Getting Smart Podcast
This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership. Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.
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Dennis “Doc” Littky on Expanding The Vision: College Unbound
01/08/2025
Dennis “Doc” Littky on Expanding The Vision: College Unbound
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Dennis "Doc" Littky, an educational innovator whose work with Big Picture Learning and College Unbound is reshaping the landscape of personalized and experiential education. From the inception of Big Picture Learning, which challenges conventional schooling with its "leaving to learn" model, to the founding of College Unbound, a transformative institution serving adult learners, Littky shares his journey and insights. He discusses the importance of making education relevant and personalized, with each student following their unique path. Tune in to discover how Littky's visionary approach is influencing schools worldwide and paving new pathways for students of all ages. Outline Links
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Adam Kulaas on Tacoma Public Schools Being a City-Connected, Career-Connected District
12/18/2024
Adam Kulaas on Tacoma Public Schools Being a City-Connected, Career-Connected District
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark delves into the innovative educational approaches of Tacoma Public Schools, highlighting their commitment to integrating college and career readiness into a unified pathway. Partnering with Tacoma, Tom speaks with Adam Kulaas, Director of Innovative Learning, who shares insights on how the district is empowering students for life readiness. The focus is on engaging learners in meaningful work today while preparing them for future opportunities through practical, real-world applications. This approach is not just about bridging the gap between education and industry but fostering a mindset that values both the "now" and "next" stages of a student's journey. The conversation also explores Tacoma's strategic partnerships and the diverse pathways available to students, such as the Jobs 253 program and dual-credit opportunities. These partnerships, including collaborations with local industries and educational institutions, are key to providing students with hands-on experiences and credentials that are relevant to the current job market. Tacoma's approach embodies an asset-based model of education, where existing resources are leveraged to create robust, personalized learning experiences. This episode serves as an inspiring example of how intentional pathways can transform education, ensuring all students have access to high-wage employment and lifelong learning opportunities. Outline Links:
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Jennifer Purcell on Future Ready Oregon and a Future Ready Workforce
12/11/2024
Jennifer Purcell on Future Ready Oregon and a Future Ready Workforce
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark delves into the intricacies of workforce development and public leadership with Jennifer Purcell, the director of Future Ready Oregon. This state-level initiative represents a groundbreaking approach to aligning education and workforce systems, with a strong emphasis on equity and access. Jennifer shares insights into how Future Ready Oregon has successfully secured over $200 million in funding to support diverse learners and workers, creating pathways that connect education and high-demand career opportunities. The conversation highlights innovative programs like Workforce Navigators, which address broader needs such as transportation and childcare, ensuring equitable access to education and training. Outline Links
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Laura Slover and Mike Flanagan on Skills for the Future
12/04/2024
Laura Slover and Mike Flanagan on Skills for the Future
In this episode of the Getting Smart podcast, Tom Vander Ark is in conversation with Laura Slover and Mike Flanagan, focusing on the transformative initiatives in education being spearheaded by ETS and the Mastery Transcript Consortium (MTC). The discussion gets into the Skills for the Future initiative, emphasizing the shift from traditional education models towards competency-based education that aligns with the demands of a rapidly evolving workforce. This initiative, a collaboration between ETS and the Carnegie Foundation, seeks to broaden educational goals beyond conventional academics to include essential skills like communication, critical thinking, and civic engagement. By embedding innovative assessment tools in several states, the program aims to capture authentic evidence of student learning both in and out of the classroom, thus preparing students more effectively for future challenges. Outline Links
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Competency-Based Education on the Getting Smart Podcast
11/27/2024
Competency-Based Education on the Getting Smart Podcast
