Otherppl with Brad Listi
A weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Launched in 2011. Hosted by Brad Listi.
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991. Elaine Hsieh Chou
09/16/2025
991. Elaine Hsieh Chou
is the author of the debut story collection , available from Penguin Press. Official September 2025 pick of the . Elaine Hsieh Chou is a Taiwanese American author and screenwriter from California. Described as “the funniest, most poignant novel of the year” by Vogue, her debut novel Disorientation was a New York Times Editors’ Choice Book, New York Public Library Young Lions Fiction Award Finalist and Thurber Prize Finalist. A former Rona Jaffe Graduate Fellow at New York University, her Pushcart Award–winning short fiction appears in Guernica, Black Warrior Review, Tin House Online, Ploughshares and The Atlantic, while her essays appear in The Cut and Vanity Fair. She is a Fred R. Brown Literary Award recipient, a Sundance Episodic Lab Fellow and a Gotham Series Creator to Watch. Her work has been supported by the Harry Ransom Center, the New York Foundation for the Arts and Hedgebrook’s Writers-in-Residence Program. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Rachel, 32, Director of Content and Engagement
09/14/2025
Rachel, 32, Director of Content and Engagement
Character Study, Vol. 17. 'Character Studies' is a new series on the podcast featuring interviews with 'civilians'—ordinary adult humans of all ages and backgrounds, talking with Brad about their lives, anonymously. In Vol. 17, a conversation with Rachel, 32, a Director of Content & Engagement from Queens, NYC. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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The Dawn of the Sheenaissance
09/11/2025
The Dawn of the Sheenaissance
Volume 59 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Trump's horny artwork in the terrifying Epstein birthday book....Angry Adam repeatedly punching his dashboard...Mira in the Emergency Room...Charlie Sheen comeback tour starts now...gets liposuction after being taunted by a sex worker...Britney's incontinent dogs...her filthy mansion...Alec Baldwin selfie video confessional...Hilaria in psycho-training-mode for DWTS...and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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990. Hala Alyan
09/09/2025
990. Hala Alyan
is the author of the debut memoir , available from Avid Reader Press. Alyan is the author of the novels Salt Houses—winner of the Dayton Literary Peace Prize and the Arab American Book Award, and a finalist for the Chautauqua Prize—and The Arsonists’ City, a finalist for the Aspen Words Literary Prize. She is also the author of five highly acclaimed collections of poetry, including The Twenty-Ninth Year and The Moon That Turns You Back. Her work has been published by The New Yorker, The Academy of American Poets, The New York Times, The Guardian, and Guernica. She lives in Brooklyn with her family, where she works as a clinical psychologist and professor at New York University. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Jennifer Pastiloff on Grief, Creativity, Shame Loss, Sobriety, and Connection
09/07/2025
Jennifer Pastiloff on Grief, Creativity, Shame Loss, Sobriety, and Connection
is the author of , available from Dutton. Pastiloff trots the globe as a public speaker and to host her retreats to Italy, as well as her one-of-a-kind workshops, which she has taught to thousands of people all over the world. The author of the popular Substack, also called Proof of Life, she teaches writing and creativity classes called Allow, and workshops called Shame Loss, when she isn’t painting and selling her art. She has been featured on Good Morning America, and Katie Couric, and in New York magazine, People, Shape, Health magazine, and other media outlets for her authenticity and unique voice. She is deaf, reads lips, and mishears almost everything, but what she hears is usually funnier (at least she thinks so). The author of the national bestseller On Being Human, Pastiloff lives in Southern California with her son, Charlie Mel. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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The Legend of Young Beaver
09/04/2025
The Legend of Young Beaver
Volume 58 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad and Mira go to karaoke, don't speak to one another, worry about communicable disease...Angry Adam on Taylor Swift...Burning Man murder mystery....Sydney Sweeney and Scooter Braun in love....more on the Swift-Kelce engagement...Trump is obsessed...Blake Lively remains in exile....The Hilaria Baldwin surrogate conspiracy...imagining the Baldwins on The Playa...and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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989. Susannah Cahalan
09/02/2025
989. Susannah Cahalan
