Encounter Culture

New Mexico's deep artistic traditions have long engaged with the multifaceted histories and cultures of the state. At Encounter Culture, we talk with artists, historians, scientists, museum curators, and writers who are all a part of New Mexico's centuries' old lineage of helping us understand the places and people who make the Land of Enchantment so unique. https://podcast.nmculture.org/

Investigating Who We Are Across Media and Millennia: Season Preview with Emily Withnall and Andrea Klunder 09/11/2024

From Exoplanets to Earthly Technology: Exploring Our Fears and Dreams Through Science Fiction with Ness Brown and Chris Orwoll 06/26/2024

Prison Art as an Assertion of Humanity with Museum of International Folk Art Curators Patricia Sigala and Chloe Accardi 06/12/2024

Rolling Into Rural Communities: Bookmobiles and Books by Mail Across New Mexico 05/29/2024

Rolling Into Rural Communities: Bookmobiles and Books by Mail Across New Mexico For many people who live in New Mexico the nearest library might be three hundred miles away. Luckily, the New Mexico State Library runs two excellent rural library services: Books by Mail and three bookmobiles that serve different regions of the state. If you live 20 minutes outside of the city limits of any city in New Mexico, or if you live within city limits but are homebound, or if you can only read large-print books, you can sign up for Books by Mail. The Books by Mail collection contains more than 30,000 titles, including books in Spanish, audiobooks, eBooks, and more. For schools and small communities who want to browse the shelves or access the internet from the bookmobile’s portable satellite terminal, check out the New Mexico State Library website to find out when and where a bookmobile will be stopping near you. And don’t forget to chat with the bookmobile librarian to find out what reading events and projects are offered during stops in your community! “I care about people first. I care about what's going on in their lives,” says Berdina Nieto, the New Mexico State Library Books by Mail librarian and rural services outreach specialist. “Patrons will call just to get their book order and then tell me what's going on in their world, and then I'll do the same. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE RECOMMENDED EPISODES We’d love to hear from you! Send feedback to [email protected]. You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the . Find out how to get yours . *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Editor & Production Manager: Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Theme Music: Instagram: and For a transcript and full show notes, please visit /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/31447822

A History of Genízaro Identity in the Heart of New Mexico with Dr. Gregorio Gonzales 05/15/2024

A History of Genízaro Identity in the Heart of New Mexico with Dr. Gregorio Gonzales What do we lose when we don’t know ALL of our histories? Understanding our great, great, great, great grandparents' lives and how they survived, where they settled or traveled, and what languages they spoke – all of these details reveal so much about who we are and how we landed here in this place, at this moment in time. How our ancestors interacted with other people and with the land has had ripple effects on why things are the way they are today. Dr. Gregorio Gonzales (Comanche, Genízaro), the tribal liaison for the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, works to develop relationships with 23 tribal governments based within New Mexico. DCA divisions interact with as many as 34 American Indian tribal governments, which include tribes with ancestral ties to New Mexico and whose tribal headquarters are located in Arizona, Colorado, Oklahoma, and Texas. Gonzales is uniquely suited to this position due to his impressive knowledge of Indigenous history in the state—including Genízaro history which is still largely unknown in the context of United States history. Even within New Mexico, groups without any connection to a Genízaro identity are not likely to know this history. And as Gonzales reveals, he didn’t understand the full history and context of his Genízaro identity until he was a young adult. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE We’d love to hear from you! Send feedback to [email protected]. You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the . Find out how to get yours . *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Editor & Production Manager: Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Theme Music: Instagram: and For a transcript and full show notes, please visit /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/31268207

Adventure Begins at Your Library: Explore New Mexico Tribal Libraries and Youth Programming 05/01/2024

From Goatheads to Grand Canyons: A Love Letter to the Landscape with New Mexico State Poet Laureate, Lauren Camp 04/17/2024

Protective Threads: Exploring Indigenous Fashion and Advocacy with Bobby Brower and Tara Trudell 02/07/2024