In the podcast episode featuring Laurie Gagnon, the focus is on the transformative potential of Competency-Based Education (CBE) in reshaping K-12 learning environments. Laurie discusses how CBE moves away from traditional seat-time-based models, emphasizing mastery of skills and knowledge at an individualized pace. This approach not only personalizes learning but also aligns with the Aurora Institute's vision of equitable education. By centering on explicit, measurable learning objectives, CBE empowers students to take charge of their educational journeys, promoting a deeper, more engaged form of learning. Laurie highlights examples of districts successfully implementing CBE, showcasing practical applications and the systemic changes required to support this educational model. Outline (00:00) Introduction and Guest Welcome (00:31) Understanding Competency-Based Education (04:16) Visualizing Competency-Based Education (07:54) Real-World Examples of CBE in Action (20:07) Addressing Equity and Future Directions Links:
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Danny Martin on Esposure
11/20/2024
Danny Martin on Esposure
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Victoria Andrews takes us into the transformative world of eSports alongside Danny Martin, co-founder and CEO of eSposure. With eSports growing into a $250 billion industry, it's more than just competitive gaming; it's a thriving ecosystem that fosters community, teaches valuable workforce skills, and opens pathways to entrepreneurship. Victoria shares how eSports has redefined the way students engage with education, offering opportunities for personal and professional growth. Danny talks about how programs like eSposure are bridging gaps, particularly for economically disadvantaged communities, by integrating technology and innovation into learning experiences. Outline (00:00) Introduction to Project Lead the Way (00:40) Discovering the World of eSports (03:29) The Community and Industry of eSports (09:03) Entrepreneurship and Education in eSports (17:55) Future of eSports and AI Integration Links
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Dr. Tim Dasey on Wisdom Factories and Turning the Educational Model Upside Down
11/13/2024
Dr. Tim Dasey on Wisdom Factories and Turning the Educational Model Upside Down
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Tim Dasey delve into the multifaceted impact of AI on education, exploring both the challenges and opportunities it presents. As AI becomes a larger part of various educational contexts, it prompts a reevaluation of traditional teaching methods and calls for the creation of new strategies to ensure students are prepared for an AI-driven world. Tim Dasey, drawing on his extensive experience in AI and education, emphasizes the need to shift from rote memorization to experiential learning approaches that foster critical thinking, adaptability, and problem-solving skills. This transformation is crucial for what Dasey refers to as "wisdom factories," where students not only acquire knowledge but also develop the intuition and judgment necessary to apply it effectively in diverse situations. The discussion highlights three innovative strategies for enhancing educational practices: integrating games to build experience and intuition, adopting "upside-down learning" that prioritizes problem-solving over traditional subject compartmentalization, and implementing "productivity therapy" to tailor AI tools to individual learning and teaching styles. By embracing these approaches, educators can create dynamic learning environments that encourage experimentation and adaptability, essential traits in a rapidly changing technological landscape. The conversation also touches on the importance of agile methodologies in education, advocating for iterative cycles of implementation and feedback to keep pace with evolving educational technologies and methodologies. Together, these insights provide a roadmap for educators and school leaders seeking to navigate the complexities of integrating AI into educational settings effectively. Outline (00:00) Introduction to Elevating Innovation Virtual Conference (01:00) AI and Education: A Fundamental Question (02:27) Tim Dacey's Journey and Insights on AI (09:26) Building Wisdom Factories: Skills for the Future (32:20) Practical Steps for Educators and Future Projects Links
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Dr. Christopher Emdin and Sam Seidel on From White Folks Who Teach in the Hood
11/06/2024
Dr. Christopher Emdin and Sam Seidel on From White Folks Who Teach in the Hood
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers gets into a profound discussion with Dr. Christopher Emdin and Sam Seidel about their latest work, "From White Folks Who Teach in the Hood." This conversation is essential for educators who are ready to challenge their own biases and rethink their roles in marginalized communities. Emdin and Seidel explore the importance of cultural competency and equity in education, asking educators to not only impart academic knowledge but also to create inclusive environments where all students feel seen and valued. They emphasize the need for educators to become agents of change, taking accountability for their impact and actively working to dismantle systemic inequities in the classroom. Outline (00:00) Introduction to Elevating Innovation Virtual Conference (01:04) Discussing 'From White People Who Teach in a Hood' (03:04) Challenges and Reflections on Cultural Competency (10:20) Practical Steps and Final Thoughts Links
