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ABSOLUTE. UTTER. CHAOS with Youngmi Mayer
04/21/2021
ABSOLUTE. UTTER. CHAOS with Youngmi Mayer
Comedian and podcast host Youngmi Mayer (Feeling Asian) joins Jenn to talk starting late, divorcing young, and mom’ing in a panic. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE BELOW FOLLOW YOUNGMI: Insta | Twitter | TikTok: @ymmayer FOLLOW JENN: Insta | Twitter: @jennwelchnow FOLLOW LADYHD: Insta | Twitter | TikTok: @ladyhdpod PRODUCED BY LEFT HANDED RADIO: Insta | Twitter: @lefthandedradio ***** LOVE THE PODCAST? WANT TO HELP SUPPORT PRODUCTION COSTS? Join and get sweet perks / goodies or Leave a tip in Very rough, not proofread, episode transcript: Jenn Welch 0:00 Hey friends If you liked ADHD and you want to support the podcast, go to patreon.com slash lady HD, there is tiers and levels and goodies and prizes. So check it out. This is where the theme song should go ba ba, ba ba ba, ba, ADHD. Oh my gosh, it's time I am here. I'm am I awake? I don't know, guys. It's lady HD, a podcast for distractible women. I'm your host, Jenn Welch I am. Ah, deep breath. That was more of an exhale. Okay, so I am here today with my guest who I'm so excited to have on the podcast. Because of for so many reasons, but especially because I won't get into it. But um, she has an amazing podcast called feeling Asian that she hosts with another very funny comedian named Brian Park. Um, and she is great. And everybody is clapping for you. Just a heads up. Everybody's so excited. It's like worrying, like the audience is so loud. It's guys. Here she is Youngmi Mayer. Yay. Hi. Youngmi Mayer 1:12 Hi, john. How are you? Jenn Welch 1:14 Oh my god. I'm here. How are you? Youngmi Mayer 1:20 I'm really good. I um, I had I had a like a zoom work call today one zoom meeting and it you know, it ruined my entire life. I'm completely wiped out. Jenn Welch 1:34 Yes. Was it same minute saying? Oh my god. Yeah. I if I have one thing on my to do list these days that involves interacting with another person. That's it. Like, I it's too much. Youngmi Mayer 1:47 Yeah, it's done. It's over. Yeah. And then I knew that I would. I was gonna do this with you at six. So like, starting at four, I started like, spiraling and being like, I can't do it. I gotta lay down in bed and just get ready for 6pm. Doing Jenn Welch 2:06 having, you don't have ADD? I don't know what you're talking about. I that's incredible. And yes, um, I Okay, before we get too far in, because I normally do this before we start and you might remember this from improv class, but um, I, I because we I like my conversations to be loosey goosey. And like, kind of just see where they go. So if at any point, we get to something where you're like, I don't want to talk about that, Jen. You can just yell boundaries. And I'll yell boundaries. And then we'll like cheer and move on. Because we celebrate boundaries in life. Okay, so that's just I'm putting that out there. So you know, if we get into anything weird, not like, I don't can't even imagine what we would get to that I would be like, but who knows? Some people have things where they're like, I don't want to talk about that in a podcast. You don't I mean, yeah, Youngmi Mayer 2:55 I have no boundaries. So it's probably not going to happen. I would be shocked if it happened. Giving me that option. Jenn Welch 3:03 Of course, of course, I'm. So we actually met a few years ago, when I was teaching improv, and you came in and you were a student. And you were so funny. Oh, you're so but you were so quiet. And I remember just being like, She's so funny. And then I remember you asking me like something about like, doing sketch comedy, or doing stand up and I was like, please do it, please do it, please do it. And then all of a sudden, I started seeing your name pop up everywhere. And I just have been like, over here just like kind of, not to be a creep. Okay, not to be a creep, but I've been, but I've been, you know, you keep track of certain people. And I've been over here just kind of like watching you like, like, blooming again, blossom, you know, and I it's just been so exciting to see. And I you're just like fucking killing it. And I think you're funnier than me. And, and that's true. I just want to put that out there. But like, Youngmi Mayer 4:10 you're allowed to have your feelings but you know, that doesn't mean that they're true. Jenn Welch 4:14 That's right. feelings aren't facts. But it's been so awesome to see cuz I just remember you being in class and and again, just like being this like, a quiet, like, certain students are just like quiet thunder, like, you know, like they're not that was like, outgoing. Like, I don't want to say you're not outgoing. Because clearly, you know, you know, whatever. But um, yeah, what Tell me tell me things. Youngmi Mayer 4:41 You know what's so crazy Jen? I like so I had this like whole so I started comedy very late. I'm like, old I'm like 36 I started when I was 33. I think I was in your class. Yeah. And