Protective Threads: Exploring Indigenous Fashion and Advocacy with Bobby Brower and Tara Trudell Creating art in the face of grief can be complicated and hard to navigate, especially when the grief feels both private and personal—and a part of a much larger epidemic, like the Missing and Murdered Indigenous People (MMIP) crisis. Both Bobby Brower (Iñupiaq) and Tara Trudell (Santee Sioux/Rarámuri/Mexican/Spanish) found their way into speaking about the MMIP crisis through clothing and adornment that are linked to a long history of protection, prayer, and collaboration. On this episode of Encounter Culture, Brower and Trudell talk with host Emily Withnall about creating Native Alaskan atikluks and creating beads out of paper, respectively, and the reason it is so important to do this work in community. Brower is a fashion designer whose work has been featured on the TV series Alaska Daily and in New York Fashion Week, among others. Trudell is a multi-media artist working in fabric, paper, photography, and film, among other mediums. For both women, the art cannot exist without community, and it is in community that important stories and information can be shared and held. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE We’d love to hear from you! Send feedback to [email protected]. You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the . Find out how to get yours . *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Editor & Production Manager: Theme Music: Special music in this episode: “Kinship Honor – K’é Biyiin,” written by Herman Cody & Radmilla Cody, performed by Radmilla Cody. Courtesy Canyon Records. Also, “Mother’s Words – Amá Bizaad,” written by Herman Cody & Radmilla Cody, performed by Radmilla Cody, courtesy Canyon Records. Instagram: and /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/29829213

Star Parties, Rim-Blown Flutes, and Pueblo History at Jemez Historic Site with Marlon Magdalena 01/24/2024

Keeping New Mexico's Spanish Alive: The National Hispanic Cultural Center's Legacy Project 01/10/2024

Keeping New Mexico's Spanish Alive: The National Hispanic Cultural Center's Legacy Project Traveling to some remote parts of Northern New Mexico can feel a little like traveling back in time. There’s the slower, rural lifestyle and lack of cell reception, for starters, but in some small pockets of rural communities, people still speak a 17th-century dialect of Spanish. Encounter Culture host Emily Withnall speaks with National Hispanic Cultural Center’s executive director, Zack Quintero, archivist Robin Moses, and Librarian Amy Padilla about their work to collect and preserve this ancient Spanish dialect before it disappears—which they say could happen in just fifteen years. Though the mountainous region of Northern New Mexico once helped to preserve this unique dialect, greater connectivity and the forces of assimilation have resulted in fewer native speakers. As Zack, Robin, and Amy reveal, they hope to preserve New Mexican Spanish as a part of their work with NHCC, but their investment in the project is personal, too. To learn more about the Legacy Project, go to . New information will be added to the website as the project progresses. Or visit the National Hispanic Cultural Center in person. The museum is open every day of the week, except Mondays. And if you’re interested in contributing to the project, please contact Zack Quintero at [email protected] or Robin Moses at [email protected]. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE We’d love to hear from you! Send feedback to . You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the . Find out how to get yours . Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Editor & Production Manager: Theme Music: Instagram: /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/29410663

Big, Toothy, and Conveniently Dead: Why We Are Obsessed with Dinosaurs, Featuring Anthony Fiorillo, New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science 12/13/2023

Big, Toothy, and Conveniently Dead: Why We Are Obsessed with Dinosaurs, Featuring Anthony Fiorillo, New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science If you’ve ever been to a Sinclair gas station and see the green dinosaur out front, paleontologist Tony Fiorillo says it’s a fair approximation of New Mexico’s Alamosaurus—which was first discovered in New Mexico more than one hundred years ago. Not only is the Alamosaurus a “New Mexican icon,” as Fiorillo says, but it’s also the only dinosaur discovered in North America so far that appears to have migrated from South America. In addition to his work as a researcher and paleontologist, Dr. Tony Fiorillo is the executive director of the New Mexico Museum of Natural History & Science. His career has covered several continents largely to study dinosaurs and the environments in which they lived. For more than two decades, Fiorillo focused on the Cretaceous of Alaska. There, his teams made significant advances in the understanding of ancient Arctic biodiversity and paleoecosystems as a way of understanding future climates. In this episode, Fiorillo joins Encounter Culture host Emily Withnall in a conversation about arctic dinosaurs, what 19th-century scientists understood about the first dinosaurs they found, and how dinosaurs can provide insight for what’s in store for humans. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE New Mexico Museum of Natural History & Science Benjamin Waterhouse Hawkins dinosaur sculptures at Crystal Palace Dinosaurs at Denali National Park We’d love to hear from you! Send feedback to . You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the . Find out how to get yours . *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Editor & Production Manager: Theme Music: Instagram: /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/29043223

