Making Contact
“Making Contact” digs into the story beneath the story—contextualizing the narratives that shape our culture. Produced by Frequencies of Change Media (FoC Media), the award-winning radio show and podcast examines the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground, building a more just world through narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the environment, labor, economics, health, governance, and arts and culture.
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The Agony and the Ecstasy: Race and the Future of the Love Story
12/31/2025
The Agony and the Ecstasy: Race and the Future of the Love Story
In 2019 a well known romance writer began tweeting about other writers in her community and concerns about racism. It led to a huge reckoning within an organization called the Romance Writers of America. And although the online debate seemed to be isolated to a specific community of romance writers and their fans, it was really a microcosm of what's been happening all over the US. In this episode we learn all about romance novels and how newer writers are changing the norms of the genre, and giving it a political power it's never had before. And, we talk about what it means for organizations to change as they grapple with questions of race. This episode, originally released in June 2022, is part of the Making Contact Anniversary Capsule: celebrating 30 years of social justice journalism. The miniseries takes us from protests on the streets of Seattle to an Indiana family fighting for their daughter’s gender affirming care. It explores a racial reckoning in the world of romance writers, and tells the story of border walls from Gaza to Arizona. These shows embody how Making Contact has been digging into the story beneath the story since 1994. Featuring: - Jayashree Kamble; professor of English Literature at La Guardia Community College - Reagan Jackson; co-executive director, Young Women Empowered, also a romance reader and fan - Contance Grady; Senior Culture Reporter for Vox - Elise Staples, member of a romance reading book club through meetup.com Credits: **Making Contact Team** - Episode Host: Salima Hamirani - Producers: Salima Hamirani, Anita Johnson, Lucy Kang, Amy Gastelum - Executive Director: Jina Chung - Engineer: [Jeff Emtman](https://jeffemtman.com/) - Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonorain **Music**: - Johnny Ripper - Overout - Johnny Ripper - Sfhk (mental breakdown) - Johnny Ripper - Untitled (waking up) - Johnny Ripper - In a Dream - Dance of the Seahorse - Gideon Freudman - Pictures of the Floating World - Waves - Bio Unit - Subterannean - Ketsa - you asked Learn More: Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Family Matters: How Communities Support Trans Kids in Conservative States (Encore)
12/24/2025
Family Matters: How Communities Support Trans Kids in Conservative States (Encore)
In 2023, Kirin Clawson’s endocrinologist placed a puberty-blocking implant in her arm, a medical intervention that is associated with improved mental health for many trans kids with gender dysphoria. In February 2024, Indiana joined several other conservative states banning this treatment for minors. In this episode we hear from the Clawsons how the ban has impacted their family. And, we hear from psychologist, Dr. Myeshia Price about how all adults in the lives of children can support gender diverse youth, despite increasing discriminatory anti-trans laws aimed at kids. This episode, originally released in June 2024, kicks off the Making Contact Anniversary Capsule: celebrating 30 years of social justice journalism. The miniseries will take us from protests on the streets of Seattle to an Indiana family fighting for their daughter’s gender affirming care. It will explore a racial reckoning in the world of romance writers, and tell the story of border walls from Gaza to Arizona. These shows embody how Making Contact has been digging into the story beneath the story since 1994. Featuring: This episode features the Clawson family including Beth, mother and Child Health Worker; Nathaniel, father and Project Manager; and children Kirin, Max, and Izzy Clawson. The episode also features Dr. Myeshia Price, an Associate Professor at Indiana University in the Human Development program within the Department of Counseling & Educational Psychology and Associate Research Scientist with the Kinsey Institute; and Bradford Barrett, Indiana State House Representative. Credits: This episode is hosted by Amy Gastelum with Production Assistant Emily Miles. It is produced by Anita Johnson, Lucy Kang, Salima Hamirani, and Amy Gastelum. Our executive director is Jina Chung. is our engineer and LIssa Deonorain does digital media marketing. Learn More: | | | | | | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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How The First Home Pregnancy Test Was Born (Encore)
12/17/2025
How The First Home Pregnancy Test Was Born (Encore)
In 1965 Margaret Crane was a young designer creating packaging for a pharmaceutical company when a scientist gave her a tour of the lab. Looking at the long rows of pregnancy tests she thought, well anyone could do that test at home! So she set about designing a prototype for America’s first home pregnancy test. While the design of the prototype was simple, convincing the company, the medical community and conservative social leaders that at-home pregnancy testing was safe and necessary was an uphill climb for Crane, who is only now receiving credit for her contributions to the industry. This show first aired in February 2024. Featuring: Margaret Crane - Graphic designer and inventor of the first home pregnancy test Wendy Kline - Dema G. Seelye Chair in the History of Medicine, History Faculty Purdue University Jesse Olszynko-Gryn - Head of the [Laboratory for Oral History and Experimental Media](https://www.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/research/projects/laboratory-oral-history-and-experimental-media) at Max Planck Institute for the History of Science Arthur Kover - Emeritus Professor of Marketing, Fordham University Alexandra Lord - Chair, Division of Medicine and Science at the National Museum of American History Making Contact Staff: Host: Amy Gastelum Guest Producer: Anne Noyes Saini Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Editor: Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonorain Music: Podington Bear, Rhythm and Strings Learn More: National Museum of American History A Woman's Right to Know, Pregnancy Testing in 20th Century Britain - Predictor, by Jennifer Blackmer Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Flemmie Kittrell and the Preschool Experiment from Lost Women of Science (Encore)
