The Nik Hawks Show
Conversations in pursuit of excellence. Go to nikhawks.com for more. Formerly the Paleo Treats Podcast.
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Episode 77: Dave Schipper, Outdoor Gear & Clothing Designer
10/06/2024
Episode 77: Dave Schipper, Outdoor Gear & Clothing Designer
"For as long as I can remember, I've made things." Dave Schipper joins us to re-start the pod after I've taken a 5 year hiatus. Dave is a generally rad dude hailing from Moab, Utah, and if you've ever done anything even half-way hardcore in the great outdoors it's reasonably likely you've used a piece of gear he designed. We talk about the paraglider bag we worked on together as well as his experience as a designer & developer to bring the avalung-in-a-backpack into being as well as super lightweight backpacks for adventure racing. Dave can be found using his full (with the -id at the end) first name, then outdoorlabs.com. The pack we discussed in the show can be found here: Enjoy!
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Ep 76: Dr. Anne Andrews & Brain Chemistry
10/24/2019
Ep 76: Dr. Anne Andrews & Brain Chemistry
Principle Investigator at the Anne Andrews Research Group at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
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Ep 75: Shannon Jay, Abalone Diver & Cat Rescuer
09/26/2019
Ep 75: Shannon Jay, Abalone Diver & Cat Rescuer
From abalone hunter to national park service law enforcement to viral video cat rescuing star, Shannon Jay is the kind of guy you just love to sit down and listen to. A fantastic story teller, he is one of my favorite people to catch up with.
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Ep 74: Stanford Graham, A Fast Runner
08/22/2019
Ep 74: Stanford Graham, A Fast Runner
Stan Graham sticks out in any crowd. At 6'5" with a shock of white hair, he's a physical presence. He can also move that mass pretty quickly. In October of 2019 he's aiming for a world record for the 50 and over crowd. We talked about running a bit in the show, but went more deeply into his beliefs, how he got into running, and why he started Elements meals. A rad human with a story worth sharing. Enjoy!
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Ep 73: Scott Mann, Green Beret & Storyteller
08/14/2019
Ep 73: Scott Mann, Green Beret & Storyteller
Scott Mann shares his journey from revenge-driven Green Beret "putting scalps on the barn" in Afghanistan to creative storyteller helping guide other veterans through the process of transitioning from the military to civilian life. Scott takes us through his career including why he turned down a military command opportunity 3 times: "I joined to be a Green Beret, not a Colonel". He tells us about his journey out of the military, how despite all his planning and outside stability he still started to flame out. Scott walks us through how Bo Eason, a former NFL player turned actor, helped guide him through to his next journey. Scott is a powerful speaker and a good human; I would have been stoked to have had his leadership when I was in the military. More on Scott at:
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Ep 72: Currents of the Earth, 1st draft
06/30/2019
Ep 72: Currents of the Earth, 1st draft
Been working on this piece of writing for a while, thought I'd share one of the first drafts with you. As you'll hear, this comes from my experiences riding earth energy, would love to get your feedback on it. Rock on! For more info go to nikhawks.com -NFH
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Ep 71: Eric Bostrom, Motorcycles & Health
05/31/2019
Ep 71: Eric Bostrom, Motorcycles & Health
After a chance meeting while coaching young athletes I stayed in touch with Eric Bostrom for two reasons. First, he had a clean energy. I know that sounds pretty damn woo-woo, but as I’ve gotten older I’ve just learned to trust my gut more when it comes to meeting people. Eric was soft spoken but from the moment I met him there was an obvious intensity to him. That leads to the second reason: He was a champion motorcycle racer. You don't get to be a champion by being unfocused, and God knows I love the folks who can dial in focus to the white hot intensity of a thousand burning suns. Getting on a motorcycle (for me) represents the fastest way to transition from the normal humdrum of life into an experience that puts you at mortal peril. One minute you’re straddling an inert piece of metal and plastic in front of your house, the next you’re in traffic, whipping along at speeds humans just weren’t meant to attain, surrounded by heavy and fast beasts that basically don’t notice or care whether you exist. Bloody dangerous, and open to anyone crazy enough to swing a leg over and twist the throttle. Racing motorcycles is a few steps further, and something I’ve always thought far too dangerous for me. Eric is one of those guys who raced at a bunch of levels, who chased victory hard for years because that’s how he paid the bills, and who squeaked through the injury cycle of professional motorsports and out the other side with a combination of skill and luck. On that far side of competition he created a solution for the neck and back pain that had come from the crashing, dings, and dents that are a part of hurtling through space with basically no protection. At the end of the show we talk about , which we use at the Paleo Treats office. Not only does the thing work and provide relief, it stands as a shining example of how to ROCK a Kickstarter campaign. You’ll notice some common themes with Eric and Brian Enos. Competition forces you to get better. The more skilled you become, the better you are at listening to your environment. You don’t need to try harder to go faster, you need to think better. Enjoy the convo, and for all the show notes & links, sign up at the Deep Diver level at nikhawks.com Cheers, NFH
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Ep 70: Brian Enos, Master of Awareness
05/27/2019
Ep 70: Brian Enos, Master of Awareness
What does it take to shoot a pistol faster than pretty much anyone else in the world? Mastery over awareness and attention. Whether you're a pistol wizard or a paraglider pilot, this show goes deep into how to improve at anything you do.
