Getting Smart Podcast
This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership. Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.
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How Can Learning Ecosystems Change Educational Opportunities in Michigan? | Monique Uzelac
06/13/2025
How Can Learning Ecosystems Change Educational Opportunities in Michigan? | Monique Uzelac
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Monique Uzelac, the Executive Director of the Washtenaw Educational Options Consortium in Michigan explore the innovative approach to educational choice within the consortium, discussing how it offers diverse programs like competency-based learning and early college opportunities. Monique shares insights into the consortium's collaborative efforts with multiple districts to enhance student outcomes and meet varied educational needs. The discussion also delves into the challenges and successes of maintaining a nimble yet established educational model, the significance of belonging and relationships amidst technological advancements, and future visions for expanding career and technology education. This episode is a deep dive into how learning ecosystems can provide students with personalized, relevant educational experiences, ensuring every learner's success. Outline Links
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How Can Schools Be Transformed By Joy? | George Philhower
06/11/2025
How Can Schools Be Transformed By Joy? | George Philhower
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers has a vibrant conversation with Superintendent Dr. George Philhower to explore how joy, alongside connection, growth, and success, forms the core of their educational commitments. Learn about their innovative initiatives, like the Joy Integration Specialist role and Joy Jam conference, which transform learning experiences by fostering genuine curiosity and purpose. Join us to see how these efforts are not just enhancing academic engagement but also preparing students for real-world challenges with confidence and credentials. Whether you're an educator, parent, or community leader, this episode offers valuable insights into creating a thriving, joyful learning environment. Tune in now and be inspired by a district daring to ask, "What if joy came first?" Outline Links
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Catching Up! | An AI Research and Leadership Framework, Humanities 2.0, and Incentivizes that Fuel Communities of Learning
06/06/2025
Catching Up! | An AI Research and Leadership Framework, Humanities 2.0, and Incentivizes that Fuel Communities of Learning
In this episode of Catching Up, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia explore the evolving landscape of education with a focus on AI leadership, applied humanities, and innovative learning spaces. They dive into key topics such as the role of AI in transforming educational practices, the shift towards applied humanities in higher education, and the potential of community spaces in schools to enhance learning experiences. With insights from recent developments and thoughtful discussions, this episode offers valuable perspectives for educators, administrators, and policymakers looking to navigate the future of education. Tune in to discover how these emerging trends are shaping new pathways for learners and educators alike. Outline Links
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How Can we Unlock The True Potential Of School Assessments? | BB Ntsakey & Kelly Niccolls
06/04/2025
How Can we Unlock The True Potential Of School Assessments? | BB Ntsakey & Kelly Niccolls
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Victoria Andrews sits down with educational leaders BB Ntsakey and Kelly Niccolls to explore the transformative power of liberatory assessment. Discover how these innovative approaches move beyond traditional metrics to create personalized, student-centered learning experiences that emphasize growth and empowerment. By reimagining assessment as a tool for learning and liberation, educators can foster environments where students' unique strengths and potential are recognized and nurtured. Tune in to learn how you can implement these practices in your own educational context and the positive impact they can have on student engagement and achievement. Outline Links
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Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Sustainability
05/28/2025
Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Sustainability
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, hosts Jordan Luster and Victoria Andrews delve into the critical aspects of sustainability within the microschool movement. They are joined by insightful leaders like Amar Kumar and Andrew Lee, who share their expertise on maintaining financial health, ensuring leadership succession, and prioritizing equity in education. Through candid discussions, the episode highlights how microschools, with their innovative and decentralized models, navigate challenges like budgeting, tuition setting, and creating inclusive environments. It’s a conversation not only about numbers but about sustaining passion and impact in education. Tune in to explore how these small-scale schools are making significant strides in shaping the future of learning. Outline (00:00) Introduction to the Getting Smart Podcast (02:55) Insights from School Leaders (09:42) Challenges and Future of Micro Schools (15:38) Teacher Compensation and ESA's Links
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What is Human Work in the Age of Smart Machines? | Jamie Merisotis
05/21/2025
What is Human Work in the Age of Smart Machines? | Jamie Merisotis
