Growing Your Firm | Strategies for Accountants, CPA's, Bookkeepers , and Tax Professionals
Growing Your Firm is the top podcast for ambitious firm owners to find tips, tactics, and strategies on how to grow their firm (or practice). In this podcast we'll be interviewing unique thought leaders in accounting, tax, and bookkeeping about topics including: practice management, marketing, social media, succession planning, partner relations, hiring, pricing, and much more.
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How Firms Are Reaching 7x EBITDA
08/16/2026
How Firms Are Reaching 7x EBITDA
Is your accounting practice built to scale—or positioned for a high-multiple exit? In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello welcomes back Geoff Bruskin, founder and CEO of White Tiger Connections. Geoff pulls back the curtain on the current "white-hot" public accounting M&A market in 2026. From the rise of Fractional COO engagements to 7x+ EBITDA multiples, Jeff breaks down what buyers are looking for and why private equity (PE) plays fail 40% of the time when they ignore the human element of change management. Whether you're an Operations Manager looking to optimize workflow, a Managing Partner eyeing a future exit, or a CPA starting a firm, this episode is packed with real-world deal structures, go-to-market strategies, and tech implementation blueprints. In this episode, we explore: The Fractional COO Model: Why $1M to $20M accounting firms are hiring fractional executive leaders to build infrastructure for scale rather than overpaying for full-time roles. Inside a 7.4x EBITDA Deal: A deep dive into a $2.7M remote, subscription-based micro-platform firm asking $8M. The PE Spectrum (Successes vs. Failures): Why 30–40% of private equity acquisitions fail due to aggressive price hikes, poor software adoption, and staff turnover. The "Solutions Architect" Role: Why every growing practice needs an internal champion to bridge systems like CCH, TaxDome, Carbon, and CRM tools. Offensive vs. Defensive Strategy: How cross-selling Client Advisory Services (CAS) and wealth management can multiply your firm's enterprise value. Agentic AI & Claude CoWork: How modern leaders use AI agents to automate IT mapping, proposal scoping, and client deliverables. Key Deal Benchmarks Mentioned: Average Deal Multiple: 4x to 6x Adjusted EBITDA for traditional practices. Micro-Platform Multiples: Up to 7.4x+ for firms with 100% subscription models and balanced CAS/Tax integration. Solutions Architect Compensation: $60k to $150k annually (domestic or offshore) to eliminate technology friction. Featured Guest: Geoff Bruskin Take control of your practice: Optimize your workflow with Jetpack Workflow: https://bit.ly/4bj4a0H 🚀 Sign up for a 14-day free trial to Jetpack Workflow! https://app2.jetpackworkflow.com/auth/login 🚀 Stay Connected: Subscribe for bi-weekly stories from firm owners and modern accounting strategies. 👋 Say hi on social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jetpackworkflow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jetpackworkflow Twitter: https://x.com/jetpackworkflow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jetpack_workflow/# 🎙 Listen to Growing Your Firm Podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/growing-your-firm-strategies-for-accountants-cpas-bookkeepers/id923004172 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6MauXYaHFyS0rlb6L3Qb1U Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/jetpack-workflow/growing-your-firm #accounting #accountingfirm #firmgrowth #accountingworkflow
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Firing Clients & Making $100K/mo
08/02/2026
Firing Clients & Making $100K/mo
Can you run a thriving, hyper-local accounting practice while living in Mexico for four months of the year? Most accounting firm owners and managing partners assume that running a local firm requires being chained to a brick-and-mortar office—especially during busy seasons. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Nancy McClelland, CPA (widely known as The Dancing Accountant). Nancy shares how she built a highly profitable, 100% remote, hyper-local firm in Chicago that allows her to spend every tax season working from Mexico. If you are a bookkeeping firm owner, a CPA starting a firm, or an operations manager trying to fix a broken tax season, this episode provides a masterclass in firm boundaries, client selection, and bookkeeper-to-tax-pro collaboration. In this episode, we unpack: The Hyper-Local Strategy: How Nancy built a 25-year-old firm serving only small businesses within a few specific Chicago neighborhoods. The "No Bookkeeping, No Tax" Rule: Why Nancy refuses to prepare tax returns for clients unless her team handles their monthly bookkeeping and advisory. Fixing the Bookkeeper-to-Tax Pro Handoff: Eliminating duplication of effort, preventing missed reconciliations, and creating a standardized "tax-ready" handoff checklist. Voting Clients Off the Island: How Nancy’s team uses quarterly "paid happy hours" to identify and offboard clients who disrespect team members or drag down morale. Shunning "Growth for Growth's Sake": Why turning down new clients and focusing on deep advisory for a capped client base creates a more profitable, stress-free practice. Key Metrics & Workflow Takeaways: 100% Remote Flexibility: How Nancy transitioned her entire team to remote work over a decade ago using simple tools like Zoom, AirTable, and QBO. The Tax-Ready Bookkeeping Standard: Shifting year-end cleanups into recurring, junior-staff-driven monthly processes. Featured Guest: Nancy McClelland
