Duke's Corner
Duke’s Corner is a forum for conversations with Java developers. Tune in to connect with the community and learn how developers are innovating with Java around the world. Host: Jim Grisanzio, Oracle Java Developer Relations @jimgris
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Bruno Souza: My Greatest Pride is the Community
08/31/2025
Bruno Souza: My Greatest Pride is the Community
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Bruno Souza, who is a Java Champion, leader of the SouJava User Group in Brazil, and a member of the JCP Executive Committee. Bruno received the first Java Community Lifetime Achievement recognition in October 2022 at JavaOne in Las Vegas. "I was totally surprised! I was jumping up and down! I was so honored! It’s an honor to be a member of that group." he said. Bruno Souza is known as the "JavaMan" from Brazil and that nickname started back at Sun when Java was announced and Bruno started evangelizing the technology. Bruno's message to the community was "Open Standards and Open Source" as he began his community building efforts around Java. He continually brought to Brazil FOSS and Standards experts for community discussions, and he advocated for a standards-based Open Source implementation of Java that would pass the TCK. Bruno left Sun and then returned, and he also joined the JCP (Java Community Process). Now all these years later we have OpenJDK, and open JCP, and hundreds of independent JUGs that can participate in community building and also Java development. "Maybe my greatest pride, I think, is the idea of the Java User Groups community," Bruno says. "We have OpenJDK for development and the JCP for standards, but for me the real Java community is the Java User Groups! These are all volunteers who meet and help others participate and learn." Bruno in recent years has been talking a lot about building reputation and career by embracing the open-source lifestyle — writing code in Java, contributing to Open Source, and helping build the community itself. Since our work lives in public mailing lists and open-source code repositories, we earn credibility by being visible, contributing, engaging the community, and helping others get involve as well, Bruno says. Bruno advises that career is a long-term project: "The more you work on it, the more you grow, the more results you have. So, the sooner you start the better. This is not a sprint! This takes time." Getting back to Java itself, Bruno, like most Java developers, prefers the 6-month release cadence over the older system of multi-year development and release cycles. There is a constant flow of technology now which allows for more interactions between the Oracle engineers and engineers in the community. "Everything you see today in Java is possible because of the 6-month release process. I just loved it when the guys did that! I think it's amazing! The fact that we now have two releases per year changed Java. I think we’re positioning Java to be even stronger in the years to come. I’m very excited about the whole thing," Bruno says. Throughout this conversation Bruno provides a wonderful history of Java since he’s been involved from the very beginning! "People don’t remember that Java was a community from the very beginning!" Bruno says. “We were able to look at the source code from the very beginning and that allowed us to build the community from the very beginning with lots of other companies joining." And then the JCP was created to allow Sun and the community to discuss the standardization of Java. And then OpenJDK was a huge step because now Java would be everywhere with Oracle leading and building the community. "Java is more participative today under Oracle than during the Sun times." "Java + Open Source + Community: That’s what grows our career. That's what grows Java too!" — Bruno Souza Bruno Souza Duke's Corner Java Podcast Jim Grisanzio
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Trisha Gee: It’s all about Relationships and People
08/18/2025
Trisha Gee: It’s all about Relationships and People
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Trisha Gee, an author, a Java Champion, and a Developer Advocate at Gradle. In February 2025 at Jfokus in Stockholm Trisha received the Java Community Lifetime Achievement honor from Sharat Chander from Oracle Java Developer Relations. Trisha has been a Java developer for 25 years, and since 2011 she’s been actively blogging, presenting technical sessions at conferences, and evangelizing Java globally. Recently, Trisha has moved from a traditional developer advocate role to more of a facilitator of developer advocacy internally at her company as well as externally. She works with engineering teams, marketing, teams, and sales teams to ensure the voice of the developer resonates throughout the organization and the community. Trisha is always evolving, she’s constantly growing. In this conversation we talk about the JVM, the six month Java release cycle, writing code, the unique features that make Java special as a technology and as a community, Generative AI, design patterns, understanding requirements, asking questions, problem solving, edge cases, documentation, testing, open source, standards, advice for students, and teaching her 9-year old how to code in Java. Trisha is fascinated with the entire development life cycle of software projects and especially the skills developers need now for working with AI. “It feels like a very personal thing from him … he’s such a huge powerhouse in the community. Obviously, he cares about the technology, but he understands that the technology isn’t enough. It is about individuals stepping up but not just doing stuff for themselves but doing stuff to enable other people, to empower other people. It’s the community that makes it a great place to be, and Shar is such a huge champion of that. He makes you feel really appreciated for making the effort to help others and to be involved in the community.” — Trisha Gee commenting about receiving the Java Community Lifetime Achievement recognition from Sharat Chander at Oracle. Trisha Gee Duke's Corner Java Podcast Jim Grisanzio
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Cay Horstmann: Java Still Vibrant After 30 Years
08/08/2025
Cay Horstmann: Java Still Vibrant After 30 Years
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Cay Horstmann, a professor, author, and Java Champion. In April in Cologne, Germany at JCON Cay received the Java Community Lifetime Achievement recognition from Sharat Chander on the Oracle Java Developer Relations Team. This conversation covers the evolution of Java, the constant polishing of the library, the upcoming Java 25 release, the six-month release cycle, improvements in the Java language to make the technology more beginner friendly, teaching methodologies, conferences vs unconferences, and also timeless task-driven learning methods for students and developers to keep their skills sharp. Also, Cay has been writing books about Java for decades and years ago he was instrumental in initially getting Java integrated into the curriculum for the computer science AP exam in the United States. “One of the reasons why Java is still so vibrant 30 years in is that there is a constant stream of low-level innovation going on. It’s pretty amazing.” Cay Horstmann Duke's Corner Java Podcast Jim Grisanzio
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Heinz Kabutz: Really Life Changing!
