Law to the freedom of living in grace. God's Law is one core part of His grace toward His creation. Season #2 led us into a consideration of the reality that we have been born into a world at war. 30 episodes discovering our place in the middle of an epic struggle between good and evil. Then season #3 unlocks 34 episodes of what it means to live victoriously in the middle of the Turbulence of Imperfection. In season #4 we turned to a consideration of God's Man/God's Woman and how we make our journeys count. 11 conversations to return to again and again as we seek to follow our King and live lives that matter. This flows to season #5 and a discussion of what it means to experience a learning heart, then followed with 20 episodes about the power of hope (season #6). Seasons 4-5-6 are quite personally reflective, instructive, and helpful. Season #7 helps with the big picture concerning the Big Story in which we find ourselves integrally linked to one another within the purpose of God. In season #8 we examine the idea that God IS Shelter, and set a foundation to build our StoriesofShelter.com community for those who have received and given shelter. Now in Season #9 we come full circle to embrace the Kingdom of Jesus. All of this provides not only a systematic understanding of the teaching of God's Story, but an authentic connection to what it means to be a follower of Jesus. Together we mine the depths of what the One Woven Story has to say about Finding Hope, living in Faith, and Loving in the friendship of Christ. We take great care to allow the Bible to interpret itself - the only way we can preserve authenticity as we seek to make sense out of our lives - in God context. Each of these seasons are a link to spiritual maturity, and when processed in humility and truth can lead us deeper into our faith, our hope, and lives of love! Kind of an A-Z process that continues to unfold! Dave and Burnadette Enjoy! /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37237555

S9E02 - What Is The Kingdom To You 06/24/2025

S9E02 - What Is The Kingdom To You The levels of turbulence around us are massive. In every corner of our American and world culture we see division and twisted wisdom. There are three great gifts from God: Faith, Hope, and Love (1 Corinthians 13). Each of these may be found by those who choose to enter through the Door of the sheep (John 10). In faith we find a different and substantive present and future. Through love we make our lives count for ourselves and others. And in hope we find the fuel to live each day for something more. Once you have found a compass for your life the ability to reset your trajectory is open to you. Whenever you wish you may "go in and out" through Jesus - the Door of the sheep. This is where Fourthstream.com comes in. We have designed and compiled a connecting base from which you can fuel your desire to live a full life for your King, and seamlessly help others do the same. Both Dave and Burnadette have found the peace which can carry you through chaos and imperfection - and this comes from the Word of God alone. We have searched philosophy, science, and faith to discover what is needed to live in hope - which is no easy task! At Fourthstream.com we offer ten podcast seasons of conversations which all will connect you with personal hope. There is a blog of unfolding thoughts as well as core conversations to help you or someone you know establish in Jesus and His Kingdom. King first - then Kingdom - then Church. We have also written six books highlighting key parts of the faith story given to us in God's One Woven Story - the Bible. These dovetail with nine courses we have recorded during our years of teaching - which provides you with a significant spiritual and educational path toward unlocking the Story. Hope is not a given. Not everyone has ears to hear. In fact, it appears that there is only a "remnant" of people who will actually follow through to find hope in God. Life is too distracting - and we are too self-centered. This is where humility fits in. "For I know the plans that I have for you,’ declares the LORD, ‘plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart." Jeremiah 29:11-13 Our podcasts, blog posts, and conversations are available at no cost. Reviews of our books are provided and you can order them in either printed or audiobook formats per your interest and plan. Regarding our courses, both the God Story and Kingdom Spirituality are offered without cost (you can access videos and printed books if you wish). The Streamsbook, Strong Homes, Engage Training, The 8 Great Epochs in the Fabric of Time, Book by Book, Deeper, and Jesus Centric are accessed through ongoing membership as well as deep dives for those who choose to engage Fourthstream Coaching, which is a limited group who access Dave and Burnadette for their personally designed plans for Kingdom Spirituality conversations. Let's take a look at Fourthstream.com and determine what fits for you and the people with whom you are building the Kingdom. Click here. Here are a few comments from people who have experienced the benefits of Fourthstream.com. "Understanding the difference between putting the Kingdom first vs. church first has been a game changer for me as I am assessing my relationships. I appreciate Fourthstream.com and Storiesofshelter.com because it gives me the opportunity to get a brief soul overview in the middle of my busy day..." Ann "When I connect with the Kingdom through what Dave and Burnadette teach I come away refreshed in my heart and strengthened in spirit." Daniel "Through tools they have created I have been given a clear path and process...I have been engaged in their Jesus-Centric teaching plan which has pushed me deeper in desire and process in understanding the Word of God. If you are someone who wants a closer connection with God I highly recommend taking advantage of the tools at Fourthstream.com!" Nick "Through the courses, podcasts, books, and study guides Dave and Burney have impacted my life in so many ways. They are a couple with a heart for Jesus and a fire for others to know His love." Roland Peace upon your heart and home - from your friends at Fourthstream.com and other story hearts at Storiesofshelter.com. Dave and Burnadette and the Fourthstream Team Here is a song for your week: More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/37116445