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CPA Firm Succession and Profitability Blueprint | Ira Rosenbloom
07/19/2026
CPA Firm Succession and Profitability Blueprint | Ira Rosenbloom
Are you running an accounting practice that can survive independent of your personal production, or are your key successors already looking for the nearest exit? In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Ira Rosenbloom, CEO of Optimum Strategies, known across the industry as the "Merger and Profitability Optimizer." With over 25 years of hands-on experience as a practicing CPA and managing partner, Ira pulls back the curtain on how to navigate the complex crossroads of generational change, standardizing client management, and securing maximum value for your firm. Whether you are a managing partner trying to transition equity, a CPAs starting a firm, or an operations manager driving software adoption, this masterclass changes how you view structural firm health. Inside This Episode, We Unpack: The Valuation Multiplier Trap: Why the fastest way to explosive growth isn't just jacking up client fees—it’s analyzing fee tiers to identify where leakage actually occurs. Preventing Scope Creep: How to eliminate standard-to-actual time gaps by aligning your team with automated tracking and project margin thresholds. The "Gen-Z" Partnership Disconnect: Why your "locked-in" junior leaders are turning down partnership tracks—and how to redesign firm culture around outcomes instead of clock-punching. The Real Cost of Private Equity: A look at the 50-50 staff retention reality after a roll-up and what a boardroom buyout means for your long-term team autonomy. The Alternative Practice Model: How boutique independent firms can replicate private equity structures by integrating non-CPA advisory services to remain fiercely competitive. Ira's Golden Rule Checklist: The explicit strategic milestones every owner needs to implement between ages 55 and 65 to protect firm lineage. Key Metrics & Operational Takeaways For Firm Managers: Shed Equity Early: Why passing down fractional client liaison-ships ahead of retirement protects your client stickiness from a sudden talent walk-out. Client Tier Consolidation: Shifting bandwidth away from low-margin $3,500 compliance accounts to high-value strategic advisory. Featured Guest: Ira Rosenbloom
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How to Build and Sell a 2M CPA and Law Firm | Mike Payne
07/05/2026
How to Build and Sell a 2M CPA and Law Firm | Mike Payne
Whether you’re a CPA starting a firm, an operations manager, or a managing partner looking at succession options, understanding what actually drives firm valuation in today's intense M&A market is critical. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Mike Payne, a veteran M&A consultant who has spent nearly two decades facilitating accounting firm mergers, acquisitions, and private equity investments. Mike pulls back the curtain on transactions ranging from $1M to over $100M to explain exactly how buyers evaluate practices and why the traditional metrics you read about are often just hearsay. In this episode, we explore: The Revenue vs. EBITDA Shift: Why the accounting world has fundamentally shifted from gross revenue multiples to Adjusted EBITDA valuations. The Private Equity (PE) Reality: How the massive influx of outside capital is reshaping deal structures, increasing cash at the table, and forcing traditional firms to change. The CAS and Tax Premium: Why a strong Client Accounting Services (CAS) department and recurring, sticky tax revenue can instantly add multiples to your firm's value. The "Airport Test" for Culture: Why early-stage deal-making fails without alignment on culture, leadership, and operational tech stacks. Stress-Testing Internal Succession: Real-world tactical advice for firm owners who want to successfully pass the baton to the next generation of junior partners. The Fiercely Independent Path: Why selling isn't your only choice, and how to build a highly profitable, independent firm by playing defense against consolidation. Key Benchmarks Mentioned: Healthy Profitability: Why 30% to 35% bottom-line profit (pre-owner compensation) is the gold standard benchmark for an attractive firm. Partner Billable Hours: The hidden red flag of high partner-level billable hours that can tank your valuation during due diligence. Featured Guest: Mike Payne
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Solo CPA to $290k Revenue | Yuri Kapilovich
06/21/2026
Solo CPA to $290k Revenue | Yuri Kapilovich