07/31/2025
Heinz Kabutz: Really Life Changing!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Heinz Kabutz from the Island of Crete in Greece. Heinz has a PhD in Computer Science, publishes the The JavaSpecialists' Newsletter, and runs the JCrete Unconference. Heinz is also a Java Champion and a teacher, and he cares deeply about the technology and the community. Recently, Heinz was recognized for his Lifetime Achievement by Sharat Chander from Oracle Java Developer Relations. “I was on cloud nine! I was so honored,” Heinz said. In this conversation Heinz previews some JEPs in the upcoming Java 25 release, he comments on the value of the 6-month Java release cycle, he outlines how he’s contributed code to OpenJDK (and how others can too!), he offers some detailed advice to students getting involved in software development for the first time, and he talks at length about the opportunities for developers who participate at the JCrete Unconference. “I have seen people whose entire careers got revolutionized just by coming to JCrete once. It’s really life changing!” Heinz Kabutz https://x.com/heinzkabutz https://www.javaspecialists.eu/ https://www.jcrete.org/ https://x.com/heinzkabutz/status/1920855230910005540 OpenJDK https://openjdk.org/ Duke's Corner Java Podcast https://dukescorner.libsyn.com Jim Grisanzio https://x.com/jimgris https://jimgrisanzio.wordpress.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimgris/
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Nate Schutta: I Just Love to Learn!
07/17/2025
Nate Schutta: I Just Love to Learn!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Nate Schutta, an author, a teacher, a software architect, and Java Champion. Nate lives in the United States and teaches computer science to university students. He loves teaching and he loves learning, and he specializes in exploring the big picture of complicated systems in his career as a software architect. The conversation covers the Java community, the value for developers if they contribute to Java User Groups (JUGs), the benefits and some possible drawbacks of AI, and the engineering feat that is the Java Virtual Machine (JVM). Nate has a passion for learning and here’s his advice for young developers and engineering students. “The fundamentals can’t be skipped! And they take time to learn! You just have to put in those hours to understand the basics, and then you can graduate to the more complicated stuff.” Nate tripped over Java a bit in school and joined his first Java project right in his first job. Once he heard about this new Java project, he said: “Heck, yeah! I want in on that!” Nate Schutta Duke's Corner Java Podcast Jim Grisanzio
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Francisco Contreras: I Felt Like I Could do Anything!
06/28/2025
Francisco Contreras: I Felt Like I Could do Anything!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Francisco Contreras, who is a Java developer and a co-organizer at Nicaragua JUG. Francisco has been a Java developer for over 15 years and he runs his own consulting business with customers around the world. He's passionate about Java the technology and also Java the community. "When I learned Java at university I felt like I could do anything with that," he said, talking about how Java enables him to engage developers, write really great software, and also grow a business. But Java goes well beyond just technology. When Francisco had some personal challenges in his life, he was happy that many community members immediately offered to help him. "The sense of community in the Java environment is just awesome!" Francisco Contreras JUG Nicaragua Java User Groups Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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Ivar Grimstad: Java for Everything
05/20/2025
Ivar Grimstad: Java for Everything
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Ivar Grimstad, who is a Java Champion, a JCP Executive Committee Member, and a Jakarta EE Developer Advocate. Ivar is based in Sweden but travels to over 40 events a year talking about Java and Open Source with thousands of developers. He feels passionately about contributing to Java projects as the best way for young developers to learn Java and connect with the community, especially at Java conferences. Ivar has been working with Java professionally since 2000, but he's been solving problems with code since he was a little kid around 12 or 13 years old. "Java has been my go-to language for everything!" he says. "It's been here for 30 years and it'll probably be around for 30 more!" Ivar Grimstad Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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Duke's Corner Live at JavaOne!
