Make Your Move with Gene Moran
Are you looking to make your next professional move? Perhaps you're transitioning out of a life of military service, or you've entered industry, or you’ve started a business and you're looking to navigate what comes next. On this show, Gene Moran, whose award-winning advisory work helps businesses achieve dramatic outcomes, has powerful conversations with individuals discussing the next move moves that mattered in their careers, and shares behind the scenes moves (big and small) that have allowed him, and his clients to really move the needle on success when selling to the federal government.
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#113: Radical Accountability and Leadership with Dave Rosenberg
01/27/2025
#113: Radical Accountability and Leadership with Dave Rosenberg
“I help them create what I call radical accountability. Quite simply, that's a business culture or culture…in anything, but I focus on business where the team willingly does what they need to do when they need to do it correctly." - Dave Rosenberg FEATURED GUEST Dave Rosenberg, a former U.S. Navy naval aviator, has built an impressive career in business leadership and consulting. With a mechanical engineering degree, he progressed from college sales roles to serving as president of multiple companies, including a large San Diego moving company, a telecom/IT services business he owned, and a kitchen and bath remodeling company. After a pivotal moment when a company he led was sold, Rosenberg transitioned into consulting and leadership training, developing the "Locked on Leadership" brand. He has since helped over 100 companies with their leadership challenges, emphasizing a philosophy that focuses on consistency, courage, and compassion. Currently based in San Diego, Rosenberg works as a leadership consultant and public speaker, specializing in creating what he calls "radical accountability" - building business cultures where teams willingly do what needs to be done. His approach draws heavily from his military experience, teaching leaders to get their teams to "act as if lives depend upon them even when only livelihoods do." Connect with Dave Rosenberg: KEY TAKEAWAYS Explore Dave's personal experiences that highlight how thinking about others can cultivate courage and challenge our values. His compelling anecdotes remind us of the transformative power of leading from the front and caring for your team. Learn about Dave’s approach to public speaking and coaching. Whether you’re already leading a team or aspiring to do so, he shares invaluable tips to help you become the leader your team deserves. Gain practical strategies for leadership success and hear stories that will resonate with veterans and business leaders alike. Don't miss out on Dave's top business tips for veterans interested in running their own businesses. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [05:24] Betting on yourself in business and leadership [11:30] Unexpected public speaking insights [15:51] Managing fear in uncertain situations [17:50] Radical accountability toward integrity and courage YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#112: Preparation and Networking in Military Transitions with Scott Hatzung
01/20/2025
#112: Preparation and Networking in Military Transitions with Scott Hatzung
"My network was probably not the strongest it could be. But the next thing was timing. Where my network was strong, there just weren't job opportunities at that time frame." - Scott Hatzung FEATURED GUEST Scott Hatzung is a seasoned professional with a distinguished 22-year career in the US Navy, transitioning from an enlisted aviation support equipment technician to an aviation maintenance officer. Originating from Detroit, Michigan, Scott honed his mechanical skills in his father's car shop before dedicating himself to military service, where he specialized in managing helicopters and unmanned aircraft systems and excelled in program and production management. A University of La Verne alum, Scott seamlessly shifted into leadership roles, leveraging his expertise to pursue a corporate career post-retirement. Currently based in San Diego, Scott's career pivot is characterized by a commitment to align personal values such as family, growth, and ambition with organizational culture, as facilitated by his experiences with the 4 Block and Commit Foundation programs. Connect with Scott Hatzung: KEY TAKEAWAYS The importance of having a solid transition plan and the role of networking. Organizations that can help veterans build networks and access career opportunities, like 4 Block and The Commit Foundation. How Scott balanced his military service with preparing for civilian life and his tactics for securing his dream geographical location. The significance of aligning your personal values with your chosen company's culture for a fulfilling career. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [03:56] Enlisted mechanic shifted focus to management. [13:02] Commit Foundation helps veterans identify personal values. [16:00] Availability boosts productive, varied job transition discussions. [17:36] Seeking career pivot from aviation maintenance. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#111: Finding Fulfillment Beyond Active Duty with Clint Musgrove
01/13/2025
#111: Finding Fulfillment Beyond Active Duty with Clint Musgrove
"Given my injuries, the kind of prognosis was you're never gonna walk normal again. You're gonna be basically confined to a pool for any type of physical activity because the impact is not gonna be something that that you're gonna be comfortable with." —Clint Musgrove FEATURED GUEST Clint Musgrove is a former Army medic who has successfully transitioned to civilian life, becoming an expert in incident response within the energy sector. He is recognized for having unique skills like combat lifesaver experience. After serving in the military, Clint ventured into executive protection before finding his calling in disaster and incident response, first at FEMA and now in the private sector. Clint is also a founding member of the Outlier Project, a diverse networking group that supports individuals across various sectors. His resilience and commitment to service have defined his post-military career, where he continues to contribute to the safety and security of critical energy infrastructure. Connect with Clint Musgrove: KEY TAKEAWAYS Transitioning from the military to civilian life can be challenging, but building a strong network is crucial. Joining groups like the Outlier Project can connect you with phenomenal individuals ready to support your journey. Whether it’s bouncing back from an unexpected career change or navigating the complexities of transition, persistence, and adaptability are essential in building a successful post-military career. Utilize the skills and experiences gained during military service to explore new pathways. Sometimes, unexpected opportunities, like my role in incident response, can align perfectly with your unique skill set. