The Green Flame
The Green Flame is a podcast that brings you revolutionary analysis, practical skills, and artistic expression from the grassroots movement to dismantle global industrial civilization.
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Wildlife Rescue with 'All That Breathes' Brothers Nadeem Shehzad and Muhammad Saud
08/02/2024
Wildlife Rescue with 'All That Breathes' Brothers Nadeem Shehzad and Muhammad Saud
The Wildlife Rescue was formed in 2010 to provide quality health care, often on an emergency basis, to native wildlife. Located in Delhi, India the NGO was founded by brothers Nadeem Shehzad and Muhammad Saud. This interview is a conversation with Nadeem and Saud. Their work was the focus of a 2022 documentary film, All That Breathes, which won Best Documentary at both the Sundance and Cannes film festivals (the first documentary to ever win both), and was nominated for the Academy Award for best documentary feature film. The film won at least 37 other major awards. On average, about 2,500 sick, injured and orphaned birds are treated and cared for annually by the Wildlife Rescue. The center is run by staff trained in emergency aid, with specialized avian veterinary care. The hospital treats a wide variety of injuries and illnesses that include broken bones, infections, diseases and malnutrition. It also cares for babies and juveniles that have been left orphaned. For whatever reason a bird is brought into the hospital, the aim of the center is to rehabilitate that bird back into the wild. Help raise funds for their work in India: Their website:
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Lake Superior at Risk with Protect the Porkies Founder Tom Grotewohl
07/01/2024
Lake Superior at Risk with Protect the Porkies Founder Tom Grotewohl
A massive copper mine is planned 100 feet from the edge of Lake Superior (and may actually mine underneath the lake), adjacent to "the most beautiful State Park in the country" in the Upper Peninsula (UP) of Michigan. Sound like a bad idea? It gets worse: Tom Grotewohl says this should be called a "toxic waste mine" because 98.55% of what is produced will be toxic waste, not copper. At stake is wolves, fish, forests, endangered species, and a full 10% of the freshwater on the surface of our planet. Tom is organizing with other individuals and allies to oppose this mine. To learn more, donate, and sign their petition, visit their website at:
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Strategy for the Eco-Revolution with Roger Hallam
05/29/2024
Strategy for the Eco-Revolution with Roger Hallam
Roger Hallam is the co-founder of Extinction Rebellion, Radical Routes, Burning Pink, and Just Stop Oil. On today's show, we discuss strategy for the climate and ecological movements, the role of mass street protests and public assemblies, violence vs. nonviolence, revolutions throughout history, the collapse of industrial civilization, the dangers of fascism, practical organizing tips, and more. While we don't agree with Roger on everything, we're always thrilled to discuss these topics with passionate and hardworking people. Roger's website is . The Green Flame podcast could use your support! JOIN the email list for the new confederation: DONATE to The Green Flame: Leaving us a positive review or rating helps us reach a larger audience. You can also share these shows with your friends. And finally, the goal of this show is to activate people. So if you really want to support this show, start organizing in your own community. Thank you again for listening.
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Episode 100 Live Show: Looking Back on 5 Years
05/06/2024
Episode 100 Live Show: Looking Back on 5 Years
For episode 100 of The Green Flame, we hosted a special live conversation between hosts Jennifer Murnan and Saba Malik, Saba Malik, Renee Gerlich, Carl Van Warmerdam, and Rebecca Wildbear. We announced that the show has separated from Deep Green Resistance, reflected on the origins of the Green Flame, discussed our favorite and most impactful episodes, and discussed our organizing projects. This episode is a celebration. JOIN the email list for the new confederation: DONATE to The Green Flame: READ Max's reflections on leaving DGR: Leaving us a positive review or rating helps us reach a larger audience. You can also share these shows with your friends. And finally, the goal of this show is to activate people. So if you really want to support this show, start organizing in your own community. Thank you again for listening.
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Listening to our Listeners and an Invitation to Episode 100
03/25/2024
Listening to our Listeners and an Invitation to Episode 100
Episode 99 is an interview with Carl Van Warmerdam. Carl delves into on the impact listening to the Ahjamu Umi Green Flame episode had on his life and activism. We asked Carl three primary questions: How has the GF informed and inspired you? What is your favorite episode? What would you like to hear more of on the GF? Please email with your written, audio or video recorded responses to these questions so we can include your reflections in our Episode 100! Live Event, April 14th 2024, 4 - 7 PM Pacific Time. You can find this live event on DGR's facebook and X accounts. As always, a BIG THANK YOU to you, our GF listeners.