Look Up! Leo Villareal's Astral Array at New Mexico Museum of Art Vladem Contemporary 11/29/2023

Look Up! Leo Villareal's Astral Array at New Mexico Museum of Art Vladem Contemporary What would it be like to see a symphony? How can you capture the rhythm of waves or a murmuration in constellations of light? If anyone can offer a visual representation of multi-sensory experiences, multimedia artist Leo Villareal can. As Villareal shares in his conversation with Encounter Culture host, Emily Withnall, “I think of my tools more like instruments in a way. And I'm making kind of visual music.” is a world-renowned artist with roots in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and in El Paso and Marfa, Texas. He currently lives in Brooklyn where he owns a gallery and oversees a team of artists, engineers, and programmers. His light sculptures can be seen in galleries in Geneva, London, Hong Kong, San Francisco, Madrid, Washington, D.C., Beijing, Amsterdam, New York, and San Antonio—to name a few. Among Villareal’s newest light sculptures is Astral Array, an installation on view permanently in the outdoor breezeway to New Mexico Museum of Art’s new Vladem Contemporary location in the Santa Fe Railyard. Villareal draws inspiration from the natural world, from Indigenous weaving, and from computer coding and programming. Despite the sometimes-impermanent nature of his installations, many of which are site- and time-specific, he appreciates the cycle of creation and dismantling inherent to his work and to the ways in which his continued experiments with light are visible to all. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the . Find out how to get yours . *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Editor & Production Manager: Theme Music: Instagram: /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/28817143

Listen to the Land: Art at Bosque Redondo with Dakota Mace, Daisy Trudell-Mills, and Kéyah Keenan Henry 11/15/2023

Dusty Mesas & Accessible Art: Introducing Our New Host, Emily Withnall 10/18/2023

Democracy is Indigenous: The Power of the Vote with Laura Harris 07/19/2023

Democracy is Indigenous: The Power of the Vote with Laura Harris When Indigenous people vote, they honor their past and forge a better tomorrow for their communities. The act itself remains a complicated exercise. Indigenous voters must contend with a history of colonial rule, the goal of which was to eradicate their way of life, as well as present-day attempts by self-styled “poll watchers” to block their access to polling places or annul their ballots. And yet, democracy has always been Indigenous; a tribe’s power has always rested with its people. Welcome to the sixth and final episode in Encounter Culture’s series about the life and legacy of Miguel Trujillo, a collaboration with the . Encounter Culture host Charlotte Jusinski and series co-host Stephanie Padilla speak with the esteemed Laura Harris of Comanche Nation. Laura has extensive experience in national, state, and local campaigns and political fundraising. She’s also the executive director of . The trio discusses advocacy, education, and voting as paths to protecting Indigenous self-determination; they examine threats Indigenous voters face when participating in the electoral process – and finally recap the series. This episode was recorded in October 2022. Specific references to campaigning efforts and reported voter suppression tactics are from that election season, but voters continue to face similar challenges. Miguel Trujillo's legacy forms the foundation for every conversation in our current series. If you haven’t already, we urge you to catch up on the previous 5 episodes. We’d love to hear from you! What did you think of this season’s collaboration with the New Mexico History Museum about Native American Voting Rights Before and After Trujillo v. Garley? Send feedback to . You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. *** Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Enter to win a package of four CulturePasses and a one-year subscription to El Palacio magazine all valued at $145 by visiting Whether you’re a local resident, or you’re visiting us on your travels, CulturePass is your ticket to each of our 15 museums and historic sites. Enter by August 31, 2023. You must be 18 years or older to apply and there is no purchase necessary. This opportunity is made possible by the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs and the Museum of New Mexico Foundation. *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Stephanie Padilla (Isleta, Laguna, Cochiti) & Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at Technical Director & Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Consulting Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Associate Producer & Editor: Alex Riegler Show Notes: Lisa Widder Social Media Design: Caitlin Sunderland Theme Music: Instagram: For more, visit Special thank you to Clark Tenakhongva, along with Gary Stroutsos and Matthew Nelson, for the incredible Hopi music featured throughout all 6 episodes of this season. Their new album Hon Muru is set to release in August 2023 and will be available for purchase along with their other recordings on Bandcamp and at . This season was made possible due to the generosity of the National Endowment for the Humanities and the family of Miguel and Ruchanda Trujillo. /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/27491670