04/06/2025
Duke's Corner Live at JavaOne!
The Duke’s Corner Java Podcast contributed an 11 minute segment to the Community Keynote at JavaOne 2025 in California in March. Jim Grisanzio from Oracle Java Developer Relations hosted the program with special guests Cay Horstmann, Marit van Dijk, and Lize Raes. The panel covered the latest bits in Java, how to contribute to the community, and the best bits from JavaOne. Everyone had a great time! Here’s the full Community Keynote session from JavaOne in March 2025: Here's the 11 minute segment in video: https://x.com/jimgris/status/1907660414550176236
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Tom Cools: My Mission to Spread Java
03/09/2025
Tom Cools: My Mission to Spread Java
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Tom Cools, an engineer from Belgium, a conference speaker, a Java Champion, and the leader of the Belgian Java User Group. "I make it my mission to spread Java all over Belgium," says Tom as he describes how he runs the BeJUG as an Open Source project that takes contributions from the community. Here in this conversation Tom also talks about how the recent evolution of Java with rapid release cycles and new innovations attracted him to the language he loves. Tom is also a certified teacher so we discussed learning strategies, stress management, social media, managing change, AI, burnout, and other life experiences developers must deal with as they navigate through their careers in software development. Tom Cools Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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François Martin: Teaching Java, Contributing to Java
02/28/2025
François Martin: Teaching Java, Contributing to Java
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with François Martin, a full stack developer from Switzerland who loves teaching Java to students and contributing to the Java community. This conversation ranges from teaching students Java from scratch, the value of test driven development, the lessons from NASA's Apollo project, the benefits — and surprises — of contributing to open source projects, and so much more. Even open source marketing and The Cluetrain Manifesto came up! François is passionate about coding in Java and sharing his experiences with other developers at JUG meetings and conferences. Java was the first language he learned and that seems to made all the difference in the world. François Martin Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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Marit van Dijk Previews JavaOne 2025!
02/17/2025
Marit van Dijk Previews JavaOne 2025!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Marit van Dijk, a Java Champion and also a Java Developer Advocate at JetBrains. Marit will present on developer productivity with IntelliJ IDEA at JavaOne March 18-20 in California. Go to javaone.com and register and we'll see you there! Marit van Dijk JavaOne 2025 Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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Venkat Subramaniam: Be Agile about Being Agile!
02/04/2025
Venkat Subramaniam: Be Agile about Being Agile!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Venkat Subramaniam, who is a Java Champion, professor, programmer, and a conference organizer. The conversation ranges from the upcoming JavaOne conference in California in March 2025 to building the Java community, engaging the next generation of Java developers, the importance of going to Java user groups, career building, the evolution of Java technology, agile development, release models, and his upcoming book — Cruising Along with Java. This is a jam packed episode that has something for everyone. Here's quick bit from the interview from Venkat: "One of the biggest contributions Java has made is to truly show to us the developers what agile development really should be!" Venkat Subramaniam Jim Grisanzio Duke's Corner JavaOne 2025
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Richard Fichtner Previews JavaOne 2025!
01/30/2025
Richard Fichtner Previews JavaOne 2025!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Richard Fichtner as he previews his upcoming session at JavaOne in March and offers his perspective on what makes JavaOne special! Go to javaone.com and register and we'll see you there! Richard Fichtner JavaOne 2025 Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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Venkat Subramaniam Previews JavaOne 2025!
01/26/2025
Venkat Subramaniam Previews JavaOne 2025!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Venkat Subramaniam as he previews his upcoming session at JavaOne in March and offers his perspective on what makes JavaOne special! Go to javaone.com and register and we'll see you there! This is just a short JavaOne preview with Venkat. Later this week we'll release the full podcast where we cover many topics about software development — and more JavaOne too! Venkat Subramaniam JavaOne 2025 Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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Sharat Chander: Celebrating the Java Community
12/19/2024
Sharat Chander: Celebrating the Java Community
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Sharat Chander, Senior Director, Java Product Management and Community Engagement. Shar and Jim summarized some community development achievements for 2024 and gave a peek into what's coming for 2025 — JavaOne! That's right, JavaOne 2025 will be held in March 18-20 in California and you can register right now at . Sharat Chander Oracle Java Developer Relations Team JavaOne 2025: Registration now Open! Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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Ted M. Young: Java has been my Career!