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Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Accessibility
10/30/2024
Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Accessibility
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, hosts Jordan Luster and Victoria Andrews dive into the world of microschools, exploring how these small, adaptive learning environments are making education more accessible and equitable. The conversation touches on the different strategies employed by micro school leaders across the country, emphasizing their commitment to overcoming challenges like financial barriers and geographic limitations. Through real-world examples, listeners gain insight into how microschools are expanding their reach through unique funding models, education savings accounts, and community partnerships that ensure inclusivity for all students, regardless of their background. Outline Links
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Zoe Weil on The Solutionary Way
10/23/2024
Zoe Weil on The Solutionary Way
Project Lead the Way is a proven national leader in science, technology, engineering, and math education, for Pre-K through high school. They strive to help teachers make every student in every grade STEM-successful, through interactive, problem-based learning. Learn more and find a school with near you. In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we learn about "The Solutionary Way" with Zoe Weil, co-founder and president of the Institute for Humane Education. Zoe discusses her innovative approach to education that exceeds older problem-solving by integrating ethical considerations to ensure actions do the MOST good for all involved. We explore how adopting a solutionary mindset can transform education and empower students to tackle more complex global challenges, leading to a more equitable and sustainable world. Zoe Weil introduces listeners to the concept of "solutionaries"—individuals who identify and solve systemic problems through ethical action and strategic thinking. She shares insights from her book, "The Solutionary Way: Transform Your Life, Your Community, and the World for the Better," and discusses practical ways educators can implement solutionary thinking in classrooms. By encouraging a generation of solutionaries, Zoe hopes to prepare young people to become proactive changemakers capable of addressing the world's most daunting issues with compassion, and creativity. Outline (00:00) Introduction to STEM Education and Project Lead the Way (00:41) Introducing Zoe Weil and The Solutionary Way (02:41) The Impact and Expansion of Solutionary Education (14:46) Understanding the Solutionary Process (15:40) The Importance of Problem Identification (21:54) Implementing Solutionary Thinking in Education Links
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John Watson and Mawi Asgedom on Creating Innovative Experiences and Belonging for Adult Learners
10/16/2024
John Watson and Mawi Asgedom on Creating Innovative Experiences and Belonging for Adult Learners
In this podcast episode, Victoria Andrews gets into the transformative power of community in education. Joined by John Watson and Mawi Asgedom, the three discuss how fostering a sense of belonging and inclusion can lead to innovative learning environments. John Watson, the CEO of Evergreen Education Group, highlights the importance of creating spaces like the Digital Learning Annual Conference (DLAC) where educators can connect, share challenges, and learn from each other. This community-centric approach has helped educators overcome the isolation often felt in digital and hybrid learning environments. Mawi, author and CEO of Inner Heroes, shares his personal journey from a refugee camp to Harvard, emphasizing that true innovation in education begins with relationships. He highlights the need for educators to intentionally see and support "invisible" students, ensuring all learners are valued and empowered to take risks. Through tools like the Inner Heroes app, educators can gain deeper insights into students' strengths and aspirations, fostering a more inclusive and supportive learning environment. This conversation underscores that the key to successful innovation lies not just in technology, but in building strong, empathetic communities that nurture both students and educators. Outline: Links
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Nevada’s State Portrait of a Learner
10/09/2024
Nevada’s State Portrait of a Learner