is the author of (Viking). Cahalan is a #1 New York Times–bestselling author, journalist and public speaker. Her first book, Brain on Fire, has sold over a million copies and has been translated into more than twenty languages. Her second book, The Great Pretender, was shortlisted for the Royal Society’s 2020 Science Book Prize. She lives in New Jersey with her family. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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988. Sylvia Jones
08/31/2025
988. Sylvia Jones
is the author of the debut poetry collection , available from Meekling Books. Jones is an adjunct professor at George Washington University. She also works as poetry editor for Black Lawrence Press and serves as a first reader for Ploughshares. Her next book, Dope Callisthenics, is forthcoming from Relegation Books in the Fall of 2026. She earned her M.F.A. from American University in Washington D.C. and lives in Baltimore, MD. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Ken Burns Presents 'The Swiftie Civil War'
08/28/2025
Ken Burns Presents 'The Swiftie Civil War'
Volume 57 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad leans on A.I. for emotional validation...Angry Adam weighs in...Mira's Grandpasaurus has a massive stroke (survives)...Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce get engaged...the Taylor Timer shatters...Lil Nas X walks nude through Studio City...a finger in a chicken wrap...and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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987. Lydi Conklin
08/26/2025
987. Lydi Conklin
is the author of the debut novel , available from Catapult Press. It was longlisted for the Center for Fiction First Novel Prize. Conklin has received a Stegner Fellowship, four Pushcart Prizes, a Rona Jaffe Foundation Writers’ Award, a Creative Writing Fulbright in Poland, and fellowships from MacDowell, Yaddo, Hedgebrook, and elsewhere. Their fiction has appeared in The Paris Review, One Story, and American Short Fiction. They have drawn cartoons for The New Yorker and Narrative Magazine. Their story collection, Rainbow Rainbow, was longlisted for the PEN/Robert W. Bingham Award and The Story Prize. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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986. Donald Berger
08/24/2025
986. Donald Berger
is the author of the poetry collection , available from SurVision Books. Winner of the 2024 James Tate International Poetry Prize. Berger's other books include Pizza Necklace, The Long Time—winner of the Poetry Prize of the German Academy for Language and Poetry—and Quality Hill (Lost Roads Publishers). His poems have appeared in journals in the U.S., Europe and Asia, and he currently teaches at Johns Hopkins University. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Billionaire Death Party
08/21/2025
Billionaire Death Party
Volume 56 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Mira's hummingbird death angel friend...a letter from a listener who got run over by a car...Angry Adam returns (we forgot to play his audio last week)...Lana del Rey vs. Ethel Cain...billionaires in submersibles getting coffee and going to visit the disintegrated remains of peasants at the bottom of the ocean...in a shocking turn, Brad discovers an easter egg in Taylor Swift's new album...Katy Perry's continued run of shockingly bad luck...and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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985. Chelsea Bieker
08/19/2025
985. Chelsea Bieker
is the author of the novel , now available in trade paperback wherever books are sold. Bieker's first novel, , was longlisted for The Center For Fiction’s and her story collection, won the . She is the co-creator of , writes about creative practice at her substack, and is at work on a new novel. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Get the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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A Conversation with a Witch: Amanda Yates Garcia on Empire, Resistance, Contemporary Culture, and Radical Enchantment
08/17/2025
A Conversation with a Witch: Amanda Yates Garcia on Empire, Resistance, Contemporary Culture, and Radical Enchantment
A special Sunday episode featuring , also known as The Oracle of Los Angeles. Amanda is a writer, socially engaged artist, public witch, and doctoral student in the department of World Arts Cultures and Dance at UCLA. Her first book, , received a starred review from Kirkus and Publisher's Weekly and has been translated into six languages. Amanda hosts the Between the Worlds podcast, which looks at the Western Mystery traditions through a mythopoetic lens and has been downloaded over 2.5 million times, with over 1,900 five-star reviews. Amanda is the founder of , a 20k strong online and in-person community on Substack dedicated to eco-somatic ritual practice and cultivating radical enchantment. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Our Lives Are Brilliant, Our Love is Pure
08/14/2025
Our Lives Are Brilliant, Our Love is Pure
