So What Now? with Carla and Dex
So What Now? with Carla and Dex is the podcast that meets women exactly where they are—in transition, in hustle, in healing, in joy. From motherhood and womanhood to news, culture, and personal reinvention, Carla and Dex bring humor, candor, and lived experience to the mic. Each episode is a mix of perspective, real talk, and connection that leaves you with something to think about long after the laughs fade.
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EP 56: Fall Feelings, Family Nonsense & Friendsgiving Joy
11/17/2025
EP 56: Fall Feelings, Family Nonsense & Friendsgiving Joy
On this week’s episode of So What Now?, Dex and I got honest about how the fall season can sneak up on your emotions and shift your whole vibe. I shared how getting outside, staying active, and even slipping in a little travel keeps the fall blues from knocking me off my game. We encouraged everyone to pick one short-term goal to finish by December and actually write the plan—because listen, accountability is peak grown-woman energy. And yes, I had to remind y’all that talking to a counselor or therapist is not a weakness; sometimes you need a professional to help you sort through the heavy stuff. Then we moved into the deeper conversation: requiring respect from your parents as an adult. With the holidays coming up, some of us are about to be around family members we’ve been dodging all year—and suddenly the group chat ain’t enough, you actually have to see them. Dex and I unpacked how to separate your parents’ disapproval from your identity because their expectations do not define your worth. At the end of the day, you can’t force anyone—parent or not—to change, but you absolutely can choose how you show up and respond. Since Thanksgiving is around the corner, we wrapped the episode by talking about our upcoming Friendsgiving and how grateful we are for the community that loves us loud and loves us well. Tune is this week for a discussion on celebrating friendship, growth, and the beauty of chosen family. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US: Rate, Review & Follow UsIf you laughed, felt seen, or screamed "same," take 30 seconds to rate and review the show. ⭐ Scroll to the bottom of our Apple Podcasts page ⭐ Tap to rate 5 stars ⭐ Hit “Write a Review” and tell us what you loved most Your support keeps this going—and we read every word. Our Sponsors This episode is powered by our partners at . Looking to level up your podcast or bring your show to life? These are the teams making it happen. Ready to Start Your Podcast? Let Carla help you launch your podcast in just 30 days. → → and get personal strategy support Need Advice? Want to Sound Off? Send your questions, hot takes, or real-life mess to: 📧 We might read your letter on the next episode—anonymously, of course.
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EP 55: One Year Later: So What Now?
11/12/2025
EP 55: One Year Later: So What Now?
It’s officially So What Now? one-year podcast anniversary! In this week’s episode, we’re taking a moment to reflect on the past year, the lessons we’ve learned, the challenges we’ve overcome, and the growth that’s come along the way. Most importantly, we’re saying a huge thank you to all of our listeners for being part of this journey with us. To celebrate, we answered a series of deep (and sometimes funny) questions to help you get to know us a little better. From exploring the “color” of our lives right now to sharing what we’ve learned about friendship, mistakes, and self-discovery. This episode is all about honesty, reflection, and connection. Grab your favorite drink, tune in, and celebrate with us as we look back on an incredible first year and dream about what’s to come. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US: Rate, Review & Follow UsIf you laughed, felt seen, or screamed "same," take 30 seconds to rate and review the show. ⭐ Scroll to the bottom of our Apple Podcasts page ⭐ Tap to rate 5 stars ⭐ Hit “Write a Review” and tell us what you loved most Your support keeps this going—and we read every word. Our Sponsors This episode is powered by our partners at . Looking to level up your podcast or bring your show to life? These are the teams making it happen. Ready to Start Your Podcast? Let Carla help you launch your podcast in just 30 days. → → and get personal strategy support Need Advice? Want to Sound Off? Send your questions, hot takes, or real-life mess to: 📧 We might read your letter on the next episode—anonymously, of course.
