People in Tax Podcast

The People in Tax Podcast features interviews exploring the stories and careers of ABA Tax Section members, government officials, and others who influence, work in, or study tax law and policy. Our goal is to build community and encourage the participation of individuals from diverse backgrounds and perspectives in the tax law profession.

S06E06: Fatima Garcia - Part 2 01/09/2025

S06E06: Fatima Garcia - Part 2 In S06E06, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Fatima Garcia discuss the role mentorship has played in her career, finding her voice as a practicing attorney, and the responsibility she feels as a Latina in the legal field. (Part 2 of 3). /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/34776525

S06E05: Fatima Garcia - Part 1 12/26/2024

S06E05: Fatima Garcia - Part 1 In S06E05, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Fatima Garcia discuss her unexpected road to tax practice, the importance of representation in the legal field, and the scholarship she founded for her alma mater. (Part 1 of 2). /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/34553170

S06E04: Hannah Stephan 12/12/2024

S06E04: Hannah Stephan In S06E04, Bela Unell and Christine A. Brunswick Public Service Fellow Hannah Stephan discuss her background in Finance, her work with Minnesota Legal Aid, and her close ties to her home state. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/34415125

S06E03: Jorge Oben - Part 2 11/28/2024

S06E03: Jorge Oben - Part 2 In S06E03, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Jorge Oben discuss his work on the Ways and Means Committee, how his background influences his work experiences, and how he keeps himself moving forward in a challenging world. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/34146025

S06E02: Jorge Obén 11/14/2024

S06E02: Jorge Obén In S06E02, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Jorge Obén discuss the uniqueness of tax practice in the US, the pitfalls of international tax, and his experience working with the Ways and Means Committee. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/33932127

S06E01: Jessica Harris 10/31/2024

S06E01: Jessica Harris In S06E01, Bela Unell and Professor and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Jessica Harris discuss her road to tax practice, working in Low-Income Tax Clinics, and improving inclusivity in the tax sphere. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/33707352

S05E15: Shailana Dunn-Wall Part 2 08/03/2023

S05E15: Shailana Dunn-Wall Part 2 In S05E15, William Schmidt and former Christine Brunswick Fellow Shailana Dunn-Wall discuss community education regarding tax, the specifics of LITC works, and the benefits of Tax Section meetings. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/27648750

S05E14: Shailana Dunn-Wall 07/20/2023

S05E14: Shailana Dunn-Wall In S05E14, William Schmidt and former Christine Brunswick Fellow Shailana Dunn-Wall discuss non-profit tax practice, the challenges facing low-income taxpayers, and the benefits of the Christine Brunswick Fellowship. Part 1 of 2. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/27520335

S05E13: Chardea Murray - Part 2 07/06/2023

S05E13: Chardea Murray - Part 2 In S05E13, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Chardea Murray discuss her mentors, her goals for the Fellowship, and the importance of DEI and outreach. Part 2 of 2. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/27388953

S05E12: Chardea Murray 06/22/2023

S05E12: Chardea Murray In S05E12, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Chardea Murray discuss her path to law and tax, getting involved in Pro Bono and LITC work, and her early career at the IRS. Part 1 of 2. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/27235908

S05E11: Jamal Aquil 04/06/2023

S05E11: Jamal Aquil In S05E11, Gina Ahn and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Jamal Aquil discuss the specifics of the Argrett Fellowship, his path to tax practice, the challenges and obstacles he encountered along the way, and the role of the KPMG Washington National Tax Office in DC. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/26467467

S05E10: Alice Thomas - Part 3 03/23/2023

S05E10: Alice Thomas - Part 3 In S05E10, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow, Alice Thomas, discuss giving back to the community, her approach to preparing law students for practice, and the Loretta Collins Argrett Fellowship. Part 3 of 3. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/26317995

S05E09: Alice Thomas - Part 2 03/09/2023

S05E09: Alice Thomas - Part 2 In S05E09, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Alice Thomas discuss her family history, her experiences as a black student, and the role both played in bringing her to Howard. Part 2 of 3. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/26176761

S05E08: Alice Thomas 02/23/2023

S05E08: Alice Thomas In S05E08, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow, Alice Thomas, discuss getting involved in non-profit work, her path to teaching tax law, and how important tax law really is. Part 1 of 3. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/26021985

S05E07: Karen Lapekas 02/09/2023

S05E07: Karen Lapekas In S05E07, Bela Unell and Karen Lapekas discuss LLMs and litigation, litigation in practice, and mentorship in the tax law community. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/25859748

S05E06: Judge Adam B. Landy 11/17/2022

S05E06: Judge Adam B. Landy In S05E06, William Schmidt and Judge Adam B. Landy discuss the duties of Special Trial judges, tips for counsel for a smoother process, and advice for young lawyers. Part 2 of 2 /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/25049694