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [03:57] Profound global network fostering support and connections. [10:59] Network to understand agency needs and requirements. [19:03] Medical retirement process streamlined, but lingering challenges. [21:45] Determination drove successful recovery despite prognosis. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#110: Military Discipline Meets Business Acumen with Brett Whitsitt
01/06/2025
#110: Military Discipline Meets Business Acumen with Brett Whitsitt
"Once I was able to narrow the focus down in a pointed way is really when doors started opening up because people had something they could grasp onto and help in a more meaningful way as opposed to me just saying, hey, I'd like to get into finance." — Brett Whitsitt FEATURED GUEST Brett Whitsitt is a former Navy SEAL who has successfully transitioned from military service to become a business leader. Brett graduated from the Virginia Military Institute with a focus in economics and business, later furthering his education with an MBA from the Wharton School. After serving over eight years in the SEAL teams, during which he undertook deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, and dealt with counter-ISIS initiatives, Brett aimed towards a career in finance. He initially joined JPMorgan in the leveraged finance group while concurrently studying for his MBA. Brett is now the CEO and founder of Squire Solutions, a company he established around eight years ago, which focuses on streamlining communication and information flow during tactical operations. Brett's company has primarily worked with the Department of Defense, specifically the Air Force, and offers solutions in various tactical areas like medical evacuation and active shooter scenarios. His journey underscores the importance of taking advantage of networking opportunities and being open to learning and adapting in new environments. Connect with Brett Whitsitt: KEY TAKEAWAYS Brett shares his experience transitioning from an elite Navy SEAL to the business realm, emphasizing the importance of education and self-discovery. Discover how Brett founded Squire Solutions, a tech-forward company enhancing communication across tactical operations—revolutionizing sectors like public safety and emergency response. Learn about the pivotal role networking played in Brett's journey and how strategic connections shaped his career path., working as part of a team—even a small one—can amplify creativity, problem-solving, and overall success. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [04:36] Navy to finance, then entrepreneurship with Squire. [12:47] Served 8 years as Navy SEAL, inspired post-9/11. [13:49] Navy career stalled, explored other opportunities. [17:35] Deciding between locations for MBA and job. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#109: Building a Business After Service with Valerie Lavin
12/23/2024
#109: Building a Business After Service with Valerie Lavin
"It's the worst feeling, no matter how minor the incident is that you are witnessing, whether you come up on it or you're in the middle of it and just not be prepared to have, to be able to help." —Valerie Lavin FEATURED GUEST Valerie Lavin is a retired U.S. Army First Sergeant with over two decades of military service. Following her transition from active duty, Valerie embarked on a successful journey into entrepreneurship. She co-founded Luminary Global, a company that provides emergency and trauma kits to first responders, military personnel, and everyday households, catering to both beginner and experienced preppers. Valerie is deeply embedded in the veteran business community. She is passionate about aiding veterans in their post-military transitions, sharing her own experiences and lessons learned, particularly emphasizing the importance of building a strong business infrastructure and honest communication with clients. Connect with Valerie Lavin: KEY TAKEAWAYS Valerie's transition from military service to entrepreneurship highlights the importance of being adaptable. Despite unforeseen challenges like the pandemic, Valerie and her team pivoted and thrived. Valerie emphasized the necessity of having a solid infrastructure for a business. As business opportunities arise, having the right foundation ensures you can scale and succeed without faltering. As Valerie discovered, working as part of a team — even a small one — can amplify creativity, problem-solving, and overall success. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [05:44] Business challenges led to successful distributorship opportunities. [11:15] Military experience and agility set us apart. [17:36] Started a veteran staffing company; it failed. [21:57] Embrace personal growth; entrepreneurship reveals true self. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#108: From Marine to Business Strategist with Tyler Van Hook
12/16/2024
#108: From Marine to Business Strategist with Tyler Van Hook