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Tlingit Elder Wanda Culp and Joshua Wright - The Biggest Threat to the Alaskan Rainforest This Century
01/29/2024
Tlingit Elder Wanda Culp and Joshua Wright - The Biggest Threat to the Alaskan Rainforest This Century
The Tongass Rainforest in Southeast Alaska is the last great expanse of temperate old growth forest left in the United States, and it has been partially protected since the "Roadless Rule" halted most logging there in 2001. Now, the "biggest threat to the west coast rainforest this century" is here: Bill S.1889/H.R. 4748, which would permanently privatize 115,200 acres (including 60,000 acres of old-growth) of Tongass National Forest into the hands of Sealaska Corporation — which has already logged massive swathes of the region. This conversation with Tlingit elder and forest defender Wanda Culp and filmmaker and activist Joshua Wright — who has been on the show before to discuss Fairy Creek — dives into "indigi-washing," one of the divide and conquer strategies used defeat public opposition to the destruction of the land. Wanda and Joshua are looking for allies: organizations and individuals willing to fight this project and defend the Tongass. For more information, visit https://www.notongassprivatization.org/
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Dr. Nzingha Dalila | Black People for the Natural World
01/14/2024
Dr. Nzingha Dalila | Black People for the Natural World
Dr Nzinga Dalilia, Saba Malik, and Max Wilbert join in conversation offering their unique perspectives on trauma, trauma community, addiction, “environmental justice”, othering, the necessity of feeling safe in the process of seeing and being seen, healing spaces, falling back in love with ourselves and with all of life and coming into our individual and collective power in the process and much more. Watch for part two of this heartfelt compassionate and expansive exploration of Black People for the Natural World. Dr. Dalila's book can be found here: https://nzinghadalila.gumroad.com/l/nxrbq
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Non-Violent Direct Action Strategy and the 2023 Attack on Radical Feminists in Portland
01/06/2024
Non-Violent Direct Action Strategy and the 2023 Attack on Radical Feminists in Portland
Before listening to this episode, stop. For the first time Lierre Keith’s presentation on non-violent direct action is publicly available! Go here and absorb this information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMk1eltyuek Next, listen this GF episode, Lierre’s account of ten courageous women's experiences as they organized and practiced NVDA brilliantly in November 2023 in Portland, Oregon. Here’s the link to listen to the women’s speeches that the mob failed to silence: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgCCULqQ1mqE7kDS3JOS7H6ZQeUjAhpkg
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Defending Palawan Island, the Philippines Last Ecological Frontier with PNNI founder Attny Bobby Chan
12/14/2023
Defending Palawan Island, the Philippines Last Ecological Frontier with PNNI founder Attny Bobby Chan
Attny Bobby Chan graces us with an introduction to the deep social justice and spiritual roots of PNNI (Palawan NGO Network Inc) founded in 1991. PNNI organizes communities through consensus. They use advocacy, civilian enforcement and increasingly are seeking legal measures to protect and defend the Palawan paradise. To learn more and support this work go to https://www.pnni.org/
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Water Protector and Dakota Access Pipeline DAPL Saboteur Jessica Reznicek
11/15/2023
Water Protector and Dakota Access Pipeline DAPL Saboteur Jessica Reznicek
Jessica Reznicek is a 40-year-old land and water defender who has worked with and lived in the Des Moines Catholic Worker Community. After being charged with a "terrorism enhancement," she was sentenced to 8 years in 2021 for taking action to protect the water along the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) route by disabling construction machinery during the Standing Rock uprising. No one was injured by Jessica and her fellow Catholic Worker’s actions, and the land was protected from the flow of oil for an additional six months. On this episode, we share an update on her legal case, and encourage our listeners to support her team and consider writing to her. More information can be found at . The Green Flame is honored to rebroadcast our interview with Jessica in the second part of this show. We conducted an interview with Jessica and Ruby Montoya on July 26th, 2017 — after they had admitted publicly to sabotaging the pipeline but before they had been arrested or charged with these crimes. The two activists set fire to heavy machinery and used blow torches to damage the oil pipeline and valves in an effort to decisively halt the project. While the DAPL was ultimately finished, their actions singlehandedly delayed construction for weeks or months.