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Facing Death Without Fear: The Heart Behind Dead Honest
11/11/2025
Facing Death Without Fear: The Heart Behind Dead Honest
This week, I’m introducing you to a brand-new show that I had the honor of helping bring to life — Dead Honest, hosted by Ashley, a certified death doula. At the crossroads of belief and doubt, life and death, Dead Honest invites us to face the one thing we all share—our mortality—with courage, curiosity, and joy. This isn’t a doomsday podcast—it’s a raw and beautiful exploration of grief, faith, legacy, and what it truly means to live without fear. If you’ve ever struggled with loss, questioned your faith, or wondered how to live more intentionally, these conversations are needed — and they’ll move you. ✨ Listen and subscribe to Dead Honest wherever you get your podcasts: 💛 After you listen, leave a rating and review to help more people discover this powerful new show. 🎙️ Produced and edited by — empowering voices and crafting stories that inspire.
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EP 54: Robots Are Coming! Automation, Innovation, and a Little Confrontation
11/05/2025
EP 54: Robots Are Coming! Automation, Innovation, and a Little Confrontation
This week on So What Now?, your favorite duo dive headfirst into the tech takeover… and wrap things up with a dose of relationship drama you won’t see coming. We kick things off with the viral story of two Harvard students who built a braiding robot designed to save time and reduce hand strain. But the big question remains: Is technology helping our culture or hijacking it? The ladies unpack what innovation means when tradition is on the line. Then, things heat up when Amazon’s plan to replace 500,000+ warehouse jobs with robots comes up. Carla’s all in on progress (“Let’s move forward already!”), while Dex worries about what automation means for working-class communities. Naturally, it turns into one of their classic So What Now? showdowns — equal parts smart debate and sisterly shade. Next, would you let a human-like robot move in? For just a $200 deposit, Neo the home robot could be your new roomie. Carla’s ready to swipe her card and put Neo on babysitting duty, while Dex is already plotting her escape route. The back-and-forth is pure comedy gold. The episode closes with a gut-punch of a listener letter from a woman struggling with her partner. The advice was unanimous and unfiltered: “Girl, break up with him!” Hit play for laughs, debates, and maybe a few side-eyes at the robots trying to take over our lives — only on So What Now? CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US: Rate, Review & Follow UsIf you laughed, felt seen, or screamed "same," take 30 seconds to rate and review the show. ⭐ Scroll to the bottom of our Apple Podcasts page ⭐ Tap to rate 5 stars ⭐ Hit “Write a Review” and tell us what you loved most Your support keeps this going—and we read every word. Our Sponsors This episode is powered by our partners at . Looking to level up your podcast or bring your show to life? These are the teams making it happen. Ready to Start Your Podcast? Let Carla help you launch your podcast in just 30 days. → → and get personal strategy support Need Advice? Want to Sound Off? Send your questions, hot takes, or real-life mess to: 📧 We might read your letter on the next episode—anonymously, of course.
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EP 53: Let’s Get Spooky! From Face Creams to Fatal Attractions
10/27/2025
EP 53: Let’s Get Spooky! From Face Creams to Fatal Attractions
This week, Dex spills all the details of her anti-aging skincare routine — and let’s just say, it’s not for anyone on a budget. If you thought that was crazy, wait till you hear her skincare goals inspired by Paris Hilton. From luxury serums to three-hour facials, Dex already has her regimen mapped out for when she hits that “Kim K money” era. Carla can’t stop laughing (or calculating the price tag). Then, in the spirit of Halloween, we get into some real-life scary stories. We unpack the shocking case of Sakiyna Thompson, recently convicted of murdering her romantic rival, Kayla Hodgson, in a cross-state crime of passion. Carla, who shares her own cringe-worthy tales of confronting “the other woman” back in the day — and let’s just say, it didn’t go as planned. Finally, things take a futuristic (and spicy) turn as we react to OpenAI’s bombshell announcement: starting December 2025, ChatGPT will allow erotic content for verified adult users. Sam Altman says it’s all about user autonomy and responsible AI — but we aren’t so sure. Will this new feature empower women or open a whole new can of digital drama? Tune in for the laughs, the side-eye, and our thoughts on bots gone wild. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US: Rate, Review & Follow UsIf you laughed, felt seen, or screamed "same," take 30 seconds to rate and review the show. ⭐ Scroll to the bottom of our Apple Podcasts page ⭐ Tap to rate 5 stars ⭐ Hit “Write a Review” and tell us what you loved most Your support keeps this going—and we read every word. Our Sponsors This episode is powered by our partners at . Looking to level up your podcast or bring your show to life? These are the teams making it happen. Ready to Start Your Podcast? Let Carla help you launch your podcast in just 30 days. → → and get personal strategy support Need Advice? Want to Sound Off? Send your questions, hot takes, or real-life mess to: 📧 We might read your letter on the next episode—anonymously, of course.