12/10/2025
Flemmie Kittrell and the Preschool Experiment from Lost Women of Science (Encore)
Dr. Flemmie Kittrell was a Black home economist whose research in the field of early childhood education shaped the way we think about child development today. She became the first Black woman to earn a Ph.D. in nutrition and contributed immensely to programs like Head Start – even though her name is often left out of the history. We'll hear more about her life and work in a story from the podcast Lost Women of Science, hosted by Carol Sutton Lewis and Danya AbdelHameid. This episode first aired on Making Contact in March 2025. Featuring: Dolores Caffey-Fleming, Program director of Project STRIDE, Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science Allison Horrocks, Public historian Lauren Bauer, fellow in Economic Studies at the Brookings Institution Credits: Making Contact Episode host and producer: Lucy Kang Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music "Science Documentary" by (Lexin_Music) via Lost Women of Science: "Flemmie Kittrell and the Preschool Experiment" Credits Hosted by Danya AbdelHameid and Carol Sutton Lewis Written and produced by Danya AbdelHameid with senior producer Elah Feder Music composed by Lizzie Younan Episode sound designed and mastered by Alex Sugiura Executive producers: Amy Scharf and Katie Hafner Chief multimedia editor at our publishing partner, Scientific American: Jeff Delviscio Listen to the full episode from Lost Women of Science: Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Disability Visibility: Celebrating the Voice of Alice Wong
12/03/2025
Disability Visibility: Celebrating the Voice of Alice Wong
This episode honors the life and legacy of Alice Wong (Mar 27, 1974-Nov 14, 2025). We start the show with the Making Contact segment she produced in 2015, exploring the complex relationships between caregivers and care receivers: the vast majority of care recipients are exclusively receiving unpaid care from a family member, friend, or neighbor. The rest receive a combination of family care and paid assistance, or exclusively paid formal care. Whether you’re a paid home care provider, or rely on personal assistance to meet your daily needs, or a family member caring for a loved one, the nature of the working relationship depends on mutual respect and dignity. The segment includes a conversation with Patty Berne, co-founder of Sins Invalid, who passed away in May 2025. The show continues with an excerpt from Wong's powerful essay, [Diversifying Radio with Disabled Voices](https://focmedia.org/2016/04/diversifying-radio-with-disabled-voices/), which is a powerful call for better inclusion and representation of disabled voices in audio journalism. The episode closes with Alice's reading of Laura Hershey's 1991 poem You Get Proud by Practicing. Featuring: Camille Christian, home care provider and SEIU member Brenda Jackson, home care provider and SEIU member Patty Berne, co-founder and director, Sins Invalid Jessica Lehman, executive director, San Francisco Senior and Disability Action Kenzi Robi, president, San Francisco IHSS (In Home Supportive Services) Public Authority Governing Body Rachel Stewart, queer disabled woman passionate about disability and employment issues Alana Theriault, disability benefits counselor in Berkeley, California Ingrid Tischer, director of development, Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund (DREDF) Episode Credits: Host: Jessica Partnow and Laura Flynn Segment Producer: Alice Wong Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music: Dexter Britain: , Gillicuddy: , Steve Combs: , Jason Shaw: , Jared C. Balogh: , Jared C. Balogh: , Nheap: , Cherly KaCherly: , Trio Metrik: , Kevin MacLeod: Learn More: , by Alice Wong | | , by Alice Wong | | | | | | | | | | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Exposed Part 2: the Human Radiation Experiments at Hunter's Point from SF Public Press
11/24/2025
Exposed Part 2: the Human Radiation Experiments at Hunter's Point from SF Public Press
In Episode 2 of “Exposed” from our friends at San Francisco Public Press, we explore a little-known chapter in San Francisco’s nuclear era: human experiments carried out to assess the health effects of radiation. Scientists from the Naval Radiological Defense Laboratory, located at the Hunters Point Naval Shipyard, designed and executed at least 24 experiments that involved gathering data from humans — in some cases, injecting test subjects with radioisotopes or having them ingest fluids laced with trace amounts of radioactive materials. Even football players from the San Francisco 49ers were enrolled as test subjects in these so-called tracer studies. We hear from military veterans who were sent on a mysterious mission to spread radioactive substances onto rooftops at an Army base near Pittsburg, Calif., for an experiment the radiation lab played a role in designing. Some recount experiences of witnessing nuclear bomb blasts in the Nevada desert. We also examine a national pattern of human