it's like something I wanted to do all my life and it was like the sort of like, like something happened in therapy where I had like enough. epiphany and I was like, I gotta do this now whatever, right? And then, and now I'm like very loud and extrovert I'm like comfortable doing stand up, I can talk in front of a room of people clip just been doing it for three years, which isn't that long, but I've just been doing it every day. But I I, for most of my life until I was 33. I was like the person that you were describing, I was just very quiet and never said anything. I was really shy and, you know, like, like, anxious all the time. And he never talks out loud. And so it's interesting to hear you say that, because I forget so often that that I've only recently like, sort of come out of my shell. Jenn Welch 5:40 Yes. So here's that. Here's the thing that I don't tell you guys what I'm teaching. But I didn't start I may have mentioned this, but like, I didn't start doing improv. I was also a late joiner to The Club. I didn't start doing improv until I was 30. And I, I was writing comedy before that, but I avoided performing at all costs, because I hated being in front of people. And I hated like having to talk in front of a group. And, and I was so like, scared to like, talk in front of anybody. And then. And then I did improv, and I was like, holy shit. And then eventually, like, stand up was like what I wanted to be doing right. And that took me like, a few years to like, get there. So I didn't start stand up until I was 34. And, yeah, and I, I think I'm making assumptions. But I, I'm just going to talk about my experience. But when I started improv, also, it was because of a therapy session where we put together a SMART goal. And it like a SMART goal is like, specific, measurable. actionable, I think, realistic and timely, or something like that. Anyway, so so it was like, it's something you like, take an action on. It's realistic in like a reasonable amount of time. And so my SMART goal that we put together was for me to sign up for a level zero improv class. Oh, wow. Yeah. And that like, is just kind of like, what kicked it off. And I was. At that point, I was seven years into a while, I mean, three years into the marriage, but seven years into a very bad relationship. Wow. And so he was a musician, and everything revolved around him doing music. And so for me to like, do this was like a big deal. And that doing that class gave me confidence down the line, to be able to get out of that marriage and that situation. And like, basically, I don't even recognize who I was, anymore. Youngmi Mayer 7:52 Well, you know, that's, that's also very similar. I wasn't in a horrible relationship, but I wasn't in a long term relationship. I was married. Yeah. And, and I was supporting his career to, uh huh. And it wasn't a bad like, he is fine. But I just didn't want that role in life, like the caretaker role. And I think we were so used to that being like me being like, his manager or something. And I was like, I don't want to do this anymore. And then we got divorced. And then like, around the same time, I think I got divorced right after starting your class, I think that fall or the next spring or something like that. So. So that's so interesting that we have so many similarities. Jenn Welch 8:33 Yeah. Yeah. It's It's crazy how that like, and when I say it was like, a bad relationship. It was. It wasn't like, oh, he like MMA. I mean, yeah, yeah. But it was healthy for you. I was like, a shell of a person. Like, yeah, yeah. It was like a very, and a lot of it. Like, I mean, not a lot of it, but a big part of it was Unknown 8:57 I Jenn Welch 8:59 trying to, like, be a wife that he wanted me to be when I have ADHD and I'm constantly like, fighting against all of my, like, natural impulses to like, yeah, a wife who manages groceries and keeps the house clean and close and all of that stuff. Youngmi Mayer 9:22 I like don't know, when I wake up, I wake up every single day in a panic. Not sure what's gonna happen. Yeah, it's like so bad. And you know, I have a son and it's, I feel bad because I feel like he has like, he has some like, not behavioral issues, but he has like, he struggles with certain things at school because I think because of me, you know, not not to like be too hard on myself. But like, the teacher will be like, well, when's his bath time I'm like, I don't know. I don't even I sometimes I give him a bath. And I'm just like, like, sometimes at 9am sometimes At 3pm I like I don't you don't I mean, yeah, when When does he go to bed? And I'm like, ah, I swear he's sleepy at night. I was like, it's for what I'm trying to fix that for him. But like, oh, but I wanted to say the thing about the Epiphany, the thing that I had in my therapy session, it was really crazy. Because you you said, like, you set like an actionable goal or something like that. Yeah. What happened for me was like, my entire life. I always wanted to do comedy, right? Yeah. And I had literally