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EP52: Not Sure If This Is an Ebb or a Flow, But We’re Here for It
10/20/2025
EP52: Not Sure If This Is an Ebb or a Flow, But We’re Here for It
In this week’s episode of So What Now?, we dive into parenting highs, lows, and the unexpected in-betweens. Dex kicks things off by sharing her experience at a frat party with Mikaela – the drinks, the vibes, the "what am I doing here?" moments. Meanwhile, Carla continues her fight with the public school system to get the proper support Psalm needs — it’s real, it's frustrating, and she doesn’t hold back. The convo then takes a sharp (and fuzzy?) turn to Kim Kardashian’s latest business move: faux-fur thong panties. Yes, you read that right. They’re sold out, and we’re asking: What is going on out here?! Wild or genius? Maybe both. We also unpack Kim's recent interview on the Call Her Daddy podcast, where she gets vulnerable about co-parenting with Kanye and reflects on choosing a partner who didn’t live up to the legacy her own father left. This hit Carla hard, she opens up about the deep guilt she’s carrying around the choices she made in her own relationships — especially when it comes to her kids’ fathers. It’s raw, real, and a reminder that healing isn’t linear. The episode closes with a reflective but practical list: 13 decisions to make by 45 so you don’t have regrets at 70. From finances to friendships to finally putting yourself first, we break them down and share where we’re at on the list. Tune in, laugh, cry, and say “So what now?” with us. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US: Rate, Review & Follow UsIf you laughed, felt seen, or screamed "same," take 30 seconds to rate and review the show. ⭐ Scroll to the bottom of our Apple Podcasts page ⭐ Tap to rate 5 stars ⭐ Hit “Write a Review” and tell us what you loved most Your support keeps this going—and we read every word. Ready to Start Your Podcast? Let Carla help you launch your podcast in just 30 days. → → and get personal strategy support Need Advice? Want to Sound Off? Send your questions, hot takes, or real-life mess to: 📧 We might read your letter on the next episode—anonymously, of course.
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EP 51: The Math Ain’t Mathin – Life Path Numbers & Listener Letters
10/13/2025
EP 51: The Math Ain’t Mathin – Life Path Numbers & Listener Letters
This week, we dove into the mystical world of life path numbers said to reveal the road you're meant to walk in life. Carla walks us through how to calculate yours (warning: it’s not as easy as it sounds!) and shares her eerily accurate reading as a Life Path 8. Then, things take a turn when we read a heavy listener letter from a woman dealing with the fallout of her husband’s affair—and the unexpected arrival of his baby with the other woman. With no warning and no say, she’s suddenly playing mom to a child she didn’t ask for. We unpack her heartbreak, her anger, and the impossible position she’s been put in. Can love survive this level of betrayal—or is walking away the only way forward? Grab a drink and your calculator and tune in! CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US: Rate, Review & Follow UsIf you laughed, felt seen, or screamed "same," take 30 seconds to rate and review the show. ⭐ Scroll to the bottom of our Apple Podcasts page ⭐ Tap to rate 5 stars ⭐ Hit “Write a Review” and tell us what you loved most Your support keeps this going—and we read every word. Our Sponsors This episode is powered by our partners at Hi Hello Labs and . Looking to level up your podcast or bring your show to life? These are the teams making it happen. Ready to Start Your Podcast? Let Carla help you launch your podcast in just 30 days. → → and get personal strategy support Need Advice? Want to Sound Off? Send your questions, hot takes, or real-life mess to: 📧 We might read your letter on the next episode—anonymously, of course.
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EP 50:Black Cat Energy: Is Dex Pivoting her Opinion on Men?
10/06/2025
EP 50:Black Cat Energy: Is Dex Pivoting her Opinion on Men?