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Jamie Merisotis, CEO of the Lumina Foundation, about the evolving landscape of work and education in the age of artificial intelligence. As industries rapidly adopt AI technologies, Jamie shares insights on how human work is transforming and the crucial role of credentialing in ensuring economic prosperity. The conversation highlights the importance of redefining educational goals to include not only degrees but also valuable credentials that align with the demands of the modern workforce. Tune in to explore how AI is reshaping professions, why empathy and human skills remain essential, and how Lumina Foundation's ambitious goal aims to have 75% of the U.S. workforce equipped with meaningful credentials by 2040. This episode is a must-listen for educators, policymakers, and anyone interested in the future of work and education. Outline Links:
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Is Deeper Learning the Answer Uncertainty in the Age of AI? | Michael Fullan
05/14/2025
Is Deeper Learning the Answer Uncertainty in the Age of AI? | Michael Fullan
In this enlightening episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark and Dr. Kaleb Rashad engage in a thought-provoking dialogue with Dr. Michael Fullan, an internationally acclaimed advocate for deeper learning. Together, they explore whether deeper learning is the key to addressing the challenges and opportunities presented by the new age of AI. Dr. Fullan introduces the concept of "systemness," emphasizing the need for systemic change over isolated educational initiatives. The conversation covers the transformative progress in Anaheim, driven by the integration of systemness and the five Cs of compassionate learning. Tune in to discover how AI can be a powerful accelerator for education when underpinned by a strong pedagogical and cultural foundation, and what it means to cultivate spirit work in learning environments. This episode is a must-listen for educators, administrators, and anyone interested in the future of education and AI's role in it. Outline Links Michael's Books Mentioned In This Episode
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Catching Up! | Curation, Vibe Coding and New Priorities for Education
05/09/2025
Catching Up! | Curation, Vibe Coding and New Priorities for Education
In this episode of "Catching Up!", Mason and Nate dive into a vibrant discussion on the evolving landscape of education, focusing on how vibe coding, curiosity, and judgment are poised to redefine learning priorities. They explore the shifting dynamics of computer science education in the age of AI and highlight the importance of fostering experience-based learning opportunities across diverse educational geographies. From the intriguing concept of "Italian brain rot" to the challenges of expanding CTE programs in rural areas, this episode covers an array of thought-provoking topics. The hosts also discuss the role of curation in both digital and physical spaces, emphasizing its growing significance in the modern world. Tune in to discover insights and strategies for preparing students for a future where curiosity and creativity drive learning and innovation. Join Mason and Nate as they catch up on these exciting developments and share their vision for fostering collaborative and innovative learning environments. Editor's note: In this episode, Mason wrongly refers to "the AI shark with sneakers" as Bombaleo Bambala... it is actually Tralalero Tralala. Appologies to Tralalero. Outline Links
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What Does Rethinking Assessment Look Like? | One Stone
05/07/2025
What Does Rethinking Assessment Look Like? | One Stone
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we delve into the transformative assessment practices of One Stone, a unique high school that prioritizes student agency and real-world skills. Host Victoria Andrews engages in an enlightening conversation with Celeste Bolin, Executive Director of One Stone, and students Sophie Gunther and Raya Naymik. They discuss the school's innovative approach to assessments, which emphasizes resilience, leadership, and the ability to "fail forward." By integrating students' diverse interests and lived experiences into the learning process, One Stone fosters a supportive environment where effort and growth are valued over traditional grading metrics. This episode offers valuable insights for educators, school leaders, and anyone interested in creating more human-centered, dynamic educational experiences. Outline Links
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Getting Smart and Carlos Moreno: Live from SXSW
05/02/2025
Getting Smart and Carlos Moreno: Live from SXSW
Join Shawnee Caruthers and Carlos Moreno in an enlightening conversation on the Getting Smart Podcast as they delve into the transformative power of leading with love, care, and vulnerability in education. This episode, recorded live at South by Southwest, explores the theme of Humanizing Pathways Leadership. Carlos Moreno, co-director of Big Picture Learning, shares his insights and experiences in empowering students and communities. With heartfelt stories and thought-provoking discussions on emotional intelligence and leadership, this episode is a must-listen for educators, leaders, and anyone passionate about creating impactful educational pathways. Discover how embracing emotional intelligence and community-focused leadership can redefine success in education. Tune in to learn more about how we can all contribute to a more inclusive and supportive learning environment. Outline
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What are The Key Competencies of a Modern Day Leader? | Laura Hilger, Carmen Coleman and Estrada
04/30/2025
What are The Key Competencies of a Modern Day Leader? | Laura Hilger, Carmen Coleman and Estrada
