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The Beginning of Biblical Cartography - Part 3 "The World Mar of Christianity" Series 04/08/2025

The Beginning of Biblical Cartography - Part 3 "The World Mar of Christianity" Series We continue to use the historical model of Spiral Dynamics to illustrate how worldviews and their evolution related to the interpretation of God identity. The first 2 worldviews illustrated by the Spiral model are Archaic and Tribal. These 2 worldviews show up in the Biblical Narrative as Archaic Adam and Tribal Abraham. Both are in the Genesis of the story. These 2 figures set the stage for the evolution of spiritual consciousness with regard to universal God identity. Understanding how Adam and Abraham understood God identity is a necessary first step in the journey. We are proposing that the Biblical Narrative is actually one seamless story that traces the beginnings of spiritual consciousness all the way to our present day map. Spiritual consciousness with regard to God identity did not start with Jesus. To understand how we have a current map of separation, division and denomination in the world religion of Christianity we have to start at the beginning and then see if we can find where the interpretation of the story got off track along the way. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/36051800

Cartography of Christianity and the Church - Part 2 "The World Map of Christianity" 03/25/2025

Cartography of Christianity and the Church - Part 2 "The World Map of Christianity" We are using cartography to view the Christian landscape via a map. The map helps define the great diversity of churches and denominations. Our series explains why the result of 2,000 years of evolution led to such division. In this episode we use Spiral Dynamics to trace the history of the situation. The state of Christianity and the church must be understood from the beginning or Genesis of the God Identity story. So I show how everything preceding Jesus and the apostolic writers set the stage for an interpretation of Christology that led to a world religion. From here we will propose a new future for Christology, one that results in world-centric unity. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/35853855

The World Map of Christianity... Past, Present and Future - Part 1 03/07/2025

The World Map of Christianity... Past, Present and Future - Part 1 The concept I’ll be using relating to map making is cartography. The audience for this series is any and everyone interested in having a global conversation for a new earth. All are welcome regardless of denominational affiliation or non-affiliation, Catholic or Protestant and those who are now post Christian or Trans-religious. The series will address the map as it evolved from the past, meaning how the map took shape in the first few centuries and then expanded into a world religion of thousands of denominations and factions. We will then address the map as to how it looks today. And I’ll ask each of you to identify your place on today’s map. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/35575300

A Summary of Christology and the Holomovement 05/30/2024

A Summary of Christology and the Holomovement This episode is a summary of the main points related to Christology and the Holomovement. We continue to show how the current problems around Christianity stem from competing interpretations. To illustrate these points I have included a Theology Quiz! I’ve taken the idea from Sesame Street. They have a game entitled, “Which of these things is not like the other?” I will show you 3 diagrams and you have to come up with the correct answer. Who said theology is not fun? #holomovement #biblicalnarrative #theology #christianity #christology #progressivechristianity #universalism #spirituality #sbnr /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/31532462

Law & Grace - Part 5 (Part 2 of Why Sin Doesn't Exist Today) 05/09/2024

Law & Grace - Part 5 (Part 2 of Why Sin Doesn't Exist Today) In this episode we wrap up our in depth look at sin. Sin was a specific condition that was dependent on law. So questions have to be answered. How can sin no longer exist but yet right and wrong do? What is sin beyond right and wrong? Why is the understanding of sin necessary to understanding doing and being? Why do fundamentalist Christians exist? Why do progressive Christians want to distinguish themselves from fundamentalists? What is the next evolution of progressive Christianity? /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/31215282

Law & Grace - Part 4 (Part 1 of Why Sin Doesn't Exist Today) 04/25/2024

Law & Grace - Part 4 (Part 1 of Why Sin Doesn't Exist Today) We continue our discussion about Law and Grace in this episode. Law and grace is a very confusing story when one interprets Christology as a religion. And at the center of any discussion of the Law is the concept of sin. Sin is part of the language of the first covenant/world. Sin has a specific meaning related to the Biblical Narrative. We will discuss how language today in a New Earth has transcended sin language. Yes, there is still right and wrong or obedient/disobedient but I no longer use the word sin in my vocabulary. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/30982943