S05E05: Judge Adam B. Landy 11/08/2022

S05E05: Judge Adam B. Landy In S05E05, William Schmidt and Judge Adam B. Landy discuss learning skills in private practice, applying those skills to the Chief Counsel's Office, and ultimately transitioning to the Tax Court. Part 1 of 2 /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/24953592

S05E04: Erin Collins 10/20/2022

S05E04: Erin Collins In S05E04, William Schmidt and Erin Collins discuss the benefit of working in the IRS Office of Chief Counsel, how things changed in moving to KPMG, some noteworthy cases, how being co-author of the IRS Practice and Procedure Deskbook benefitted her tax controversy practice, how her litigation background prepared her for being National Taxpayer Advocate (NTA), becoming the NTA at the beginning of the pandemic, what people should know when working with the Taxpayer Advocate Service, benefits of the ABA Section of Taxation, and tips for law students or young attorneys interested in tax. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/24746562

S05E03: Judge Eunkyong Choi 09/29/2022

S05E03: Judge Eunkyong Choi In S05E03, William Schmidt and Judge Eunkyong Choi discuss becoming a Special Trial Judge, what the work of a Special Trial Judge includes, how Low Income Taxpayer Clinics assist at Tax Court, typical days for a Special Trial Judge, attending ABA conferences again, and being a mentor for law students or young attorneys in tax. (Part 2 of 2). /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/24530487

S05E02: Judge Eunkyong Choi 09/22/2022

S05E02: Judge Eunkyong Choi In S05E02, William Schmidt and Judge Eunkyong Choi discuss working in Low Income Taxpayer Clinics on tax controversy cases, her family’s immigration to the United States from Korea, being the Taxpayer Advocate in the New York City Department of Finance, and regional tax issues such as dealing with different state tax departments. (Part 1 of 2) /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/24459267

S05E01: Mark Schneider 09/07/2022

S05E01: Mark Schneider In S05E01, Bela Unell and Mark Schneider discuss working in the IRS in the 80s, switching from government work to private firms, and how the two sectors interact. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/24303336

S04E10: Marie Milnes-Vasquez Part 2 08/25/2022

S04E10: Marie Milnes-Vasquez Part 2 In S04E10, in part 2 of 2, Bela Unell and Marie Milnes-Vasquez continue their discussion on becoming an accidental lawyer, opening up more areas of opportunity to people with different backgrounds, and the 'special sauce' that creates a transactional tax attorney. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/24164820

S04E09: Marie Milnes-Vasquez Part 1 08/18/2022

S04E09: Marie Milnes-Vasquez Part 1 In S04E09, in part 1 of 2, Bela Unell and Marie Milnes-Vasquez discuss working on the IRS side of tax, cases that never make it to court, and the interactions between the IRS and organizations like the ABA. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/24095676

Bonus Episode: Bob Wunderle Part 2 08/11/2022

Bonus Episode: Bob Wunderle Part 2 In this two part bonus episode, Susan Morgenstern and Bob Wunderle discuss the Tax Analysts Public Service Fellowship at La Posada in Twin Falls, Idaho. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/24026463

Bonus Episode: Bob Wunderle 08/09/2022

Bonus Episode: Bob Wunderle In this two part bonus episode, Susan Morgenstern and Bob Wunderle discuss the Tax Analysts Public Service Fellowship at La Posada in Twin Falls, Idaho. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/24003189

S04E08: Jonathan Grossberg 08/03/2022

S04E08: Jonathan Grossberg In S04E08, Gina Ahn and Jonathan Grossberg discuss student tax law reviews, the ins and outs of tax law publishing, how to get involved in the tax law publishing world. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/23953053

S04E07: Janice Shih 07/20/2022

S04E07: Janice Shih In S04E07, Gina Ahn and Janice Shih discuss the challenges and rewards of volunteering with Low-Income Tax Clinics, the surprises of tax practice, and how remote work in the pandemic has actually helped Low-Income Tax Clinics connect to a larger area of clientele. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/23810213

S04E06: Samantha Galvin 07/06/2022

S04E06: Samantha Galvin In S04E06, William Schmidt and Samantha Galvin discuss the transition from student to teacher at the University of Denver, teaching in a tax clinic, effects on the clinic from the pandemic and being active in the American Bar Association Section of Taxation. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/23651138

S04E05: Michael Desmond 06/22/2022

S04E05: Michael Desmond In S04E05, William Schmidt and Michael Desmond discuss his time as IRS Chief Counsel, the benefits of public service, and the opportunities available at ABA Tax Section meetings. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/23512769

S04E04: James Creech 06/09/2022

S04E04: James Creech In S04E04, Gina Ahn and James Creech discuss the law school to practice transition, solo practice versus working in a larger firm, and embracing the chaos of tax practice. /episode/index/show/peopleintaxpodcasts/id/23376914

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