radiation experiments revealed by Eileen Welsome, the author of a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigation, who shined a light on similar practices conducted by government facilities, hospitals and other institutions. This miniseries first aired on Making Contact in February 2025. Featuring: Eldridge Jones, served in the military and was part of Operation Stoneman | Merle Votaw, a Navy veteran who participated in Operation Stoneman II | Eileen Welsome, author of "Plutonium Files" | Holly Barker, Anthropologist and professor at the University of Washington who studied the Marshall Islands. Credits: San Francisco Public Press: Reporting: Chris Roberts and Rebecca Bowe Editing: Michael Stoll and Liz Enochs Research Editing: Ambika Kandasamy Web Design: John Angelico Copy Editing: Kurt Aguilar, Michele Anderson and Richard Knee Archival Research and Illustration: Stacey Carter Audio Editing: Liana Wilcox, Mel Baker and Megan Maurer Sound Gathering: Justin Benttinen Photography: Sharon Wickham, Yesica Prado and Guillermo Hernandez Graphic Design: Reid Brown Fact Checking: Dani Solakian and Ali Hanks Proofreading: Lila LaHood, Noah Arroyo, Zhe Wu and Sylvie Sturm Special thanks to Alastair Gee and Danielle Renwick at The Guardian and Ben Trefny at KALW Public Radio, and to Laura Wenus and Amy Pyle Making Contact: Host: Salima Hamirani Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Editor: Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonorain Music Credits: Midday, by the Blue Dot Sessions | Sweet Leilani, by Bing Crosby Learn More: [ | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Exposed Part 1: the Human Radiation Experiments at Hunter's Point from SF Public Press (Encore)
11/19/2025
Exposed Part 1: the Human Radiation Experiments at Hunter's Point from SF Public Press (Encore)
Today we present the first half of a two-part radio documentary from our friends at SF Public Press, “Exposed,” opening a window into the little-known history of the Hunters Point Naval Shipyard. The sprawling abandoned naval base, in San Francisco’s southeast waterfront Bayview neighborhood, is currently the site of the city’s largest real estate development project. The base played a key role in the Cold War nuclear era, when it housed a research institution known as the Naval Radiological Defense Laboratory, which studied the human health effects of radiation. In Episode 1 of the podcast, we trace the radioactive contamination found in the shipyard soil today back to its origins, with nuclear bomb testing in the Marshall Islands. We also hear from environmental justice advocates, including one who led a health biomonitoring survey revealing that nearby residents have toxic elements stored in body tissues that match the hazardous chemicals of concern identified at the shipyard. It first aired on Making Contact in February 2025. Featuring: **Ahimsa Porter Sumchai, **community advocate and medical doctor | **Michelle Pierce:, **Executive director of [Bayview Hunters Point Community Advocates]( | **Leaotis Martin, **resident of Bayview | **Raymond Tompkins, **community advocate, chemist and former member of the Hunters Point Shipyard Restoration Advisory Board | **Daniel Hirsch, **president of Committee to Bridge the Gap | **Derek Robinson; **Navy representative. Credits: **San Francisco Public Press:** Reporting: Chris Roberts and Rebecca Bowe Editing: Michael Stoll and Liz Enochs Research Editing: Ambika Kandasamy Web Design: John Angelico Copy Editing: Kurt Aguilar, Michele Anderson and Richard Knee Archival Research and Illustration: Stacey Carter Audio Editing: Liana Wilcox, Mel Baker and Megan Maurer Sound Gathering: Justin Benttinen Photography: Sharon Wickham, Yesica Prado and Guillermo Hernandez Graphic Design: Reid Brown Fact Checking: Dani Solakian and Ali Hanks Proofreading: Lila LaHood, Noah Arroyo, Zhe Wu and Sylvie Sturm Special thanks to Alastair Gee and Danielle Renwick at The Guardian and Ben Trefny at KALW Public Radio, and to Laura Wenus and Amy Pyle **Making Contact:** Host: Salima Hamirani Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Editor: Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong Engineer: [Jeff Emtman](https://www.jeffemtman.com/) Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonorain **Music Credits:** Midday, by the Blue Dot Sessions Sweet Leilani, by Bing Crosby Learn More: Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Kev Choice: Love, Growth, and the Power of Music (Encore)
11/12/2025
Kev Choice: Love, Growth, and the Power of Music (Encore)
We sit down with Kev Choice, a classically trained pianist, rapper, composer, and educator, who has reshaped the Bay Area music scene. Raised in Oakland with San Francisco roots, Kev blends hip-hop, jazz, soul, and classical music into a unique sound. His latest EP, _All My Love_, explores themes of love, vulnerability, and human connection, with soulful melodies and reflective lyrics capturing the complexities of relationships. This episode first aired in November 2024. Featuring Kev Choice Making Contact Team Episode host: Anita Johnson Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Learn More | | | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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The Way Home (Encore)
11/05/2025
The Way Home (Encore)