S9E01 - First King - Then Kingdom - Then Church 06/10/2025

S9E01 - First King - Then Kingdom - Then Church There is a basic understanding Jesus tried to communicate to humanity when He came to the earth. When we get this right there is fruitfulness in our lives - when we don't varying degrees of misinformation prevail. Both John the Baptist (Jesus' cousin) and Jesus proclaimed the same thing: "Turn away and turn toward, for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matthew 3:2; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 10:7) The world had been languishing for centuries since the Garden episode. Genesis 1-11, the Law and prophets, and the Psalms are the story of the Jews - and all the nations. Not only is our condition exposed over and over through the imperfect Jewish story, God extends invitation for them (and us) to reverse course. Sadly, even the "chosen" Jewish nation does not listen to our Creator. God's chosen people wasted and rejected His words over and over again. This is made plain through story after story - life after life - decade after decade. So while the earth had rejected her King, the Father (who is slow to anger - filled with lovingkindness) makes away for men and women from every nation and every story to be brought into the acceptance of our Lord Creator - through His selfless sacrifice of His Son. Now there is a way back to God. He is the Door of the sheep. So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture." John 10:7-9 If you are new to the God Story check out this big picture overview - literally the ! And if you want the next level of where all 66 books fit in - ! And here are several links to the foundational information of God's Story! (2 teaching videos) King David (the clearest "type" of Christ in the God Story) tells us about this prophetically in Psalm 2. We like to call this Psalm "Kiss the Son." Let's take a look: "Why are the nations in an uproar and the peoples devising worthless things?The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers scheme together - against the One True God and against His Anointed (smeared), saying, "Let us tear their limitations of us apart and cast away their ties away from us!” He who sits in the heavens laughs: the One True God scoffs at them. Soon He will speak to them in His anger and terrify them in His righteous fury, saying, "But as for Me, I have installed My King upon Zion My holy mountain.” “I will surely tell of what is eternally inscribed from the One Great God. He said to Me, ‘You are My Son and today I have brought You forth. Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, and the very ends of the earth as Your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron and you shall shatter them like clay pots.’” Therefore, O kings, show discernment and take warning, O judges of the earth. Worship the One True God with reverence and honor, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, that He not become angry, and you perish in the way. For His wrath will soon be kindled. How blessed are all who take refuge in Him!" √ Refuge IS shelter: this is why we have created StoriesofShelter.com. It is Who our great God IS. √ No one is exempt from His righteous hand of justice. (a thread: Deuteronomy 32:35; Romans 12:19; Hebrews 10:30) √ The King of the earth brings us the Kingdom of God - and the Church brings refuge authority for us and our neighbors. Dear Lord Jesus, we come to you to be restored in You, to receive all the grace and mercy we so desperately need this day. You are our Great I Am/God-of-the angel-armies. We surrender every aspect of our lives and selves completely to You. I offer You my spirit, soul and body, my heart, mind, my conscience, and my will. We stand in grace completely covered with Your precious, redeeming blood. As we pray we ask Your Good Spirit to restore and renew us in You. We stand in absolute agreement with Your Spirit and our intercessors and allies. You are the One true King over all the earth! Peace upon your soul, Dave and Burnadette /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36929850

S8E13 - Jesus and Turbulence 06/03/2025

S8E13 - Jesus and Turbulence I just finished Jordan Peterson's latest book "We Who Wrestle With God." I like how he reasons, and even though I am not ready to place him in the upper echelon of my spiritual teachers, he is a genuine, thoughtful soul. One premise of his book relates to the relationship between chaos and order, something many philosophers, scientists, and faith reflectors see as key for arriving at a satisfied mind. How do we align with incredible design and order while at the same time dealing with the often hurtful fruits of chaos? If you are like me this can be a quagmire of sorting through the beautiful things in our lives as well as the nagging difficulties which emerge from within and without. Jesus was faced with this every day of His short time on earth. He wrestled with beauty and chaos, hope and disappointment, and as He was chosen by His Father to make "all things new," faced His designated purpose with resolve, joy, and much personal sacrificial pain. Burnadette and I spent an entire Finding Hope podcast season sorting through some of the mysteries and realties of living in what often feels like a wasteland. Here is the first episode of a number of contemplations which you may find helpful in learning about and sorting through your own imperfect journey. Take a moment and list the aspects of imperfection you have experienced in your life. √ Where you have been overtaken by fear. √ When you have felt hopeless. √ Your greatest triumphs. √ Your greatest disappointments. Jesus is with us through all imperfection and chaos. Here are a few thoughts for you to use to reflect. Hebrews 13:5 √ What about Jesus makes Him enough? √ Check out Deuteronomy 31:6 and Joshua 1:5 for why we can count on Him! Matthew 28:19,20 √ What authority is being spoken of here? √ What does being "with" us entail? John 8:51; 10:28 √ What is the staying power mentioned here? √ How secure are those who are Jesus' friends? Matthew 11:28-30 √ How does friendship impact our personal turbulence? Revelation 21:5 √ What does this mean and in what way can I count on it? You may also wish to consider Psalm 6/Backstroke In Tears. Chaos and pain are a given. Sometimes self-inflicted and often brought about by circumstances or other times the choices of others. Diving deep into chaos and order and human turbulence can be good for the mind - and the heart! Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36833695

S8E12 - Jesus As Healer 05/28/2025

S8E12 - Jesus As Healer Jesus is our Savior, Healer, and Friend. He alone can restore the access of honor we need to reconnect with Creator God. Let's follow part of this thread! “This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do what I command you. No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you. You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you. This I command you, that you love one another." John 15:12-17 I can remember a few songs from my childhood as a little Lutheran (confirmed by the skin of my teeth). This one always stuck. Carrying weights. Bringing hope. Giving peace. "What a friend we have in Jesus. All our sins and griefs to bear. What a privilege to carry, everything to God in prayer. O what peace we often forfeit. O what needless pain we bear. All because we do not carry. Everything to God in prayer" "Have we trials and temptations? Is there trouble anywhere? We should never be discouraged - Take it to the Lord in prayer. Can we find a friend so faithful - Who will all our sorrows share? Jesus knows our every weakness - Take it to the Lord in prayer" "Are we weak and heavy-laden, 'Cumbered with a load of care? Precious Savior, still our refuge — Take it to the Lord in prayer. Do thy friends despise, forsake thee? Take it to the Lord in prayer. In His arms He’ll take and shield thee, Thou wilt find a solace there" Despite the thou's and thee's I find this song to have spiritual meaning to me. In my life I have learned to talk to God about everything, even though this has been an unfolding learning process. I am so glad He has plenty of time on His hands :) Perhaps one goals of life is cultivating a reflective journey where we have learned to give our "trials, temptations, and troubles" to the One who sees us. I am counting on my friendship with Jesus. This is why I try to "do what He tells me to do." It is so cool that I am not on a journey of perfection but one of humility. This is the story process of every character in the Bible, including Jesus: "In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His reverent submission." Hebrews 5:7 A crashing note: "You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." James 4:4 √ How is your Jesus friendship? √ In what ways does it eclipse friendship with the world? √ How have you been able to share your weights with Jesus? √ In what ways would you say you have an honorable friendship with Him? A final thought from Matthew 11: “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Peace with our Friend, friend! Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36740745