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Ecology of Spirit: Biocentrism, Animism, and the Environmental Crisis
10/14/2023
Ecology of Spirit: Biocentrism, Animism, and the Environmental Crisis
Species extinction. Plastic pollution. Global warming. Catastrophic floods. Raging fires. The failure of coral reefs. Whales dying en masse. Forever chemicals contaminating mothers' breast milk. Our planet is in crisis. And while the wealthy and governments pour trillions into technological so-called “solutions,” things are spiraling out of control. What if solving the ecological crisis depended on falling in love with the natural world, and acting to defend those we love? What if a biocentric worldview — one which places the natural world at the center of our morality — could help us access the courage needed to stop the destruction? On October 21st, join us for special 3-hour live streaming event: Ecology of Spirit: Biocentrism, Animism, and the Environmental Crisis — "the spirituality of the front lines." This event will explore the connectedness of all life and focus on organized resistance to the destruction of the planet. Donate and watch here: RSVP on Facebook: The event begins at 1pm Pacific Time / 20:00 UTC, and will feature speakers including: - First Voices Radio host Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Cheyenne River Lakota) - Rainforest conservationist Suprabha Seshan - Author Derrick Jensen - Filmmaker and activist Keala Kelly (Kanaka Oiwi) - Writer and activist Lierre Keith - Mik'maq warrior Sakej Ward - Poet Will Falk - Animas Institute guide Rebecca Wildbear - Organizer Max Wilbert - Former Buddhist monk Alan Clements - and other special guests. There will be opportunities to ask questions and participate in dialogue. The mainstream environmental movement is mostly funded by foundations which don't support revolutionary change. Radical organizations like Deep Green Resistance rely on individual donors to support our activism around the world, which is why “Ecology of Spirit” is also a fundraiser. We're outnumbered and we need your help. There is a path out of the this crisis, and DGR is one of the organizations leading the way. But we can't do it without you. We’re raising funds to support global community organizing, fund mutual aid and direct action campaigns, and sustain our core outreach and organizational work. Donate here: Whether or not you are in a financial position to donate, we hope you will join us on October 21st for this opportunity to connect with kindred spirits offering light in dark times.
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The Fairy Creek Blockade and "Eden's Last Chance" with Joshua Wright
08/11/2023
The Fairy Creek Blockade and "Eden's Last Chance" with Joshua Wright
Joshua Wright talks about his film Eden's Last Chance that was released in April of 2023. "For the nonhuman world, the apocalypse has already arrived. Don’t be a bystander to the death of the living world." Go to or watch it on Prime Video, Vimeo, Apple TV, Vudu, and Hoopla. The Fairy Creek Blockade has been established again: "WE ARE BACK (We need YOU to JOIN US) - July 31, 2023, Pacheedaht Territory: A group of Forest Defenders have set up a camp to prevent the logging of old growth forests on Ed are inburgh Mountain near Port Renfrew BC. They are using a massive effigy of a screech owl, sculpted out of recovered wood to block the road at a bridge over the Gordon River, and hope to prevent logging in the largest section of old growth remaining in the watershed, which is home to the threatened owl. The camp was set up on Saturday, July 30 and prevents access to cut blocks 7165 and 7163 above the famous Eden Grove on Edinburgh Mountain were logging was active as early as last week. Elder Bill Jones of the Pacheedaht Nation has called for the protection of all of the old growth on his territory, and supports this latest action. More info at " Additional news: this year’s DGR Conference is coming up later this month, and will include three days of training, workshops, group discussions, strategizing, and community. DGR Guardians, Cadre, and family (including children) are all welcome. Allies and friends may be approved to attend as well on a case-by-case basis. If you fall into one of those categories and want to attend, let us know. Cost is a sliding scale, from $25—$250. And if you want to donate to support our conference, you can . Thank you!