never told a single person in my entire life. And then one day in therapy, my therapist was like, well, like, we were like, discussing these problems that I had with like, my ex husband or whatever. And then one day, she, I just was like, I've always wanted to be a stand up comedian. She was like, that's so weird. I've like never heard you say anything like that. You've never even said anything close to ever wanting to perform. I just said it out loud. Yeah, I was like, just like, oh, like, that's so weird. I've never heard any like, literally, but in the back of my head. I've been thinking about it for my entire life. Like I just heard myself. And so I said out loud, and literally that next day, I signed up for like, open mics, and I just started doing them every day. And it was like, yeah, it's not crazy. Jenn Welch 11:21 I love it. I know, right? It's like so scary to say that first thing I didn't tell anybody about the wanting to be a stand up thing until it was in 2004. When I told a friend while we were drunk at the Toronto Film Festival, I was working for a film studio at the time. And some friends of my husband, who are I mean, they weren't close friends, but he was acquaintances with the Lonely Island guys, Andy Samberg, and your Matt taccone. And the other guy. So they had just gotten hired on SNL. And I was so jealous and I didn't even want to be in SNL. I don't want to be on SNL, but I wanted to be doing comedy. And I just remember like drunkenly telling a co worker that I wanted to do stand up, and I was like, mortified that I even said anything. Words, you know, it was like, Oh, um, but I Yeah, and I think that there is something to be said about. I mean, at least in my experience, like, just because I got a late start, and because I know I want it so bad, because here's the thing like you. I mean, I'll speak for myself, but I think that you'll relate to this, like, we've had the experience in our adult life of not doing comedy. So no matter how bad comedy gets, it's never as bad as not doing comedy. Yes. I also, yeah. Youngmi Mayer 12:55 spend the rest of my life doing open mics and get hooked on, like getting booked on a bar show. That's so exciting for me to. Like, I never even thought that I was allowed to do what I wanted to do, you know, like, to go to the back of a bar and someone's do stand up in front of three people. That's amazing. Jenn Welch 13:17 And then those three people are gonna laugh at what I'm saying. And even if they don't laugh at what I'm saying, it's like, I it's like, Okay, well, that's still not worse than the worst, you know. Exactly. Yeah. I sometimes, like I just remember, like, maybe being around where you're at, in terms of like years having done comedy, and just walking around New York City and being like, in my head, like, I'm a comedian in New York City. I'm a comedian in New York City. And it's like, a lot of comedians are like, Oh, I suck. Oh, everything sucks. And I'm like, every day is a miracle. Like, every day that I am able to do this. It's like a miracle. Youngmi Mayer 13:58 That's how I feel. I'm like, this is I'm so grateful. I have that kind of moment. The summer before quarantine, so I can two summers ago now. Where I was booked on the show at the UCB Hell's Kitchen like that big theater. Yeah. And it was summer, right? It was like June. And I was like wearing like a sun dress or something. And I was walking there. And I was like, kind of late. So I was like, get out of my way. I'm a comedian. And I was in that moment. I was like, Oh my God, look at me like I'm wearing a sun dress. I'm walking through like New York, Manhattan in the summer. And I'm going to this big theater where I'm going to perform. That was my one little moment I had. It's all downhill from there, Unknown 14:41 baby. Jenn Welch 14:43 Love it. I love it. Oh, it's so good. I'm so glad I've been like wanting to talk to you about this, like forever, but it's like is the conversation worth it if we're not recording it for an audience, you know, so I'm glad we're finally in. work. I leave finally. situate Youngmi Mayer 15:01 that this is the first time we've talked since your class, right? So yeah, yeah, this is great. And then after we'll hang out. Jenn Welch 15:08 Yes. We will go for walks in the city and I will get outdoors. What? What's your dog? What's up everybody? Just imagine right now that young is holding a dog. Youngmi Mayer 15:18 A little Chihuahua. long haired Chihuahua. Her name is corn. Oh, and she's just beautiful bitch. Jenn Welch 15:26 beautiful little bit. Oh my god. I love her. I love her. Yeah. Um, back to AD add. You told me you got right. What are we talking about? You told me you got diagnosed. I I swear to God every day when I wake up. It's like I'm reinventing. Like, everything like that. Like, it's not like, Oh, you wake up, you get in the shower. And then you do this. And then you do that. It's like, I wake up and the possibilities are endless. And I'm frozen. It's like, yep, yeah. Okay, so anyways, nothing for