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Rebecca Midles delves into the essential competencies of modern-day leadership with Laura Hilger, Senior Director of Teaching and Learning at KnowledgeWorks. Joined by Carmen Coleman and Estrada, the conversation explores the development and impact of the Lead for Learners Network and the Portrait of a Leader. These initiatives aim to guide educational leaders towards sustainable change through personalized, competency-based learning. Discover how collaborative processes and strategic leadership development can drive transformation in educational systems, ensuring leaders are equipped to foster equitable, learner-centered environments. Tune in to learn about upcoming opportunities and insights into building robust leadership pipelines. Outline Links
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Catching Up! | Shifting Enrollment, Dead Malls, and Community Hubs
04/25/2025
Catching Up! | Shifting Enrollment, Dead Malls, and Community Hubs
In this episode of "Catching Up!", hosts Mason and Nate dive into a lively discussion on the future of education, exploring how learning spaces, AI readiness, and global innovations are reshaping the landscape. From the creative redevelopment of community hubs in former malls to the pressing need for media literacy amidst a wave of information overload, this conversation covers a range of critical topics. They touch on the potential impacts of a new executive order on AI in education and the challenges facing early education systems. With insights from recent trips and conferences, including a poetic cultural journey through Ireland, this episode is packed with thoughtful reflections and forward-thinking ideas on how to best prepare students for an AI-driven world. Join Mason and Nate as they catch up on these exciting developments and share their vision for fostering collaborative and innovative learning environments. Outline Links
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Who needs college anymore? | Kathleen DeLaski
04/23/2025
Who needs college anymore? | Kathleen DeLaski
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Kathleen deLaski, author of "Who Needs College Anymore?" to explore the ever-evolving landscape of higher education. DeLaski challenges traditional views on college education, delving into how the rise of alternative pathways like apprenticeships and dual enrollment are reshaping post-secondary education. They discuss the implications of the Great Recession, the impact of AI, and the role of experience as the new "silver bullet" in career advancement. Tune in to discover why the four-year degree might not be the only or best option for today's learners and how these changes are influencing the future of work and education. Outline (00:00) Introduction: Who Needs College Anymore? (02:34) The Changing Perception of Higher Education (04:27) The Great Recession's Impact on College Value (07:21) Is College for All Dead? (09:25) Who Needs College? Exploring Different Personas (14:17) The Rise and Fall of Bootcamps and MOOCs (20:45) The Future of Apprenticeships (24:03) The Step Ladder Approach to Higher Education (28:43) AI and the Future of Higher Education Links
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How Should we Confront Complexity in Uncertain Times?
04/18/2025
How Should we Confront Complexity in Uncertain Times?
On the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia engages with Will Richardson, co-founder of The Big Questions Institute, to explore the evolving role of education in the face of global complexity and potential collapse. Richardson shares insights from his new manifesto, emphasizing the importance of repairing human and ecological relationships as a core educational mission. Together, they delve into the necessity of preparing students emotionally, physically, and spiritually to navigate an increasingly chaotic world. By focusing on adaptive change, curiosity, and the beauty of interconnectedness, this conversation challenges traditional schooling narratives and invites educators to rethink the skills and dispositions needed for the future. Tune in to discover how schools can become beacons of hope and resilience in uncertain times. Outline Links
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How Important is Research and Development for Education? | Sara Schapiro
04/16/2025
How Important is Research and Development for Education? | Sara Schapiro
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Sara Schapiro, the director of the Alliance for Learning Innovation. Together, they explore the critical need for enhanced research and development (R&D) within the education sector—an area historically underfunded compared to other industries like healthcare. The discussion delves into the unique challenges and opportunities of education R&D, highlighting the importance of both federal and state-level support in developing interoperable data systems that drive innovation. Sara emphasizes the essential role of venture capital and design research in shaping the future of EdTech, while also stressing the importance of evidence-based practices in schools. This episode serves as a call to action for educators, policymakers, and parents to collaboratively advocate for stronger R&D infrastructure, ensuring that every student benefits from cutting-edge educational strategies. Don't miss this deep dive into the future of education innovation and the pathways to achieving it. Outline Links ALI (Interoperability)
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Catching Up! | Exploring Learning Spaces, AI Readiness, and Global Education Innovations
04/11/2025
Catching Up! | Exploring Learning Spaces, AI Readiness, and Global Education Innovations
In this episode of "Catching Up!", join Mason Pashia and Nate McClennen as they explore the intersection of learning spaces, AI readiness, and global education innovations. Discover how AI-assisted teams outperform conventional groups and what New Zealand's competency-based education system can teach us about learner records. Delve into the role of technology adoption inspired by the Amish and how this shapes community values. Whether you're an educator, policymaker, or lifelong learner, this episode offers insights into the evolving landscape of education and the future of learning ecosystems. Outline Links