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Ep 69: Lessons From A Failed Business
05/01/2019
Ep 69: Lessons From A Failed Business
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Ep 68: Jeff Shapiro & Falconry
04/03/2019
Ep 68: Jeff Shapiro & Falconry
This is classic podcast material: A dive into a fascinating topic that you wouldn't normally hear about. is a well known climber, base jumper, wingsuit pilot, hang glider, and paraglider but for this show we focused on his passion for falconry. Jeff is a Master falconer and has been working with raptors since becoming an Apprentice 2000. We talk about how you get birds, how to train them, and about some of the peak experiences he's had hunting with falcons and one that he still hopes to have. Enjoy the show!
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Ep 67: Insomnia Researcher Max de Zambotti
03/20/2019
Ep 67: Insomnia Researcher Max de Zambotti
Got questions about why teenagers have trouble sleeping or why insomnia is so difficult to treat during menopause? We get into sleep on this one, from wearable tech tracking to the gold standard of PSG to what the future of understanding sleep holds.
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Ep 66: Opportunity of a Lifetime
03/09/2019
Ep 66: Opportunity of a Lifetime
This one covers one of my favorite stories, Ralph A. telling us about the opportunity of a lifetime. Enjoy the wanderings, for how often to lift weights on a maintenance plan to the latest hobby and books I'm reading. I finish off with a reading of the Letter to Jake. Yaww! Head over to and support the show, thank you!
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Ep 65: Nik-i-sode
02/18/2019
Ep 65: Nik-i-sode
Random thoughts, recent news, and books I'm reading. Capacity for luck, creating a long term high, towels vs toilet paper and what happens when you're not prepared for the best day ever. Let's do this!
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Ep 64: Nik-i-sode
01/02/2019
Ep 64: Nik-i-sode
These are all the thoughts for the podcast gathered since mid-way through November, from the idea that waves & tides might be alien messages to the idea of 1st vs 3rd world consequences and finishes up with what books & movies I'm recommending you read. Enjoy!
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Ep 63: Roy Harris
12/21/2018
Ep 63: Roy Harris
This show with Roy Harris skips most of his (DEEP!) martial arts history and jumps into two things he's passionate about and equally stoked on: Teaching and Human Movement.
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Ep 62: Nik-i-sode, America, Veteran's Day, Billionaires, Climbing Excellence
11/13/2018
Ep 62: Nik-i-sode, America, Veteran's Day, Billionaires, Climbing Excellence
Thanks for the push, Jamie A! This one's for you. For the rest of ya... I had a rad guest lined up who got themselves in a spot of trouble stealing deer stands in Utah. Suffice to say there's more to the story than has been generally reported, but since he's gotten death threats I figured adding information to the internet about him probably wasn't going to help him & his family. So that one's gone. In the meantime I've gotten some good feedback from listeners, including to do a lot more of these Nik-i-sodes. If you have any questions that you'd like to hear me answer, please post 'em up here or shoot me an email and I'll get them answered. Cheers, NFH
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Ep 61: Charlie Groves
10/02/2018
Ep 61: Charlie Groves
Charlie is my kind of adventurer. Father, husband, pilot, sailor, and general fixer of anything broken, Charlie's been a mentor and example to me for a long time. Listen in to hear how a regular guy has lived the life you probably dream about. More at nikhawks.com
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To Be Curious
09/26/2018
To Be Curious
This is a short spoken word piece, less than 5 minutes. It came to me the other day in my truck and I recorded the initial effort. Over the following few days I wrote it all down, refined it, pruned it, made it closer to what I was hoping it would be.