This week on So What Now we are back with all the chaos, wisdom, and side-eyes you’ve come to love. Dex kicks things off with a hilarious (and low-key insightful?) update on dinner with her dad — who came with unexpected dating advice on where to find eligible bachelors. Spoiler: Dex is not taking him up on this advice. Then, Carla introduces the viral “golden retriever vs. black cat” dating theory — and it’s clear Dex is a full black cat. We break down what your relationship energy says about you and how it shapes your dating patterns. The convo takes a turn as we unpack Young Thug’s controversial appearance on The Pivot Podcast. His comments about therapy, masculinity, and feeling judged hit a nerve — but what really stood out was how the Pivot hosts held space for him while still challenging him to grow. Could the Pivot host be enough to make Dex rethink her hard stance on men? 👀 In listener letters: A romantic soul wonders if her jaded friend is dragging her out of her soft girl era. Is it time to protect her peace and walk away from the group chat? And… a messy mystery unfolds when a listener suspects her brother is having an affair with their pastor’s wife. Carla and Dex both said: unless you’ve got proof, mind your business. As always, we want to hear from you — especially about that last letter. Would you get involved? CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US: Rate, Review & Follow UsIf you laughed, felt seen, or screamed "same," take 30 seconds to rate and review the show. ⭐ Scroll to the bottom of our Apple Podcasts page ⭐ Tap to rate 5 stars ⭐ Hit “Write a Review” and tell us what you loved most Your support keeps this going—and we read every word. Our Sponsors This episode is powered by . Looking to level up your podcast or bring your show to life? These are the teams making it happen. Ready to Start Your Podcast? Let Carla help you launch your podcast in just 30 days. → → and get personal strategy support Need Advice? Want to Sound Off? Send your questions, hot takes, or real-life mess to: 📧 We might read your letter on the next episode—anonymously, of course.
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EP 49: Did The Rapture Happen? + Cardi’s Baby Daddy Drama & Platonic Marriage Proposals
09/29/2025
EP 49: Did The Rapture Happen? + Cardi’s Baby Daddy Drama & Platonic Marriage Proposals
Welcome back to So What Now, where the convos are chaotic and the wine is always flowing 🍷 In this episode, we’re diving deep (and maybe too far 😭) into everything from Rapture Talk 2025 to Cardi B’s new album, revenge baby, and messy baby daddy drama. We’re asking the real questions like: – Did the Rapture already happen and we got left behind? 👀 – Can you repent on your way out and still make it to heaven? – Are all sins really the same, or are some just low-heat sins? 🔥 – And what’s the meal prep plan before… b*** stuff? (Asking for a friend 💀) Plus, we break down: ✨ Why we might just marry each other for free health insurance (no co-pay, no problem) ✨ Parenting moments that humbled us — like when your kid tells a stranger they’re fat 🫠 ✨ Cardi B’s “Am I The Drama?” era and whether revenge pregnancies count as healing It’s faith, foolishness, and friendship all in one episode — and yes, it’s unfiltered. 💅 🎧 Tune in for laughs, lessons, and a little repentance — because life’s wild, and we’re just trying to figure out… So What Now? CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US: Rate, Review & Follow UsIf you laughed, felt seen, or screamed "same," take 30 seconds to rate and review the show. ⭐ Scroll to the bottom of our Apple Podcasts page ⭐ Tap to rate 5 stars ⭐ Hit “Write a Review” and tell us what you loved most Your support keeps this going—and we read every word. Our Sponsors This episode is powered by our partners at . Looking to level up your podcast or bring your show to life? These are the teams making it happen. Ready to Start Your Podcast? Let Carla help you launch your podcast in just 30 days. → → and get personal strategy support Need Advice? Want to Sound Off? Send your questions, hot takes, or real-life mess to: 📧 We might read your letter on the next episode—anonymously, of course.