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How Can Relational Intelligence Transform Education in Our Tech Based World? | Isabelle Hau
04/09/2025
How Can Relational Intelligence Transform Education in Our Tech Based World? | Isabelle Hau
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Jordan Luster explores the transformative potential of relational intelligence in education with Isabelle Hau, Executive Director of the Stanford Accelerator for Learning and author of “.” Together, they explore the concept of relational intelligence (RQ) and its importance in shaping relationship-centered learning environments. Isabelle shares insights on how fostering strong emotional connections can enhance learning experiences, emphasizing that love and relationships are foundational to education. The conversation further examines how microschools and community-centered models can be effective solutions to the relational crisis in education, offering personalized and meaningful learning experiences. Isabelle also highlights the role of technology, advocating for “relationally responsible tech” that supports human connections. This episode is a must-listen for educators and leaders seeking to integrate deeper emotional and social learning elements into their educational practices. Links
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What If the Era of AI is Really the Era of Youth Entrepreneurship? | Don Wettrick
04/02/2025
What If the Era of AI is Really the Era of Youth Entrepreneurship? | Don Wettrick
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark chats with Don Wettrick, CEO of the StartEdUp Foundation, to explore the future of entrepreneurship education. Don Wettrick talks about how the foundation is transforming high school students into proactive problem-solvers and innovators through initiatives like the Innovate Within pitch competition. This program empowers young minds by encouraging them to tackle real-world problems, leveraging tools like AI to enhance opportunity recognition, design thinking, and impactful execution. Wettrick gets into the importance of embedding entrepreneurship as a universal skill set that can be applied across various careers, enabling students to develop an entrepreneurial mindset that extends beyond just starting businesses. Outline Links
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From Getting Smart: Catching Up! | Abundance, Learning Experiences, and What's in Your Learner Wallet?
03/28/2025
From Getting Smart: Catching Up! | Abundance, Learning Experiences, and What's in Your Learner Wallet?
In this episode of “Catching Up,” Mason Pashia and Nate McClennen dive into the endless potential of AI across various sectors, with a focus on education and music. They explore the implications of AI-generated music, the concept of unbundling education to expand learning ecosystems, and the emerging importance of digital credentials and learner records. The discussion also highlights a new framework for school redesign, emphasizing real-world experiences and adaptability in a changing labor market. They further delve into the concept of abundance, inspired by recent literature, and its application to educational innovation. The episode concludes with a reflection on the enduring value of human connections and creativity in an increasingly digital world. Tune in to explore how these themes are reshaping the landscape of learning and work.
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What does a Community-Connected Career Readiness Program Look Like? | A Case Study with YouScience
03/26/2025
What does a Community-Connected Career Readiness Program Look Like? | A Case Study with YouScience
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia and his guests talk about how YouScience is transforming career navigation for students and educators. Joined by an achieved panel of guests, including Peter Van Mondfrans from YouScience, Kaitlyn Tyler from the Greater Springfield Partnership, Christina Walters of Knight Dispatch, and Jamison Truebenbach from the Global Impact STEM Academy, the discussion explores the dynamic intersection of education, workforce development, and technology. They go in-depth on YouScience's unique approach to identifying student aptitudes and matching them with career opportunities, the critical role of local partnerships in retaining talent, and the transformative impact of real-world learning experiences. Tune in to learn how this collaborative effort is equipping students with the tools, confidence, and language to thrive in the evolving job market, while fostering a stronger connection between education and industry. Outline Links Book:
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How might we transform the college application journey? | Tiffany Green on Uprooted Academy
03/19/2025
How might we transform the college application journey? | Tiffany Green on Uprooted Academy
In the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Victoria Andrews engages in an enlightening conversation with Tiffany Green, the visionary founder of Uprooted Academy. This innovative platform is designed to transform the college application journey for young students by incorporating holistic elements such as financial literacy, wellness, and community engagement. Tiffany shares her personal experiences and insights, revealing how Uprooted Academy is not just about getting students to college but ensuring they thrive through comprehensive support that tackles often-overlooked areas like mental health and family involvement. By employing technology and AI, Uprooted Academy personalizes the college preparation process, making it more accessible and equitable for underrepresented communities. Tiffany discusses the systemic challenges faced by students in navigating the complex college application landscape and how Uprooted Academy addresses these issues through a community-centric approach. The platform's unique features, like the AI assistant Rudy, provide students with tailored guidance, helping them manage stress and build a support network. With a mission to redefine educational equity, Uprooted Academy equips students, families, and educators with the tools and knowledge needed for long-term success. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in leveraging technology and community resources to close educational gaps and empower the next generation of learners. Outline Links: David Brooks -