To mark Indigenous People's Day, we'll hear two stories about communities working with food to revitalize identity and ancestry. First, we speak to Mariah Gladstone and Kenneth Cook in Blackfeet Nation in Montana about their online cooking show Indigikitchen and follow them into the field as they harvest a bison. Then, we talk to Dr. Keitlyn Alcantara about the Tlaxcala, an indigenous tribe living in central Mexico who were able to survive the expansive Aztec empire in the period just before colonization, and visit the Healing Garden at Hilltop in Bloomington, Indiana, where diaspora members connect with familiar plants, the earth and each other. This show first aired in August 2022. Featuring: Kenneth Cook, helps operate Indigikitchen Mariah Gladstone, founder of Indigikitchen Boyd Evans, rancher on Blackfeet Nation Dr Keitlyn Alcantara, assistant professor of archeology at Indiana University Margarita Martinez Osorio, PhD student of history at Indiana University Andre Bispo de Jesus, gardener at Indiana University Making Contact Team: Guest Reporter: Kathleen Shannon Episode hosts: Salima Hamirani and Amy Gastelum Staff Producers: Anita Johnson, Amy Gastelum, Salima Hamirani and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Marketing Manager: Lissa Deonarain Music Credits: Caslo – Freedom Jonny Ripper – Opening Credits Danny Bale – Grevillia Music Learn More: Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Criminalized Survival (Encore)
10/29/2025
Criminalized Survival (Encore)
October is National Domestic Violence Awareness Month, so we are revisiting a show from our archives about criminalized survival, the criminal justice system’s long practice of imprisoning survivors of intimate partner violence when they fight back against their abusers. We'll hear from journalist Natalie Pattillo and filmmaker Daniel A. Nelson, who followed the stories of imprisoned women Kim Dadou Brown, Tanisha Davis and Nikki Addimando for their documentary film And So I Stayed. This show first aired in July 2023. Featuring: Natalie Pattillo, journalist, mother and co-director of the film And So I Stayed Daniel A. Nelson, filmmaker, cinematographer and co-director of the film And So I Stayed Credits: Making Contact Team Episode Host: Amy Gastelum Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Marketing Manager: Lissa Deonarain Music via WFMU free music archive Poddington Bear, Alsace HoliznaCC0, Whatever Learn More: | | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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How the Legacy of Colonialism Keeps Puerto Rico’s Healthcare System in Shambles (Encore)
10/22/2025
How the Legacy of Colonialism Keeps Puerto Rico’s Healthcare System in Shambles (Encore)
Almost half of Puerto Rico’s doctors have fled the island over the past decade, leading to a lack of specialists and treatment and incredibly long wait times. And this isn’t just an inconvenience. People are dying from lack of care. Why is Puerto Rico’s health care system collapsing, and why are doctors fleeing the island? We take a look at its deeply dysfunctional private medical system and why attempts to fix it, and create a universal health care plan on the island, are being hindered by Puerto Rico’s status as a US colony. Its massive unpayable debt, held by investors in the US, means that it cannot make its own economic decisions, even when it affects the livelihood of poor Puerto Ricans living there. But there might be a fix, getting rid of Puerto Rico’s debt and rethinking its colonial relationship to the US. This episode first aired in October 2024. Credits: Making Contact Team Episode Host: Salima Hamirani Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Editor: Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong Engineer: [Jeff Emtman](http://www.jeffemtman.com/) Digital Marketing Manager: Lissa Deonarain Music Credits Daniel Birch – Indigo Strokes Axletree – Goldfinch- Flight to the North Mindseye – Spores Soft and Furious – So What Learn More: | Magazine: Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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The City Displaced
10/15/2025
The City Displaced
We return to Norfolk, Virginia, where flooding and rising sea levels threaten residents, and the climate plan for the city could perpetuate harmful patterns of segregation and environmental racism. With the help of the podcast Wading Between Two Titans, we’ll take a look at how urban redevelopment is pushing out low-income and Black residents and what happens when communities are displaced due to climate gentrification. Featuring: Mr. Vernell, resident Vincent Hodges, social worker and organizer Monét Johnson, lead housing and environmental organizer for New Virginia Majority Paul Riddick, former Norfolk City Council member Credits: Making Contact Team Episode host and producer: Lucy Kang Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music Credit: "A Documentary" by AKTASOK via Pixabay Wading Between Two Titans Team Written, recorded, produced, edited, mixed, mastered and hosted by Show art by Story editing by Kelly Jones Consultation and visioning with the Repair Lab 2022 Practitioner-in-Residence, Music by A project featuring original research by Learn More: | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Port City, from Generation to Generation
10/08/2025
Port City, from Generation to Generation
In this episode, we'll head to Norfolk, Virginia, where flooding and rising sea levels are disproportionately threatening Black residents, while the city is also also weathering a housing crisis. We’ll hear about how sea-level rise, racism and housing are intertwined in this coastal city in a story from episode one of the podcast Wading Between Two Titans, brought to us by the University of Virginia's Repair Lab and producer Adrian Wood. Featuring: Dr. Tommy L. Bogger, professor of history at Norfolk State University | Cassandra Newby-Alexander, endowed professor of Virginia Black History and Culture at Norfolk State University Credits: Making Contact Team Episode host and producer: Lucy Kang Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music Credit: "A Documentary" by AKTASOK via Pixabay Wading Between Two Titans Credits Written, recorded, produced, edited, mixed, mastered and hosted by [Adrian Wood](http://adrianwoodstudio.com/) Show art by [Adrian Wood](http://adrianwoodstudio.com/) Story editing by Kelly Jones Visioned by the Repair Lab 2022 Practitioner-in-Residence, [Kim Sudderth](https://www.kimfor92.com/) Music by [Sugarlift](http://soundcloud.com/sugarlift) A project featuring original research by [the Repair Lab](http://repairlab.virginia.edu/) Learn More: | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Saltwater Soundwalk: Indigenous Audio Tour of Seattle (Encore)