three hours. Yep. I just want to say I relate to that. But you got diagnosed. You said earlier this year? No, Unknown 16:08 yeah. Youngmi Mayer 16:09 Wait, when? Well, I had like, what happened? God, I don't remember mice. So I had, okay, so my psychiatric journey, which is, you know, like the medical part, like, I obviously don't really like no, like, medication has ever worked for me. But it started with being diagnosed, diagnosed with depression. And, um, years ago. And then. And then, like this, I guess this is like, on unprofessional sort of diagnosis. But like years and years ago, in my early 20s, I did a lot of cocaine. And yeah. And like, for me, a lot of times I would do it and then I would fall asleep. Or I would feel like, I would feel like I did this. Maybe this is wrong. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this. But I, I am assuming that it's because I have ADHD, and it was sort of acting like, maybe like what Adderall does to Yeah, add? I don't know if that's correct. But I would just have a weird reaction to cocaine, like, a lot of times, it made me feel really calm, you know? Yeah. And then a lot of times, I would do a lot of it, I will talk a lot stuff. But like, sometimes it would just feel kind of different to me, I think, than other people. That is such an educated statements. I don't even know if that's Jenn Welch 17:26 accurate. But I felt like that's how a lot of people kind of find out it like a lot of people who are diagnosed. And when I say a lot of people these numbers are this is not scientific. But I hear for me, I read from a lot of people that I anecdotally, um, I mean, I noticed in college that whenever I did Adderall, did my friend's Adderall. I could actually, like, you know, it'd be party time, but I would be like, let's talk about the term papers we're supposed to be working on. Like, that's like, Youngmi Mayer 17:58 Yeah, I would do my roommates, Adderall, and I could sit down and do stuff. And I could never, I could never, you know, yeah. So then. So that's like, something I noticed just like by myself, and then, um, I just all the Add thing, I feel like it was meant. So like, I had a really bad psychiatrist, the one that I got all the antidepressants from, like, five, five or so years ago. And like, he sort of like mentioned it, but then I was sort of like, I didn't really like him. So I never really followed through and I stopped seeing him. And then, like I and I never in my head thought it was like something that was like, detrimental to my life. Like I thought it was like, it never really bothered me, like all these issues. But then during the pandemic, it's gotten completely out of hand. Like what you were saying about the sleeping thing. I sleep in two hour like patches. Yeah, I literally can't do one thing a day. Like I literally it would kill me to like, do one. I don't even know what I do. I do nothing. Yeah, worse. And then I get really overwhelmed. And then I get a bunch of anxiety. And then I'm always late, like I, um, I have this thing where like, I'll have to be somewhere in 15 minutes and I'll leave like 14 like what was one minute and I'm like, how did I think I was gonna get there and I just, I can't get out of I can't leave on time. Like, Jenn Welch 19:30 I know what that is. Once I'm out of my apartment, I tend to be kind of okay, as long as I didn't go someplace where I can settle in, right like if I were to say like say it's the old days and like the pits still open and maybe I would go in there and like work for a few hours and then I would have to go somewhere after that. I would be late to the thing I had to go to after that because I settled in and gotten comfortable or whatever. right but like leaving the apartment is a God dang nightmare. I I, I will not do anything for days. And then in the half hour before I need to go somewhere, I will suddenly be like, oh, now's the time to do all the things. Right? And yeah, I will start like, Oh, it's time to clean the oven. And it's like, no, it's not time to clean the oven. It's time to frickin go. And it's like, if my brain, okay, you know how like a dog sometimes, like when you went on, like, say you're taking your dog on a walk, and your dog happens to find like a sweet piece of pizza on the sidewalk in this one spot, right? One day, and you have to, like, get the piece of pizza out his mouth. Because it's like, No, no, no. But whatever. Um, I found that piece of pizza. And now every time you take your dog on the walk, it has to go check out that spot. Because one time there was pizza there. Right? Like, yeah, that is what my brain is like, with, with really quick commute times. Like, if one time I got from A to B, in a very short amount of time, like everything lined up, it just worked out. I do my brain, my brain is like, that's how long it takes. It takes that tiny amount of time to Yeah, Youngmi Mayer 21:10 I do that with my son's school. Because it's like, once we got an Uber...
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