Law & Grace - Part 3 04/19/2024

Law & Grace - Part 3 We are in the middle of a discussion based on a trans-disciplinary approach to the interpretation of the Biblical Narrative. The series is comparing the Quantum Physics findings about our universe with regard to the Holomovement with the Biblical Narrative. We are proposing that the cosmology of our universe aligns beautifully with Biblical cosmology. Specifically, we’re comparing the Holomovement of our universe with Christology. Neither result in a religion but rather point to a trans-religious source of consciousness and Spirit. Our universe and the Biblical Narrative are both God stories. The Holomovent is to the cosmology of the universe what Christology is to the Narrative. We are proposing that interpreting Christology as a form/religion does not. This part of the series focuses on law and grace. Just as the latest discoveries in Quantum Physics have resulted in new interpretations of our universe so also our integral approach to theology results in a new, wholistic and unified interpretation of the Biblical Narrative. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/30900908

Law & Grace - Part 2 04/09/2024

Law & Grace - Part 2 We continue to compare the new scientific discoveries related to our universe with our approach to a Christology that results in a Post Christian, Trans-religious outcome. The universe is the first story told by God. We propose that the Biblical Narrative mirrors and aligns with that story. Therefore the principles in our own universe provide a trans-disciplinary validation of our approach to Christology. It also illustrates how a divided, denominated Christology, interpreted as a religious form, is very problematic. Today we will consider and discuss both our universe and the narrative in terms of the movement Form, Trans-Form and Formlessness. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/30749473

Law and Grace - Part 1 03/27/2024

Law and Grace - Part 1 We are continuing our series comparing the cosmology of our universe with Biblical cosmology. The next few episodes will focus on one of the most confusing teachings of the world religion Christianity. I’m referring to the concepts of law and grace. At first glance one might wonder what our universe and the Biblical Narrative have in common on this subject. But this series is proposing that the concept of the holomovement in quantum physics aligns beautifully with Christology. However, it’s not the Christology that the Roman Empire handed down 2,000 years ago. It’s not the Christology that is interpreted to be a world religion. It’s not the Christology that divides, separates and denominates. We’re proposing a Christology that reflects the harmony and unity of our universe. We’re proposing a Christology pointing to a trans-religious, post Christian future. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/30565178

The Explicate Order of Biblical Cosmology - Part 4 of The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement 03/05/2024

The Explicate Order of Biblical Cosmology - Part 4 of The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement What does the explicate order of our universe as defined by Quantum Physics have to do with the Biblical Narrative? We continue our series by looking at the in-forming movement that led to the form-ation our universe. This story aligns beautifully with the Biblical version of God’s creative action. Today we look at the realm of form(s) in Biblical cosmology. They made up an initial creation or world that was necessary before the coming of a new creation or new heavens and earth. Our universe consists of 2 orders- an explicate and an implicate. The Biblical Narrative also has 2 orders—the heavens and earth of Genesis 1 and the New Heavens and Earth. We will get to the implicate order in Biblical cosmology later in the series. The movement between these 2 orders changes everything regarding long held interpretations of Christology, eschatology, hamartiology, soteriology and ecclesiology! God has 2 narratives, the universe/holomovement and the Biblical narrative. Their meaning and interpretation will either align or not. God is not a God of confusion. God doesn’t provide 2 conflicting stories. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/30244843

Christianity vs. Christology: The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement 02/22/2024

Christianity vs. Christology: The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement **In continuing our series on the Biblical Narrative as holomovement, I'm recommending you watch the video presentation as it includes 5 diagrams that will be helpful to see as you hear the information. Link to YouTube . In this episode we continue to address the power of convergence. Our proposal is that science is now telling us that the holomovement is nothing less than God’s creative narrative. The radical and dramatic paradigm change is with regard to the interpretation of Christology as a religion, therefore Christianity. We continue to propose that the biblical narrative points away from itself to a universal source or that which is called God. Here are a few of the points that I’ll be discussing in this episode: There is no such thing as ‘the church’. There are only thousands of iterations of what people disagree about ‘the church.’ God’s holomovement narrative is that Christology is transform….it is not a form. We are not eliminating Christology….we’re reinterpreting it. An interpretation that goes beyond a “little God.” The result is universal God identity…not a religion. Christology and the holomovement both tell the story of God’s creative action. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/30065778