“What we're mainly focusing on is digital transformation inside of the defense space, specifically with our training and education pipelines.” — Tyler Van Hook FEATURED GUEST Tyler Van Hook, Chief Strategy Officer and Co-founder of Kognitiv Edge, is a dynamic leader and entrepreneur with a rich background in military and business strategy. A former United States Marine Corps officer, Tyler leverages his expertise in technology application and human capital development to drive innovative digital transformations in defense training and education. With a Master’s in Technology Leadership from Brown University, he has successfully bootstrapped Kognitiv Edge alongside his wife, maintaining profitability while enhancing human potential through cutting-edge technology. Tyler continues to explore the intersections of technology, military acumen, and business innovation in the competitive defense landscape. Connect with Tyler Van Hook: KEY TAKEAWAYS Tyler’s connection with Scott Manthorne led to a significant opportunity. Building and nurturing networks can open unexpected doors. Recognizing the need for formal training, Tyler pursued a master’s degree to better understand technology's role in business. Continuous learning is crucial in adapting to new industries. Tyler emphasizes the importance of assessing your market effectively (TAM, SAM, SOM) and understanding the importance of balancing technology with human potential. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [09:14] Humbled by tech gap, pursued a master's program. [11:57] Take time before starting life's next chapter. [16:32] Defense investments rising due to limited VC options. [21:01] Fortunate for supportive network and family goals. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#107: Turning Combat Experience into Business Innovation with Matthew Griffin
12/09/2024
#107: Turning Combat Experience into Business Innovation with Matthew Griffin
"Find mentors that are actually using their own money to run a business. Don't listen to the professors who left business to go teach in school. Follow somebody who's actually using real cash and real coin to do it." — Matthew Griffin FEATURED GUEST Matthew "Griff" Griffin, a former Army Ranger and veteran turned entrepreneur, is the founder of Combat Flip Flops, a company that fosters economic growth in post-conflict areas by manufacturing products like flip flops in unconventional locations, such as a combat boot factory in Afghanistan. After serving as a fire support officer and headquarters platoon leader, Griff transitioned into business, working with Syntex Homes and Remote Medical International before launching his own ventures. Now based in Volcano, Hawaii, he is involved in creating an organic tea farm, supporting local sustainability, and championing mentorship to guide aspiring entrepreneurs with actionable advice. Connect with Matthew Griffin: KEY TAKEAWAYS Griff shares his incredible journey from the military to the world of business, emphasizing the impact of entrepreneurship on global security. Discover how he made the transition to launch Combat Flip Flops, a unique company that manufactures products in post-conflict zones to support local economies. Gain insights into the value of mentorship and the role it plays in entrepreneurial success. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [04:35] Found perfect home on remote Hilo side. [12:59] Small businesses provide security and economic growth. [21:43] Disillusioned with military ethics and drone strikes. [25:14] Value mentors' time; follow advice and update. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#106: Utilizing Military Experience in Corporate America with Heather Throne
12/03/2024
#106: Utilizing Military Experience in Corporate America with Heather Throne
“For anybody coming out of the military, reach out, build your network, and connect. Because wearing the uniform, hanging it up, and putting on the corporate America collared shirt…it's different.” — Heather Throne FEATURED GUEST Heather Throne is a seasoned business professional with over two decades of experience in the corporate sector. A former U.S. Army helicopter pilot and logistician, she transitioned from military service to the corporate world, bringing her leadership skills and analytical expertise to Siemens Healthineers. As a senior director focused on CRM excellence and commercial operations, Heather plays a pivotal role in enhancing sales processes globally within Siemens' healthcare division. Her corporate journey began with the assistance of veteran placement organizations like the Lucas Group, which helped her translate military skills into civilian business acumen. Heather is known for her ability to lead diverse virtual teams, leveraging her background in military leadership to foster teamwork and deliver results under pressure. Connect with Heather Throne: KEY TAKEAWAYS Heather emphasizes the transferability of military skills to the corporate sector. Leadership, teamwork, and the ability to perform under pressure are qualities that make veterans valuable assets to any organization. LinkedIn is a powerful tool for career advancement. Heather advises veterans to leverage LinkedIn to build meaningful connections and expand their professional tribe. Heather believes in making thoughtful choices rather than seeking perfect balance. It's about prioritizing decisions that align with both personal and professional goals, leading to more fulfilling outcomes. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [03:17] From military to project management leadership role. [06:26] Veterans' skills are valued more by businesses today. [12:47] Build networks for mutual growth and understanding. [19:21] Life involves making choices, not balancing everything. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#105: Military Experience Shaping Leadership with Tracey Jones
11/25/2024
#105: Military Experience Shaping Leadership with Tracey Jones
“I think in today's culture, the military teaches you sacrifice, conscientiousness, duty, work ethic, being open to trying new things, being a part of something other than yourself." — Tracey Jones FEATURED GUEST Dr. Tracey C. Jones is a renowned leader, author, and advocate for veterans transitioning to civilian careers. A distinguished Air Force Academy graduate and former officer, she brings extensive expertise from roles with organizations like Northrop Grumman and the NSA to her work at Tremendous Leadership and T3 Solutions, Inc. Through her books and engaging speaking style, Tracey offers actionable strategies that blend leadership principles, humor, and diagnostic tools. She champions lifelong learning, resilience, and community engagement, continuing the philanthropic legacy of her father, Charlie “Tremendous” Jones. Passionate about empowering individuals and organizations, she supports tailored training and coaching initiatives that drive meaningful impact. Connect with Tracey Jones: KEY TAKEAWAYS Tracey opens up about the thrilling and complex nature of entrepreneurship, likening it to her military experiences. With a significant emphasis on helping veterans transition to civilian life, Tracey believes veterans possess unique skills that make them invaluable in the workforce. For Tracey, retirement isn't about slowing down. It's a continuation of staying active and purposeful. Reflecting on her journey as one of the early women attendees at the Air Force Academy. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [04:11] Military teaches sacrifice, duty, and work ethic. [09:27] Entrepreneurship parallels military excitement and challenges. [14:13] Military experiences shaped leadership and followership perspectives. [21:45] Comfortable being the few females in male environments. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#104: Addressing Vicarious Trauma in Veterans with Tammy Laird