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EP 48: Pop Culture, Probable Cause & Pretty Girl Preferences
09/22/2025
EP 48: Pop Culture, Probable Cause & Pretty Girl Preferences
It’s football season, y’all! And guess what? Carla and I are finally ready to dive in. We’re trying to understand the hype, the rules, and maybe even pick a team (no promises though). From touchdowns to tight ends, we’re figuring it out one game at a time. Then we pivot to pop culture, because of course we do and whew, let’s talk about Dame Dash on The Breakfast Club. When are folks gonna stop trying to match energy with Charlamagne? That man lives for chaos! Carla and I revisit our favorite moments. Now buckle up, because the vibes shift fast. I’m officially obsessed with the latest legal circus: the Michaela case an OnlyFans model and a 55-year-old man who paid her $11K to perform extreme kink acts, including gluing his eyes shut and walking on him with boots. It was all supposedly consensual, and filmed, but things went sideways. Carla and I were wondering how she still ended up facing serious charges… ChatGPT actually broke it down for us. The legal tea is wild. We also get into Cardi B’s pregnancy announcement, congrats to her! Even though Alexa lied to us about how many kids her new man has (we’ll forgive her… maybe). We talk about how women, especially in the spotlight, are expected to do it all. Carla drops some real talk on what it takes to not fall into the superwoman trap. And finally, let’s talk about Ray Daniels hot take- Why do so many women — even ones from seemingly stable backgrounds like Mariah the Scientist — end up in relationships with men who come with a rap sheet? Carla and I get honest about the psychology, the patterns, and yes, the red flags we’ve all ignored at some point. It’s a mix of chaos, culture, and curiosity this week. Tune in, because you already know we’re asking the real questions. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 47: Security Guards, Spoilers & Side-Eyes
09/15/2025
EP 47: Security Guards, Spoilers & Side-Eyes
We kick off this weeks episode with a motherhood update. Carla opens up about new and uncharted challenges of motherhood this week. Her little one just started Pre-K. It's been a rough ride, and Carla’s not sugarcoating it. The struggle bus is real, and Carla’s driving it with no GPS. Then things take a sharp (and hilarious) left turn into pop culture: we dive into the Cardi B trial — yes, the $24 million lawsuit from a security guard that somehow made it to court. The drama! The absurdity! The joy! Carla turned to her bestie ChatGPT for a breakdown of how this could even happen. While we’re talking Cardi, we go full conspiracy mode trying to guess who her new baby daddy is — and why she’s being so secretive about the pregnancy. We have thoughts. Carla’s also still deep in her docuseries era, and this week she’s all about Beytral: The Podcast (Session Three) on Hulu. She gives a full (spoilery) breakdown of the chaos, the drama, and the absolute insanity of it all. We close out the show with Southwest Airlines’ new controversial policy: plus-size passengers now required to purchase two seats. Dex isn’t convinced it’ll be enforceable, and we break down what this means for travel, equity, and common sense. Tune in for laughs, hot takes, and a lot of “what is even happening right now?” CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 46: AI Dating Concierges, $1K Pre-Date Deposits & Free UK Childcare?!
09/09/2025
EP 46: AI Dating Concierges, $1K Pre-Date Deposits & Free UK Childcare?!
This week, we’re diving deep into the future of dating — and it's getting a high-tech upgrade. Bumble founder Whitney Wolfe Herd says AI could soon help you navigate dating anxiety, improve your communication, and even “date” other AIs to find your perfect match. Helpful or horrifying? We weigh in. Then, tennis pro Sachia Vickery has gone viral after revealing she requires a $1,000 deposit before any date. Is this setting boundaries or setting a new trend? And what does that conversation actually sound like? Also, are we okay with step-parents adopting kids when the biological parent is still involved? The internet is buzzing with rumors about Russell Wilson and Ciara’s son with rapper Future. We unpack the debate. Over in the UK, families are now eligible for 30 hours of free childcare per week — a major win for working parents. So why is Florida trying to eliminate all vaccine requirements for kids? We discuss the contrast. Tune in for the hot takes, the real talk, and the questions nobody else is asking. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 45: For Men Only: Proposals, Budgets & Back Door Business
09/01/2025
EP 45: For Men Only: Proposals, Budgets & Back Door Business