You Can Make a Difference in Your Community with Kara Bobroff 07/12/2023

You Can Make a Difference in Your Community with Kara Bobroff In this episode, Encounter Culture host Charlotte Jusinski and series co-host Stephanie Padilla, a member of Isleta Pueblo, trace a throughline from Miguel Trujillo to their guest Kara Bobroff (Diné /Lakota), an educator honored by President Barack Obama as one of the best emerging social entrepreneurs in the country. Kara’s exceptional career achievements include her current role as executive director of One Generation (One Gen) and founder of the (NACA) and (NISN). If knowledge is power, access is the key to unlocking its potential. Kara has made it her life’s work to provide every Native child a way in. “I think at the center of how I was raised is really being of service to others and understanding that anything is possible. The trio discusses Kara’s incredible personal journey, her commitment to supporting Indigenous youth, and how culturally competent education provides Native communities the tools they need to continue their fight for equal rights and protection. This season, Encounter Culture is sharing the story of Miguel Trujillo, an unsung hero of voting rights activism for Native Americans in New Mexico. His legacy forms the foundation for every conversation in our series. If you haven’t already, we urge you to catch up on episodes one, two, three, and four. *** Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Enter to win a package of four CulturePasses and a one-year subscription to El Palacio magazine all valued at $145 by visiting Whether you’re a local resident, or you’re visiting us on your travels, CulturePass is your ticket to each of our 15 museums and historic sites. Enter by August 31, 2023. You must be 18 years or older to apply and there is no purchase necessary. This opportunity is made possible by the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs and the Museum of New Mexico Foundation. *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Stephanie Padilla (Isleta, Laguna, Cochiti) & Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at Technical Director & Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Consulting Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Associate Producer & Editor: Alex Riegler Show Notes: Lisa Widder Social Media Design: Caitlin Sunderland Theme Music: Instagram: For more, visit Special thank you to Clark Tenakhongva, along with Gary Stroutsos and Matthew Nelson, for the incredible Hopi music featured throughout all 6 episodes of this season. Their new album Hon Muru is set to release in August 2023 and will be available for purchase along with their other recordings on Bandcamp and at . This season was made possible due to the generosity of the National Endowment for the Humanities and the family of Miguel and Ruchanda Trujillo. /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/27428106

A Generational Shift: Exploring Citizenship and Identity with Dr. Porter Swentzell 07/05/2023