11/18/2024
#104: Addressing Vicarious Trauma in Veterans with Tammy Laird
“When you're an empath, you feel what they feel. So, I carried a lot of their stuff, which you shouldn't do. But when you don't know what else to do, and you love them so fiercely, you end up carrying their stuff anyway because you're like, “God, how can I help?” - Tammy Laird FEATURED GUEST Tammy Laird is a veteran who has served in both the Army Reserves and the Air Force, with a particular sentiment towards the Army. She comes from a military family, with her father having served in the Air Force. Tammy has a diverse background, including roles as a wife, mother, homeschool mom, and children's author. Currently, she is deeply invested in helping veterans and first responders heal from trauma through a Christian faith-based nonprofit organization called Healing the Hero. Her efforts focus on addressing post-traumatic stress, anxiety, depression, and other negative emotions in veterans, first responders, and their families. Tammy's passion for this work stems from her empathetic nature and her experiences throughout her military career, where she witnessed the traumatic effects on her peers and friends. Connect with Tammy Laird: KEY TAKEAWAYS Tammy’s inspiring transition story and how her military experiences shaped her new career path. The importance of not comparing oneself to others and how everyone has their own battles. Insight into vicarious trauma and Tammy's dedication to healing heroes. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [06:07] Empathic awareness of behavioral changes in others. [09:43] Joining the army felt like God's plan. [12:15] Army reserves offered guaranteed job security. [17:31] Empaths carry others' burdens and seek to help. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#103: Turning Challenges into Business Opportunities with Garth Massey
11/11/2024
#103: Turning Challenges into Business Opportunities with Garth Massey
“The studies show us that people who talk about doing the right thing, whatever that is—whatever your moral code is, the people who talk about it, tend to make more moral, correct, right decisions." — Garth Massey FEATURED GUEST Colonel Garth Massey is an accomplished Marine Corps infantry officer and reservist with a unique ability to blend military discipline with business acumen, fostering impactful leadership across both military and corporate landscapes. With extensive global experience, Colonel Massey has honed strategic communication and networking skills that set him apart as a dynamic connector between military and civilian sectors. Known for his hands-on, story-driven approach, Garth empowers leaders at every level through his professional development programs, designed to deliver practical, immediately applicable lessons. Through his work with CommandReady, he equips professionals to actively engage in their growth, try out innovative ideas, and cultivate resilience, effectively bridging the worlds of military rigor and corporate agility. His dedication to fostering strong, adaptive leadership has made him a respected authority for those seeking transformative, action-oriented guidance. Connect with Garth Massey: KEY TAKEAWAYS Garth unpacks the challenges and triumphs of moving from military service to entrepreneurship. Discover Garth's philosophy on leadership and how understanding the four levels of learning—information, habits, workshops, and vision—can transform your business strategies. Learn how meaningful connections and referrals play a pivotal role in Garth’s success as well as in broader business landscapes. Garth shares the importance of character and virtue in shaping successful business practices and personal growth. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [05:01] Authority needed to execute ideas. [13:16] Leadership adapts at different levels. [16:35] Seek intentional discomfort. [21:40] Discuss ethics regularly and improve decision-making. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#102: Overcoming and Preventing Burnout with Larisa Harrington
11/04/2024
#102: Overcoming and Preventing Burnout with Larisa Harrington
“I had to get out of my comfort zone and start to network outside of the military because I'd only known that for so long. It was a whole new world for me to connect with all sorts of different people who didn't know anything about my background.” — Larisa Harrington. FEATURED GUEST Larisa Harrington is an Executive Leadership and Well-Being Coach, Consultant, Trainer, and Speaker with over two decades of experience helping purpose-driven professionals enhance performance and well-being. A 20-year Air Force veteran, Larisa served in various roles supporting the intelligence community, where she gained a deep understanding of how high-pressure, mission-critical environments affect productivity, effectiveness, and health. Her military service included working in high-stakes operations, requiring resilience and mental clarity, which informs her current work in mindfulness, emotional intelligence, somatic trauma healing, conscious leadership, and burnout prevention. She now supports individuals and organizations committed to creating lasting impact and excellence. Connect with Larisa Harrington: KEY TAKEAWAYS Discover Larisa's strategic approach to networking while on active duty and how you can leverage your connections for business success. Larisa brings her expertise in stress management and burnout prevention. Find out how you and your team can perform and feel better without burning out. She candidly shares her journey of turning her passion into a thriving business and the importance of continuous learning and adapting to your entrepreneurial trajectory. Larisa gives invaluable advice on business ownership for those on active duty, emphasizing the importance of community, mentorship, and resources. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [04:34] Retired, started business, met diverse people. [08:42] Tailored wellness and coaching sessions, customized per client. [16:56] Utilize resources, network, and seek support. [18:42] Military members struggle with self-care and support. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#101: Civilian Success and Financial Freedom with John Lee Dumas