S8E11 - Jesus As Healer 05/20/2025

S8E11 - Jesus As Healer Healing is a curious concept with many opinions on the what, how, and why. A survey of known history makes it quite clear that no one healed like Jesus did. Even within all of the other religions of antiquity there is no one like Him, and some religious healer's miracles were pretty lame. Jesus, however, did nothing in a corner. He was transparent and prolific. And those who witnessed what He did were not all His fans. In fact, the most zealous religionists of history do not measure up to the scribes and pharisees who were capable and willing to go to great lengths to discredit or stop Jesus. Just as there are today. You will need to investigate for yourself whether or not Jesus was an authentic healer - a reverser of maladies and curses. Did the thirty plus recorded miracles actually happen or are they merely a concocted series of stories? And this was just the tip of the spear. "But he went out and began to proclaim it freely and to spread the news around, to such an extent that Jesus could no longer publicly enter a city, but stayed out in unpopulated areas; and they were coming to Him from everywhere." (Mark 1:45) Jesus was an explosion the likes of which the world had never seen! Next we must pursue the thread from the God Story where Jesus still heals men, women, and children from every decade, century, and people group. Is He this influential? Does His power extend to the souls and bodies of any and all of mankind? Was His purpose in coming to earth merely to heal bodies - or to save and heal souls? We think this is the greatest question of all time. Once you have decided that Jesus really was and is a healer of souls it is time to personally experience Him deeply. √ If you feel you are stuck - He can help. √ If you feel you are worthless - He can restore your value and your identity. √ If you are pressed down and smothered - He can set you free. √ If you are captivated by fear and the weights of your life - He is there for you. We extend this conversation into the two links below - which unfold much more on this unique power that has been experienced by so many. Peace friend! Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36630950

S8E10 - God's Home Base is our homebase 05/13/2025

S8E10 - God's Home Base is our homebase Everyone operates from a home base. Our upbringing. Our experiences. Our choices. Even factors made on our behalf by others. Through all of this we build our home base. Scientifically we apply what we see and learn. Philosophical we land on what we have wrestled with in our lives - positively and negatively. And to the degree we have encountered and contemplated faith we solidify our beliefs. Or not. We have pondered this through the years, and often with each turning of a new year we have reset ourselves to sift through what has unfolded and what we hope - and the things we are committed to for the days ahead. It is a very imperfect process, but the reset always brings us one or more degrees of focus from our core - and into our home base. Choosing to represent ourselves accurately and honestly can be helpful as we assess our progress on the journey. It can allow for an informed and sincere refocusing and choices which add up with solid "vision". Our calculus and direction Many speak of vision but we have learned to ask what principles are guiding our choices? What is it we want to accomplish? What will bring us a satisfied mind? What am I doing this moment and how will it impact the desire of my heart? Investment in our relationships Living for what we can give others rather than merely what we can get from them is an amazingly different way to live. Family. Friends. Co-workers. Neighbors. Like-minded companions. Expenditures of our time Someone has said "Time is like a flowing river. Our best choices involve scooping up buckets of time and watering things which will not go away." God and people are eternal. Everything else is a vapor. There is both an audio and video recording for you to choose from on a subject worth contemplating. After all, who wants to spend our life climbing a wall only to find we have been climbing the wrong wall?! Dave and Burnadette Doing our best to live under His wings! /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36507825

S8E09 - Shelter of Connection 05/06/2025

S8E09 - Shelter of Connection One deep question for life seekers: "what does connection with God look like?" For years authors have pondered this, scientifically, philosophically, and through the optics of faith. For Moses it was all about shelter. Check out Psalm 90. A Prayer of Moses, the man of God. "Lord, You have been our dwelling place in all generations. Before the mountains were born or You gave birth to the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God. You turn man back into dust and say, “Return, O children of men.” For a thousand years in Your sight are like yesterday when it passes by, or as a watch in the night. You have swept them away like a flood and they fall asleep. In the morning they are like grass which sprouts again - in the morning it flourishes and sprouts and toward evening it fades and withers away. For we have been consumed by Your anger and by Your wrath we have been dismayed. You have placed our iniquities before You and our secret sins in the light of Your presence. For all our days have declined in Your fury and we have finished our years like a sigh. As for the days of our life, they contain seventy years, or if due to strength, eighty years, yet their pride amounts only to labor and sorrow. For soon it is gone and we fly away. Who understands the power of Your anger and Your fury, according to the fear that is due You? So teach us to number our days, that we may present to You a heart of wisdom. Do return, O Lord; how long will it be? And be sorry for Your servants. Satisfy us in the morning with Your lovingkindness, that we may sing for joy and be glad all our days. Make us glad according to the days You have afflicted us, and the years we have seen evil. Let Your work appear to Your servants and Your majesty to their children. Let the favor of the Lord our God be upon us and confirm for us the work of our hands. Yes, confirm the work of our hands. A Psalm of David/Psalm 61For the choir director on a stringed instrument. "Hear my cry, O God; give heed to my prayer. From the end of the earth I call to You when my heart is faint; lead me to the rock that is higher than I. For You have been a refuge for me, a tower of strength against the enemy. Let me dwell in Your tent forever; let me take refuge in the shelter of Your wings. Selah (I lift this up). For You have heard my vows, O God; You have given me the inheritance of those who fear Your name. You will prolong the king’s life; his years will be as many generations. He will abide before God forever; appoint lovingkindness and truth that they may preserve him. So I will sing praise to Your name forever, that I may pay my vows day by day." David understood a number of things about his connection to His King. √ Stability comes from a higher place. √ True shelter is forever. √ Living in God's tent is a choice - and a blessing for this life and the one to come. √ For David it was a connection of heart, mind, and soul. Connection Questions: - When and how have you felt most connected to your Creator? - What brings this kind of connection for you? - Do you feel you have come to trust God for your welfare? - In what ways does fear challenge you? Where does Jesus fit into your God connection? John 17 is a Son-to-Father connection conversation. Take the time to check it out. What was it that Jesus wanted for His children? Headed where we belong! Dave and Burnadette Storiesofshelter.com More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36346250