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we are joined by an inspiring lineup of educational leaders who are at the forefront of transforming Nevada's educational landscape. Our guests are Jhone Ebert, Nevada's State Superintendent, and Jeanine Collins, Chief Innovation Officer at Ed Extraordinary. They discuss their pivotal roles in the creation and implementation of Nevada's State Portrait of a Learner. Alongside them, Brently Garbutt, Principal of Jerome Mack Middle School, and Claire Romzek, Magnet Coordinator at Lied STEM Academy, share firsthand experiences of how this is already reshaping learning environments and empowering students across the state. The episode dives deep into the contents of Nevada's State Portrait of a Learner, exploring how it serves human values and a sense of belonging within educational systems. Through community collaboration and competency-based learning, the initiative shoots to equip students with essential life skills that extend beyond traditional academic knowledge. Our guests discuss the importance of industry partnerships, the integration of design thinking in school projects, and the transformative impact on school culture and student engagement. This episode is evidence of the power of collective vision and action in creating a more inclusive and future-ready educational system. Outline (00:00) (00:11) (04:41) (17:23) (23:14) (28:10) Links
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Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Scalability
10/02/2024
Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Scalability
In this episode of the Getting Smart podcast, hosts Jordan Luster and Victoria Andrews talk to Desiree Corbin of Mindsprout Montessori, Tiffany Blasingame of the Ferguson School, Kenesha Skaggs of SOAR Academy, Coi Morefield of The Lab School of Memphis, Amar Kumar of KaiPod, and Julia Bamba from the Issaquah School District. Together. The conversation explores the opportunities and challenges of scaling microschools, highlighting different models and success stories. The hosts and their guests discuss both decentralized and centralized approaches to scaling, touching on the importance of community-based, personalized learning experiences. The episode talks about the potential microschools have to drive educational innovation and meet the diverse needs of students and families. Outline (00:00) Introduction and Overview (01:56) Scaling Microschools: Opportunities and Challenges (03:28) Innovative Models and Success Stories (15:21) Decentralized vs. Centralized Scaling (32:22) Conclusion and Future Directions Links
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Rachelle Dené Poth on How to Teach AI
09/25/2024
Rachelle Dené Poth on How to Teach AI
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark speaks with Rachelle Dené Poth, an esteemed educator, author, and ed tech expert, about the integration of AI in education. Rachelle shares insights from her latest book, How to Teach AI: Weaving Strategies and Activities into Any Content Area, highlighting the importance of using AI to enhance language learning and foster innovation among students. They discuss the evolving landscape of education with AI tools like Google Translate and ChatGPT, the critical need for professional development to keep up with emerging technologies, and the potential of AI to transform both teaching and learning experiences. Outline: (00:00) Introduction and Guest Welcome (02:04) Language Learning and AI (09:53) AI in Education: Strategies and Impact (20:23) Relational AI and Voice Interfaces (28:00) Future of AI in Education and Conclusion Links
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Carolyn Weir on Philanthropies as Intermediaries and a Radical 13th Year Promise
09/18/2024
Carolyn Weir on Philanthropies as Intermediaries and a Radical 13th Year Promise
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Carolyn Weir, Executive Director of the McClure Foundation, discussing Vermont's innovative Free Degree Promise. This initiative offers accelerated, debt-free pathways to post-secondary education, particularly benefiting students from rural and underserved communities. Carolyn shares insights on the successes and challenges of implementing such programs, the importance of partnerships, and how these efforts are shaping the future of education and workforce readiness. Tune in to learn how Vermont is leading the way in creating equitable and sustainable opportunities for all students. Outline: (00:00) Introduction and the Blurring Boundaries Between Education and the Workforce (01:24) Vermont’s Free Degree Promise and Its Impact on Rural Students (05:55) Measuring Success and Inclusivity (10:15) Success Stories and Student Motivations (15:07) Challenges and Future Plans for the 13-Year Promise Links:
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Kyle Wagner on 12 Shifts for Student-Centered Environments
09/11/2024
Kyle Wagner on 12 Shifts for Student-Centered Environments