Volume 55 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad's new company, DeepDive, launches, he is now a startup founder...Brad takes his family to see The Naked Gun ...Mira sees Weapons (and gets Chappell Roan tickets)....Brad's strangely intimate knowledge of the James Blount phenomenon...T-Swift announces a new era...the Anna Delvey Brooklyn bunnicide...Katy Perry's masterclass in public relations disasters...and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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984. Michael Clune
08/12/2025
984. Michael Clune
is the author of the debut novel , available from Penguin Press. It is the official August 2025 pick of the . Clune is the critically acclaimed author of the memoirs Gamelife and White Out: The Secret Life of Heroin. His academic books include A Defense of Judgment, Writing Against Time, and American Literature and the Free Market. Clune’s work has appeared in venues ranging from Harper’s Magazine, Salon, and Granta to Behavioral and Brain Sciences, PMLA, and The Chronicle of Higher Education. His work has been recognized by fellowships and awards from the John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation, the Mellon Foundation, the Baker-Nord Center for the Humanities, and others. He is currently a professor at the Salmon P. Chase Center for Civics, Culture, and Society at the Ohio State University and lives in Chagrin Falls, Ohio. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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983. Jane Borden
08/10/2025
983. Jane Borden
is the author of , available from Atria. Jane's work as a culture journalist has been featured in Vanity Fair, The New York Times Magazine, The Washington Post, and other publications. She lives in Los Angeles. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Mira is Hallucinating Bugs
08/07/2025
Mira is Hallucinating Bugs
Volume 54 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad, age 50, wanders the hills, contemplating mountain lions and death...Mira's ant infestation...Mira in retrograde...Sydney Sweeney's iron domes...Pam and Liam 4ever...Rod Stewart's A.I. necrophilia...Denise Richards' ex euthanizes her dog??...and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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982. Shelby Hinte
08/05/2025
982. Shelby Hinte
is the author of the debut novel , available from Leftover Books. Hinte is the Senior Editor of Write or Die Magazine and teaches writing classes at the Writing Salon and WritingWorkshops.com. She has been a reader and intern for various independent presses and magazines including ZYZZYVA, Split/Lip Press, and No Contact. Her writing has been featured in BOMB Magazine, The Rumpus, ZYZZYVA, Hobart, SmokeLong Quarterly, and elsewhere. Howling Women is her first novel. She lives in Northern California. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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981. Claire Jia
08/03/2025
981. Claire Jia
is the author of the debut novel , available from Tin House. It was the official July pick of the . Jia is a writer from Illinois. Her work has appeared in The New York TimesModern Love column, The Rumpus, Reductress, and more. She writes for television and video games, including the 2024 Peabody Award-winning We Are OFK. She lives in Los Angeles with her friends. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is an , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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It's Hot Down Here, Brother
07/31/2025
It's Hot Down Here, Brother
Volume 53 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad approaches 50...the Tesla Diner attacks a woman...the obsession with tall...the triumph of Billy Joel, short king and musical savant...Sydney Sweeney's eugenics commercial...the roasting of Hulk Hogan, an American embarrassment...the Justin Trudeau / Fidel Castro conspiracy theory...and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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980. Hannah Pittard
07/29/2025
980. Hannah Pittard
is the author of the novel , available from Henry Holt & Co. Pittard is the author of the novels Listen to Me and The Fates Will Find Their Way. She is a winner of the Amanda Davis Highwire Fiction Award, a MacDowell fellow, and the Guy M. Davenport Professor in English at the University of Kentucky. She lives with her boyfriend and stepdaughter in Lexington. Much of her family lives nearby. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is an , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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979. Ken Baumann
07/27/2025
979. Ken Baumann
is the author of the novella . Baumann is the author of seven novels and three works of nonfiction. After working as an actor in film and TV, running the publishing company Sator Press, studying canonical texts at St. John's College, and playing competitive Magic: The Gathering, he now lives and works as a writer and coach in Santa Fe, New Mexico. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is an , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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52 Weeks of Brad & Mira
07/24/2025
52 Weeks of Brad & Mira