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Ep 60: Nik-i-sode
09/20/2018
Ep 60: Nik-i-sode
This episode covers public speaking, ignorance, the 50 burpees a day challenge, being special, victory, self confidence, a good way to validate when you know what you're doing, bringing up curious children, the savage sitter idea, cryptocurrency tax advice, and the books I'm reading:
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Ep 59: Barb & Doug from Orphan Espresso
09/14/2018
Ep 59: Barb & Doug from Orphan Espresso
B & D first attracted my interest when I went down the coffee rabbithole and discovered the importance of grinding coffee to A) the correct size and B) making sure ALL the grinds were the same size, and not having some large, some small.
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Ep 58: Randy Leavitt
08/05/2018
Ep 58: Randy Leavitt
There are some folks out there who are a little scary in their pursuit of excellence; they have an intensity about them that is damn near palpable. Randy Leavitt is one of those people.
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Ep 57: Gregory Crouch and the Bonanza King
07/24/2018
Ep 57: Gregory Crouch and the Bonanza King
My good friend and author Greg Crouch comes back on the Paleo Treats podcast to discuss the story of John Mackay, one of the four Bonanza Kings who ran the massive profitable Con. Virginia mine on the Comstock Lode.
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Ep 56: Carla Naden and Animal Synergy
07/12/2018
Ep 56: Carla Naden and Animal Synergy
Carla Naden talks about her world of edge cases in the larger world of animal rescue and how she's helping to build a community of people who work together to make animal lives better. From the way she shapes her language to reflect the world she wants to build, to her demonstration by living her principles of what it means to commit fully, Carla is an inspiration for those of us who want to live a life seriously dedicated to our ideals. If you feel, as I do, that Carla's cause is worth supporting, please head over to the and give what you can.
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Ep 55: TJ & Sean from BUBS Naturals
06/12/2018
Ep 55: TJ & Sean from BUBS Naturals
On the surface, the story is straightforward. 2 guys become friends, start a company, decide to donate a percentage to charity.
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Ep 54: Nik Hawks 2
02/13/2018
Ep 54: Nik Hawks 2
I'm back answering a few reader questions and sharing how I'm running my own show. Using affirmations, working hard, reading Terrence McKenna's work, crashing my paraglider, crypto tanking, joy is cheap, and the pulse circle. Enjoy!
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Ep 53: John Gierach
02/05/2018
Ep 53: John Gierach
John Gierach has long been a fly fishing hero of mine. What I didn’t know, but came through clearly in this Paleo Treats Podcast interview, is that he’s also a writing hero.
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Episode 52: Nik Hawks
01/15/2018
Episode 52: Nik Hawks
I share a couple of my "driving-around" thoughts that might trigger something within you. Excellence, daring, intensity, and questioning experts; it's all in there!
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Episode 51: Joshua Cooper Ramo & The Nature of Connection
12/21/2017
Episode 51: Joshua Cooper Ramo & The Nature of Connection
In this interview we dive into the important points of a network, the difference between complex and complicated systems, what topology is and why it matters, and how emergent properties of networks are inevitable.