10/01/2025
Saltwater Soundwalk: Indigenous Audio Tour of Seattle (Encore)
Today on Making Contact we present “Saltwater Soundwalk,” an Indigenous audio tour of Seattle featuring a watery audio experience, with streams of stories that ebb and flow that intermixes English and Coast Salish languages. Indigenous Coast Salish peoples continue to steward this land and preserve its language, despite settler colonialism, industrialization and gentrification. Part story, part sound collage, this piece is scored entirely with the sounds of the waters and animals who live in and around the Salish Sea. This episode first aired in April 2023. Saltwater Soundwalk Credits Rachel Lam (Anigiduwagi enrolled Cherokee Nation) and Jenny Asarnow produced this work as part of FLOW: Art Along the Ship Canal, a commission from Seattle Public Utilities in partnership with the Office of Arts & Culture Special Thanks Commissioned with SPU 1% for Art Funds. Administered by the Seattle Office of Arts and Culture. City of Seattle, Bruce Harrell, Mayor. This episode of Making Contact was supported in part by a Moral Courage grant from the Satterberg Foundation. Making Contact Team Episode host: Anita Johnson Segment Editor: Jessica Partnow Staff Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Lucy Kang, Amy Gastelum Executive Director: Jina Chung Audio Engineering: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music Credits Last Kiss – Magnus Moone | Audiobinger – Enchanted Forest Learn More | | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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El béisbol is where we shine
09/24/2025
El béisbol is where we shine
On this week's Making Contact, we talk about baseball with the help of some Venezuelan players living in Peru. In a story brought to us by the podcast In Confianza, with Pulso, we hear about how their hopes and dreams of making it big can fuel community when they’re living far from home. The story featured in this show first aired in July 2024. Featuring: Raian Baute, Venezuelan baseball aficionado | Rodrigo Baute, Los Astros player | Manny Padron, Major League Baseball scout for the Miami Marlins | Franklin Lopez, Los Astros coach | Wilmer Flores, baseball player for the San Francisco Giants Making Contact Team: Episode host: Lucy Kang Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: [Jeff Emtman](http://www.jeffemtman.com/) Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music credit: "Drums" by via Pixabay Guest Episode Credits - In Confianza from Pulso Show hosted by Liz Rebecca Alarcón Story produced and narrated by Anthony Wallace Editing by Mark Pagán and Charlie Garcia Audio engineering and scoring by Anthony Wallace Additional audio engineering and mixing by Charlie Garcia Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Giving Bayard Rustin His Flowers (Encore)
09/17/2025
Giving Bayard Rustin His Flowers (Encore)
Sixty-two years ago, a quarter of a million people gathered for the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom on August 28, 1963. On today's show, we take a look at the life and legacy of a central organizer of the march, Bayard Rustin. Rustin was an openly gay civil rights leader and a trusted advisor to labor leader A. Phillip Randolph and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. This show first aired in June 2021. Featuring: Bayard Rustin, architect of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom Ashon Crawley, University of Virginia Associate Professor of Religious Studies and African-American and African Studies Nancy Kates, filmmaker and producer of _Brother Outsider: The Life of Bayard Rustin_ Bill Sutherland, Fellowship of Reconciliation Reverend A.J. Muste, pacifist and mentor of Rustin George Houser. Fellowship of Reconciliation Louis John, nephew of Bayard Rustin Devi Prasad, pacifist Credits: Making Contact Team Episode host: Anita Johnson Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music Cory Gray – “Medieval Tension” Ketsa – “This Way Joyous” Blue Dot Sessions – “Rally” Blue Dot Sessions – “Rayling” Dee Yan-Key – “Hold On” Dee Yan-Key – “Go Down Moses” Blue Dot Sessions – “3rd Chair” Andy G. Cohen – “Our Young Guts” Learn More: , by John D’Emilio | | , by Jacqueline Houtman, Michael G. Long, Walter Naegle | I by Bayard Rustin, edited by Michael G. Long | | | n | | | | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Miami's Battle Over Bilingual
09/10/2025
Miami's Battle Over Bilingual
This week, we're sharing a guest episode from our friends at Project Pulso: Miami's Battle Over Bilingualism. The path for Miami to get as bilingual as it is today has been hard. Deep discrimination and mass resistance were what it took to get here. Today’s episode is about a decades-long power struggle between those who embraced diversity and those who fought to repress it. Produced in July 2024. Featuring: Dr. Paul George, Eduardo Padron, Gregory Samms Making Contact Team - Episode Host: Jessica Partnow - Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang - Executive Director: Jina Chung - Engineer: - Digital Marketing Manager: Lissa Deonarain Pulso/In Confianza Podcast Team - Host: Liz Rebecca Alarcón - Producer, engineering, scoring, mixing: Charlie Garcia - Editor: Mark Pagán Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Black Panthers in Algeria (Encore)
09/03/2025
Black Panthers in Algeria (Encore)