The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement - Part 2 02/01/2024

The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement - Part 2 In this series I propose that the holomovement is nothing less than the creative nature of God. Further, I am proposing that when you align the holomovement elements with the Biblical Narrative it provides validation for our ongoing message of universal God identity. This week I'm honored to have Jude Currivan as my guest today. Dr Jude Currivan is a cosmologist, planetary healer, futurist, author, Evolutionary Leaders Circle member and previously a senior UK-based international business woman. #holomovement #spirituality #bible #theology #integral #JudeCurrivan /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/29716833

The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement Part 1 01/25/2024

The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement Part 1 In this series I propose that the holomovement is nothing less than the creative nature of God. Further, I am proposing that when you align the holomovement elements with the Biblical Narrative it provides validation for our ongoing message of universal God identity. The link to view this on YouTube is . /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/29647348

Presence Announces Convergence Project 07/07/2023

Presence Announces Convergence Project Today’s podcast is an update on another exciting project. The field of convergence is revealing the importance of unified approaches that lead to global unity. Science and Spirituality is an example. Presence has already shown how the historical model of Spiral Dynamics validates our approach to the interpretation of the Biblical Narrative. Now we are working with those in the fields of science to do the same. As science and spirituality converge we can now compare how the many different interpretations of the Biblical Narrative either align or don’t align with the science of our universe. I will specifically talk about the concept of the Holomovement and a project I’m working on with Oxford Physicist Dr. Jude Currivan and Evolutionary Biologist Dr. Kurt Johnson. And this soon to be published work (today’s announcement) will lead into my series this Fall on “The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement.” The excitement level is higher than ever about the future of faith especially as it relates to the amazing Biblical Narrative. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/27399633

Presence On The Global Stage 06/29/2023

Presence On The Global Stage It is becoming more and more clear that something different is happening. A paradigm shift like no other before is now in process. It radically reframes long held views that have now become unworkable. In this episode I describe the experience with Tim Nash. Link to video cast interview for Along with Patrick Carolan I discuss this years theme which interestingly enough is, “A Rising New Earth.” The interview is conducted by Ben Bowler and I give some background to his impressive work. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/27322707

The Holomovement Book Release 03/30/2023

The Holomovement Book Release In this podcast episode I discuss the latest news with regard to the major paradigm shifts manifesting around the globe. A new book is now available, I’m honored to have a small part in this collection of essays from leaders representing numerous diverse fields of study and research. It reflects the momentum of something amazing as we enter into this 3rd millennium C.E. Why is Presence a part of a book like this? Well, that’s why we do podcasts! So join me as I outline the next steps for seeing how the Biblical Narrative is contributing to new frontiers of universal love and acceptance. #Holomovement #EvolutionaryLeaders /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/26384436

Max King Memorial Podcast 03/06/2023

Max King Memorial Podcast We’re dedicating this podcast to the life and legacy of Max R. King. On behalf of our family I thank all of you who reached out with such kind words of support. Many of you have shared the impact his work has had in your lives. I couldn’t mention all of you by name but you must know that you were so meaningful to his work. Please also know that I was overwhelmed by so many thoughts as I considered my own personal time with dad over the decades. I did my best to share some things with you so we could honor him and then move ahead with our own efforts and contributions to make this world a better place. #MaxKing #MaxRKing #PresenceMinistry #Presence /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/26144229