12/16/2024
Ted M. Young: Java has been my Career!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Ted M. Young from the San Francisco Bay Area about all things Java and test driven development. Ted streams his coding sessions and builds community around his passion for excellence in software development. His first JavaOne was the first JavaOne! And he's been coding in Java ever since. His mantra is to "reduce the suffering and increase the joy of software development" and he's made Java his career. Ted also deeply appreciates the JVM: "It's one of the wonders of the software world." Can't beat that. Ted M. Young Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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Donald Raab: Unlimited, Untapped Resources
11/29/2024
Donald Raab: Unlimited, Untapped Resources
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Donald Raab, a Java Champion, the founder of the Eclipse Collections project, and a perfectionist who always seeks the best quality code. The conversation ran wild around all things Java and Donald's experiences with the technology for decades. He spoke in detail about the twenty year history of the Eclipse Collections project, his interactions with engineers on OpenJDK, the OpenJDK Quality Outreach Project, and the benefits for everyone being involved with not only Java but the greater FOSS community. In fact, when talking about the community, Donald said that working with the community is like engaging "unlimited, untapped resources ... you said community, well, it's real." Donald's book on Eclipse Collections comes out soon too! Donald Raab Duke's Corner Jim Grisanzio
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Piotr Przybyl: The Creativity is Amazing
11/18/2024
Piotr Przybyl: The Creativity is Amazing
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Piotr Przybyl, a Java Champion and developer advocate in Poland who realized at a young age that "given enough time I could write literally everything! The creativity is amazing! I love it!" Piotr is hard core about coding and his passion for technology comes thorough in this conversation, which ranges from how Piotr embraced Java in school, how he learned more Java on his own, and how he always gives back to the Java community around the world. Piotr Przybyl Jim Grisanzio Duke's Corner Java Podcast
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Cesar Hernandez: Sharing with the Community
10/21/2024
Cesar Hernandez: Sharing with the Community
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Cesar Hernandez, a Java Champion, a teacher, and long time contributor to multiple Open Source projects from Guatemala. The conversation ranged from how Cesar blew up his dad's computer to start his computer science career, teaching Java to university students, the benefits of Java technology, and participating at Java User Groups and conferences. And most importantly, Cesar talked about his passion for sharing everything he knows with the community. Cesar Hernandez Jim Grisanzio Duke's Corner Java Podcast
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Hanno Embregts: Making the World a Better Place
10/03/2024
Hanno Embregts: Making the World a Better Place
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Hanno Embregts, a Java Champion and an Oracle ACE Pro from The Netherlands who loves contributing to the Java community and presenting technical and musical sessions at developer conferences. And Hanno is especially passionate about making the world a better place thorough software. In fact, he's been driven by that idea for as long as he can remember! He goes into detail about how the Java community is so innovative, why Java is so technically advanced, and how both can be leveraged to help us all live in a more environmentally sustainable way. Hanno Embregts Jim Grisanzio
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Cay Horstmann at JavaZone 2024
09/17/2024
Cay Horstmann at JavaZone 2024
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with author and Java Champion Cay Horstmann at JavaZone Oslo 2024. The conversation covered Java for small tasks, teaching Java to thousands of students for decades, and the thriving Java conferences around the world. Cay Horstmann Jim Grisanzio
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JavaZone: Everything is Possible
09/11/2024
JavaZone: Everything is Possible
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Dervis Mansuroglu and Marek Machnik last week from JavaZone 2024 in Oslo. Dervis and Marek are two of the organizers from the Norwegian Java User Group who helped lead this year’s JavaZone event. The discussion covered the speakers, the venue, the volunteers, the content, and the community that participated at the conference. Summarizing the overall event, Dervis said, “Whatever you can dream of, it’s possible. Nothing is impossible.” That sentiment was shared by many of the thousands of developers who contributed to make JavaZone an innovative and unique experience. Dervis on X Marek on X JavaZone on X Jim on X
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Elias Nogueira: Share Everything you Know!
08/22/2024
Elias Nogueira: Share Everything you Know!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Elias Nogueira, a Java Champion and an Oracle ACE Pro from The Netherlands who loves the Java community and sharing everything he's learned. The conversation ranges from Elias’s early experience learning Java and many other programming languages, his desire to improve his career opportunities, moving from Brazil to The Netherlands, learning a new language, and contributing to Java user groups around the world. There are so many beautiful things about the Java community, he says. Yep, we agree. Elias on X Jim on X
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Simon Martinelli: Trains, Code, Community, and Teaching!