10/28/2024
#101: Civilian Success and Financial Freedom with John Lee Dumas
"I'm going to find the geniuses of old, the geniuses of today in the business sense, both men and women, and I'm gonna learn from them. I'm going to listen to their words. I'm going to read their words. I'm going to consume and absorb their strategies, their tactics, their tips, and I'm going to become better for it." — John Lee Dumas FEATURED GUEST John Lee Dumas, a former active duty officer from 2002 to 2006 and a subsequent reservist, found himself at a crossroads six years after leaving the military. He felt he hadn't reached the personal and professional milestones he saw for himself. This sparked a journey of self-education, prompting JLD to immerse himself in books, podcasts, and self-directed learning. Through this "self-university," he aimed to equip himself with the knowledge and skills necessary to achieve his goals and fulfill his potential in the civilian world. Connect with John Lee Dumas: KEY TAKEAWAYS JLD's experience highlights the challenges veterans face transitioning to civilian jobs, struggling with fulfillment due to differing work ethics and environments between military and corporate life. His military background helped him excel in corporate roles initially, utilizing discipline and focus. JLD leveraged his experiences to create the successful "Freedom Journal" and "Mastery Journal," helping people achieve their goals through productivity and focus. "Entrepreneurs on Fire" has grown remarkably, recording 4,400 episodes and reaching 175 million downloads, demonstrating the viability of podcasts. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [00:00] Generous networker; inspiring and genuine persona. [08:23] Ultimate sacrifice reshaping the civilian perspective. [14:50] Corporate finance lacked fulfillment in a post-military career. [22:45] Puerto Rico offers tax incentives for businesses. [27:12] Transparency for aspiring entrepreneurs, sharing journey openly. YOUR MOVE Connect with Gene: Check Out These Resources: by Scott Manthorne
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#100: 100 Episodes of Connecting Veterans with Gene Moran
10/14/2024
#100: 100 Episodes of Connecting Veterans with Gene Moran
“As I looked around, I saw that there were many others. The overwhelming majority who leave active duty find that within 3 years, they're on to something else because they perhaps made the wrong choice or they didn't recognize that the fit wasn't right." — Gene Moran In this episode of Make Your Move, I’m turning the tables and will be interviewed by Lisa Larter because, surprise, I’m also featured in . You can read my story in Scott Manthorne’s book in chapter 13. I want to take a moment to celebrate this significant milestone: this is my 100th episode. It's been quite the journey, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to share stories and insights from some pretty amazing guests. I'm filled with gratitude and excitement for what's ahead. I've had the privilege of interviewing some outstanding individuals. Tune in this week as I highlight just some of the spectacular guests I’ve had the pleasure of speaking to: Lori Drowdy, Misty Cook, and Michelle Mace Curran. Their journeys from military roles into successful civilian careers have left a lasting impression on me and many listeners. Podcasting is a privilege, and I believe it allows us to give back to the community by providing a platform for stories that might otherwise go unheard. I hope these stories inspire and connect with each of you, creating conversations and offering guidance for those navigating similar paths. Visit , read Scott Manthorne's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Podcast Impact and Themes Challenges and Enhancements Future Directions and Goals Personal Experience Reflection YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit
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#99: Fighter Pilot to Influential Speaker with Michelle Curran
10/07/2024
#99: Fighter Pilot to Influential Speaker with Michelle Curran
“Once I was there, I got to see just how impactful interacting with people could be, especially little girls and young women. I loved that part of the job. It was the most rewarding and most fulfilling part.” — Michelle Curran In this episode of Make Your Move, you'll hear from an extraordinary force of nature, Michelle "Mace" Curran. Michelle's career is awe-inspiring as a former Air Force F-16 fighter pilot and elite Thunderbird demonstration pilot. She's carved a place in aviation history, proving there is no limit if you push the boundaries of what's possible. You can also dive into her story in by Scott Manthorne, chapter 32. Becoming a Thunderbird is a challenge few can meet—it's a test of skill, grit, and relentless dedication. Michelle recounts the focus and support it took to earn her place on this prestigious team. Her journey didn't stop when she hung up her flight suit. Transitioning into public speaking, she had to master a completely different set of skills and learn to connect with audiences in a new way. Her transition will leave you intrigued and inspired. Michelle's authenticity shines through as she shares the honest truth. Success on stage required as much discipline as her time in the cockpit; she embraced the need for growth. Listen to the full episode to hear her story of continual evolution, from the adrenaline of fighter jets to the excitement of inspiring others from the stage. Visit , read Scott Manthorne's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Transition to Post-Military Career A Speaker's Craft and Business Discussion on Thunderbirds Business Advice and Networking YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit Connect with Michelle Curran on , , or at
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#98: Steering Small Business into Big Defense with George Kovatch
09/30/2024