A Global Conversation With Dr. Riane Eisler 02/15/2023

A Global Conversation With Dr. Riane Eisler Doug King of interviews Dr. Riane Eisler. Dr. Eisler pioneers-- through her multidisciplinary “Four Cornerstones” approach-- our urgently needed global transition from domination-- to partnership-- models and consciousness (. Her iconic books include The Chalice and the Blade, now in 57 U.S. printings and 30 foreign editions, The Real Wealth of Nations and, most recently Nurturing Our Humanity: How Domination and Partnership Shape Our Brains, Lives, and Future (co-authored with neuroscientist Dr. Douglas P. Fry, Oxford University Press, 2019). /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/25939053

Christianity and Dominator Hierarchies 02/02/2023

Christianity and Dominator Hierarchies We continue our Global Conversation regarding the movement from Dominator Hierarchies to Partnership Societies and families. In this episode I want to discuss this subject regarding gender in the Biblical Narrative and the religion of Christianity historically. So let’s do some theology. Tracking through the Narrative, the creation story culminates with the creation of male and female. In Genesis 2 the story says the 2 become 1. This idea is one of partnership. Domination hierarchies identify power and authority to a specific group and all others are subjects. How is that paradigm trans-formed in the story? Why is it important in the story? How has Christianity been a model of Dominator Hierarchy? #dominatorheirarchy #christianity #genderroles #gender /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/25809885

A Global Conversation Intro 01/26/2023

A Global Conversation Intro In my podcast today I set the stage for this series by giving my observations about the current landscape of Christianity and why there is a new paradigm shift that’s gaining significant energy and excitement as we move into the trans-religious era of history. I’ll also tell you a little about an amazing woman who is 91 years young and who has become known internationally for her work in Big History. It traces the history of Dominator Hierarchies and calls for a shift into Partnership Societies and families. Desmond Tutu said this about Riane’s work, “ It’s a template for the world we so urgently need. So why is Riane doing a podcast with ? And why are people from Quantum Physics, Psychology, Philosophy and many other fields now working with Presence? Listen to learn more. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/25736379

Presence Joins Process and Faith For New Course Offering 09/01/2022

Presence Joins Process and Faith For New Course Offering I am excited and pleased to announce that I will be joining Dr. Sheri Kling, Director of Process and Faith in a 6 weeks course beginning September 13th. Process and Faith operates as part of the Cobb Institute and has considerable influence in the field of theology. The course is entitled: The Biblical Narrative and Universal God Identity; Integral Theology and Process Approaches. For Registration and Course Information click here: /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/24238902

Regeneration and Judgment: Final Episode 06/03/2022

Regeneration and Judgment: Final Episode We end our series on Regeneration and its various concepts and implications regarding God identity. Judgment is at the foundation of a dysfunctional God story. It’s time to grow in our understanding of that which holds all things together. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/23317133

Regeneration and the Ecclesia 05/26/2022

Regeneration and the Ecclesia The implications of God’s regenerative work are dramatic. Human identity is at stake. We’ve spent time talking about the 2 creations and their paradigms of consciousness. One creation produced bondage to sin and death while the new creation delivered humanity from sin and death. The first creation had last days and came to an end. That’s because sin and death is a consciousness paradigm and God was in Christ reconciling that way of seeing. God was in Christ the individual in the process of dying to the first creation and rising as the firstborn one of the new. But why was there a need for the body of Christ or ecclesia? What was the role and function of the church? If so many are leaving the church, could it be that church itself became misunderstood by the Gentiles? The church, as it has been taught and handed down, is now a problem. It’s time to think about how God’s regenerative work was in that body. It’s time to think about a dramatically different future—or keep doing the same thing and wondering why it keeps failing. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/23239763

Regeneration As Related To Sin and Death 05/19/2022

Regeneration As Related To Sin and Death We continue to dig deep into our ancestral roots of identity. The act of regeneration was a process that transformed all things. One of the confusing issues around this discussion relates to sin and death. Why did Paul tell the Gentiles that sin and death were going to be removed when the Deliverer came out of Zion? The Gentiles thought the regeneration process was complete when Christ died on the cross for their sins. If you want to know your ancestry you have to do the research. So once again we research the Narrative for the roots of our universal, world-centric identity. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/23165054