07/04/2024
Simon Martinelli: Trains, Code, Community, and Teaching!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Simon Martinelli, a Java Champion and an Oracle ACE Pro from Switzerland who loves contributing to FOSS projects and teaching students all about Java. The conversation ranges from Simon’s early experience learning Java, working for the Swiss Railway, engaging multiple Java User Groups, and teaching students. Simon also gets into the benefits of modern Java and some of the best features the technology offers for developers. Simon: Jim:
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Praveen Mohan: Quality in Java and the Community
06/20/2024
Praveen Mohan: Quality in Java and the Community
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Praveen Mohan, Director of Java Quality and Infrastructure at the Oracle India Development Center in Bangalore, which is part of the Java Platform Group. The conversation covers the technical details of the quality engineering operation in Bangalore where 40 developers ensure that Java is tested to the highest standards possible before release. Also discussed is how much the team engages the Bangalore Java User Group to build close development relationships with the community. Jim: https://twitter.com/jimgris Praveen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohanpraveen/
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Bert Jan Schrijver: Java is a Marvel of Engineering
05/02/2024
Bert Jan Schrijver: Java is a Marvel of Engineering
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Bert Jan Schrijver from The Netherlands. Bert is a Java Champion, a leader of the Dutch Java User Group, and the CTO and co-founder of OpenValue that he started in 2017. The conversation spans all of Bert's experiences as a software developer, including hacking and gaming as a six-year old, contributing to the computer lab fire in school, blowing out the family's phone bill with his first modem, getting an advanced CS education at university, engaging the Java community globally, and building his own software company. Bert also offers some interesting advice for how people can continue learning and growing and contributing to the community at Java events. He also details why Java is special and why developers embrace the technology: "Java is one of the only languages I know of that has been active and current for so long. And one of the keys is the marvel of engineering in the Java Virtual Machine." Bert: Jim:
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Richard Fichtner: JCON 2024 Preview
04/24/2024
Richard Fichtner: JCON 2024 Preview
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Richard Fichtner, a Java developer from Germany who is also a JUG leader and an Oracle ACE Pro. The conversation previews the upcoming JCON Europe 2024 Conference in Cologne, which will have 100 sessions of core Java technologies and a thousand Java developers from around the world. Richard and the JCON organizing team will be trying some new things this year to facilitate community engagement at JCON so if you are around Germany May 13-16 you are encouraged to stop by and participate. Oracle will be sponsoring the event and will send three teams of engineers to contribute sessions — Java, GraalVM, and Oracle Database. Don't miss it! We hear the food will be great! Richard: JCON: Jim:
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Mohammed Aboullaite: With Java it was Love at First Sight
04/03/2024
Mohammed Aboullaite: With Java it was Love at First Sight
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Mohammed Aboullaite, a Java developer from Morocco who is now based on Stockholm, Sweden. The conversation covers how Mohammed first fell in love with Java in college, and he's been contributing to the community ever since. Mohammed says it's "mind blowing" what happens when you get a bunch of Java developers in the same room because they are so passionate about the technology and the capabilities that it offers. Even after all these years, Java developers are still pushing the limits and innovating. So, get involved! Mohammed on Twitter Jim on Twitter
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Marit van Dijk: The Java Community is Awesome!
03/15/2024
Marit van Dijk: The Java Community is Awesome!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Marit van Dijk, a Java Champion and Developer Advocate at JetBrains based in The Netherlands. The conversation covers all things Java — the growing community, the latest features to enable developer productivity, contributing to Open Source, advice for students, and Marit's unique background in Social Science Informatics that combines computer science and social science. Marit on Twitter Marit on the Web Jim on Twitter
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Jonathan Vila: Everything Changed!
02/28/2024
Jonathan Vila: Everything Changed!
Jim Grisanzio from Java Developer Relations talks with Jonathan Vila, a Java engineer and Java Champion based in Barcelona, Spain. The conversation covers Jonathan's long career in software development, his love/hate relationship with various languages, his passion for Java, the benefits of contributing to Open Source, and why he loves the Java community. After Jonathan's first experience with the local Java User Group in Barcelona, Jonathan said that everything changed in his professional life completely. He was a coder who loved technology before Java, but after experiencing Java and the Java community he developed an entirely new appreciation for community and moved his career to a new level. His story is an inspiration for everyone! Jonathan on Twitter Jim on Twitter
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