S8E08 - Shelter of The Spirit 04/29/2025

S8E08 - Shelter of The Spirit As mentioned before, the trinity is in many ways a mystery to us. It is not to our Creator. In Genesis 1 "the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters." The Father created and the Spirit moved. From His mind to His hands. And where was the Son while this unfolded? Apparently creating right along with Him. "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities — all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven." Colossians 1:15-20 There is no doubt that this is the Son mentioned in Psalm 2 and the One named Jesus according to hundreds of years of incredible prophecies. Now move forward to the "last" chapter of God's Word - Revelation 22:12-17: “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying. I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star. The Spirit and the bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost." Do you see it? The Biblical thread of the Spirit (Holy Spirit) is found from chapter 1 through chapter last. He is the hands and feet of God. And His shelter extends to our souls as well, because if God wills it, the Spirit does it. And this is very personal to every disciple of Jesus. “When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me, and you will testify also, because you have been with Me from the beginning." John 15:26-27 Also note Proverbs 8 regarding the wisdom of God! So the shelter of the Holy Spirit is everything because He IS the shelter of the Father and His dear Son. The Father is the mind Who creates, the Son is at His right hand to bring Him honor, and the Holy Spirit creates and animates the Wisdom of God. Does this make sense? As with all areas of the threads of truth from the Word of God, God weaves together what we need to understand His mind and heart - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit! There is much to say on this subject but let's summarize with how the Holy Spirit specifically gives us shelter. √ He discloses Jesus to us. √ He cleanses our conscience and heals our heart. √ He leads us in truth when we do not know what to do or where to go. √ He brings us into the peaceful presence of God Himself. “But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you." John 16:13-15 Peace in the Spirit to you friend! Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36263655

S8E07 - Shelter of the Father 04/22/2025

S8E07 - Shelter of the Father God is a sheltering being. He provides shelter. But even more than this - He IS shelter. In fact, He is building the ultimate shelter family through the work of His Son. Jesus is the connector to our Creator. God wants to mentor us. We know this because He mentored Jesus. The Son’s best friend while He was on the earth was His Dad. He learned from Him. He was dedicated to His will. He gave up all things God and all things human for His friendship with His Father. You can find Mentored by God under books in the Fourthstream navbar. It investigates the ins and outs of how Jesus connected with His Dad, giving us a template for our own connection. Here are few things to help connect us with the Father of all living things √ Sort through your own personal daddy issues and cut them off from projecting onto the heavenly Father. √ Jesus Name is key to communicating with the Father. When you come to your Father acknowledge the authority of His dear Son Who covers our sin and offers access to God’s throne. √ Activate the honor of your heart alongside the respect you hold for your Creator and the opportunity to live pleasing to Him. Humility is the key to His Kingdom: “Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, but humility goes before honor.” – Proverbs 18:12 √ Embrace your Father’s voice above all others. When God’s Word is known and revered, it is a powerful connector and helps us discern His voice among all of the voices we hear each day from within and without. The Holy Spirit is God's voice to the world and to us. How can we hear such a transcendent voice? “Therefore the LORD God of Israel declares, ‘I did indeed say that your house and the house of your father should walk before Me forever’; but now the LORD declares, ‘Far be it from Me — for those who honor Me I will honor, and those who despise Me will be lightly esteemed.” – 1 Samuel 2:30 This is pretty cool: “Then David the king went in and sat before the LORD, and he said, “Who am I, O Lord GOD, and what is my house, that You have brought me this far?” – 2 Samuel 7:18 Sometimes we feel God does not hear us. This is simply not true. All things brought in the Name of Jesus will come before our Creator. In fact, “the pure (humble) in heart will see God!” Talking to Him with you, Dave and Burnadette Related Links: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36220145

S8E06 - Our Spiritual Core 04/15/2025

S8E06 - Our Spiritual Core Most humans look at God things as a choice. I get this, but I have been thinking it is incomplete. If there is a Creator and He made all things - it seems to me that He is the one who is making the choice, right? Weighing this has become a key premise for me about spirituality. Does it begin with me - or with Him? I realize this is kind of out there, but most other options are limiting. If it all begins with us then it will be biased - more self-driven and me-driven. This appears to be the main issue with all religions (including historic christianity) - very self-driven. I have found even an atheist has faith. All this to say all of us have a spiritual core - even those who discard the very idea of a supreme being. This is perhaps one of the most significant contemplations of our existence. Is there a "greater", and where do we fit? How would you describe your core? How has it been shaped? Where does it leave you - both on the inside and the outside? Here are some things that may stimulate deeper thinking and conversation about what really matters related to our spiritual core. Things that appear to shape us: √ The things learned from circumstances over which we have no control. Our family and upbringing. Where we were born. Our socio-economic factors. The things that happen through "chance" as we march toward and into adulthood. What have been your main shaping circumstances and occurrences? √ What is modeled to us by significant players in our lives. We are so influenced by those close to us or whom we choose to value and emulate. Who have been these "giants" been in your life? The good ones and the not so good ones. √ Chance encounters and twists in the road. What are some of these pivotal moments for you - a relocation, a family tragedy such as a divorce or death, etc. What specific things have sent you in an unchosen yet significant direction? √ Things that come from our survival instinct. Words spoken in reaction or haste. Self-protective responses to neglect or attack. Choices we make to survive economically or relationally. Friend successes. Friend conflicts. Victories. Losses. √ What has been driven by love? Where have these love connections emerged and remained, arrived, or disappeared? To what degree do you feel your heart has been overtaken by love? Rejected by love? Rejecting of love? Disappointed? Would you consider yourself a person who lives in love? √ What is driven by hate? Where have you experienced hurt from others and become embittered? In what ways has forgiveness emerged in the way you approach life? All of this leads to where we find ourselves in our identity - and how we act upon it. When pursuing each of our spiritual cores, these and many other factors shape us or drive - and even chase us. God says our original condition is value. Life circumstances and relationship often diminish or try to dissuade us in thinking we have value. "So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” (John 8:31-32) Jesus invites us to freedom in our spiritual core. “So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed." (John 8:36) What is it that defines you at your core? Who do you think you are? How do you think your Creator feels about you when He looks at your life? Here is the heart of Kingdom Spirituality. First King. How are you connected to your King? Then Kingdom. How has His Kingdom impacted the choices and trajectory in your life? Then Church. In what ways have you recovered your God-identity, and how are you sharing it with those around you or through your gifts, your choices for how you live, with the people who you love and care for or in what you choose to give of your time, talents, and treasures? Peace friend! Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36046975