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The Students Know Best, Can Education Learn from Community? | Aylon Samouha
03/05/2025
The Students Know Best, Can Education Learn from Community? | Aylon Samouha
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Rebecca Midles sits down with Aylon Samouha, the CEO of Transcend and a visionary in education reform. They delve into the concept of The Third Way, an approach that blends community insights with proven educational practices to create lasting change in schools. Aylon shares his insights from years of experience in the field, discussing the limitations of traditional top-down reforms and the challenges faced by grassroots efforts. Together, they explore the importance of truly listening to students and communities to design learning environments that meet today's needs. The conversation is a thoughtful journey through the complexities and possibilities of transforming education, emphasizing the power of student-centered learning and community-based design. Outline Links
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How bad is the "Disengagement Crisis"? | Jenny Anderson and Rebecca Winthrop
02/26/2025
How bad is the "Disengagement Crisis"? | Jenny Anderson and Rebecca Winthrop
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Nate McClennen explores the topic of teen engagement with guests Jenny Anderson and Rebecca Winthrop, authors of "The Disengaged Teen." They delve into the four modes of learning—passenger, achiever, resistor, and explorer—offering insights on how students move between these modes. The conversation emphasizes the importance of agency and engagement in education, providing practical strategies for parents and educators to help students thrive. By focusing on nurturing student curiosity and agency, the discussion highlights how both parents and teachers can make a difference in fostering a love for learning. This episode offers valuable perspectives on how to address disengagement and create more engaging learning environments for teens. Outline Links
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What if all students had a menu of pathways options in high school? | Dr. Lazaro Lopez and Students from District 214
02/19/2025
What if all students had a menu of pathways options in high school? | Dr. Lazaro Lopez and Students from District 214
Welcome to the Getting Smart Podcast, in today's episode, we dive into the innovative initiatives of District 214, a leader in creating personalized, real-world learning experiences for students. Supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, District 214 is part of the Illinois Accelerate Ed cohort, focusing on bridging K-12 education with postsecondary opportunities and careers. Join us as we speak with Dr. Lazaro Lopez, Associate Superintendent, and inspiring students Ayana and Georgie, who share their unique paths in healthcare and engineering. Discover how these learners are navigating their futures with confidence and purpose in an ever-evolving world. Outline Links:
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Are you "hiring" your dream job? | Michael Horn
02/12/2025
Are you "hiring" your dream job? | Michael Horn
In this episode, Mason Pashia is joined by Michael Horn to discuss his new book, "Job Moves: Nine Steps for Making Progress in Your Career." They explore the jobs-to-be-done theory and how it applies to career choices, highlighting the iterative process of career pathways. Michael shares insights on hiring your job, storytelling in career development, and the role of experiences in credentialing. Outline (00:00) Introduction to the Getting Smart Podcast (02:09) Michael Horn's Career Journey (04:08) Understanding Career Prototypes (07:13) The Role of Storytelling in Careers (20:02) Advice for High School Students and Educators (22:34) Future of Job Market and AI Links
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What if the Gap Year Was Actually a Launch Year? | Abby Falik
02/05/2025
What if the Gap Year Was Actually a Launch Year? | Abby Falik
Mark your calendars for SXSW EDU March 3-6, 2025 in Austin, Texas, and register now at . Let’s work together to shape the future of education—one idea at a time. In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark interviews Abby Falik, founder of The Flight School, a transformative educational initiative aimed at high school graduates. The Flight School offers an innovative "launch year," encouraging young adults to step beyond traditional educational paths, explore personal passions, and engage in aligned work that addresses world needs. The program emphasizes experiential learning, global immersion, and self-discovery, distinguishing itself from the typical gap year by fostering skills such as resilience, empathy, and agency. During the conversation, Falik articulates the importance of redefining success and education in a rapidly evolving world, aiming to prepare a generation of leaders equipped to navigate and contribute to a future shaped by global challenges and opportunities. The Flight School’s model, designed for scalability, seeks to involve a million students by 2035, making the experience accessible to diverse youth worldwide. Falik invites listeners to support and participate in expanding this vision, highlighting the broader societal shift towards valuing personal and communal impact over conventional academic achievements. Outline (04:16) The Concept of a Launch Year (06:55) Components of the Flight School Program (14:25) Skills and Community Building (23:44) Scaling the Flight School Vision Links
