In Motion Podcast
In Motion is the content platform of Church on the Move in Tulsa, Oklahoma where we explore who Jesus is and how His life changes ours.
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Submission in Marriage: What It Is and What It’s Not | Tell Me More
09/26/2024
Submission in Marriage: What It Is and What It’s Not | Tell Me More
Submission is a word that often brings with it feelings of apprehension. What did Paul really teach about submission in marriage in Ephesians 5? Paul’s letter was written to a community of Christ-followers, emphasizing unity in the body of Christ, including unity between husband and wife. However, his teachings on submission aren’t meant to be applied rigidly or without pastoral wisdom. In this episode, Whit and Casey explore what submission looks like in ideal and less than ideal situations and how Paul is reorienting our understanding of God’s family and how it reflects the relationship between Christ and the Church. Show notes: Listen to the Message “Understanding the Mystery of Submission”
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Sex Within Marriage: Why Does It Matter? | Life in Motion
09/24/2024
Sex Within Marriage: Why Does It Matter? | Life in Motion
In this episode of Life in Motion, we dive deeper into the conversation sparked by our previous episode, "How to Boil Water." This time, we're tackling the often-taboo topic of sex and its significance within the church. Join us as we explore the spiritual implications of sexual relationships and how our understanding of intimacy can be transformed. We discuss the importance of purity, the sacredness of marriage, and how our past experiences shape our views on sexuality. Show notes: Check out our previous episode - Intimacy: “Boiling Water” & Not Reading the “Spicy” Books: Check out our series on marriage:
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Marriage: Learning to Speak Your Spouses Language | Tell Me More
09/19/2024
Marriage: Learning to Speak Your Spouses Language | Tell Me More
We all know the importance of our words. Yet, many of us speak without thinking. We don't consider the listener's communication style, how they might receive what we say, or how we can invite Jesus into the conversation. In this episode, we discuss practical ways to learn to speak in a way that your spouse can understand and stay curious in our conversations. It may be tempting to jump right to change how you talk to each other, and while that could bring some quick results, if something deeper doesn't change, your words will eventually drift back to causing harm. Scripture teaches us that our words reflect our hearts. The real issue isn't just communication—it's a heart problem only Jesus can fix. So, let's talk about it! Show notes: Watch the Message - The Life and Death of Words in Your Marriage:
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Beyond Romance: Why Friendship is the Heart of Marriage | Tell Me More
09/12/2024
Beyond Romance: Why Friendship is the Heart of Marriage | Tell Me More
Friendship in marriage is not optional; it’s essential. Without it, you’re missing out on the fullness of joy in your relationships. Just like Christ came near to us, we must come near to each other, being vulnerable, humble, and committed to seeking each other’s glory. This is what makes our marriages—and our Christ communities—truly flourish. In this episode, Whit and Lyndsey explore the picture Jesus gives us of true friendship, what it looks like to step into each other’s world, appreciating each other’s differences, and the power of vulnerability. Show notes: Watch the Message - Keep Being Friends: In this episode, Whit references The Meaning of Marriage by Timothy Keller
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How to Be Married: The True Meaning of One Flesh | Tell Me More
09/06/2024
How to Be Married: The True Meaning of One Flesh | Tell Me More
A lot of marriages can feel like two neighboring countries—independent, coexisting, but not really intertwined in purpose. On the other hand, some partners might lose their individuality, becoming overly enmeshed in the relationship. But there’s a middle ground we’re called to move toward: interdependence. In this episode, Whit and Casey explore how couples can find a common horizon, understand the deep meaning behind being "one flesh," and discover the path to becoming the fullest version of themselves—whether in marriage or as individuals. Show notes: Listen to the message: Marriage: Interdependency, Equal but Different, & Fighting for Each Other:
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How to Be Married: Are You Really Committed? | Tell Me More
08/29/2024
How to Be Married: Are You Really Committed? | Tell Me More