S8E05 - The Pursuit of Shelter 04/08/2025

S8E05 - The Pursuit of Shelter Often we must understand bad news in order to perceive and appreciate good news. It is the same with finding shelter. Until we are uncovered it is difficult to appreciate being covered. This is the nature of all life. Impermanence. Limited control. The necessity to learn to hope. A good question: Who has given you shelter? A parent? A teacher? A sibling? A neighbor? What was your exposure, and how did the shelter occur? If so, what difference did such shelter give toward shaping you? If you have received shelter in your life then you know what relief can occur with these kinds of action. How does a person find shelter? Shelter often finds us. Perhaps through the person who has chosen to notice or decided to be aware - and act. In someone who looks my way when everyone else seems not to notice. It would be great if it was easy to surround ourselves with shelter hearts and souls, but this appears to be the exception. A shelter heart has often experienced shelter himself/herself. When we have experienced shelter it is more readily apparent to us. We may even choose friends based upon the safety we feel when we are around them. Safety is an interesting concept. What makes us feel safe? When you feel safe what are the things which come from such a mindset? What makes us exposed? What are your fear factors that set you off? When do you feel the most peaceful - at rest - accepted? The Living God IS Shelter. Shelter is found and embraced through revelation and usually through 1) nature (both the macro and the micro), 2) the Word (Bible), or 3) in the peace we find in being known (Jesus). Psalm 107 tells the story of how God's people found Shelter in their troubles - just as we may experience. It is somewhat lengthy so we will excerpt some of the declarative statements: "Oh give thanks to the LORD, for He is good, for His lovingkindness is everlasting. Let the one who is brought back from trouble (the adversary)by the LORD say so..." (1-3) "Let them give thanks to the LORD for His lovingkindness, and for His astonishing wonders to the sons of men! For He has satisfied the thirsty soul, and the hungry soul He has filled with what is good." (8-9) "There were those who made their home in darkness and in the shadow of death, prisoners in misery and chains, because they had rebelled against the words of God and spurned the counsel of the Most High. Therefore He humbled their heart with labor - they stumbled and there was none to help. Then they cried out to the LORD in their trouble; He saved them out of their distresses. He brought them out of darkness and the shadow of death and broke their bands apart." (10-14) "Then they cried out to the LORD in their trouble; He saved them out of their distresses. He sent His word and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions. Let them give thanks to the LORD for His lovingkindness, and for His wonders to the sons of men!" (19-21) "They reeled and staggered like a drunken man, and were at their wits’ end. Then they cried to the LORD in their trouble, and He brought them out of their distresses. He caused the storm to be still, so that the waves of the sea were hushed. Then they were glad because they were quiet, so He guided them to their desired haven. Let them give thanks to the LORD for His lovingkindness, and for His wonders to the sons of men!" (28-31) But He sets the needy securely on high away from affliction, and makes his families like a flock." (41) Now THAT is a sheltering force! Another good reflective question: Who have you provided shelter to? In what ways has God taught you to recognize and respond to those around you who need shelter? What has providing shelter for another done to expand your own heart and soul. To pursue shelter we must see the VALUE in it. We must identify a SOURCE of true shelter and embrace it. We then benefit from being drawn into a life of sheltering OTHERS - following the example of our Lord God - and finding lives of grateful thankfulness (did you notice the repeated thankful thread in Psalm 107?) Pursuing shelter with you! Dave and Burnadette /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/36046860

S8E04 - Kingdom Spirituality 04/01/2025

S8E04 - Kingdom Spirituality There is a spirituality which finds roots in God's Son Jesus Himself. While there are many religions, there is only one proven to be the Son of God, and He is the King over His Kingdom. This is the Story of the God Story. What this means is massive, and today we will cover several of the core amazing things about experiencing Kingdom spirituality. It is authentic, connective, and filled with promise for the life to come. √ How does this result in finding true meaning in my life? The expansiveness of God is beyond our imagination. We are quite limited in grasping this, and yet God has withheld nothing from us in understanding His ways. As we will all take our last breath eventually, what is it that will make my life count? A big deal. √ How does it differ from other religious pursuits? A consideration of all religion in history reveals many shortcomings, including historic christianity. Kingdom spirituality is very personal and powerful. It is the ultimate gift from our heavenly King. √ How can I find shelter within His Kingdom? What IS shelter? How do I find it? Why does it matter to my existence, and more importantly, to my soul. Let's dive in. Both John the Baptist and Jesus began their "public ministries" with the words: "Turn away and turn towards, for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matthew) They did not say that the church was at hand - but the Kingdom. This is because the God-order is this: King first, then Kingdom, then church. Each has unique things to bring to a person who is looking for authentic faith. All three can be deeply relational, but it is the King and His Spirit who animate authentic spirituality. Make sense? Today we talk about five aspects of authentic Kingdom Spirituality. Friendship “You are My friends if you do what I command you." John 15:14 "And Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as being made righteous," and he was called the friend of God." James 2:23 Easy, right? What does His friendship require by way of His commands? How is a person "made righteous?" Where have you come so far in your friendship with God? What does it look like? Where do you hope it will go? Identity It is hard to imagine being God's special treasure, and yet this is exactly who we are. Not based upon our personal merit, but because God has set His affections upon us and paid a huge price to buy us back from spiritual death. We have simply become the apple (pupil) of His eye. When we understand there will only ever be one of us, that we were bought with a huge price, and that His plans for us are beyond our wildest dreams - then we are beginning to understand our identity. "For I know the plans that I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope." (Jeremiah 29:11) The King is Lord over all. The Kingdom will endure forever. The Church will become the bride of Christ. Purpose There is nothing random about what God is doing, or why He selected you to be a part of His Kingdom! When we see ourselves as friends of God we are made free to grow in intimacy with Him. Experiencing His friendship IS hearing His voice. When we grasp our uniqueness in the plan of God our identity expands. "Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body." (1 Corinthians 6:19-20) Our destiny is to learn and bend to His purpose. This is how we "find ourselves." “He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:39) Satisfaction As all of this unfolds over days, months, years, and decades we move more deeply into the waters of the Living God. We learn what being sheltered "under His wings" looks like. It is not a taking away of difficulty or pain - only smooth sailing. It is satisfaction of heart as we become acclimated to the things that are important to God - and those which are becoming important to us. "He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings you may seek refuge; His faithfulness is a shield and protection." (Psalm 90 and 91 - shelter Psalms of Moses?) Hope All of these things result in hope. Not the kind of hope where I "hope something happens" but the hope which grows as we place ourselves in the hands of our King. We learn to "...but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." And as Paul also mentions: "...and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us." These are some of things which help us to live in the shelter of Kingdom spirituality! Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/35958545