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Profile of an Unbundled Learning Ecosystem: Arizona
01/31/2025
Profile of an Unbundled Learning Ecosystem: Arizona
In today's rapidly evolving educational landscape, Arizona is pioneering a transformative approach through unbundled learning. This model breaks down traditional educational silos, integrating K-12, higher education, and workforce readiness to equip students with the skills necessary for the 21st century. By leveraging partnerships with local businesses and educational institutions, initiatives like those led by ASU Prep and the Greater Phoenix Chamber are providing students with real-world learning experiences that extend beyond the classroom. These efforts not only enhance students' academic understanding but also prepare them for future career opportunities, ensuring they are both college and career ready. As Arizona continues to innovate, it serves as a model for other states aiming to reform educational pathways to meet the diverse needs of all learners. Outline Links
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Profile of an Unbundled Learning Ecosystem: Colorado
01/31/2025
Profile of an Unbundled Learning Ecosystem: Colorado
In Colorado, the unbundled learning movement is reshaping how education is delivered, bridging the gap between traditional schooling and real-world experiences. This initiative is driven by the need to provide students with relevant, career-connected learning opportunities that prepare them for future success. By integrating work-based learning, internships, and community projects, Colorado is fostering a learning ecosystem where students can earn credentials and develop skills directly applicable to the workforce. Organizations like Reschool Colorado, Jeffco Open School, and Colorado Succeeds are at the forefront, partnering with local businesses and communities to expand access to education beyond the classroom walls. This approach not only enhances student engagement but also builds a robust talent pipeline for the state's economy. However, overcoming legacy systems and ensuring equitable access remain significant challenges. Colorado's efforts exemplify how states can innovate to meet the demands of a rapidly evolving educational landscape. Outline Links Resources from ReSchool Colorado - resource to support people who want to co-design and co-create with communities that also includes sound clips sharing how RESCHOOL has used these resources and what it resulted in overtime - interactive game designed to build empathy for young adults navigating learning and life and to access and map resources, skills and experiences gained across a variety of settings within a competency-based learning framework. - search-based tool to find out-of-school learning providers aligned with a family's/child's interests, age, needs - family-facing resource to guide parents in making decisions with their children about schools and out-of-school experiences Resources from Colorado Succeeds
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Profile of an Unbundled Learning Ecosystem: New Hampshire
01/31/2025
Profile of an Unbundled Learning Ecosystem: New Hampshire
The podcast episode "New Hampshire Unbundled" explores how New Hampshire has become a leader in unbundled and competency-based learning, offering students personalized educational pathways that extend beyond traditional school environments. By embracing initiatives like the Virtual Learning Academy Charter School (VLACS) and Learn Everywhere, the state provides learners with opportunities to earn credits through real-world experiences, ranging from internships to independent projects, thus fostering a learning ecosystem that is adaptable to individual student needs and aspirations. The discussion highlights the importance of flexible learning models that prioritize student engagement and mastery over seat time, and it emphasizes the critical role of policy and technology in expanding access to diverse educational opportunities. Through these innovative approaches, New Hampshire is paving the way for a future-ready education system that prepares students for success in an ever-evolving world. Outline Links
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What Does it Take to Make a Great Microschool Leader? | Coi Morefield
01/29/2025
What Does it Take to Make a Great Microschool Leader? | Coi Morefield
In this engaging episode of the Getting Smart podcast, hosts Jordan Luster and Victoria Andrews dive into the world of micro schools with Coi Morefield, the innovative founder of the Lab School of Memphis. Morefield introduces Microschool Masters, a groundbreaking platform designed to address the unique challenges of microschool education by transforming teaching teams into exceptional educators and leaders. With a focus on adult learning, Morefield emphasizes the importance of mindset shifts and sustainable practices to retain educators and decrease costly turnover. The conversation highlights how microschools, with their small, personalized settings, require a distinct approach to teacher training and professional development compared to traditional models. Morefield shares how her platform is akin to MasterClass, offering high-quality, digestible courses that not only cover essential educational strategies but also critical areas like compliance and governance. This episode is a must-listen for those interested in the future of education and the transformative potential of microschools. Outline (00:00) Revolutionizing Education at SXSW EDU 2025 (01:06) Introduction to the Getting Smart Podcast (02:31) The Vision for Adult Learning in Micro Schools (03:50) Challenges and Solutions in Micro School Education (08:32) Building Community and Ensuring Compliance Links
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