This story is brought to us by the podcast Kerning Cultures. “Black Panthers in Algeria" tells the story of Elaine Mokhtefi as she landed in newly independent Algeria in the early 1960s and found herself at the center of a special period in the country’s history when it was known as the “Mecca of revolution.” Elaine encountered world famous radicals, ragtag political parties, spies and military leaders – and became an unlikely sidekick to one of the most iconic liberation groups of our time. This episode first aired on Making Contact in September 2024 and Kerning Cultures in April 2023. Featuring Elaine Mokhtefi Natalia Bin Khaled Vince Justin Gifford Eldridge Cleaver Making Contact Credits Episode host: Anita Johnson Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: [Jeff Emtman](https://jeffemtman.com/) Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Kerning Cultures Credits Produced by Deena Sabry and Alex Atack Edited by Dana Ballout Fact checking by Eman Alsharif Sound design by Mohamad Khreizat, Paul Alouf and Alex Atack Our team also includes Zeina Dowidar, Nadeen Shaker and Finbar Anderson Learn More | |
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Beyond the Glass Wall
08/27/2025
Beyond the Glass Wall
The Department of Homeland Security, which includes Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), was created in the aftermath of 9/11. To contextualize what's happening with immigration today under Trump 2.0, we bring you one person’s story of being caught in the anti-Muslim fervor post-9/11 and how she became an organizer advocating for the immigrants’ rights. We'll also hear what her story teaches us about avoiding burnout in doing social justice work. This story comes to us by way of Re:Work from the UCLA Labor Center. Featuring: Ainee Athar, immigrant rights and climate justice Making Contact Team Episode host and producer: Lucy Kang Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music: "Documentary Piano Ambient" by via Pixabay Re:Work Episode "Beyond the Glass Wall" Credits: Hosted by Veena Hampapur and George Chacon Produced by Veena Hampapur, George Chacon, and Saba Waheed Sound design and editing by Veena Hampapur Mixing by Aaron Dalton Learn More: | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Culture & Spirituality As Substance Use Treatment in Indigenous Communities (Encore)
08/20/2025
Culture & Spirituality As Substance Use Treatment in Indigenous Communities (Encore)
In the late 1990s, psychologist Dr. Joseph Gone, a professor and member of the Aaniiih Gros Ventre tribe, returned home during his doctoral training to the Fort Belknap Reservation in north central Montana. There, he set aside Eurocentric concepts of psychology he was learning in school and instead asked tribal members how mental illness is addressed using traditional Indigenous practices. What he learned changed the trajectory of his career. Listen to find out how he helped bring precolonial cultural and spiritual practices into substance use disorder treatment in contemporary Indigenous settings. This show first aired in July 2024. Featuring: , psychologist and interdisciplinary social scientist at Harvard University and member of the Aaniiih-Gros Ventre Tribal Nation of Montana Credits: Making Contact Team: Episode Host: Amy Gastelum Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Editor: Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music credits: Songs: The Horses are Coming, The Gift, Song of Honor Album: The Return of the Buffalo Horses Artists: Learn More: **Learn More:** , Detroit, MI Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Crosswinds: Change
08/13/2025
Crosswinds: Change
On this week’s show, we’ll continue with the podcast mini-series Crosswinds from the University of Virginia’s Repair Lab and producer Adrian Wood. The show looks at the impact of coal dust pollution on Black neighborhoods in Virginia through the lens of environmental racism. In this episode, we'll listen to how the looming gentrification of one community might impact the pollution. Featuring: Lathaniel Kirts, practitioner-in-residence at University of Virginia's Repair Lab Mark'eta Kirts, resident Lawrence Turner, resident Donquitta Clements, founder and executive director of Break the Cycle Sheila McAllister, Director of City Planning for the City of Newport News Yugonda Sample-Jones, founder and president of EmPower All Millie Taylor, resident Making Contact Team: Episode host and producer: Lucy Kang Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: [Jeff Emtman](http://www.jeffemtman.com/) Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music Credit: "That Documentaries" by via Crosswinds Episode 2: Change Credits Hosted, written, produced, mixed and mastered by Adrian Wood Editing by Oluwakemi Aladesuyi of Rough Cut Collective Scoring by Torrin Purkett and Adrian Wood Produced through the Repair Lab at the University of Virginia Learn More: | | Listen to the entire _Crosswinds_ series: |
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Crosswinds: Friendship
08/06/2025
Crosswinds: Friendship
We take a deep dive into coal dust air pollution in the Hampton Roads region of Virginia, where trains transporting coal expose residents of predominantly Black communities to harmful dust. We look at this issue of environmental racism with the help of the podcast Crosswinds, featuring producer Adrian Wood. Featuring: Lathaniel Kirts, practitioner-in-residence at University of Virginia's Repair Lab Malcolm Jones, practitioner-in-residence at University of Virginia's Repair Lab Grace Holmes, Virginia Department of Environmental Quality Dr. Kim Fields, environmental policy expert at the University of Virginia and assistant professor in African American Studies Michael Mines, community leader in Newport News with Flow Church and Peninsula Baptist Association Carl Poole, advocate with New Virginia Majority Making Contact Team: Episode host and producer: Lucy Kang Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music Credit: "That Documentaries" by Credits - Crosswinds Ep. 1: Friendship: Hosted, written, produced, mixed and mastered by Adrian Wood Editing by Oluwakemi Aladesuyi of Rough Cut Collective Scoring by Torrin Purkett and Adrian Wood Produced through the Repair Lab at the University of Virginia Learn More: | | Listen to the entire Crosswinds series: |