S8E03 - Word Roots Deep Dive 03/25/2025

S8E03 - Word Roots Deep Dive We read stories. We tell stories. We live stories. Here is a deep dive story of the ROOT WORDS FOR SHELTER. There are several Hebrew words which reflect and define shelter which are found in the Law of Moses and the prophets of Israel. A Roof of Beams (as in a home) Genesis 19:8 quarah A Refuge (as a hiding place) Job 24:8 chasah A Screen that overshadows (like a filter) Psalm 5:11 sakak A Concealed location (as protection) Psalm 61:4 sether A Woven Booth/secret Psalm 31:20 sukkah - where the feast of booths was derived (Jacob: Genesis 33:17; Nehemiah 8:15). It is the seventh and final feast of the Jewish calendar (see Pentecost - the probable date of the birth of Jesus (John 1:14) In addition the idea of a "secret place" is discussed in Psalm 91:1 as well as finding refuge in God (Isaiah 4:6; 1:8) (sukkah) and not in Egypt (Isaiah 30:2,3; 32:2). In Jonah 4:5 there is shade from the beating sun. What this means is that our Shelter God is our covering - "a sun AND a shield to those who fear Him" (Psalm 84) What is feast of Sukkot? Festival of Booths (follow the threads: John 7:1-9) - 5 days after Yom Kippur - 7 days in Sept-October When we get to the so-called "new testament" we search for the word shelter in the greek language and quickly realize that Jesus has launched His own Kingdom view of shelter. Our value to the Son of Man is great (Matthew 6:25-34)where the "birds of the air" are spoken of by Jesus. This builds upon what He has already mentioned in Luke 3:18-32 when He gives the results of the growing mustard seed plant in Matthew 13: "He presented another parable to them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field; and this is smaller than all other seeds, but when it is full grown, it is larger than the garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches.” Jesus has led us back to our "nest" in the Father. God is our "nest." Why is this important? Then a scribe came and said to Him, “Teacher, I will follow You wherever You go.” Jesus said to him, “The foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.” - Matthew 8:19,20 Where did Jesus find His shelter? In His Father. This is why He would withdraw often to spend time before the face of His Father! Our great God IS Shelter! He was Jesus' only rest and He is our only true rest as well. Two ongoing questions for our lives: Where have I received shelter? Where have I given shelter? Peace friend! Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/35848645

S8E02 - King, Kingdom, Church 03/04/2025

S8E02 - King, Kingdom, Church To find shelter we must find Jesus. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. We can choose to believe this or not, but there is pretty compelling evidence it is true. His story through the Jews and the Church is so expansive. I read a quote once: "the Bible is not a book one would write if he could or could write if he would." It is a supernatural story about a 100% lost human race who need to find our way back to God. Totally unflattering to all of us. And yet in His Story we find the life-line which anyone can grasp in order to change our lost trajectory. There is no getting around the fact that if there is no Jesus revolution we are lost in our "sin." Dead. Having drowned in the ocean with our heart eaten out by a shark - floating on the bottom for a thousand years. Dead dead. His coming, His story and teaching and miracles, and His clear display of power over death not only the things which inspire religion - they power the Kingdom heart as well. So why King - then Kingdom - then Church? And how and why has this so often been turned into Church - then Kingdom - then the King? It is quite simple: when humans are involved opportunism and subjugation rule the day. It is the story of history: institutions, kings, nations, the few democracies which have existed, corporations, education, medicine, or religion itself - all are filled with people. And people take advantage of and oppress one another. Not so with the King of the universe Who came near to "seek and save that which is lost." His heart, mind, and soul were perfect. His motives were free from the opportunism of mankind. I am not advocating a cynical worldview, just a realistic one built upon the truths so clearly spoken in the Word of God. If we bend before the Son, we also do so before our Creator Father. If we do not bend our wills, we die a forever spiritual death. Bending (humbling) comes naturally for NO ONE. It is an evidence of the presence of God and a gift from God. "Humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God and He will exalt you at the proper time." So Jesus shows up and teaches us about the Kingdom. Not the church. The greek word church is "ekklesia." It means a "called out assembly." Jesus uses the word church twice in the Gospels but the word Kingdom over 100 times. "Turn away from your futile, lost path and toward the life path." The church may do Kingdom work (some do and some don't), but disciples of the Kingdom are dedicated to following our King. Understanding and living out His Kingdom. Being a blessing to His "called out ones" in every decade and year. The Kingdom is simply the work God is doing in the world. So Jesus calls us to a heart life that is dedicated to the honor of our King. We set ourselves aside and place the desire of God for our lives as the focus of our aspirations. The Gospels explain the Kingdom implicitly. His disciples heard His words and, as we can see from a number of their letters (such as James, Peter, and John), spent their remaining time on this earth living out the Kingdom for the benefit of His "called out assembly" - the church! So how does one find this kind of focus? By searching the Word of God daily. By sifting through the differences and similarities of the Kingdom and the Church. Jesus' parables, miracles, and people encounters are God's final word on King and Kingdom. It is up to us to apply His words into our own stories of faith. Some great questions as you consider each aspect of the Kingdom in the Gospels: 1) What is Jesus teaching us about Himself? 2) What is He teaching us about ourselves? 3) What picture is He constructing of what our destiny will look like? This is how we immerse ourselves in Kingdom teaching - and live it out in our lives! Peace upon your heart today, friend! Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/35531760