#98: Steering Small Business into Big Defense with George Kovatch
"It is a critical part of the system, and it really is about education and awareness. Lobbying is just another piece of that, and I don't think people should be afraid of it." — George Kovatch In this episode of Make Your Move, I’m chatting with another second-timer on the show, George Kovatch, a U.S. Coast Guard veteran. You can find his section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 14. George is not only an accomplished mariner but also a seasoned expert at the senior levels of government, with extensive experience in Congress and the appropriations field. Since transitioning from active duty, George has successfully launched and grown his own business, advising companies on navigating the complex Washington environment. George shares the nuances of defense budgeting, financial management, and his transformative journey from military service to entrepreneurship. You’ll also hear his thoughts on the evolving landscape of defense innovation, with the crucial role of small, agile companies in driving technological advancements. Listen to the full episode to hear the lessons learned from George's impressive career. Visit , read Scott Manthorne's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Lobbying and Business Development Transformations and Future Directions in Defense Navigating the Defense Market Networking and Mentorship YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit . Connect with George Kovatch on or at
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#97: Strategies for Veteran Startups with Brendan Aronson
09/23/2024
#97: Strategies for Veteran Startups with Brendan Aronson
“One of the biggest mistakes I see military veteran founders make, influenced by Shark Tank, is that they think to themselves, ‘Okay, I've got this idea. Now I have to raise capital in order to build the final iteration of the product, and then I can go out and sell it.’" — Brendan Aronson In this episode of Make Your Move, I’m chatting with Brendan Aronson, a United States Marine Corps veteran. You can find his section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 3. Brendan shares his transition from the Marine Corps to the civilian business world and the importance of cultural fit and choosing your company wisely. You’ll also hear about his experience headhunting for military veterans and his role at Context Ventures, a venture capital fund investing in military veteran entrepreneurs. One of the standout lessons Brendan shares is the misconception, fueled by shows like “Shark Tank,” that starting a business begins with raising capital. Instead, his advice for entrepreneurs is to focus on proving demand and generating traction first, even if their initial solutions are rudimentary. Listen to the full episode to hear Brendan's journey from Marine to successful entrepreneur and venture capitalist. Visit , read Scott Manthorne's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Understanding the Financial World and Startups Challenges of Startups and Entrepreneurship Mentorship and Influence Business Advice and Sales YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit Connect with Brendan Aronson on or at
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#96: Healing Through Psychedelic Therapy with Vian Morales
09/16/2024
#96: Healing Through Psychedelic Therapy with Vian Morales
"There's been an incredible amount of research on the power of psilocybin and other psychedelics in supporting PTSD, anxiety, and depression, as well as discovering joy and finding clarity in life." - Vian Morales In this episode of Make Your Move, I’m sitting down with Vian Morales, a veteran of the US Army and currently the Senior VP of Operations at Beckley Retreats. You can find her section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 49. Vian shares her journey from serving in the military to her role at Beckley Retreats, where they coordinate transformative experiences with the use of psychedelics like psilocybin. She shares the incredible impact these retreats have on veterans suffering from PTSD and those simply seeking clarity and connection while also debunking common misconceptions about psychedelic therapy. When you listen in, you’ll also hear her share her personal journey through mental health challenges. Vian’s mission is to support underserved communities, and Beckley Retreats is working to make these experiences accessible to even more people. Listen to the full episode to hear how plant medicines and mindfulness practices are reshaping the traditional view of mental health treatment. Visit , read Scott Manthorne's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Psychedelics and Their Use in Therapy Structure of the 11-Week Program Post-Retreat Experience Financial Accessibility and Insurance Coverage YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit Connect with Vian Morales on or at
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#95: Resilient Leadership of the Warrior Advisor with Suzanne Lesko
09/09/2024
#95: Resilient Leadership of the Warrior Advisor with Suzanne Lesko
"I learned resiliency or the art of resiliency — bouncing back from any adversity and things that come your way." — Suzanne Lesko In this episode of Make Your Move, I’m speaking with Suzanne Lesko, a former naval aviator who retired as a Navy Captain after 26 years of service. You can find her section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 42. Suzanne opens up about her journey from naval aviator to public speaker, sharing how vulnerable you can feel being on stage and how she developed her keynote, "The 8 Superpowers of the Resilient Leader: Tales of the Warrior Advisor." Hear her thoughts on the art of "failing forward fast" and how military experience can bring valuable insights to the world of business. You’ll also learn the story behind her call sign, ”Xena,” and her mentors, who have made a life-changing impact along the way. Listen to the full episode to hear about her experiences in naval aviation and public affairs and her transition into civilian life. Visit , read Scott Manthorne's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Resilience and Keynote Speaking Mentorship and Learning from Military Experience Call sign "Xena" Leadership in the Military YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit . Connect with Suzanne Lesko on .