A Generational Shift: Exploring Citizenship and Identity with Dr. Porter Swentzell Voter participation often begins with a simple question: Why should I bother? For Indigenous people, the answers come tangled in hundreds of years of broken treaties, systemic racism, and voter access restrictions like those that Miguel Trujillo fought to overturn. And yet, Dr. Porter Swentzell (Santa Clara Pueblo) challenges the notion that engaging with the colonizer’s process can’t work in tribes’ favor. Judge June Lorenzo (Laguna Pueblo and Navajo/Diné) agrees. Judge Lorenzo works tirelessly to connect with Indigenous voters and ease their way once at the polls. Welcome to the fourth episode in Encounter Culture’s collaboration with the New Mexico History Museum exploring Indigenous voting rights before and after Trujillo v. Garley. If you’ve never heard of the case or the inspiring story of Miguel Trujillo, we encourage you to check out the last three episodes. Then join us here to learn about the complicated realities surrounding Indigenous suffrage with Dr. Porter Swentzell), executive director at Kha’p’o Community School, tribal leader, and invaluable consultant on this project, and June Lorenzo, chief judge of Pueblo of Zia. *** Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Enter to win a package of four CulturePasses and a one-year subscription to El Palacio magazine all valued at $145 by visiting Whether you’re a local resident, or you’re visiting us on your travels, CulturePass is your ticket to each of our 15 museums and historic sites. Enter by August 31, 2023. You must be 18 years or older to apply and there is no purchase necessary. This opportunity is made possible by the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs and the Museum of New Mexico Foundation. *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Stephanie Padilla (Isleta, Laguna, Cochiti) & Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at Technical Director & Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Consulting Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Associate Producer & Editor: Alex Riegler Show Notes: Lisa Widder Social Media Design: Caitlin Sunderland Theme Music: Instagram: For more, visit Special thank you to Clark Tenakhongva, along with Gary Stroutsos and Matthew Nelson, for the incredible Hopi music featured throughout all 6 episodes of this season. Their new album Hon Muru is set to release in August 2023 and will be available for purchase along with their other recordings on Bandcamp and at . This season was made possible due to the generosity of the National Endowment for the Humanities and the family of Miguel and Ruchanda Trujillo. /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/27358308

The Land is Everything: Voting Rights vs Tribal Sovereignty with Dr. Maurice Crandall 06/28/2023

The Land is Everything: Voting Rights vs Tribal Sovereignty with Dr. Maurice Crandall Long before colonizers imposed their political ideologies upon Indigenous people, many tribes governed themselves by community consensus. Today, Native people who are citizens of federally recognized tribes are afforded a kind of dual citizenship in the US: subject to the traditional rule of their tribal government and also that of the federal government. How does the tribal ideal of cooperative agreement square with the “founding fathers” vision for majority rule? And what obligation do tribal communities have in honoring the settler system of governance? Encounter Culture host Charlotte Jusinski and series co-host Stephanie Padilla (Isleta, Laguna Cochiti), dig into the complexities of tribal sovereignty, systems of government, and citizenship with Dr. Maurice S. Crandall (Yavapai-Apache), Associate Professor of History at Arizona State University School of Historical, Philosophical and Religious Studies, and author of These People Have Always Been a Republic. This season, Encounter Culture is sharing the story of Miguel Trujillo, an unsung hero of voting rights activism for Native Americans in New Mexico. His legacy forms the foundation for every conversation in our series. If you haven’t already, we urge you to catch up on episodes one and two. *** Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. To celebrate this season’s collaboration with the , we’d like to thank you for being a part of our listening community at Encounter Culture. Enter to win a package of four CulturePasses and a one-year subscription to El Palacio magazine all valued at $145 by visiting Whether you’re a local resident, or you’re visiting us on your travels, CulturePass is your ticket to each of our 15 museums and historic sites. Enter by August 31, 2023. You must be 18 years or older to apply, and there is no purchase necessary. This opportunity is made possible by the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs and the Museum of New Mexico Foundation. *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Stephanie Padilla (Isleta, Laguna, Cochiti) & Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at Technical Director & Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Consulting Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Associate Producer & Editor: Alex Riegler Show Notes: Lisa Widder Social Media Design: Caitlin Sunderland Theme Music: Instagram: For more, visit Special thank you to Clark Tenakhongva, along with Gary Stroutsos and Matthew Nelson, for the incredible Hopi music featured throughout all 6 episodes of this season. Their new album Hon Muru is set to release in August 2023 and will be available for purchase along with their other recordings on Bandcamp and at . This season was made possible due to the generosity of the National Endowment for the Humanities and the family of Miguel and Ruchanda Trujillo. /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/27279189