S8E01 - Shelter Invitation 02/18/2025

S8E01 - Shelter Invitation When I think about the people who have provided shelter for me through the years there are multiple faces that come to mind. A parent. A teacher. A neighbor. A mentor. A sibling. It is good for me to review my story periodically and think about those who have provided guidance or impacted or even changed my trajectory (whether intentionally or incidentally). So we invite you into this question: "Who has been used to impact me by coming alongside and even covering me in my unfolding years?" Shelter is Who our Creator is. Within our turbulence there is One who pays attention to our comings and goings, and who intervenes for our ultimate welfare and help. This can take many forms, and sometimes may only be seen in the rear-view mirror. There are a number of Hebrew words which describe the shelter we receive in life. Again - not just for our bodies, but for our minds, hearts, and souls as well. Behind every act of shelter is the power and favor of God. Turbulence and imperfection appear to reign - but they do not! This leads to the second question of our invitation to you: "Who have you personally given or chosen to provide shelter to in your journey?" Where have you chosen to dedicate your time, your talents, or your treasures to covering someone who is exposed? And what has been the result of such actions? To the person? To your own heart? We were watching a movie the other day called Driveways, Brian Dennehy's final movie, where he plays a veteran of the Korean War. Living alone, he befriends a young, shy boy who has come with his mother to clean out his deceased aunt's hoarded home. Do you know you are viewing a good movie when, as one of our grands says, "your eyes get all watery?" These are the memorable things. Those which resonate with some aspect of shelter. This is because we are made in the image of God. Our 8th podcast season will include at least 16 episodes of one aspect of the significance of these two questions: Who has given me Shelter and to whom have I provided shelter. We think you will enjoy and benefit from joining us to read and tell stories of shelter at Storiesofshelter.com, where we are building an on-line shelter community. Good for our hearts! We are with you! Dave and Burnadette Previous podcast seasons: Season #1 The Freedom Laws - 31 Episodes Season #2 The War - 30 Episodes Season #3 Turbulence of Imperfection - 33 Episodes Season #4 Kingdom Core - 14 Episodes Season #5 God’s Man/God’s Woman - 11 Episodes Season #6 My Learning Heart - 13 Episodes Season #7 The Power of Hope - 20 Episodes /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/35315590

S7E20 - His Great Name 02/04/2025

S7E20 - His Great Name How can something be one and three at the same time? The trinity is much more than a teaching or doctrine of the historical church. It describes the eternal nature of God. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have always existed in fullness, completeness, and oneness. They have enjoyed perfect relationship throughout eternity, even before time was set in motion. When our great God decided to create other beings, angels, and then humanity He did not do so because He was lonely or incomplete. He did so in order for us to share His glory. This is the destination of mankind despite the entrance of sin into the world. It is all about His Great Name. It is not merely His title(s) as it is His essence - and we are invited to discover and live within the boundaries of His mind and heart. When Moses received the Law on the mountain (written by the finger of God), it was a truly monumental encounter. Each mention of LORD here is His Name Yahweh, which translates "I Am Who I Am." Moses is beginning to be able to hear and understand the voice of God as he encounters His Great Name. In His Name is ultimate authority. When He speaks - it becomes true. Notice the things the Lord is teaching Moses about Who He is! "The Lord descended in the cloud and stood there with him as he called upon the name of the Lord. Then the LORD passed by in front of him and proclaimed, “The Lord, the Lord God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in lovingkindness and truth; who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations.” Moses made haste to bow low toward the earth and worship. He said, “If now I have found favor in Your sight, O Lord, I pray, let the Lord go along in our midst, even though the people are so obstinate, and pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us as Your own possession.” Exodus 34:5-9 Compassionate. Gracious. Slow to anger. Abounding in lovingkindness AND truth. Keeping lovingkindness for thousands. Forgiving iniquity. Bringing justice. This is a powerful thumbnail of Who God is!!! As we know from the entire God Story, mankind has ups and downs, yet the Lord never changes. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever! As we look through the Story we see amplifications of His greatness as He deals with the sons and daughters of men. “For the Lord will not abandon His people on account of His great name, because the Lord has been pleased to make you a people for Himself." 1 Samuel 12:22 Jesus found His shelter in His Father, just as He always had. Though He shared His great Name, He humbled Himself to the form of a man in order to taste and overcome death for all who embrace Him - per the eternal plan made between the "trinity." He did not back off from who He was: “Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? The prophets died too; whom do You make Yourself out to be?” Jesus answered, “If I glorify Myself, My glory is nothing; it is My Father who glorifies Me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God’; and you have not come to know Him, but I know Him; and if I say that I do not know Him, I will be a liar like you, but I do know Him and keep His word. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” So the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple." John 8:53-59 Here is what we use to stimulate understanding of His Great Name - for all who are interested! We are with you! Dave and Burnadette https://fourthstream.com/conversations/knowing-jesus/ /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/35133890