Hey Friends it's Carla! Welcome back to another episode of So What Now? Let's get right into this week's wild ride! So Bella Thorne hopped on IG sharing that she proposed to her fiancé… after he already did it first. I’m sorry, what?? Nah. Ya’ll know I have thoughts (spoiler: I am not out here getting on one knee, let’s be so serious). And of course, Dex went off on one of her classic rants. This time about how some things are strictly “for men.” Like proposing. Like budgeting. Like… anything that feels like work. According to her, we deserve to live soft, fun, budget-free lives and honestly? She might be onto something. Then we slid into the listener letters, and babyyyy it got spicy. We heard from a teacher who’s also on OF. She’s tryna decide if she should quit her 9-to-5 and go full-time as a spicy girl. You know we had to weigh in. But somehow that convo took a sharp left turn into us telling our embarrassing secrets and yes, both of ours happened on cruise ships. Don’t ask, just press play. Grab your drink, your headphones, and your nosiest friend — this one's a wild ride! CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 44: Brunch Budgets, Water Bill Nightmares & Khloé’s Caretaking
08/25/2025
EP 44: Brunch Budgets, Water Bill Nightmares & Khloé’s Caretaking
In this episode, we kick things off with the hidden cost of friendship — turns out, staying social could be costing you over $250 a month in brunches, happy hours, and birthday dinners. Then we get into dating finances, where new data shows men are spending $15,000 more per year in relationships, largely driven by lingering provider expectations. How much is your man spending on you? Dex brings us a shocking story out of Brooklyn: a man lost his fully paid-off $800K home over a $5K water bill. She also shares a personal horror story about the hidden traps and predatory fines cities can hit you with as a property owner. Carla wraps things up with the story of Khloé Kardashian stepping in as primary caregiver for Tristan Thompson’s younger brother, Amari. While Carla sees it as a generous act of love, Dex questions whether it’s just another chapter in Khloé’s inability to let go of Tristan. Whether you’re here for the facts, the feels, or the side-eye — we’ve got you covered. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 43: Mailbag: Marriage Pressure, Broke Behavior & Too Independent?
08/18/2025
EP 43: Mailbag: Marriage Pressure, Broke Behavior & Too Independent?
This week on So What Now?, I kicked things off with a few thoughts on all the buzz surrounding the Woman Evolve conference and shared a little bit about what the experience was like for me personally. We also wanted to catch up with y’all, so we took some time to dig into a couple of listener letters because let’s be honest, our inbox is overflowing and these topics deserved some attention. One letter came from someone feeling the heat from her mom to get married ASAP, and we talked about how to honor your own timeline without blowing up the family cookout. The other came from a woman who’s thriving solo, but keeps getting told she’s “too independent” to be dateable. We unpacked the difference between being self-sufficient and emotionally unavailable, and how to leave room for love without shrinking yourself. And then we heard from someone whose ex just won’t let go still liking her posts, sending memes, and dropping “I miss us” texts every week. We got into why men do this, how to set real boundaries, and why sometimes, hitting that block button isn’t petty it’s necessary. As always, we kept it real, gave our best advice and honestly, who needs a therapist when you’ve got me and Dex? LOL. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 42: Wife Material & Mom Mode: We Can’t Catch a Break
08/12/2025
EP 42: Wife Material & Mom Mode: We Can’t Catch a Break
This week, Dex came in hot with the age-old(and honestly, exhausting) question: Are you wife material? We broke down a xoNecole article where 10 men shared what makes a woman “wife” vs. “girlfriend” material and whew, some of these takes had me raising eyebrows and clenching my pearls. From emotional maturity to splitting bills to being “referred” like a LinkedIn job post, we had plenty to say. Spoiler alert: Dex absolutely flunked the wifey quiz. 😂 Then we had to pivot to check in with my mommas, because back-to-school season is no joke. We discussed another article that reminded me how vital it is for Black women to prioritize ourselves especially when we’re constantly expected to carry everyone else. Trusting others, knowing your limits, setting boundaries, and redefining self-care as non-negotiable? We’re leaning into all of that. This episode is part therapy, part side-eye, and 100% necessary. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 41: Traci’s Luggage, Kamala’s Future, and Karrueche’s Dating
08/04/2025
EP 41: Traci’s Luggage, Kamala’s Future, and Karrueche’s Dating