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#94: From the Battlefield to Being a Boss with Stacy Raske
09/02/2024
#94: From the Battlefield to Being a Boss with Stacy Raske
“It's a game changer being able to step into a place of owning and embodying clarity and confidence because I know who I am. Confidence is a result of knowing who you are." — Stacy Raske In this episode of Make Your Move, I’m chatting with brilliant Stacy Raske, a US Army veteran turned successful entrepreneur. You can find her section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 41. Stacy has a passion for coaching and helping visionary leaders optimize their performance through business systems and automation. She opens up about how confidence and community have impacted her success as an entrepreneur. Stacy also shares her personal experiences from her time in the military, her transition to civilian life, and the valuable lessons she's learned in entrepreneurship. She emphasizes the importance of clarity, confidence, and simplifying success instead of overcomplicating it. Listen to the full episode to hear Stacy’s inspiring story, filled with practical advice, valuable insights, and how she has made an impact. Visit , read Scott Manthorne's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE The Transition to Entrepreneurship Business Lessons and Principles Ideal Clients and Lead Generation Mentors and Influential Individuals YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit . Connect with Stacy Raske on or at
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#93: Finding Purpose After Service with Diana Villa
08/26/2024
#93: Finding Purpose After Service with Diana Villa
"I had to become an advocate for myself and for him. Then he saw what I was doing, and slowly he started tagging along, taking care of himself, and placing a lot of effort into his recovery." — Diana Villa In this episode of Make Your Move, Diana Villa, former Army, shares her incredible story of resilience. You can find her section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 10. Diana is a former military medic who served four years in the Army before becoming a military spouse. She and her husband both joined the military at 17 and spent 20 years in the service. After her husband was medically discharged, they struggled with a difficult transition. Diana shared how they had both lost their identities and talked openly about the journey to rediscovering themselves. Listen to the full episode to hear Diana's story of growing up in the military and how she and her husband navigated being separated from the life they knew without military support. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Diana's Military Journey and Transition to Civilian Life Support and Resources During the Transition Future Career Paths and Volunteer Work Resilience and Recommended Actions YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on genemoran.com/e93 Connect with Gene on or visit . Connect with Diana Villa on or at
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#92: Skydiving Across the Globe with Mike Sarraille
08/19/2024
#92: Skydiving Across the Globe with Mike Sarraille
"America totally gets it wrong. Warriors prevent war. It's through peace and strength that nobody will want to even step up against our nation." - Mike Sarraille In this episode of Make Your Move, you'll hear from Mike Sarraille, former U.S. Navy SEAL Officer. You can find his section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 33. Beyond his successful military career, Mike Sarraille has not slowed down one bit. From taking on ambitious projects like the Triple 7 Expedition, involving skydiving on 7 continents in 7 days, or producing a documentary film highlighting the stories of fallen heroes, his story is one that's truly inspiring. Listen to the full episode to hear the challenges and successes Mike faced when transitioning from military service to the business world. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Mike Sarraille's Business Ventures Balancing Work and Drive The Transition from Active Duty Sarraille's Work in Higher Education YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit . Connect with Mike Sarraille on or at
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#91: Leadership and Network-Building with Kirsten Campbell Brunson
08/12/2024
#91: Leadership and Network-Building with Kirsten Campbell Brunson
"I am an extrovert. So, I meet people all the time. I can meet you at the gas station, and I'll learn about your life story. I talk to people." - Kirsten Campbell Brunson In this episode of Make Your Move, you get to hear from Kirsten Campbell Brunson, former Judge Advocate General in the US Army. You can find her section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 23. Not only is Kirsten an accomplished military veteran, but she is a senior military spouse, an expert in military justice, and serves as a chair leader for multiple organizations. Kirsten has this amazing ability to connect with people and get to know them quickly, which has helped her build a large, supportive network. Listen to the full episode to hear about some of Kirsten’s achievements and her advice for those navigating transitions and careers post-military. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Transitioning from Active Duty Networking and Mentoring Kirsten's Decision To Retire Importance Of Building A Network YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit . Connect with Kirsten Campbell Brunson on or at
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#90: Post-Military Business Ventures with Misty Cook
08/05/2024
#90: Post-Military Business Ventures with Misty Cook
“What you need is somebody to help you navigate building the business, getting your LLC, a domain, a CRM, and then starting to brand yourself so people know that you're out there." - Misty Cook In this episode of Make Your Move, you get to hear from a special repeat guest Misty Cook, United States Marine Corps. You can find her section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 34. Misty shares her inspiring journey of transitioning from active duty to building a successful consulting business. As a consultant herself, Misty provides guidance and advice to retired generals and flag officers, helping them navigate the transition to independent consulting. She shares her unique approach to building a support team for these individuals, and the challenges they face in finding their place in the civilian business world. Listen to the full episode to hear how Misty inspires veteran entrepreneurs, showcasing the power of mentorship, the importance of staying focused, and the impact of effective networking in building a successful post-military career. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Misty's Network of Generals Expectations in Consulting Mentors and Key Individuals Advice for Veterans YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit Connect with Misty Cook on or at
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#89: From Smuggler to Mind Coaching with Robert Hamilton Owens
07/29/2024
#89: From Smuggler to Mind Coaching with Robert Hamilton Owens
“We took off from the Canary Islands, and, two and a half days in, we hit a storm that had waves 3 stories high for 3 days straight, cresting and breaking down on the boat." — Robert Owens In this episode of Make Your Move, I chat with Robert Owens, a former Air Force Special Forces Operator. You can find his section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 38. Robert has defied expectations with a journey unlike any other. He shared some monumental moments in his life, from rowing across the Atlantic at age 71 to his diverse experiences in the military, coaching, smuggling, and pro-democracy work. Robert has embraced challenges and stayed relevant throughout his life’s different chapters. Listen to the full episode to learn about Robert's fascinating life and discover the power of resilience, dedication, and an unwavering spirit to achieve the extraordinary. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Robert’s Military and Covert Operations Experience Mentors and Personal Development Mental Resilience and Coaching Personal Evolution and Positive Changes YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit . Connect with Robert Hamilton Owen’s on or at