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Geraldine’s Story: How Public Schools Are Failing Black Students with Dyslexia (Encore)
07/30/2025
Geraldine’s Story: How Public Schools Are Failing Black Students with Dyslexia (Encore)
Black students with dyslexia all too often carry a heavy burden in our public schools. This documentary centers around a grandmother who fought for years to get her grandkids — particularly her grandson — properly assessed for dyslexia. Like too many African American boys, Geraldine Robinson’s grandson had been erroneously labeled with an “intellectual disability” and deprived of proper reading remediation. Monica Lopez hosts this episode, which first aired in 2021. Featuring: Geraldine Robinson, Oakland matriarch raising her grandkids Cheryl Theis, Education Advocate, Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund Megan Potente, Educational Therapist and Co-State Director, Decoding Dyslexia CA Kareem Weaver, Oakland NAACP Education Committee Episode Credits: Reporter/Producer: Lee Romney Editor: Monica Lopez and Lisa Morehouse Engineer: James Rowlands Making Contact Team: Episode Host: Monica Lopez Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonorain Learn More: Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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70 Million: Why Policing Our Schools Backfires (Encore)
07/23/2025
70 Million: Why Policing Our Schools Backfires (Encore)
School resource officers are often called upon in middle and high schools to help with routine discipline. But for many children, especially those with disabilities, a law enforcement response to their behavior can lead to the school-to-prison pipeline. This week on Making Contact, we hear a story from our podcast partner 70 Million about the relationship between students with special needs and school resource officers and the changes some would like to see in an edited version of “Why Policing Our Schools Backfires.” 70 Million Team Episode Reporter: Claire McInerney Editor: Monica Lopez and Juleyka Lantigua Host: Mitzi Miller Sound Designer: Erica Huang Photo Editor: Michelle Baker Staff Writer and Designer: Kori Doran Lead Fact Checker: Kate Gallagher Lead Producer: Pamela Kirkland Episode Photographer: Zerb Mellish & Michael Minasi Creator/Executive Producer: Juleyka Lantigua Making Contact Team: Host: Anita Johnson Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Disability: Our Culture Ourselves (Encore)
07/16/2025
Disability: Our Culture Ourselves (Encore)
In this episode we discuss disability, culture and identity from the perspective of disability communities themselves. Seattle based activist Dorian Taylor talks about the specific challenges disabled people face while accessing public transportation and Professor Sara Acevedo discusses the powerful ways that common language and terminology can shape our perceptions of disability, and why even today we are seeing further exclusion of disabled people. This program originally aired in 2019. Featuring: Dorian Taylor, Sara Acevedo. Episode Credits Special thanks to CIIS, the California Institute of Integral Studies and the CIIS Public Programs Podcast for use of the Sara Acevedo talk. To learn more about the CIIS Public Programs Podcast log onto . The story of Dorian Taylor was produced by Yuko Kodama and Mona Yeh in partnership with KBCS and Finding America, a national initiative produced by AIR, the Association of Independents in Radio Incorporated. Financial support was provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the Wincote Foundation, The John D and Catherine T MacArthur Foundation and the National Endowment for the Arts. Making Contact Team Host: Anita Johnson Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Learn More: | | | | Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Caring Relationships Negotiating Meaning Maintaining Dignity (Encore)
07/09/2025
Caring Relationships Negotiating Meaning Maintaining Dignity (Encore)
The vast majority of care recipients are exclusively receiving unpaid care from a family member, friend, or neighbor. The rest receive a combination of family care and paid assistance, or exclusively paid formal care. Whether you’re a paid home care provider, or rely on personal assistance to meet your daily needs, or a family member caring for a loved one, the nature of the working relationship depends on mutual respect and dignity. In honor of Disability Pride Month, we’ll revisit the dynamic and complex relationship of care receiving and giving. Camille Christian, home care provider and SEIU member Brenda Jackson, home care provider and SEIU member Patty Berne, co-founder and director, Sins Invalid Jessica Lehman, executive director, San Francisco Senior and Disability Action Kenzi Robi, president, San Francisco IHSS (In Home Supportive Services) Public Authority Governing Body Rachel Stewart, queer disabled woman passionate about disability and employment issues Alana Theriault, disability benefits counselor in Berkeley, California Ingrid Tischer, director of development, Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund (DREDF) Alta Mae Stevens, in-home caregiver Episode Credits: Host: Laura Flynn and Anita Johnson Contributing Producers: Alice Wong and Stephanie Guyer-Stevens Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Editor: Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music: Dexter Britain: Gillicuddy: Steve Combs: Jason Shaw: Jared C. Balogh: | Nheap: Cherly KaCherly: Trio Metrik: Kevin MacLeod: Learn More: Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.