Can you run a hyper-profitable tax and advisory firm while heavily restricting your personal work hours? Most accounting firm owners and managing partners assume that scaling past six figures requires sacrificing their personal life to the grind. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Yuri Kapilovich, Managing Partner of Kapilovich and Associates—known across social media as "The Fun CPA." After spending over a decade handling high-net-worth clients at giant tax firms, Yuri stepped out on his own to build an ultra-lean, highly optimized practice. Yuri pulls back the curtain on how he structure-built his firm to generate nearly $290k in gross revenue while working only 15 to 25 hours a week! If you’re a bookkeeping firm owner, a CPA starting a firm, or an operations manager, this step-by-step masterclass reveals how pricing alignment directly builds lifestyle freedom. In this episode, we explore: The "Fun CPA" Blueprint: How leaning into raw, honest, and unconventional branding on LinkedIn unlocked massive organic growth. The $2,000 Minimum Baseline: Why establishing rigid price floors protects your team's capacity and eliminates low-margin, high-volume compliance traps. The Three-Tier Revenue Split: Breaking down Yuri's $290k engine—from seasonal tax preparation to core quarterly advisory and monthly recurring client accounting services (CAS). The Ultimate Solo Leverage Strategy: Managing 80 high-value business clients by hyper-utilizing part-time specialized contractor support. Social Media vs. Firm Reality: An honest discussion on managing the mental toll of online comparison and how to strategically filter out vanity metrics. Key Metrics and Firm Benchmarks Mentioned: Average Relationship Value: $3,500 to $3,600 per client. The "3x" Capacity Rule: Ensuring your fractional team or software tools produce three times their compensation footprint to maintain an elite profit margin. Featured Guest: Yuri Kapilovich
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How This CPA Built and Sold a $2M Accounting Firm with Adam Shay
06/07/2026
How This CPA Built and Sold a $2M Accounting Firm with Adam Shay
Are you a firm owner trying to break past that next big growth plateau? Many managing partners and bookkeeping firm owners find themselves stuck in the daily grind, struggling to build a practice that can survive independent of their personal production. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host Dave Cristello sits down with Adam Shay, CPA, a dad, entrepreneur, and high-performance firm coach. Adam pulls back the curtain on his own journey of building, scaling, and ultimately selling a multimillion-dollar accounting firm. Today, through Share the Knowledge LLC, he helps fellow owners design companies built with intention—and positioned perfectly for a future exit. Whether you are an operations manager trying to optimize workflow or a CPA starting a firm from scratch, this episode offers practical, data-driven strategies to maximize structural efficiency. In this episode, we unpack: The Firm Snapshot: What Adam's firm looked like two years prior to a successful sale (10 team members and nearly $2M in revenue). Ditching the Compliance Trap: Moving clients to a mandatory high-value advisory package that features proactive tax planning. The "Broken Process Document": Adam’s highly practical, low-friction Google Sheets strategy that empowers teams to log workflow bottlenecks as they happen. Capacity & Staff Ownership: How to encourage senior team members to bring proposed solutions rather than just dumping problems on management. The Multiplier Mindset: Key metrics to track weekly, including labor efficiency ratios and technical rework percentages. A Candid Look at M&A: The real-world nuances of working with specialized brokers and navigating post-merger transition periods. Featured Guest: Adam Shay
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How This Accounting Firm From 0 to $10M in 7 Years with Joe Manganelli
05/23/2026
How This Accounting Firm From 0 to $10M in 7 Years with Joe Manganelli
Are you running an accounting practice that relies entirely on your own personal production, or have you built a scalable business that can exist independently of you? For accounting firm owners, managing partners, and CPAs starting firms, understanding how to shift from manual operations to an acquirable business model is the ultimate goal. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Joe Manganelli, the former founder and CEO of Calculate. Joe shares his incredible journey of launching, scaling, and successfully selling his outsourced CFO and accounting firm in under seven years. He pulls back the curtain on his aggressive top-line growth strategies, pricing models, and how he scaled his team to nearly 45 headcounts with zero outside funding. In this episode, we explore: - The Bootstrapped Blueprint: How Joe scaled Calculate to a $10M run rate without taking on venture capital or outside investment. - Top-Line Growth vs. Profitability: The strategic decisions behind running a high-growth firm (averaging 75%+ year-over-year) with modest margins. - Frictionless Client Acquisition: Transitioning from exhausting networking events to building a highly efficient, inbound B2B referral network. - The "Experienced" Hiring Strategy: Why your first operations managers and team members should have more experience than you do to truly offload workflow responsibilities. - The Reality of M&A: What the modern sale structure looks like for accounting firms, from equity rollovers to earnouts and transition periods.