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Episode 50: Amy Kruse, Neuroscientist
06/12/2017
Episode 50: Amy Kruse, Neuroscientist
Dr. Amy Kruse began tearing things apart as a (very) young girl, ripping apart her first typewriter at 5 years old. Raised as an only child by high school English teachers, she ended up in neuroscience working in the defense industry helping soldiers learn to shoot faster, more accurately. Of course. She currently works at the Platypus Institute, which is an "Applied Neuroscience" institute. That means they figure out how to use what we know about the brain to make humans better. Dr. Kruse wasn't sure what she'd do once she finished her PhD in neuroscience, but quickly fell in to the defense contracting world. Yes, the government knows and wants to know a lot about how your brain works. In this interview we talk about her environment growing up (pretty much the perfect childhood), how she thinks when it comes to "moonshots", "The moon is just a little too close for me", and what she's learned in over 15 years poking around and watching the human brain. From watching how brains interact in a group to accelerating learning in individuals, Dr. Kruse has explored way out to the edge of the possible in neuro-land. We talk about neuro-marketing, neuro-protection, how people become radicalized, and how the next big thing is going to be upgrading our attention span. For those of you paying attention to human performance, Dr. Amy Kruse is definitely someone to watch closely. Enjoy the conversation!
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Episode 49: Chahan Yeretzian, the Coffee Chemist
01/09/2017
Episode 49: Chahan Yeretzian, the Coffee Chemist
"The more we understand, the more rational we are and the more courageous we can be." In this conversation with , a Syrian born Armenian physical chemist based out Switzerland, we dive deep into where the arenas of science, academia, industry, culture, and coffee meet. From the advice he gives his students to why undergrads can't make good enough coffee, to the religion of freshness, this is a fascinating dive into a different world. The elements of quality, the translation between measurements and sensory experience, the way that coffee is a cross cultural experience; all these and more are part of Chahan's world. What will you hear if you listen in? I'm going to try something new, and just include the notes I typed down while editing. Please comment if these are useful, or email me if you'd rather I do your thinking for you. Notes from a convo with Chahan: Plenty of mysteries to solve in coffee. “At the base, good coffee is a sensory experience.” Sensory profiling vs Q grading . What he likes (intensity, strong body, aroma), very taken with smells. “One element of quality is consistency.” A big field is predicting specific sensory attributes based on objective measurements. “Fresh had become a religion, but not an understanding.” The problem is that a lot of people still serve horrible coffee in the industry. Practical and hands on experience that comes from work in industry vs academia. “You go into Origin countries and you’re learning cultures [based] around your product, coffee. “Coffee is a peace building product, a trust building event.” Soluble or instant coffee, coffee. Q grader and co-worker Q grader Coffee shows the connectivity of the world. A very important quality of roasting is…consistency, that you’re able to reproduce what you’re doing. “How does the mineral content of the water affect extraction or flavor profile? We’re still scratching on the surface [of coffee].” We’re looking into how CO2 affects storage, freshness, formation of crema, flavor, acidity notes; it’s like taking one small molecule and trying to get a more rational understanding [of it’s impact.] Creativity based in understanding. Knowledge is freedom and helps people explore new facets of coffee. “Coffee is just as much art as science.” Mold & mycotoxins in coffee? The three ways Chahan makes coffee: -high dollar semi-automatic coffee machines via coffee experts -filter (hand brewed, freshly ground) -Single serve capsule “At home I do filter coffee. I had a professional machine, but it takes too much space.” What I don’t do is French press. Sometimes I do soluble coffee, sometimes I mix it with Nespresso. The research that we do is quite high level, so to do good research on coffee, you can not just rely on undergrads. [The people who make most of the coffee I drink are] highly experienced scientists and also very good in coffee preparation besides being scientists. “How do you roast to increase sweetness, or fruitiness, or a particular flavor note? We have some understanding, but it’s far too little to have any control over the roasting process.” Advice to students: Looking over the borders of where we are. Traveling is vital. Moving between academia and industry and the importance of experiencing both worlds. Academia needs people who have industry experience. The path from Knowledge - Execution - Community Armenian from Aleppo. Armenians have a strong feeling of community and family, strong drive to perform, we are pushed to be the best. A lot of unconditional love from parents. The importance of being competent before you do benevolent work. If you don’t have the competence then you’re wasting your time being benevolent. Further interests: indoor air quality, wine, oakwood aging, 2 kids who are 21 months old. How complexity evolves in our world and how it’s related to self-organization, how life appeared on the planet. Aspect of self organizing complex systems.
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