Who Was Miguel Trujillo? In the Words of His Granddaughter 06/21/2023

Who Was Miguel Trujillo? In the Words of His Granddaughter How do you take the measure of a man, especially one as reticent about his history-making accomplishment as Miguel Trujillo? If you’ve never heard of Miguel or Trujillo v. Garley, the landmark 1948 case that provided Native Americans residing on tribal lands in New Mexico the right to vote, settle in for this intimate portrait of a true American hero. This is the second episode in Encounter Culture’s collaboration with the exploring the fascinating story of Native American suffrage before and after Trujillo v. Garley. If you haven’t already, we recommend you check out , as it forms the foundation of the entire season. Then join host Charlotte Jusinski and series co-host Stephanie Padilla (Isleta, Laguna, Cochiti) here as they piece together the extraordinary life of Miguel Trujillo, an unsung champion of the voting rights movement who’s perhaps better known as a beloved husband, father, and grandfather––with Karen Waconda, Native healer, community health educator, and granddaughter of Miguel Trujillo. Cover Photo: Miguel and Ruchanda Trujillo, ca. 1980. Photograph courtesy Dr. Michael Trujillo. *** Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. To celebrate this season’s collaboration with the , we’d like to thank you for being a part of our listening community at Encounter Culture. Enter to win a package of four CulturePasses and a one-year subscription to El Palacio magazine all valued at $145 by visiting Whether you’re a local resident, or you’re visiting us on your travels, CulturePass is your ticket to each of our 15 museums and historic sites. Enter by August 31, 2023. You must be 18 years or older to apply, and there is no purchase necessary. This opportunity is made possible by the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs and the Museum of New Mexico Foundation. *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Stephanie Padilla (Isleta, Laguna, Cochiti) & Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at Technical Director & Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Consulting Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Associate Producer & Editor: Alex Riegler Show Notes: Lisa Widder Social Media Design: Caitlin Sunderland Theme Music: Instagram: For more, visit Special thank you to Clark Tenakhongva, along with Gary Stroutsos and Matthew Nelson, for the incredible Hopi music featured throughout all 6 episodes of this season. Their new album Hon Muru is set to release in August 2023 and will be available for purchase along with their other recordings on Bandcamp and at . This season was made possible due to the generosity of the National Endowment for the Humanities and the family of Miguel and Ruchanda Trujillo. /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/27198561

Trujillo v Garley: the Landmark Case for Native American Voting Rights in New Mexico 06/14/2023

Trujillo v Garley: the Landmark Case for Native American Voting Rights in New Mexico The right of every United States citizen to vote in local, state, and national elections is as American as the laws that have barred many groups from accessing the ballot box. Women, people of color, the unhoused––all have fought to claim their rightful place at the table of democracy. So, too, have Native Americans. This season, we’ve partnered with the (NMHM) to bring you the fascinating story of Native American suffrage before and after Trujillo v. Garley, the landmark case of 1948. In 1948, Miguel Trujillo (Isleta Pueblo) walked into the Valencia County clerk’s office with the intent to register to vote as a Native American. He was denied, of course. This affront set in motion a legal challenge that would eventually topple decades of institutionalized discrimination. But the story of Trujillo v. Garley doesn’t end there. Nor does it begin on that fateful day. Stephanie Padilla (Isleta Pueblo), attorney for the Children's Court, State of New Mexico, joins Charlotte Jusinski as co-host this season. Stephanie worked directly with the NMHM as Guest Curator to preserve Miguel’s achievement through the recollections of those who know his story best: Laura Harris (Comanche), executive director of Americans for Indian Opportunity; Michael Trujillo (Isleta Pueblo), MD, former director of the Indian Health Service, and son of Miguel Trujillo; Gordon Bronitsky, PhD, president, Bronitsky and Associates; Karen Waconda (Isleta Pueblo), community health educator, Native healer, and granddaughter of Miguel Trujillo; John Waconda, Jr. (Isleta Pueblo), restoration partnership coordinator with U.S. Forest Service, and grandson of Miguel Trujillo; Dr. Porter Swentzell (Santa Clara Pueblo), executive director, Kha’p’o Community School, and tribal leader; Dr. Maurice S. Crandall (Yavapai-Apache), associate professor of history, Arizona State University School of Historical, Philosophical and Religious Studies; Kara Bobroff (Diné/Lakota), executive director of One Generation Fund, founder of the Native American Community Academy (NACA) and NACA-Inspired School Network (NISN), and advisor to the Miguel Trujillo project; and June L. Lorenzo (Laguna Pueblo/Navajo (Diné), chief judge, Zia Pueblo. Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. To celebrate this season’s collaboration with the , we’d like to thank you for being a part of our listening community at Encounter Culture. Enter to win a package of four CulturePasses and a one-year subscription to El Palacio magazine all valued at $145 by visiting Whether you’re a local resident, or you’re visiting us on your travels, CulturePass is your ticket to each of our 15 museums and historic sites. Enter by August 31, 2023. You must be 18 years or older to apply, and there is no purchase necessary. This opportunity is made possible by the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs and the Museum of New Mexico Foundation. *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Stephanie Padilla (Isleta Pueblo) & Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Consulting Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Associate Producer & Editor: Alex Riegler Show Notes: Lisa Widder Social Media Design: Caitlin Sunderland Theme Music: Instagram: For more, visit Special thank you to Clark Tenakhongva, along with Gary Stroutsos and Matthew Nelson, for the incredible Hopi music featured throughout all 6 episodes of this season. Their new album Hon Muru is set to release in August 2023 and will be available for purchase along with their other recordings on Bandcamp and at . This season was made possible due to the generosity of the National Endowment for the Humanities and the family of Miguel and Ruchanda Trujillo. /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/27131337