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Decoding Algorithmic Racism with Dr. Safiya Umoja Noble (Encore)
07/02/2025
Decoding Algorithmic Racism with Dr. Safiya Umoja Noble (Encore)
On this week’s episode, we dive into the hidden biases of the digital age with Dr. Safiya Umoja Noble, author of the groundbreaking book, Algorithms of Oppression. Dr. Noble unpacks how search engines, often seen as neutral tools, can reinforce harmful stereotypes and limit access to critical knowledge. Join us as we explore the forces shaping our digital experiences and discuss the urgent need for accountability in technology. This show first aired in December 2024. Featuring: Dr. Safiya U. Noble, David O. Sears Presidential Endowed Chair of Social Sciences and professor of gender studies, African American studies and information studies at UCLA Making Contact Team: Episode host: Anita Johnson Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Learn More: | | | |
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What does a Latino version of "The Bear" taste like?
06/25/2025
What does a Latino version of "The Bear" taste like?
On this week's show, we explore Latino food and culture in Chicago’s historic Pilsen neighborhood and hear about how food can bring communities together. We tag along with the podcast In Confianza with Pulso as they try to answer the question: what does a Latino version of the tv show "The Bear" taste like? We'll head to two restaurants, Cafe Jumping Bean and Pochos, to find out. Featuring: Eleazar Delgado, owner of Cafe Jumping Bean | Miguel Hernandez and Irene Acosta, owners of Pochos Making Contact Credits Episode host and producer: Lucy Kang Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music credit: "Drums" by via Pixabay In Confianza with Pulso: "What does a Latino version of "The Bear" Taste Like?" Credits Hosted by Liz Rebecca Alarcón Produced and edited by Mark Agan Audio engineering scoring and mixing by Charlie Garcia Learn More |
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Mothers, Markets, and Migration (Encore)
06/18/2025
Mothers, Markets, and Migration (Encore)
In this week’s episode, we take a look at how over six decades after the Korean War, South Korea processed the most international adoptions in history and how the demand for a “domestic supply of (adoptable) infants” may be playing a role in increasing threats to autonomy over pregnancy in the US. This show first aired in November 2024. Featuring Alex Lewis, independent producer and founder of | Schuyler Swenson, producer | , registered midwife Making Contact Team Episode Host: Amy Gastelum Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Editor: Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Guest Producers Producer/Reporter: Anne Noyes Saini Producer: Schuyler Swenson Music Credits Andy G. Cohen, “Bumbler” Zé Trigueiros, “Big Road of Burravoe”, “Ponto” Hogan Grip, “Stance Gives You Balance” Music was changed only in length and volume levels and can be found here: http://www.freemusicarchive.org/
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A Making Contact Pride Show!
06/11/2025
A Making Contact Pride Show!
To celebrate Pride Month, we have a special show featuring stories from the Making Contact archives. We'll revisit the Stonewall Uprising with the 1989 audio documentary Remembering Stonewall, and then head to the gay rodeo with producer Vanessa Rancaño in a story from 2014. Making Contact Credits Episode host and producer: Lucy Kang Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Engineer: Digital Media Marketing: Lissa Deonarain Music "Minimal Documentary" by via Pixabay Bleep sound effect by from Remembering Stonewall: The birth of a movement (1989) Narrated by Michael Schirker Produced by David Isay Distributed by Pacifica Radio Archives All Around Cowboy: Inside the world of queer rodeo" (2014) Story producer and host: Vanessa Rancaño This show was part of a partnership with the [UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism](http://journalism.berkeley.edu/) Special thanks to [Claire Schoen](http://claireschoenmedia.com/) Learn More: | | Making Contact episode ""
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