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by project-based learning (PBL) advocate Kyle Wagner to delve into the transformative power of PBL in creating student-centered environments. Kyle shares his journey from visiting innovative schools like High Tech High to becoming a global ambassador for PBL. They discuss how these educational models foster creativity, agency, and purpose among students, and explore the broader implications for education systems worldwide. Whether you’re an educator, administrator, or parent, this episode provides valuable insights into how project-based learning can reshape the future of education. Tune in to learn about Kyle's new book, "Where's the Teacher? 12 Shifts for Student-Centered Environments," and discover strategies for implementing PBL in your own educational context. Outline (00:00) Introduction to Project-Based Learning (02:20) The Magic of High Tech High (07:52) Transition to International Education (14:15) Exploring the Global Stage (33:49) The Future of Project-Based Learning Links by Kyle Wagner
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Town Hall: Back to School with AI
09/04/2024
Town Hall: Back to School with AI
This town hall discussion focuses on the integration of artificial intelligence (AI) into the education system, particularly in K-12 settings. Nate McClennen leads this riveting conversation with featured speakers such as Wes Kriesel, Kunal Dalal, and Jerry Almendarez. Listen in as the discuss the growing use of AI tools among students and educators, highlighting the importance of understanding AI’s role in education. The speakers discuss various aspects of AI, including its potential to augment human intelligence and the need to focus on uniquely human competencies in the face of technological advancements. They also emphasize the significance of student agency, with examples of student-led initiatives and feedback sessions that reveal how young learners are already engaging with AI in innovative ways. The episode underscores the necessity for educators and administrators to stay informed and actively participate in the ongoing dialogue about AI to ensure its effective and equitable implementation in schools.
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Rachel Davison Humphries on the Bill of Rights Institute and the Importance of Civics Projects
08/28/2024
Rachel Davison Humphries on the Bill of Rights Institute and the Importance of Civics Projects
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Rachel Davison Humphries, Senior Director of Civic Learning Initiative at the Bill of Rights Institute. They explore the urgent need for robust civics education amidst a rapidly evolving socio-political landscape. Rachel emphasizes the role of civics in strengthening community ties and fostering democratic dispositions in students. The conversation also explores innovative ways to integrate civics across curricula, the state of civics education, and the invaluable resources provided by the Bill of Rights Institute to support teachers. This episode is a must-listen for educators, administrators, and anyone passionate about preparing students for active and informed citizenship! Outline Introduction to civics education The State of Civics Education Integrating Civics Across the Curriculum The Role of the Bill of Rights Institute Advice for Civics Teachers Links:
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Betsy Revell and Marie Mackintosh on EmployIndy and Modern Apprenticeships
08/21/2024
Betsy Revell and Marie Mackintosh on EmployIndy and Modern Apprenticeships
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Betsy Revell, Senior Vice President of Career Connected Learning, and Marie Mackintosh, President and CEO of EmployIndy. They discuss the organization's efforts to provide Indianapolis students with access to tech apprenticeships through initiatives like Accelerate Ed, supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Outline Introduction and Overview EmployIndy's Role and Partnerships Accelerate Ed and Equitable Pathways Pathways in IT and Cybersecurity Student Experiences and Community Impact Links
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Lisa Gevelber on Grow with Google, Career Certificates and Artificial Intelligence
08/14/2024
Lisa Gevelber on Grow with Google, Career Certificates and Artificial Intelligence
In this episode of the Getting Smart podcast, Tom Vander Ark speaks with Lisa Gevelber, Vice President at Google and founder of Grow with Google. They discuss the transformative impact of Grow with Google, a program designed to provide alternative career pathways through online certificates in high-demand fields. The conversation also delves into the integration of artificial intelligence (AI) in education. Lisa discusses the launch of the Google Gen AI for Educators course, developed in partnership with MIT. This free, online professional development course aims to help teachers understand and effectively use AI tools in their classrooms. The course covers practical applications of AI, such as customizing lesson plans and creating assessments, while also addressing responsible AI usage. Outline Introduction and Overview Creating Alternative Pathways Structure and Impact of Career Certificates Skills-Based Hiring and AI Integration AI Literacy and Future Directions Links