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Sued for Protecting Thacker Pass
07/05/2023
Sued for Protecting Thacker Pass
In this episode of The Green Flame podcast, host Max Wilbert shares an update about the lawsuit filed against him and six other water protectors (including Will Falk, who has been on the Green Flame before) related to their protests against the Thacker Pass lithium mine in Nevada. For more information on the lawsuit and the campaign, visit . The Green Flame production team would also like to sincerely thank everyone who contributed to our fundraiser in May and June. Your generous donations enabled us to purchase equipment for our audio engineer to facilitate her work on this show. We are very grateful.
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We Need Your Help
05/09/2023
We Need Your Help
We are asking for your help to keep the Green Flame moving — we need to raise $1000 or more for production equipment for our audio engineer. This equipment will also support the final edits to an audiobook version of Deep Green Resistance: Strategy to Save the Planet that we have recorded and are planning to release for free. Thank you so much for your support! The Green Flame is a Deep Green Resistance podcast that brings you revolutionary analysis, practical skills, and artistic expression from the grassroots movement to dismantle global industrial civilization.
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"Our Rights to Self-Determination: a Hawaiian Manifesto" with Anne Keala Kelly
03/10/2023
"Our Rights to Self-Determination: a Hawaiian Manifesto" with Anne Keala Kelly
On this episode, Max Wilbert speaks with Anne Keala Kelly about her new short book, "Our Rights to Self-Determination: a Hawaiian Manifesto." In addition to being an author, Keala is a filmmaker, journalist, podcaster, and writer. Her published articles and Op-Eds have appeared in the Honolulu Star-Advertiser, The Nation, Indian Country Today, Honolulu Weekly, Honolulu Civil Beat, Hana Hou! Magazine, Big Island Journal, and other publications. Her broadcast journalism has aired on Free Speech Radio News, Independent Native News, Al Jazeera English, The Newshour with Jim Lehrer, Democracy Now!, The Environment Report, and more. She is a frequent guest commentator on First Voices Indigenous Radio, and has been interviewed on numerous nationally syndicated radio programs, from KPFK Los Angeles' Rise-Up to Native America Calling in Anchorage to the Australia Broadcast Corporation's Pacific Beat. Her reporting on Hawaiian poverty and homelessness garnered her Native American Journalism Awards. And her documentary, Noho Hewa: The Wrongful Occupation of Hawai'i, has received international film festival awards, and is widely taught in university courses focusing on Indigenous Peoples, colonization, Hawaiian sovereignty, and militarism. Keala is an outspoken Native advocate for Indigenous representation in media, and has been a guest speaker at universities in Hawai'i, the U.S., and Aotearoa-New Zealand. She has delivered conference keynotes and participated in conference and community panels and roundtables. She has an MFA in production from the UCLA School of Theater, Film, and Television.
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Renee Gerlich: Out Of The Fog - On Politics, Feminism and Coming Alive
02/23/2023
Renee Gerlich: Out Of The Fog - On Politics, Feminism and Coming Alive
Our third Green Flame interview with Renee Gerlich celebrates the publication of Out Of The Fog: On Politics, Feminism and Coming Alive (Spinifex Press, 2022). Renee is a writer, artist and feminist based out of New Zealand. We focus on the coming alive aspect of Renee's life and her new multidimensional book. From the Publisher: From racialised police brutality to climate change, #MeToo, ‘trans rights’, COVID-19, the prospect of nuclear war and the prevalence of trauma – we are constantly bombarded with high stakes problems that we are expected to speak out about and act on. On closer inspection, the popular solutions to each of these problems aren’t easy to reconcile. Black Lives Matter activists demand prison abolition, while #MeToo feminists want rapists in jail – and while our objections to war and police brutality make us suspicious of state institutions in general, our responses to climate change and COVID-19 reinforce our dependency on them. Out of the Fog cuts through the confusion. Renée Gerlich suggests that readers move beyond feeling overwhelmed and emotionally manipulated. She draws on a radical feminist tradition that demonstrates how our despair is connected to our most pressing social problems, and offers a framework for assessing and interpreting the current political landscape. Out of the Fog delivers clarity and guidance in this bewildering time. Renée Gerlich’s insights will help you develop the capacity to speak with an authentic voice and to act purposefully and with impact in the world. ...understanding how our private heartbreak relates to our large-scale problems is the only way we can unravel the helplessness we feel, claim our voices, and take action in the way we deeply crave. We cannot do any of these things while living with the cognitive dissonance of competing ideas, priorities, solutions, and top-down paternalism.