How to Write About Art and Environment with Emily Withnall, El Palacio 04/05/2023

Geology in New Mexico with a Side Gig in Space with Jayne Aubele and Dr. Larry Crumpler 03/22/2023

Healthy Escapism: The State Library for the Blind and Print Disabled with Tim Donahue and Berdina Nieto 03/08/2023

Art That Is For Everyone: Cristina González and Katie Doyle, Vladem Contemporary 02/22/2023

Discovering Delight with Rachel Preston: Celebrating the Girard Wing's 40th Anniversary at the Museum of International Folk Art 11/30/2022

Science Fiction for Social Justice: Fronteras del Futuro at the National Hispanic Cultural Center Art Museum with Jadira Gurulé and Augustine Romero 11/09/2022

What Have the Trees Seen? New Mexico Folklore at Los Luceros Historic Site with Carly Stewart and Rebecca Ward 10/26/2022

Everything Past is Present at Los Luceros Historic Site with Rebecca Ward and Carly Stewart 10/12/2022

Season 3 - Beneath the Surface 10/07/2022

Words on Walls with Dr. Maggie DePond, Exhibition Copy Editor for Santa Fe Museums and Historic Sites 07/27/2022

Words on Walls with Dr. Maggie DePond, Exhibition Copy Editor for Santa Fe Museums and Historic Sites Word nerds and punctuation perfectionists rejoice! Encounter Culture host Charlotte Jusinski ends the season in grand, grammatically correct fashion with Dr. Maggie DePond, exhibition copy editor for the . Maggie also lends her talents to El Palacio magazine, casting a last, learned glance over every issue before it goes live. The pair geek out over the intricacies of language, style guide rivalries, and challenges associated with distilling eons of information into 100-word captions. Buckle in for syntax shenanigans, a touch of ASMR, and permission to end sentences with a preposition. Ever wondered who edits all the text accompanying every exhibition in the four state museums of Santa Fe (the New Mexico Museum of Art, the Museum of International Folk Art, the New Mexico History Museum, and the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture)? The answer is Dr. Maggie DePond. The work, which is often tedious, requires a tenacious character and plenty of red pencils. For all its old-fashioned aspects, copy editing is a revolutionary profession. Who else but a copy editor could refer to medieval usage of the singular “they/them” to support our modern personal pronoun debate? “I feel that by doing that,” Maggie says, “I’m also teaching other writers what language is, the spectrum of language, and how language can evoke feelings.” And, by extension, every lucky museum goer in the state. Thank you for joining Encounter Culture this season. Season three coming soon! MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Visit for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more. *** Encounter Culture, a production of the , is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at Technical Director: Recording Engineer: Kabby at Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Show Notes: Lisa Widder Associate Editor: Helen King Theme Music: Instagram: For more, visit /episode/index/show/presentedbydca/id/23864823

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