This week, me, and Carla are comparing social media timelines and realizing just how differently our algorithms are built. Mine? Full of the usual celeb mess. Carla’s? Somehow led us into a convo about butt sniffers. I’m still recovering. We get into the age-gap dating buzz between Karrueche Tran (37) and Deion Sanders (57)—is there a cutoff age where nobody cares anymore, or are we still side-eyeing big gaps? Then we talk about Kamala Harris—she's not running for California Governor, which has me wondering: is she over America or early 2028 presidential plotting? And per usual Carla and I have a heated disagreement: Traci Ellis Ross said she’s traveling without underwear to save space. What?? Panties take up no room. Carla’s out here defending it, talking about washing them in the sink. I said what I said: the math ain't mathing. Tune in for timeline chaos, political tea, and way too much talk about butts. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 40: Multitasking, Mess, and a Little Mayhem
07/29/2025
EP 40: Multitasking, Mess, and a Little Mayhem
This week on So What Now, we unpack a viral TikTok that challenges the usual checklist for choosing a partner. Sure, faith, finances, and fitness are great—but what about the ability to suffer well? Life will get messy, and having someone who doesn’t fall apart in the chaos might just be the most underrated trait of all. Dex keeps it real and admits she’s not built for bedside caregiving—she’ll cut the check, but don’t look for soup and soft words. And if she ever becomes the one in need? Her motto is simple: just take her out! Things take a turn when we discuss the woman who found out her husband’s ex hacked their home security system and watched over 44,000 minutes of footage. Dex is baffled at how anyone has that kind of time, while Carla confesses she might’ve been one click away from doing the same. We also tap into the rising trend of “poly-working”—people holding down two full-time jobs, often powered by AI. Carla’s here for it (shoutout to her ADHD superpowers), but Dex is barely making it through one job. Speaking of jobs, Carla shares a little about her short-lived corporate career and the moment it ended with a good ol’ fashioned workplace fight. Yes, hands were thrown. You definitely want to hear this one. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 39: Cakes, Confessions, and Coldplay Chaos
07/22/2025
EP 39: Cakes, Confessions, and Coldplay Chaos
Whew—y’all, we’re back! After dodging studio bookings like TSA lines, we finally made it back to High Hello Labs, and babyyy... we’ve got a lot to catch up on. Dex is officially 41 (but giving 25), and Carla shares how TSA Cares and Psalm’s amazing therapy team helped him prep for his big NYC takeover. 💪🏾 We’re talking legacy—but not the money kind—getting older (and finer), and how one Coldplay kiss cam moment exposed way more than expected. 👀 Oh, and yes, we go there: abortion debates, Shannon Sharpe’s hush-hush settlement, and what happens when a CEO gets caught up on camera... with someone who ain’t his wife. Plus, Barack and Michelle tap in with some parenting wisdom (we know they be listening 👋🏾). In This Episode: Dexty’s birthday, surprise cake, and getting emotionally wrecked in the Delta lounge 🍰 Psalm’s flying glow-up and why TSA Cares is that girl ✈️ Why posting content could be your ticket to Bali (or at least brunch) The Coldplay concert scandal that cost a CEO his job 👔 Carla vs. the Internet: abortion takes, Twitter fingers, and curly-haired chaos 🥴 Shannon Sharpe’s “retirement plan” for his OnlyFans accuser 💰 Barack + Michelle’s parenting gems and why boys need more than one male role model Keep Up With Us: 🗣️ Join the convo @sowhatnowpod 🎥 Watch the full episode on YouTube 🎧 Subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite podcast app 📩 Got a messy work story or a petty win? Slide in our DMs or email us!
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EP 38: Hot Takes, Bali Dreams, and Petty Truths
07/15/2025
EP 38: Hot Takes, Bali Dreams, and Petty Truths
Hey Besties We’re back! and it’s giving unfiltered chaos (per usual). 😅 This week’s episode is straight from the living room while Carla gets her hair done and Dex debates washing hers (it’s been 16 days, send help). The kids are in the background, the vibes are real, and the convos? Whew. We’re talking: The Bali Challenge: Carla told Dex if she posts 31 Reels in August, she’s going to Bali for free. Now she’s on the gram like her life depends on it. Plastic surgery for men?! Abs, arms, hairlines, do what you want… just don’t tell us about it. Do you really tell your friends when their weight is getting outta hand? Or mind your business? Ashanti and Nelly’s show has us stressed. Is she a married single mom now?! Listener Letter: She’s married with a “good man”… but can’t stop thinking about the one that got away. What should she do? And a DM asking for dating advice after loss—Dex gives the play-by-play on building a roster safely while healing. It’s raw. It’s ridiculous. It’s us. Press play, laugh with us, and maybe send this to a friend who needs to stop replying to “Hey stranger” texts. 😩 xx - Carla CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL: 📱 IG: 📱 TikTok: 🎙 Wanna advertise with us?