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Sonoma County’s Approach to CTE and Pathways
08/07/2024
Sonoma County’s Approach to CTE and Pathways
In this episode of the Getting Smart podcast, Shawnee Caruthers speaks with Kathy Goodacre, Principal Gabe Oliveira, and Vice Principal Erika Raffo about the transformative work happening in Sonoma County through the CTE Foundation and its partnership with Elsie Allen High School. Kathy discusses the foundation’s mission to invest in and expand career technical education (CTE) programs across the county, emphasizing the importance of connecting classroom learning to real-world applications and high-demand careers. The CTE Foundation of Sonoma County is a critical part of the Sonoma County California cohort, supported by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Accelerate ED is built on the idea that high schools can provide early access to quality higher education in ways that incorporate work-connected learning and have long-term benefits for students. This initiative helps state-based groups plan and build accelerated pathways between K-12 education, postsecondary education, and careers. Outline Links
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Todd Smith and Stacey Ocander on Pathways Strategies to Address the Healthcare Workforce Shortage in Nebraska and Beyond
07/31/2024
Todd Smith and Stacey Ocander on Pathways Strategies to Address the Healthcare Workforce Shortage in Nebraska and Beyond
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we’re joined by Todd Smith, and and CEO of , and Stacey Ocander, Senior Director of Workforce and Education Initiatives at to discuss their collaborative efforts to address the healthcare workforce crisis in Nebraska. Stacey discusses the innovative statewide curriculum she developed for third to fifth graders, which introduces students to various healthcare professions through active learning and partnerships with local hospitals and nursing homes. This program aims to spark early interest in healthcare careers and create a seamless educational pathway from elementary school through undergrad. The curriculum includes practical, hands-on experiences such as doing buckle swabs and examining cells under a microscope, making healthcare professions accessible and engaging for young students. Outline Introduction to Health Science Pathways Nebraska Hospital Association's Role Addressing the Workforce Crisis Creating Health Science Pathways Expanding Opportunities and Future Vision Links
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Conrad Wolfram on Computational Thinking and Revolutionizing Math Education
07/24/2024
Conrad Wolfram on Computational Thinking and Revolutionizing Math Education
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark talks to Conrad Wolfram, CEO of Wolfram Research and author of The Math Fix, to discuss the evolving role of computational thinking in education. They explore how the surge in computational power and AI can transform math education by moving away from manual calculations and focusing on real-world problem-solving. Conrad Wolfram shares insights on the necessity of integrating computational tools into the curriculum, emphasizing that modern education should prepare students for complex problem-solving using AI and natural language interfaces. They also discuss the challenges and opportunities in updating math education to reflect these advancements, aiming to equip students with skills relevant to today's tech-driven world. Outline The Evolution of Human-Computer Interaction The Role of Natural Language in AI Revolutionizing Math Education Future of Computational Thinking in Education Links by Conrad Wolfram
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Candy Van Buskirk on Learn Outside and Disrupting the Status Quo in Education
07/17/2024
Candy Van Buskirk on Learn Outside and Disrupting the Status Quo in Education
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark talks to Dr. Candy Van Buskirk, Assistant Superintendent of the Career Academy Network in South Bend, Indiana, to discuss her new book, 'Learn Outside. They talk about the innovative educational strategies at Career Academy Network and the goals of the new pathways campaign aiming to link students to economic mobility, focusing on experiential learning through career academies. Outline Career Academy Network: Origin and Vision Experiential Learning and Dual Enrollment Insights from Leading Educational Models Concluding Thoughts and Future Direction Links
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Jean-Claude Brizard on a Career of Transformation and the League of Innovative Schools
07/10/2024
Jean-Claude Brizard on a Career of Transformation and the League of Innovative Schools