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#88: Leveraging Military Skills in Business with Sal Filardi
07/22/2024
#88: Leveraging Military Skills in Business with Sal Filardi
"The most important part of being a Green Beret is being able to build trust with somebody who you might not have anything in common with." — Sal Filardi In this episode of Make Your Move, I spoke with Sal Filardi, a former US Army Special Operator. You can find his section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 39. Sal shared valuable insights about the intersection of military service, networking, and business. His experiences, from the military to his current role at , are a great lesson for individuals navigating the transition from military service to the business world. Listen to the full episode to hear how Sal embraces discomfort and pushes himself beyond perceived limits. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Special Forces and Networking Greencastle Consulting and Business Ventures Career Preparation and Decision-Making Lessons and Advice for Career Transitions YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit . Connect with Sal Filardi on or at
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#87: Embracing Your Warrior Spirit with D.J. Vanas
07/15/2024
#87: Embracing Your Warrior Spirit with D.J. Vanas
“We have these networking opportunities all around us, all the time. If you do it with intention, you’ll find that you’re surrounded by a wealth of moments that you can leverage to make connections with people that you otherwise wouldn't.” - D.J. Vanas In this episode of Make Your Move, I sat down with D.J. Vanas, an Air Force veteran turned professional public speaker. You can find his section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 11. Our conversation surrounded numerous aspects of D.J.'s career, focusing on his work as a speaker, his approach to networking, the impact of COVID-19, and his advice for military veterans transitioning to civilian life. He provides a compelling perspective on leadership, resilience, and adaptability principles drawn from his experiences as an Air Force veteran and professional public speaker. Listen to the full episode to hear his intentionality with networking, how he combines education and entertainment in public speaking, and the invaluable lessons he learned navigating unprecedented challenges. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE D.J. Vanas' Business and Speaking Engagements The Transition from Military to Post-Active Duty Life Adapting and Reinvention During Challenging Times Success and Strategies in Public Speaking YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit . Connect with D.J. Vanas on or at
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#86: Piloting The Shift From Jets to Cargo with Dallas Jamison
07/08/2024
#86: Piloting The Shift From Jets to Cargo with Dallas Jamison
“Even though I loved my time in the Navy, it was awesome to be able to close that book, put it up on the shelf, and leave it for what it is to start a whole new chapter in my life where I'm able to have tons of family time and live a civilian lifestyle while still being able to fly.” - Dallas Jamison In this episode of Make Your Move, I sat down with Dallas Jamison, a former F18 Navy pilot who transitioned from military aviation to commercial flying with FedEx. You can find his section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 9. Dallas shared his journey transitioning from military aviation to becoming a FedEx captain. His decision to pursue commercial aviation post-retirement from the Navy was driven by his passion for flying and the opportunities it offered for work-life balance. His experience underscores the value of resilience, networking, mentorship, and leveraging skills across sectors when navigating significant career changes. Listen to the full episode to hear the valuable insights and inspiration from Dallas for professionals navigating their own career transformations. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE The Transition from Military to Commercial Aviation Evaluating Career Options and Transition Decisions Transitioning to New Aircraft and Mentorship Business Lessons Learned from the Civilian Sector YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit .
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#85: Riding the Waves of Business with James "Bart" Bartelloni
07/01/2024
#85: Riding the Waves of Business with James "Bart" Bartelloni
“Being a business developer, I've been able to be on the cutting edge of where business is going, the effects of technology, and trying to hone in a targeting strategy for a company to go and sell their product in the marketplace." - James "Bart" Bartelloni In this episode of Make Your Move, I'm sitting down with James "Bart" Bartelloni, a former Tomcat pilot turned business developer and passionate surfer. You can find his section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 17, on page 63. Our conversation surrounds Bart's career transitions, the importance of building relationships in business development, and the transformative power of surfing in both his personal and professional life. His fervent love for surfing and the positive impact it has on his life and the lives of fellow veterans shows the power of nature and finding profound joy beyond your profession. Listen to the full episode to explore Bart’s journey and discover the dynamic intersection between career moves, veteran advocacy, and the pursuit of passion and joy in life. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Bart Bartelloni's Career Journey Risk and Network Connections in Career Transitions Personal Development and Surfing Work-Life Balance and Joy YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit Connect with James "Bart" Bartelloni on or at or
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#84: Navigating Leadership and Business with Tameka Rushing
06/24/2024
#84: Navigating Leadership and Business with Tameka Rushing
"I've experienced all types of leaders. Good, bad, in between. I've seen how bad leadership affects people and their health. What it can do to the body through stress." -Tameka Rushing In this episode of Make Your Move, I'm chatting with Tameka Rushing, a 21-year Air Force veteran and CEO of Glass Half Full Solutions. You can find her section in by Scott Manthorne in chapter 43, on page 139. The discussion revolved around her journey from military service to entrepreneurship and the importance of networking in finding success. Tameka shed light on the challenges and opportunities that come with transitioning from the military into the civilian business world and the critical role of passion and networking in this process. Listen to the full episode to hear Tameka’s inspiring story, filled with practical guidance for those navigating this phase of their lives. Visit , read Scott's , and listen to each weekly episode of Make Your Move to learn more. By challenging your assumptions and understanding the incredible impact veterans have and continue to have, we can create a better future for all of us. WHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE Military Network and Transitioning The Evolution of Tameka's Business Mentorship and the Impact of Leadership Tameka's Engagement with the Local Chamber of Commerce YOUR MOVE Get all the resources from this episode on Connect with Gene on or visit Connect with Tameka Rushing on or at
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