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Live event recording from "Collapse: Climate, Ecology, and Civilization"
11/21/2022
Live event recording from "Collapse: Climate, Ecology, and Civilization"
On November 19th, Deep Green Resistance hosted a special 3-hour live streaming event, "Collapse: Climate, Ecology, and Civilization" featuring Derrick Jensen, Saba Malik, Max Wilbert, Robert Jensen, Lierre Keith, and grassroots activists from four continents. This podcast is the audio recording of the event. If you wish to donate to support this work, please visit: . Thank you for our speakers, volunteers, organizers, and donors. We could not do this without you. ______________________ Our way of life — industrial civilization — is destroying the planet. From coral reefs to the great forests, the last strongholds of the wild are falling. The climate is destabilizing. And we are entering the 6th mass extinction of life on Earth. Ecological collapse is here. This unprecedented crisis demands extraordinary solutions. And yet, governments and mainstream environmental groups are failing to chart a path towards a livable future. What is to be done? Join the philosopher poet of the deep ecology movement Derrick Jensen, radical eco-feminist author and strategist Lierre Kieth, and special guests Saba Malik and Robert Jensen for a special 3-hour live streaming event, Collapse: Ecology, Climate, and Civilization, hosted by Deep Green Resistance. This event explored issues of collapse (ecological, climatic, and civilizational) with a focus on organized, political resistance to slow and mitigate the worst aspects of collapse and accelerate the positive impacts. There were opportunities to ask questions and participate in dialogue. This event is also a fundraiser, because the mainstream environmental movement is funded mainly by foundations which don’t want foundational or revolutionary change. Radical organizations like Deep Green Resistance rely on individual donors to support our work. We are raising $25,000 to fund a national speaking tour, a community-led hydropower dam resistance campaign in the Philippines, land-defense campaigns addressing mining and biodiversity, training programs for activists around the world, and other organizational work. Whether or not you are in a financial position to donate, we hope you will enjoy and learn from this special event! _____________ We're also running an auction that is open for another two days, until November 23rd:
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Join us for a Special Live Event on November 19th - "Collapse: Ecology, Climate, and Civilization"
11/10/2022
Join us for a Special Live Event on November 19th - "Collapse: Ecology, Climate, and Civilization"
Our way of life — industrial civilization — is destroying the planet. From coral reefs to the great forests, the last strongholds of the wild are falling. The climate is destabilizing. And we are entering the 6th mass extinction of life on Earth. Ecological collapse is here. This unprecedented crisis demands extraordinary solutions. And yet, governments and mainstream environmental groups are failing to chart a path towards a livable future. What is to be done? This November 19th, join the philosopher poet of the deep ecology movement Derrick Jensen, radical eco-feminist author and strategist Lierre Kieth, and special guests Saba Malik and Robert Jensen for a special 3-hour live streaming event, Collapse: Ecology, Climate, and Civilization starting at 3pm Pacific Time and hosted by Deep Green Resistance. This event will explore issues of collapse (ecological, climatic, and civilizational) with a focus on organized, political resistance to slow and mitigate the worst aspects of collapse and accelerate the positive impacts. There will be opportunities to ask questions and participate in dialogue. This event is also a fundraiser, because the mainstream environmental movement is funded mainly by foundations which don’t want foundational or revolutionary change. Radical organizations like Deep Green Resistance rely on individual donors to support our work. We are raising $25,000 to fund a national speaking tour, a community-led hydropower dam resistance campaign in the Philippines, land-defense campaigns addressing mining and biodiversity, training programs for activists around the world, and other organizational work. Whether or not you are in a financial position to donate, we hope you will join us this November 19th for this special event! Special thanks to our new editor M.K.
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What is Biocentrism?
05/24/2022
What is Biocentrism?
Joshua Clinton reads the article, "What is Biocentrism?" which was originally published on the DGR News Service on April 15, 2022.
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"Don't Look Up" — Brilliant Critique of Climate Deniers or Neoliberal Fairy Tale?
04/29/2022
"Don't Look Up" — Brilliant Critique of Climate Deniers or Neoliberal Fairy Tale?
In this episode, Max Wilbert and Carl van Warmerdam discuss the 2021 Netflix film "Don't Look Up," an extended allegory for global warming. We discuss whether the film is an accurate satire or a pandering neoliberal fairy tale - or both.