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15 minutes to Complete a Month-End Close? Interview with Issac Perdomo
05/08/2026
15 minutes to Complete a Month-End Close? Interview with Issac Perdomo
In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Isaac Perdomo, founder of Opzer, to discuss the practical application of AI and low-code/no-code tools in modern accounting practices. Isaac shares real-world case studies of firms drastically reducing manual workloads and increasing their capacity for high-value advisory services. In this episode, we explore: - The "Window of Opportunity": Why the next 12–24 months are critical for firms to adopt AI before the market settles. - Beyond the Hype: Moving from generic ChatGPT use to building bespoke internal tools with Claude, Replit, and Lovable. - The 15-Minute Close: How a case study firm reduced bookkeeping time from 2 hours to 15 minutes per client using automated workflows. - Quality Assurance (QA) with AI: Using LLMs as an additional layer of review for financial statements and deliverables. - Vibe Coding & Custom Apps: Why the era of the "30-app tech stack" is evolving into firms building their own specialized internal software. - Sentiment Analysis: How to use meeting transcripts from tools like Granola or Fireflies to detect client dissatisfaction before they churn. Key Tools Discussed: - Automation Engines: Make.com, n8n, and Zapier. - AI Models: Claude and ChatGPT. - Prototyping: Lovable and Replit. - Meeting Intelligence: Granola, Fireflies, and Fathom. Featured Guest: Isaac Perdomo
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How to Build a 90% Automated Accounting Firm
04/25/2026
How to Build a 90% Automated Accounting Firm
Is the traditional general ledger dead? As small businesses and startups demand real-time data, the standard "wait two weeks for a black-and-white P&L" model is becoming obsolete. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Jeff Seibert, co-founder and CEO of Digits and former Head of Consumer Product at Twitter (now X). Jeff reveals why he spent over five years and $100M in venture capital to rebuild accounting software from the ground up to be AI-native. Whether you’re a firm owner looking to scale or a tech-forward CPA, this conversation explores how "Agentic Accounting" is moving the profession from manual data entry to high-level advisory. In this episode, we discuss: The Genesis of Digits: How Jeff’s experience scaling Twitter exposed the massive data gap between engineering and finance. What is an Agentic General Ledger? Moving beyond "bolt-on" AI to a vector-graph data model where the intelligence is baked into the ledger itself. Automating the Month-End Close: Why Jeff predicts 90% of bookkeeping, reconciliation, and schedules will be automated by the end of 2026. Classification Accuracy: Why LLMs (like ChatGPT) fail at bookkeeping and how Digits achieved 97% accuracy using custom predictive models. The Future of Firm Competition: Why the gap between AI-adopting firms and traditional firms will create a "margin opportunity" that reshapes the industry. Jeff’s Top AI Tools for Founders: Insights into Whispr Flow (for voice dictation) and Granola (for frictionless meeting notes).
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Why Accountants Are Leaving Money on the Table (And How to Fix It)
04/10/2026
Why Accountants Are Leaving Money on the Table (And How to Fix It)
Are you tired of the "compliance grind"? Most accountants overlook a goldmine sitting right in their current database: Tax Resolution. With over 27 million Americans currently facing IRS issues, the demand for representation has never been higher. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Michael Rozbruch, founder of Roz Strategies and a pioneer in the tax resolution industry. Michael shares how he grew a practice from his dining room table to a $23 million-a-year powerhouse and why now is the best time in history for firms to enter this space. In this episode, we explore: The "Stealth" Referral Letter: How to generate $5k–$10k cases from your existing clients without spending a dime on ads. The 4 Collection Alternatives: Michael simplifies the IRS maze into four main outcomes (Installment Agreements, Offer in Compromise, Penalty Abatement, and Currently Not Collectible). The $6,000 Marketing Campaign: A step-by-step breakdown of the "Old School" direct mail strategy that targets PTIN holders and generates consistent inbound leads. The "Sales Prevention" Department: Why not answering your phone live is costing you hundreds of thousands in potential fees. The IRS "Mega API": How the government's transition to AI and machine learning will exponentially increase enforcement and audits in 2025/2026. The Tax Resolution Intake Script: Michael reveals the "Psychologically Induced" questions every firm should ask to qualify leads, including: "Does the IRS claim you owe $10,000 or more?" "Has the IRS levied your bank account yet?" "Has the IRS garnished your paycheck yet?"