S7E19 - The Pure And The Stained 01/28/2025

S7E19 - The Pure And The Stained It is difficult to conceive of what is pure and what is impure in our current world culture. And to be fair - throughout the history of mankind. When you live in a grey world the contrasts of Light and darkness seem to evaporate. So it is up to the Christ-follower to be busy about Kingdom things such as caring for the widow and the fatherless. Basically true religion involves caring for the unprotected and those who have no father image of love. This is why things like adoption and "foster" parenting can be so powerful. We cover. We shelter. Just as God has done for us. "Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world." - James 1:27 What do you see around you right now on this? The word spotless translates as unstained. It comes from a root meaning to go over a cliff. So while the sons of Adam are always in danger of going over the edge, the sons of the second Adam (Jesus) are saved by His Word - and then cleansed of our imperfections and guilt. More on the cleansing part in a moment from John 13. John is succinct on the reality of this: "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world." (1 John 2:16) This makes clear where our vulnerabilities lie. Three categories to help us simplify the process of discerning defiled or impure "religion." Keep in mind that "religion" is anything we dedicate our hearts to! 1) The lust of the flesh is the passionate longing for what is temporary which results in our attention and intentions being captured by coveting what belongs to another. The heart of fallen Adam says "I want." 2) The lust of the eyes is the essence of envy which captures our imaginations and leads us into devaluing or trashing others and exalting ourselves (like neglecting the unprotected widow and fatherless around us). The fallen heart of Adam says "I see what I want and I am entitled to it." 3) The boastful pride of life. This could be translated "arrogant imposters of meaning." Here we exercise our "right" to define what is true, what is of value, and the things which are beneficial to self. Adam's image says "I take." Here is where the second Adam (Jesus) comes in. He cleanses us. He can do this even after we have fallen over the precipice. Bring us back to life after a fatal fall. This is the very nature of repentance (turning away) and redemption (turning toward). God brings us back from our deadly fall in Adam, and restores us to our original place - made in the image of God. "For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive." 1 Corinthians 15:22 When Jesus opens our eyes we exchange the futility of the first Adam for the perfections of the second Adam. No matter how far we have fallen over the edge He is able to bring us back. We are then blessed to have a cleansed conscience which can, moving forward, reject the lust of the flesh, the eyes, and the pride of life. Hence the huge impact of humility upon the forgiven soul. This is woven into the story at every level. We are with you, Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/35033665

S7E18 - Come to Me 01/21/2025

S7E18 - Come to Me Because Jesus is Savior of nations and He has taken upon Himself the sins of the world He makes some pretty incredible claims - and beautiful invitations! While religion often makes Jesus faith complicated - He never does. He is very strait-forward. Direct. “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My justice is easy and My burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30 Where we see burdens He sees opportunity for the soul to expand. "Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’” John 7:37 Where we cover over our thirst and become unquenchable He invites us to drink from endless inner rivers of water. Jesus invites us to bring our burdens to Him. When we are worn out, weighed down, and discouraged He extends Himself to us. But we must come to Him. Jesus does not force Himself on us. He offers sincere invitations to freedom. By bringing our burdens to Him we are no longer alone. As we come we exchange these heavy weights for His weights - His yoke and His justice. When we understand that His justice will ultimately prevail, and that His burdens are light (because He carries them along with us) we are led into a new reality that is superior to the old. I no longer need to walk alone. And I have His living water springing up from the inside of me. Wow. This reality permeates everything Jesus did and taught, and it is why He had no time for the self-righteous religionists of His time. Not only do we have direct access to Him, there is no benefit to going through a middle man (or middle person). We are given full rights and power to abide. His oil of blessing anoints every one of His followers, and fuels the power of our spirituality. "As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him." 1 John 2:27 What is your greatest treasure? Faith? Hope? Love? Each of these "greatest gifts" lead to peace and rest, and this is what Jesus offers us as He invites us to "come." Beautiful. He is with us! Dave and Burnadette More: /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/34941370

S7E17 - A Strong Shelter Home 01/14/2025

S7E17 - A Strong Shelter Home God IS shelter. He intervenes over and over into our lives to help us to find the way of truth and freedom of soul - and the Door to eternity. This is to be the goal and work of every parent. We live in an imperfect world and yet we are tasked with "Train up a child in the way he should go, and even when he is old he will not depart from it." (Proverbs 22:6) There is nothing automatic about this. It is not so much a promise but a principle. If we do our heart work we give our sons and daughters all we can to find their way within their own journey. Check this out: “Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. “These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise up." - Deuteronomy 6:4-7 The woven biblical thread concerning family is displayed both through principle and the examples revealed in the timeless God Story. From this we derive a home base, allowing us to return again and again to the fountain of life for the benefit of those we love - through good times and bad. Consider this: "Unless the Lord builds the house, they work in vain who build it; unless the Lord guards the city, the watchman keeps awake in futility. It is vain for you to rise up early, to retire late, to eat the bread of painful labors; for He gives to His beloved even in his sleep. Behold, children are a gift of the Lord, the fruit of the womb is a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior, so are the children of one’s youth. How blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them; they will not be ashamed when they speak with their enemies in the gate." Psalm 127 Here are some of the ways we shelter those we love: √ We can give them every opportunity to know truth and honor as it is imperfectly pursued and lived out in our family's life. √ We can love each other in a way which brings security and steadfast love into the challenges of our own family story. √ We can walk beside each other and our children through the ups and downs that inevitably come as the years unfold. Parenting giving way to friendship is a gift. We can be a steady, loving force - no matter how imperfect our stories. √ We can pursue our own humility in God and faithfully live that humility out in love toward our kids and grandkids. √ We are given the great hope of interceding and praying for our kids. As they encounter their ups and downs, we can be there, taking their needs (and ours) before the throne of grace to find mercy in our times of need. √ We can be a good friend to others and model this as best we can for our own family, with the hope each one will find the shelter of selfless friendship. “May the Lord reward your work, and your wages be full from the Lord, the God of Israel, under whose wings you have come to seek refuge.” Ruth 2:12 "He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say to the Lord, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust! For it is He who delivers you from the snare of the trapper and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings you may seek refuge; His faithfulness is a shield and armor to protect us." Psalm 91:1-4 While we live in an imperfect environment (and family) our God is Good. When we call upon the Lord on behalf of ourselves and our family we are doing the work of God. Living God, You are the Deliverer of our souls and those we love! Dave and Burnadette /episode/index/show/fourthstreamfindinghope/id/34841965

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