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark talks with Jean-Claude Brizard, CEO of Digital Promise They talk about the organization's unique congressional mandate and its role in educational innovation. They explain how Digital Promise has exceptional access to U.S. government agencies, enhancing its impact on educational policy and practice. Brizard discusses the power networks like the League of Innovative Schools have in credentialing and micro-credentials for teachers, and the concept of 'powerful learning' that includes student agency and advanced pedagogies. They explore inclusive innovation processes that integrate voices from all community stakeholders, and reflect on Brizard’s past work on transforming New York City's high schools. This conversation highlights Digital Promise’s commitment to advancing education through research, technology, and innovative practices. Outline Jean-Claude Brizard's Journey Transforming New York City Schools Innovative Networks and Powerful Learning Future of Credentialing and Inclusive Innovation Links
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Shane Doyle on Place and Story
06/28/2024
Shane Doyle on Place and Story
This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is part of a new short monthly series where Mason Pashia is joined by Dr. Jason Cummins, and a friend of the podcast, to speak with indigenous leaders and academics to discuss how indigenous ways of knowing and leading can, and should, shape the education system. On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, hosts Mason Pashia and Dr. Jason Cummins are joined by Dr. Shane Doyle, an Indigenous educator and researcher. Dr. Doyle shares his educational background and work in implementing Indian Education for All in Montana. The discussion covers the importance of teaching the deep history of indigenous lands, the role of storytelling in education, and integrating indigenous wisdom in modern land management. Dr. Doyle also talks about the benefits of outdoor activities and the need for a comprehensive curriculum that includes Native American perspectives. Outline Introduction to the Podcast and Hosts Collaborative Education and Indigenous Knowledge The Importance of Place and History in Education Closing Thoughts and Reflections Links:
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Chris Coxon and Ryan Franklin on Opportunities and Equity with P-TECH
06/26/2024
Chris Coxon and Ryan Franklin on Opportunities and Equity with P-TECH
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we’re joined by two members of the team: Chris Coxon, Managing Director of Programs; and Ryan Franklin, Senior Director, Policy & Advocacy. Educate Texas has been in a leadership role in college and career readiness school models for over two decades, and has been the lead intermediary supporting the successful growth of both the Early College High School and P-TECH school models. Outline: Overview of Educate Texas and Its Initiatives Challenges and Strategies in Policy Implementation Funding, Policy, and Sustainability Advice and Conclusion Links:
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Dr. Gholnecsar Muhammad on Joy within Education
06/19/2024
Dr. Gholnecsar Muhammad on Joy within Education
This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is sponsored by Mrs. Wordsmith, learn more at and save 15% on your order by entering discount code GETTINGSMART15 at checkout, (edited) On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Dr. Gholnecsar Muhammad. You might know her as Gholdy. Dr. Muhammad is an associate professor of curriculum and instruction at the University of Illinois Chicago. She is the author of the essential 2020 book “Cultivating Genius: An Equity Framework for Culturally and Historically Responsive Literacy,” and the 2023 book, “Unearthing Joy: A Guide to Culturally and Historically Responsive Curriculum and Instruction.” Outline Introduction to Joy in Education The Power of Poetry and Freedom Implementing Joy in the Curriculum Links
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Melissa Byrne on Connecting a Learner Profile to Pathways and Postsecondary Workforce Readiness.
06/12/2024
Melissa Byrne on Connecting a Learner Profile to Pathways and Postsecondary Workforce Readiness.
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Victoria Andrews is joined by Melissa Byrne, Assistant Superintendent of Teaching & Learning at Barrington Community 220 School District in Illinois. We visited Barrington High School a few weeks ago with a team of principals from the Kansas City area. Melissa shared Barrinton’s Learner Profile, Pathways implementation, and Gem program that allows students to self-select competencies for a project. Links:
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Jennifer Brandsberg-Engelmann on Teaching and Updating Economics in High School
06/07/2024
Jennifer Brandsberg-Engelmann on Teaching and Updating Economics in High School
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia is joined by Jennifer Brandsberg-Engelmann to discuss a new approach to teaching economics and why it is critical to teach economics to K-12 students as a way of understanding the world. Links
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