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The M&A Shift Toward Adjusted EBITDA Margins
03/25/2026
The M&A Shift Toward Adjusted EBITDA Margins
Are you building a firm to last, or building it to sell? Whether you’re a CPA starting a firm or a Managing Partner eyeing retirement, understanding the current M&A (Mergers & Acquisitions) landscape is critical for your largest wealth-generation tool: your practice. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host Dave Cristella sits down with Doug Lewis, Managing Director at The Visionary Group, to pull back the curtain on how buyers are actually evaluating accounting and bookkeeping firms in 2026. From the impact of Private Equity (PE) to the "sticky revenue" of Client Accounting Services (CAS), Doug breaks down the metrics that determine your firm's valuation. In this episode, we discuss: 1. The Shift in Valuation: Why firms are moving away from gross revenue multiples and toward Adjusted EBITDA. 2. The CAS Premium: Why Client Accounting Services and outsourced bookkeeping are trading for higher multiples than traditional audit or tax. 3. The Talent Shortage & M&A: How the pipeline shortage is moving "Talent" to the #1 spot on buyer wishlists. 4. The "Layover Test": Why culture alignment is the first thing that kills a deal (and how to spot red flags early). 5. Internal Succession Stress Testing: What to do when your "locked-in" successors have other plans (like opening a tiki bar in Thailand). 6. Staying Fiercely Independent: Why selling isn't the only path and how to build value even if you never plan to exit. Featured Guest: Doug Lewis Take control of your practice: Optimize your workflow with Jetpack Workflow: https://bit.ly/4bj4a0H 🚀 Sign up for a 14-day free trial to Jetpack Workflow! https://app2.jetpackworkflow.com/auth/login 🚀 Stay Connected: Subscribe for bi-weekly stories from firm owners and modern accounting strategies. 👋 Say hi on social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jetpackworkflow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jetpackworkflow Twitter: https://x.com/jetpackworkflow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jetpack_workflow/# 🎙 Listen to Growing Your Firm Podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/growing-your-firm-strategies-for-accountants-cpas-bookkeepers/id923004172 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6MauXYaHFyS0rlb6L3Qb1U Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/jetpack-workflow/growing-your-firm
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The EOS Lite Framework for Growing a Remote Firm
03/13/2026
The EOS Lite Framework for Growing a Remote Firm
Are you an accounting firm owner, managing partner, or CPA starting a firm who wants to achieve rapid growth without losing your sanity? In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Ben Curtis, co-founder and CEO of Good Measure Financial. Ben shares the inside story of how his firm transitioned from a slow, intentional build to adding 4 full-time employees in just 90 days during a massive growth spurt. Whether you are an operations manager looking for better workflow systems or a leader interested in the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), this episode provides a tactical roadmap for scaling a remote-first accounting business. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: 1. The 50/50 Partnership Model: How Ben manages a firm with a "fractional" co-founder while maintaining clear role definitions and a healthy 50/50 ownership split. 2. EOS Lite for Accounting Firms: Why Ben uses the Vision Traction Organizer (VTO) and L10 meetings to keep his team of 10 aligned, and what parts of EOS he chose to discard. 3. Capacity & Production KPIs: A deep dive into why Good Measure Financial still tracks time and how they use Effective Hourly Rate and Actuals vs. Budget to protect profit margins. 4. Smoothing the Workflow: Tactics for implementing weekly workflows to eliminate the "peak and valley" stress of month-end close. 5. Founder-Led Sales & Relationship Deposits: How Ben’s long-term "relational deposits" led to a flood of new clients from churches and nonprofits.
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Why Accounting Firm Owners Burn Out (And How to Fix It with Better Operations)
03/10/2026
Why Accounting Firm Owners Burn Out (And How to Fix It with Better Operations)
Burnout is often misdiagnosed as a lack of effort, but the true culprit is usually a lack of infrastructure. From excessive rework to murky processes, operational friction is what actually drains a team. The solution isn't to work harder; it's to transition from an owner-dependent model to a robust operating system that scales without requiring the founder's constant intervention. Get the full breakdown and see the process in action on our .