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Article: Dams Are Not Green Energy
03/31/2022
Article: Dams Are Not Green Energy
Joshua Clinton reads the article:
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Abortion Rights in the US with Lauren Levey
12/09/2021
Abortion Rights in the US with Lauren Levey
Lauren Levey has had a lifelong involvement with women's rights and lesbian rights. She is a second-wave radical feminist who is currently on the Board of Directors of the Women's Human Rights Campaign USA, and serves as its Vice President. In this episode Lauren shares her radical analysis of abortion in America and on the fight to end the subjugation and erasure of women.
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Betty Ball on Ecofeminism and Judi Bari
11/21/2021
Betty Ball on Ecofeminism and Judi Bari
Longtime environmental and social activist and co founder of the Mendocino Environmental Center Betty Ball reflects on ecofeminism and her relationship with Judi Bari. The music for this episode is provided by the late Gary Ball, Betty's husband and fellow co-founder of the MEC.
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"Principles of Sustainable Societies" with Dr. Heide Goettner-Abendroth
11/20/2021
"Principles of Sustainable Societies" with Dr. Heide Goettner-Abendroth
Dr. Heide Goettner-Abendroth's Girls and the Grasses keynote presentation, Principles of Sustainable Societies: Matriarchy as a Radical Alternative followed by a Q&A conversation with Lierre Keith, Michelle Martin, Rebecca Wildbear, Sue Breen and Jennifer Murnan. Check out the full event, which live streams on Saturday November 20th at 1pm Pacific, here: https://givebutter.com/girlsandgrasses
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Protecting Ancient Forests — Update from the Front Lines of Fairy Creek
11/04/2021
Protecting Ancient Forests — Update from the Front Lines of Fairy Creek
In this episode Max speaks with Joshua Wright, a front-line activist who was amongst the first involved in blockading access to Fairy Creek, trying to prevent ancient old-growth forests from being destroyed by logging companies. There have been over 1000 arrests making it one of the largest acts of civil disobedience in Canadian history. These on the ground activists continue to camp on site despite pressure from the loggers to endanger both the forest and its present inhabitants.
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Renee Gerlich - A Brief Complete Herstory
10/19/2021
Renee Gerlich - A Brief Complete Herstory
Renee Gerlich, feminist writer from Wellington, New Zeland outlines her seven book Brief Complete Herstory series. Renee established Dragon Cloud Press in 2021 to publish the series. An invitation to attend the online DGR Girls and the Grasses ecofeminist fundraiser on November 20th is offered at the conclusion of this podcast.
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How to Protect What You Love with Deanna Meyer
09/29/2021
How to Protect What You Love with Deanna Meyer
Deanna Meyer is a serious longtime protector of Prairie Dogs. We discuss her work, how she got started, how her campaigns got so much attention from the media and how to take radical action in defense of what you love. Prairie Dogs are under constant threat, often getting gassed in their burrows in the name of 'development'. Protecting them also means protecting important grasslands. Visit https://prairieprotectioncolorado.org/ to keep up to date and donate to the campaign.
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Exposing Solar and Wind Industry Lies with Chris Devault
09/17/2021
Exposing Solar and Wind Industry Lies with Chris Devault
Today's episode is a discussion with Chris Devault. Chris is a permaculture practitioner and environmental steward who has worked for many years in the solar and wind energy industries, and who is now dedicated to exposing the lies we are told about how wind and solar are 'green' and capable of saving the planet.
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Defending Wild Buffalo with Stephany Seay
08/31/2021
Defending Wild Buffalo with Stephany Seay
Stephany Seay has been on the front lines working to protect Yellowstone’s wild buffalo for the past twenty years. For this episode of The Green Flame, we discuss how she got involved in her work, what bison need in order to restore themselves, and tease Stephany's new buffalo and prairie protection organization. Music: I Need You by LiQWYD, https://soundcloud.com/liqwyd, CC BY 3.0.
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Max Wilbert - Solo Podcast
08/21/2021
Max Wilbert - Solo Podcast
For this episode, Max Wilbert shares some updates from projects he is working on such as lithium mine resistance and Bright Green Lies. Music is Cinderella (Instrumental) by RYYZN Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0.
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