In today’s world, relationships often resemble a consumer model—a value proposition where we constantly weigh what we get from the relationship against what we have to put in. It’s a balancing act: Is this still worth it? When the scales tip in the wrong direction, many of us are tempted to move on. This mindset, however, contrasts sharply with the concept of covenant relationships we see in Scripture. In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about creating a foundation of commitment over feelings and the nature of covenant relationships—both in marriage and with God. Show Notes Listen to the message: Marriage: Faithful Commitment Vs Feelings: In this episode, they mention these books: The Epic of Eden by Sandy L. Richters How to Stay Married by Harrison Scott Key
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Intimacy: "Boiling Water" & Not Reading the "Spicy" Books | Life in Motion
08/27/2024
Intimacy: "Boiling Water" & Not Reading the "Spicy" Books | Life in Motion
In today’s world, navigating our relationships—whether in dating, marriage, family, or community—can feel like walking a tightrope. The constant noise from media, culture, and societal expectations makes it hard to discern what’s truly beneficial and aligned with our faith. So how do we approach these sensitive topics within a faith community? In this episode, Heather and Jamie dive into a candid conversation about intimacy, aging, recognizing when media crosses the line, and tackling important yet often overlooked discussions in the Church. *Note: This episode is not recommended for those under 18—please listen with discretion. Show Notes: Check out our series on biblical marriage: In this episode, Jamie recommends this resource: How to Tell Your Kids About Sex by Stan and Brenna Jones
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How to Be Married: Gospel Renewal Over Selfishness | Tell Me More
08/22/2024
How to Be Married: Gospel Renewal Over Selfishness | Tell Me More
Marriage is more than just a relationship between two people; it's a profound reflection of how God loves us. Yet, in today's culture, there are many misconceptions about marriage—arguably the most intimate and challenging of human relationships. If God is speaking to us through marriage, it’s crucial that we understand what He has to say. In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss Ephesians 4 and unpack the biggest problem to our marriages: self-centeredness and the antidote: the gospel. Show notes: Check Out the Message: Beginning the Journey to a Healthy Marriage: Renovation of the Heart by Dallas Willard How to Stay Married by Harrison Scott Key
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Malachi: Honoring God in a Complacent Culture | Tell Me More
08/15/2024
Malachi: Honoring God in a Complacent Culture | Tell Me More
Do I really have to honor someone I disagree with? Malachi, the last prophetic voice before the coming of Christ, addresses a generation that had become complacent, dishonoring, and lacking integrity, and his message still resonates today. Malachi reminds us that our actions, both in small and large matters, reflect our understanding of who God is. In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss reverence, honor, and integrity in our relationship with God and others. Show notes: Check out the message: Malachi: How to Have Christlike Honor In a Dishonoring World
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Joel: The Path from Brokenness to Renewal | Tell Me More
08/13/2024
Joel: The Path from Brokenness to Renewal | Tell Me More
The pain we refuse to process only lingers, but the Book of Joel reveals God's path to restoration and renewal. God doesn’t want your religious behavior—He desires for you to bring the fullness of your brokenness to Him, allowing Him to begin His transformative work. In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the prophet Joel, the importance of lament, the steps of genuine repentance, and how to create space for God to move in our lives. Show notes: Listen to the message: Joel: A Pattern for Renewal Join us for our upcoming series on what the Bible says about marriage!
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Zechariah: The Spirit’s Empowering Presence | Tell Me More
08/08/2024
Zechariah: The Spirit’s Empowering Presence | Tell Me More
The book of Zechariah offers both a prophetic glimpse into the future and a powerful message for the present. Brimming with vivid imagery and symbolism, it reveals the critical role of the Holy Spirit in fulfilling God’s purposes. But how do we interpret this rich symbolism, and what does the Holy Spirit's influence look like in our lives today? In this episode, Whit and Casey delve into Zechariah chapters 3 and 4, exploring the work of the Holy Spirit and what it means to be a living sacrifice. Show Notes: Check out the message: Zechariah: How the Spirit of God Works Through you:
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Inside Out 2 Review: Navigating the Complexity of Emotions | Life in Motion
07/30/2024
Inside Out 2 Review: Navigating the Complexity of Emotions | Life in Motion
Our emotions are not off-limits! In this episode, Jamie and Heather talk about what they thought of the movie Inside Out 2. They explore how different life stages, like puberty and menopause, can impact our emotions and thoughts, and how crucial godly community is to our sense of self. Grab your popcorn and come along for the ride!