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Why Talent Is the Real Growth Constraint for Accounting Firms: Insights from Jennifer Wilson
03/10/2026
Why Talent Is the Real Growth Constraint for Accounting Firms: Insights from Jennifer Wilson
If your firm’s growth has hit a plateau, you might be looking for answers in outsourcing or capital infusions. However, Jennifer Wilson suggests a different perspective: the primary constraint facing firm leaders today is the people-power behind the work. Success in the modern landscape is less about the "how" and entirely about the "who." Check out the blog to learn more.
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GYF Summit: Future of Professional Roundtable
02/26/2026
GYF Summit: Future of Professional Roundtable
Discover why industry leaders are feeling more optimistic than ever about the future of professional accounting. This roundtable discussion explores a pivotal shift from a culture of burnout toward one centered on high-value advisory and long-term client success. The experts dive into how emerging technologies like AI can automate compliance tasks and free up practitioners for strategic leadership roles. By embracing modern business models and intentional change management, firms can unlock new opportunities for growth and personal satisfaction.
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How Matt Gardner Scaled a Niche Accounting Firm Without Chasing Referrals
02/12/2026
How Matt Gardner Scaled a Niche Accounting Firm Without Chasing Referrals
Matt Gardner scaled Hiline by moving beyond referral-only growth and building systems designed to scale. By niching down, investing ahead of demand, restructuring sales roles, and embracing automation and technology, Hiline created a predictable growth engine that does not rely on founder hustle. Scaling an accounting firm beyond referrals is one of the hardest challenges firm owners face. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, Matt Gardner shares how Hiline grew by niching down, investing ahead of growth, and building a real go-to-market engine instead of relying on referrals or founder hustle. Resources: Matt Gardner’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgardnercpa/n
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Fixing Turnover and Capacity Problems Inside Growing Accounting Firms with Erin Daiber
01/29/2026
Fixing Turnover and Capacity Problems Inside Growing Accounting Firms with Erin Daiber
Growing accounting firms often misdiagnose turnover and capacity issues. Erin Daiber explains why these problems usually start at the partner level, how trust breakdowns create hidden churn, and what firms must fix first before hiring or offshoring. The firms that stabilize fastest focus on leadership alignment, clear expectations, and disciplined workflows. Resources: Erin Daiber’s LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/cpacoacherin
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How William Hamilton Breaks Down Pricing, Packaging, and Value for Accounting Firms
01/15/2026
How William Hamilton Breaks Down Pricing, Packaging, and Value for Accounting Firms
On an episode of the , David Cristello spoke with , founder of , about why pricing problems often sit underneath many operational issues firms experience. William has spent more than a decade studying how accounting firms price services and where those models tend to break down. Rather than focusing on theory, the conversation centered on how firms can think more clearly about pricing, packaging, and value in real client situations.
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How Justine Lackey Turned a Focused Bookkeeping Firm Into a Successful Exit
12/27/2025
How Justine Lackey Turned a Focused Bookkeeping Firm Into a Successful Exit
built a sellable firm by staying hyper focused on one service, one platform, recurring revenue, documented systems, and ethical leadership. Long before selling in 2023, her firm was structured to operate independently, making the transition successful for clients, employees, and buyers. Key Takeaways Focused service offerings help firms stand out in M&A discussions Recurring prepaid revenue improves cash flow stability Standardized systems support smoother transitions Ethical leadership enables better client and team outcomes during exits Reducing owner dependency supports long-term firm continuity
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AI Tools That Help Accounting Firms Scale Faster: Insights from Anderson Petergeorge
12/04/2025
AI Tools That Help Accounting Firms Scale Faster: Insights from Anderson Petergeorge
, co-founder of , explains how accounting firms can scale from startup to multi-million-dollar operations by using ChatGPT, meeting transcript tools, and modern ledgers. He argues that AI will not replace accountants but empower them to work faster, smarter, and more human. Key Takeaways Firms can reach $1M in revenue using basic AI tools like ChatGPT and meeting note automation. ChatGPT can write its own prompts and streamline advisory workflows. Meeting transcripts are valuable data for training staff and personalizing client experiences. Post-$1M, automation shifts toward system integrations and API connections between ledgers and workflow tools. The most successful firms blend AI efficiency with deep client relationships and niche expertise.