Regeneration and Judgment Part 5 05/05/2022

Regeneration and Judgment Part 5 This episode is about the relationship of judgment to that of love and acceptance. The Gentiles in Rome thought the judgment of God was a process of separating human beings. Paul goes to great lengths to show judgment as that which reveals the basis upon which all are regenerated. The separation of self as source from Spirit as source was the necessary prelude to the acceptance of all. Paul’s teaching that all Israel will be saved has stood in contradiction to the Christian religion’s teaching of condemnation, wrath and casting away for the purpose of tormenting most of the world for eternity. The Gentiles in Rome institutionalized Jesus, made him the founder of a new religion and passed down this judgment message through history. Paul deconstructs this divisive message and clarifies the nature of God’s love and acceptance. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/23015387

Regeneration and Judgment Part 4 04/28/2022

Regeneration and Judgment Part 4 One of the major themes of the God story, handed down for the last 2,000 years, is judgment. We continue to look at what we’ve done with our understanding of God identity as it relates to judgment. When Christology is made into a religious form its boundaries must be policed. The focus of our thinking becomes tribalistic- who’s in, who’s out? This, of course requires judgment to insure those who represent God’s chosen ones. Starting with the Gentiles in Rome, the end result of this approach over the last 2 millennia is leading to the disintegration of church attendance, the closing of seminaries and the lack of interest shown by the younger generation. Now is the time to ask and seek. Now is the time to reconsider long held views of judgmental, condemning language. Is it possible God’s work through Christ offers so much more? Is it possible judgment plays a role in unifying the world by leading to restoration and acceptance for all? /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/22940960

Regeneration and Judgment Part 3 04/22/2022

Regeneration and Judgment Part 3 Regeneration is the process of identity transformation. Our human family first understood identity from a tribal or genealogical point of view. Any encounter with tribes who were different brought conflict and even war. Integral thinkers are now pointing to a movement from ethnocentric to world-centric identity. But this world-centric or integrative movement is challenging to those in religion who attach their identity to a tribe that separates itself from all other tribes. Even within Christianity the embedded tribalism of denominationalism supports the divisiveness of this paradigm. At the heart of the struggle is the issue of judgment. In this episode we continue the conversation for a new earth with regard to the process of casting out and acceptance. Both are part of the story. However, even the element of casting out is to reveal the basis upon which all humanity is accepted and the basis of God’s mercy upon all. And this goes against our ethnocentric instincts. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/22877462

Regeneration and Judgment - Part 2 04/14/2022

Regeneration and Judgment - Part 2 In this episode we continue to look at the relationship between Regeneration and Judgment. The subject of judgment has been a very confusing one through the ages. We discuss the role and function of judgment and why it was necessary to the process of regeneration. We also begin to look at the other side of the reconciliatory process- acceptance. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/22785926

Regeneration and Judgment 04/06/2022

Regeneration and Judgment In this 4th episode in the Regeneration series we incorporate the principles of judgment as taught by Jesus with relation to regeneration. What is the role of judgment in the Narrative? How can we be in a new heaven and earth when there are those who do not belong? And who decides (judges) those accepted and those who are not? We will begin by looking at the context of judgment, throne and regeneration going back to the early history of Israel. Judgment has inflicted more destruction, pain and angst upon humans than some physical violence. It’s place in the God process requires our urgent attention, especially as people are looking for answers beyond old paradigms. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/22693454

The Biblical Narrative, Integral Consciousness and Regeneration-Part 3 03/24/2022

The Biblical Narrative, Integral Consciousness and Regeneration-Part 3 This is episode 3 in our series on The Biblical Narrative, Integral Consciousness and Regeneration. The importance of world-centric thinking is showing itself in the Russian invasion of the Ukraine. All separation thinking leads to discrimination and denomination. The Narrative is a story of the evolution or growth of integral conscious (God as all in all) from ethnocentric thinking that divides people into tribes to a new tier of thinking that has eyes to see human identity as universal. /episode/index/show/presencetv/id/22555883

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