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Habakkuk: Praying Honest Prayers | Tell Me More
07/18/2024
Habakkuk: Praying Honest Prayers | Tell Me More
Prayer is not a place to be perfect; it's a place to be honest. Habakkuk begins by pouring his heart out to God, lamenting the injustice and wickedness he sees. This kind of raw honesty can be uncomfortable, but God wants us to bring our whole selves to Him in prayer—the good, the bad, and the ugly. In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the cultural context of Habakkuk, praying honest prayers, God’s relationship to evil, and our hope for the future. Show notes: Listen to the message: Habakkuk: Bring Your Whole Self to God: In this episode, Casey references a quote from Where Prayer Becomes Real by Kyle Strobel
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What Does it Mean to Wrestle With God? | Life in Motion
06/25/2024
What Does it Mean to Wrestle With God? | Life in Motion
The devil doesn't always tempt us with things that are obviously evil—sometimes he tempts us with comfort. Wrestling with God involves not compromising in moments of discomfort. It means taking your whole self to the Lord and saying, "I don't know if I can trust you, but I'm going to dig into your word and community to find out." In this episode, Jamie and Heather talk about what it means to wrestle with God, dealing with discomfort, and the power of community. Show notes: In this episode, they mention a message from our series on Ruth. Check it out here: They also mention the book Jesus the King by Timothy Keller
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Ruth: Uncovering the Power of Vulnerability, Risk, and Story | Tell Me More
06/06/2024
Ruth: Uncovering the Power of Vulnerability, Risk, and Story | Tell Me More
We have an insatiable appetite for stories. Art helps us make sense of the world, bypassing logic and getting directly at the heart. The story of Ruth teaches us in four chapters what Ruth and Naomi learned over a lifetime. In this episode, Whit and Lyndsey discuss ruth chapter 3, the power of story, how to make sense of the seemingly risqué actions of Ruth, complete submission and vulnerability, and how it all points to Jesus. Show notes: Listen the message Ruth: Vulnerability & Risk
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Walking with the Lord (Literally) | Life in Motion
05/28/2024
Walking with the Lord (Literally) | Life in Motion
Lace up your shoes – we’re going on a walk! In this episode, Heather shares about her transformative experience walking the Camino Santiago pilgrimage. Throughout her 170 mile walk, Heather found solace in the simplicity of being present in the moment, meditating on scripture, and communing with the Lord. Her literal walk was a powerful picture of what it can look like to walk with the Lord in life, trusting Him to guide us step-by-step. Show notes: Check out our series: How to Hear God
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Ruth: Following God in the Midst of Suffering | Tell Me More
05/23/2024
Ruth: Following God in the Midst of Suffering | Tell Me More
Life doesn’t always turn out the way we hope or plan. When we face loss and disappointment, we may question if God is who He says He is. We can learn a lot about facing adversity from the story of Ruth and Naomi, who both lose everything they have but continue to move toward God. In this episode, Whit and Chris discuss navigating suffering, wrestling with God, small steps of faithfulness, and God’s partnership with man. Show notes: Listen to the Message: Faithfully Following God in the Face of Loss In this episode, Chris recommends these books: The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis The God I Don’t Understand by Christopher Wright
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Reading Ruth in Context | Tell Me More
05/16/2024
Reading Ruth in Context | Tell Me More
If you didn’t know, the Old Testament has some pretty crazy stories. One of the challenges in understanding ancient texts like Ruth is the vast cultural gap between then and now. Ruth unfolds against the backdrop of the time of the judges, a period marked by moral decline and spiritual turbulence in Israel. In this episode, Whit and Casey take a deep dive into the cultural, historical, and biblical context of the story. Show notes: Check out Part 2 of this Conversation: Check out the Message: An Introduction to the Book of Ruth Check Out this Podcast: Does the Old Testament Dehumanize Women? Dr. Sandy Richter Check Out this Book: Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes by E. Randolph Richards and Brandon J. O’Brien
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Ruth: How God Works Through People & Places | Tell Me More
05/16/2024
Ruth: How God Works Through People & Places | Tell Me More
To read the story of Ruth as a romantic love story is to miss the full picture of God’s faithfulness in horrific circumstances. It is about love –– but the covenantal, sacrificial kind of Ruth to Naomi and God to His people. In the second part of their conversation about Ruth, Whit and Casey explore how God works through people and places to form us. Show notes: Check Out Part 1 of this Conversation: Check out the Message: An Introduction to Ruth In this episode, Whit recommends as a Bible study tool.
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Recognizing God's Voice | Tell Me More
05/09/2024
Recognizing God's Voice | Tell Me More
Have you ever felt like God speaks more clearly to others than to you? In the noise of life, discerning God's voice can be a challenge. But we have good news: you can get better at recognizing God’s voice! In this episode, Spiritual Formation Pastors Casey Shirley and Blake Zimmerman talk about how God speaks through His Spirit, the power of community, and learning to pay attention to God’s voice even in the mundane. Show notes: Listen to the message: Normalizing the Voice of the Holy Spirit in Your Life In this episode, Blake mentions the book Windows of the Soul by Ken Gire
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Do My Kids Like Each Other? | Life in Motion
04/30/2024
Do My Kids Like Each Other? | Life in Motion
As parents, one of our greatest desires is to see our children not only get along but also develop long-lasting bonds that last their whole lives. How do we help our kids want to stay close to us and to each other? In this episode, Heather and Jamie get vulnerable about their own sibling dynamics, discuss healthy communication, and share their hopes for the future of their family relationships.