Volume 52 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...a year of podcasting...Mira's longest run of continuous employment...Mira vs. diarrhea...the Tesla Diner opens in Hollywood...Mira does hot yoga to relieve PTSD...Brad watches the new Billy Joel documentary...the '70s smelled bad...Gwyneth talks about technically excellent tea-bagging...Ozzie RIP....Trump and Epstein's "wonderful secrets"...and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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978. Megan Abbott
07/22/2025
978. Megan Abbott
is the author of the novel , available from G. P. Putnam's Sons. Abbott is the Edgar award-winning author of eleven crime novels, including You Will Know Me, Give Me Your Hand and the New York Times bestseller The Turnout, the winner of the Los Angeles Times Book Prize. She received her Ph.D. in English and American literature from New York University and her writing has appeared in the New York Times, the Guardian, the Paris Review and the Wall Street Journal. Dare Me, the series she adapted from her own novel, now streaming on Netflix. Her latest novel, Beware the Woman, is now in paperback. Photo credit: Nina Subin. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is an , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Exploring Hybrid Literary Forms
07/20/2025
Exploring Hybrid Literary Forms
A new Craftwork conversation with and , co-authors of , available from W. W. Norton & Col. Davison is the author of Doubting Thomas and founder of The Lab, a generative writing workshop. He is emeritus faculty in Creative Writing at San Francisco State University, and lives in Oakland, California with his husband. LaPlante is the author of the craft book The Making of a Story and the New York Times best-selling novel Turn of Mind. She has taught creative writing at Stanford and San Francisco State University and lives in Mallorca, Spain, with her family. *** is a weekly literary podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Slap Me and Call Me Mommy
07/17/2025
Slap Me and Call Me Mommy
Volume 51 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad's life as a CEO...both Brad and Mira are experiencing burnout and Mira has been burned out since age 4...the Minecraft Movie's pro-child-labor agenda...Brad reviews the new Supermanmovie...celebrities and their obsession with yacht vacations (and Wimbledon)...Diddy reads self-help books...Elon Musk creates an AI Hotwire for his incel army....Britney adopts a baby girl????....and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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977. Kashana Cauley
07/15/2025
977. Kashana Cauley
is the author of the novel , available from Atria Books. Cauley's other novel is called The Survivalists, which was named a best book of 2023 by the BBC, Today, Vogue, and more. She is also a television writer, having worked on The Great North, Pod Save America on HBO, and The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Her writing has also appeared in The New York Times, The Atlantic, Esquire, Rolling Stone, The New Yorker, and more. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is an , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Special Episode: DeepDive Sneak Preview!
07/13/2025
Special Episode: DeepDive Sneak Preview!
In today's episode, I'm sharing an exclusive sneak preview of How to Write a Novel, the debut audio course from my new company, , which will be launching soon. How to Write a Novel is hosted by yours truly, and it features more than 50 hours of insight and instruction from dozens of today's leading contemporary authors, including Emily St. John Mandel, Melissa Broder, Stephen Graham Jones, V. V. Ganeshananthan, Ingrid Rojas Contreras, Porochista Khakpour, Claudia Dey, Gina Frangello, Tod Goldberg, Antoine Wilson, Vauhini Vara, Madelaine Lucas, Matt Bell, and many more. Today, you'll be hearing the first episode in the course. The episode is called "Why Write a Novel?" and it features a wonderful conversation with Steve Almond, New York Times bestselling author of several books, including the critically acclaimed debut novel All the Secrets of the World, and a superb craft book called Truth is the Arrow, Mercy is the Bow. *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is an , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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Seventy Hot Dogs in Ten Minutes
07/10/2025
Seventy Hot Dogs in Ten Minutes
Volume 50 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Mira experiences back pain, takes 100mg of THC...Brad recaps his chaotic vacation...the shittiest 4th of July ever...America's obsession with hot dog eating...fireworks...Diddy gets semi-acquitted...baby oil celebrations...the great Epstein cover-up...Denise Richards and her reiki masseuse husband are divorcing...and more... *** is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: , , , etc. Subscribe to . Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a , working to support local, independent bookstores.
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