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The Future of Accounting Firms in an AI Driven World with Ryan Lazanis
11/07/2025
The Future of Accounting Firms in an AI Driven World with Ryan Lazanis
The accounting industry is changing faster than ever. Automation, artificial intelligence, and remote work are rewriting the way firms operate. Yet one principle remains clear: firms that balance technology with human connection will lead the next decade. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, Jetpack Workflow founder David Cristello talks with , founder of and one of the industry’s most forward-thinking voices. Ryan shares how a personal setback reshaped his approach to business, why human connection matters more than ever, and what accounting firm leaders should focus on in an AI-driven world.
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How Coaching Transforms Accounting Leaders: Lessons from Douglas Slaybaugh
10/23/2025
How Coaching Transforms Accounting Leaders: Lessons from Douglas Slaybaugh
began his career in public accounting at Arthur Andersen, where he admits he nearly lost his internship due to chronic lateness. Mentors stepped in and advocated for him, giving him another chance. That early experience showed him how powerful support and mentorship can be. As he advanced through his career and became a partner, Slaybaugh discovered that coaching people brought him more fulfillment than signing audit reports. He developed internal coaching programs for hundreds of employees, focusing on leadership and personal growth. In 2014, he made a bold decision to leave his partner role and launch , helping accounting leaders and executives achieve greater purpose and balance in their work.
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Firm as a Service: How Dark Horse is Transforming the Accounting Firm Model
08/22/2025
Firm as a Service: How Dark Horse is Transforming the Accounting Firm Model
Firm as a Service (FaaS) is a model that gives accountants the entire infrastructure of a firm technology, staffing, marketing, and support so they can focus on serving clients and scaling their practice. Unlike traditional partnerships or franchises, FaaS lets accountants retain ownership of their client base while benefiting from shared systems and resources. In a recent podcast, David Cristello, Founder of Jetpack Workflow, spoke with , CEO of Dark Horse, about how this approach is reshaping firm ownership.
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From CPA to Software Entrepreneur: How Ben Taylor Launched SoftLedger
08/04/2025
From CPA to Software Entrepreneur: How Ben Taylor Launched SoftLedger
In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello welcomes Ben Taylor, CEO of SoftLedger, to discuss the emerging trend of CPAs transitioning into technology entrepreneurs. With over a decade of experience as a practicing CPA, Ben shares his journey from accounting to software development, highlighting the growing interest among accountants in launching their own tech solutions. David and Ben explore examples of other industry leaders, such as Jackie Meyer and Kelly Mann, who have made similar transitions, and delve into the motivations behind this shift. This conversation offers valuable insights for ambitious accountants looking to innovate and expand their impact in the financial sector. Tune in to uncover the opportunities that lie at the intersection of accounting and technology! In a recent podcast episode featuring Ben Taylor, CEO of SoftLedger, the discussion highlights how many CPAs, including Ben himself, have experienced firsthand the limitations of existing accounting software. Ben's journey began about ten years ago while managing various areas in the accounting department of a small public company. Frustrated with the outdated and inefficient Microsoft Dynamics GP, which led to delays in financial reporting, he realized there had to be a better way to handle accounting processes. This frustration sparked the idea for SoftLedger. The episode also emphasizes that this trend is not isolated to Ben. Many other accountants have made similar transitions, moving from traditional firm roles to developing innovative software solutions. For instance, host David Cristello mentions several individuals who have successfully made this leap, including Jackie Meyer, Kelly Mann, and Hector Garcia. These examples illustrate a broader movement within the accounting profession, where practitioners leverage their industry knowledge to create tools that address specific pain points.
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Scaling Accounting & CAS Beyond $5M with Dave Olsen
06/28/2025
Scaling Accounting & CAS Beyond $5M with Dave Olsen
In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello welcomes Dave Olsen, founder of an accounting firm and Nimbl Staffing. Dave shares his unique journey in the accounting industry, discussing the success of his staffing service and his exciting new venture into IT services for accounting firms. The conversation delves into the strategies behind building a solid foundation for business growth, including the structures necessary for launching new services. Listeners will gain insights into the process of expanding a business and the importance of having the bandwidth to innovate. Tune in to discover how Dave navigates the challenges of running multiple services and what it takes to thrive in the accounting world.