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How to Love Your Bible | Tell Me More
04/25/2024
How to Love Your Bible | Tell Me More
A lot of us respect the Bible but if we’re honest with ourselves, we struggle to love it. We haven't learned to "consume" what's spiritually nourishing. Scripture is not just literature; it's spiritual fuel, essential for our growth and vitality. In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss how to learn and grow in our understanding and love of God’s Word. Show notes: Check out the Message: How to Hear God Through His Word Bible Resources: Eat This Book by Eugene Peterson How to Read the Bible for All It’s Worth by Gordon D. Fee and Douglas Stuart The Bible Project: https://bibleproject.com/ Bible Recap: https://www.thebiblerecap.com/ Bible Books in 30 Minutes Podcast: Study Scripture in Community:
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How to Hear God | Tell Me More
04/18/2024
How to Hear God | Tell Me More
Sometimes it feels impossible to hear God in a world filled with distractions and doubts. We often want a miraculous, "burning bush" moment. But what if He's speaking through the ordinary, day-to-day? In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the pivotal role of wisdom, the common pitfalls we encounter in seeking God's voice, and their own encounters with God's guidance. Show notes: Listen to the Message “God Wants to Speak to You”: Check out the Life in Motion episode that was referenced “Finding Purpose in Every Season”:
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Are You on the Path of Life? | Tell Me More
04/04/2024
Are You on the Path of Life? | Tell Me More
Is Jesus offering us a hard and miserable life? At the end of the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus unveils two distinct paths: one to life and one to death. The path to life is one of repentance and devotion – it requires leaving everything behind. But the treasure is worth the cost. In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the road to life Jesus sets out in the Sermon on the Mount and the historical and cultural impact of Christianity. Show notes: Listen to the Message: Easter 2024 | Enter by the Narrow Gate:
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Finding Purpose in Every Season: Getting Older & Embracing the Changes | Life in Motion
03/26/2024
Finding Purpose in Every Season: Getting Older & Embracing the Changes | Life in Motion
Change is a constant in life. If you’re not prepared for a changing season, you can find yourself at loose ends, thinking, well, now what? It’s so important to find purpose wherever you’re at, and that happens best in godly community. In this episode, Jamie and Heather get vulnerable about where they’re at and how they can flourish in every area of their lives. If you’re feeling stuck in your season, this is a great episode for you. Show notes: In this episode, Jamie mentions the book The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk Find our How to Be Human series here:
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Navigating Jesus' Teachings on Money | Tell Me More
03/07/2024
Navigating Jesus' Teachings on Money | Tell Me More
Nothing can make us feel like a god quite like money––it gets to the heart of both our desires and our needs. In a world vying for our attention at every turn, Jesus challenges us to examine what truly has priority in our lives. You can’t serve God and money, so which will it be? In this episode, Whit and Casey break down Matthew 6:19-34. They talk about spiritual practices to decenter money from our lives, learning dependence on God, and more! Show notes: Listen to the message Navigating Jesus' Teachings: Money, Attention & Your Needs: In this episode, Whit mentions the book East of Eden by John Steinbeck
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How Should We Pray? | Tell Me More
02/29/2024
How Should We Pray? | Tell Me More
Why does prayer often feel awkward and uncomfortable? We often struggle with feelings of inadequacy, striving for the perfect words while missing the authentic connection with God. The basis of prayer is not performance but relationship. So, how should we pray? In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about their personal experiences with prayer, our misconceptions about God, and what Jesus had to say about prayer. Show notes: Listen to the Message How to Pray: In this episode, Whit mentions the book Sacred Pathways by Gary Thomas
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Things I Would Tell My 20-Year Old Self | Life in Motion
02/27/2024
Things I Would Tell My 20-Year Old Self | Life in Motion
What advice would you give your younger self? In this episode, Jamie and Heather have a candid conversation about Heather turning 50 and the unexpected reflections and realizations that come with it. They talk about the complexities of aging, parenting, the pressures of social media, and living to the fullest in every season of life. Plus, they have a lot of fun along the way!
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Whose Approval Are You Living For? | Tell Me More
02/22/2024
Whose Approval Are You Living For? | Tell Me More
We live in a time where we can curate and present our lives for optimal praise and validation. Social media preys on a desire built into every human heart - the desire for approval. Wanting approval isn’t a bad thing. In fact, we’re hardwired for it. The question is, who are we seeking approval from? In this episode, Whit and Casey dive deeper into Matthew 6, shame and honor vs. guilt and innocence cultures, approval in the age of social media, and the transforming initiative of secrecy. Show Notes: Watch the Message: If you missed last week's message, you can watch it here: In this episode, Whit mentions these books, -Remaking the World by Andrew Wilson -A Secular Age by Charles Taylor -Making Sense of God by Timothy Keller -Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes by E. Randolph Richards & Brandon J. O'Brien
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What Did Jesus Say About Marriage & Divorce? | Tell Me More
02/08/2024
What Did Jesus Say About Marriage & Divorce? | Tell Me More
At first glance, passages where Jesus addresses marriage and divorce are confusing at best and harsh at worst. But when we begin to peel back the layers and grasp the context, we see that Jesus is actually elevating our view of marriage. In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss interpreting difficult passages, covenantal commitment, and how marriage should look in the Kingdom of Jesus. Show notes: Listen to the message What Does the Bible Say About Marriage?
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