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Navigating Talent Trends in CPA M&A with Geoff Bruskin
06/16/2025
Navigating Talent Trends in CPA M&A with Geoff Bruskin
In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Crostello welcomes back Geoff Bruskin, founder of White Tiger Connections, to discuss the evolving landscape of talent in the accounting profession. Geoff shares insights from his extensive experience in mergers and acquisitions (M&A) for CPA firms, emphasizing the growing importance of talent acquisition and retention in today's market. He outlines the dual trends of M&A and talent, as well as the impact of technology on these areas. Additionally, Geoff introduces his recent venture into business brokerage, helping CPA clients sell their businesses, further enhancing the services offered to the accounting community. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that explores how firms can leverage talent and technology to thrive in a competitive environment. Geoff Bruskin is a distinguished figure in the realm of mergers and acquisitions (M&A) within the accounting profession, known for his innovative approach to talent acquisition and business growth strategies. As the founder and leader of White Tiger Connections, Geoff has dedicated his career to facilitating transactions that empower CPA firms to thrive in an increasingly competitive landscape. His expertise extends beyond M&A; he is also a recognized authority in recruiting for the CPA profession, helping firms not only to grow through acquisitions but also to build robust teams that drive sustainable success.
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Unlocking the Secrets of Client Accounting Services with K.C. Eames
05/29/2025
Unlocking the Secrets of Client Accounting Services with K.C. Eames
In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello welcomes K.C. Eames, the Director of Client Accounting Services at Dark Horse CPAs. The conversation delves into the complexities of pricing in client accounting services (CAS) and the nuances that make it both an art and a science. K.C. shares insights about the unique structure of Dark Horse CPAs, contrasting it with traditional accounting firms that operate on a pyramid model. The episode emphasizes the importance of understanding both the quantifiable and intuitive aspects of pricing, particularly as firms navigate the evolving landscape of CAS best practices. Tune in to discover valuable strategies for enhancing your firm's operations and achieving your goals faster.
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The Billion Dollar Accounting CEO w/ Alan Whitman
05/15/2025
The Billion Dollar Accounting CEO w/ Alan Whitman
In this episode of the Growing Your Firm podcast, host David Cristello welcomes Alan Whitman, the former CEO and chairman of Baker Tilly. Alan shares his remarkable journey of transforming Baker Tilly from a $475 million firm to a $1.5 billion powerhouse. Throughout the conversation, Alan describes how businesses can thrive – largely by prioritizing strategy over aimless “accumulation.” Alan Whitman is a seasoned leader in the accounting and advisory industry, known for his transformative role as the former CEO and Chairman of Baker Tilly. As leader, he successfully scaled the organization from $475 million to $1.5 billion, demonstrating a keen understanding of strategic growth and operational maturity. Currently, Alan runs an advisory practice where he shares his expertise in scaling firms and implementing best practices for growth. He is a sought-after speaker and thought leader, regularly publishing insights on leadership and organizational development through his weekly newsletter. Alan is also active on LinkedIn, where he connects with professionals across the industry.
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How to Stay Focused and Become a 'Smarter Accountant' w/ Dawn Goldberg
05/01/2025
How to Stay Focused and Become a 'Smarter Accountant' w/ Dawn Goldberg
In this episode of the Growing Your Firm podcast, David Cristello welcomes , a seasoned CPA and a Certified Professional Coach. Dawn shares her incredible story of maintaining her productivity even after a stage four cancer diagnosis forced her to undergo six months of chemotherapy. To accomplish this, Dawn maintained some key practices – including mind management, time management, and a scheduling trick she calls “container calendaring.” She explains all of these strategies here. Throughout the conversation, Dawn highlights the significance of mindset in overcoming obstacles and achieving success. Are you an accountant seeking to enhance productivity and well-being? Then Dawn has solutions for you!
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The Right Way to Plan Accounting Compensation w/Dominic Piscopo
04/17/2025
The Right Way to Plan Accounting Compensation w/Dominic Piscopo
In this episode of the Growing Your Firm Podcast, host Dave Cristello welcomes , the founder of Big 4 Transparency. An expert in salary benchmarking within the accounting industry, Dominic shares insights into compensation strategies, year-over-year changes, and the impact of private equity (PE) on salaries. The conversation highlights the evolving landscape of compensation in accounting firms. Dominic Piscopo, CPA is known as a compensation guru in the accounting industry. After years of working as an accountant and financial analyst, he founded – which has served hundreds of thousands of CPAs by making salary data more visible. Dominic assists accounting firms by giving them a user-friendly dashboard for understanding industry trends around compensation. He’s also the host of the , where he interviews accounting industry insiders.
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