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EP 37: Are You Too Comfortable? Here’s What That Could Be Telling You
07/09/2025
EP 37: Are You Too Comfortable? Here’s What That Could Be Telling You
Hey Bestie, We’re back! Listen… jetlag and schedule conflics are real. This week’s episode is a catch-up at the house. I just got back from Bali, had a full-blown spiritual awakening (yes, there were tears in the ocean), and maybe met the love of my life… but he said he’s not coming back to America soooo that’s that. 😅 Dex has been going through it too. When it rains, it pours, okay? She took a little break from social because the doom scroll had her in a chokehold. She opens up about that, plus her quick lil’ Miami trip where she gave out her number… but did anything come of it? 👀 We also read a letter from a listener who feels stuck in a “content” life. Not bad, not great—just… meh. She wants more but feels guilty for wanting it. We unpack that, too. It’s raw, it’s real, it’s us. We missed y’all. Hit play. xx Carla Wilmaris CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US: Rate, Review & Follow UsIf you laughed, felt seen, or screamed "same," take 30 seconds to rate and review the show. ⭐ Scroll to the bottom of our Apple Podcasts page ⭐ Tap to rate 5 stars ⭐ Hit “Write a Review” and tell us what you loved most Your support keeps this going—and we read every word. Our Sponsors This episode is powered by our partners at Hi Hello Labs and . Looking to level up your podcast or bring your show to life? These are the teams making it happen. Ready to Start Your Podcast? Let Carla help you launch your podcast in just 30 days. → → and get personal strategy support Need Advice? Want to Sound Off? Send your questions, hot takes, or real-life mess to: 📧 We might read your letter on the next episode—anonymously, of course.
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EP 36: Fasting, Ghosting & Pardoning – Just Another Week in America
06/30/2025
EP 36: Fasting, Ghosting & Pardoning – Just Another Week in America
On this juicy episode of So What Now, Carla kicks things off by sharing her prep for Bali — a water fast that helped her shed six pounds (and gain three right back 😅). Still, she’s feeling herself and ready for the beach! Meanwhile, Dex crowns the Woman of the Week: a queen who ghosted her man right after he handed her a winning lotto ticket. City girls up by a million 💅🏾💸 Then it’s a hard pivot to politics as we unpack Trump’s headline-grabbing pardons, including Todd & Julie Chrisley (fraud squad!), NBA YoungBoy, Kodak Black, and Lil Wayne. Carla shares what her presidential platform would be — starting with a strict no deadbeat baby daddies policy. We get real with Ileana Gracia, founder of Latinas for Trump, who’s suddenly shocked by Trump’s immigration policies. Carla gives her a reality check she won’t forget. Plus, we offer survival tips for navigating Trump’s presidency (again): Set media boundaries 🧠 Make space for joy 🪩 Rest is resistance 🛌 Finally, we dive into a heartfelt listener letter from an entrepreneur juggling business dreams and bestie FOMO. 💌 You’re not alone, sis. Keep building. The trips (and the tribe that gets it) will come. We wanna see y’all IRL. We’re planning some in-person events, just for the ladies. Click the link and let’s get out of the group chat. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 35: Voicenote Devotionals, Selfie Request and The Last Straw
06/23/2025
EP 35: Voicenote Devotionals, Selfie Request and The Last Straw
Whew! Y’all… I’m out here trying to date and let me just say: it’s terrible. This week I went on two dates — yes, two. One man is ready for a monogamous relationship immediately… and has absolutely no friends (red flag?). The other sends me unsolicited prayer voice notes every single morning and follows up with "send me a pic" all day long. I’m exhausted, and it’s only Monday. 🙃 Meanwhile, Dex is convinced the internet is for girls only — specifically saying men should not be in The Shade Room comments. Honestly? I don’t disagree. Go build a house or something, sir. We also got into the wildest things we’ve done for love. Let’s just say, Dex shared a story that had my jaw on the floor. You ever stay with someone who cheated… and had two kids on you while y’all were still together? She did. And sis really said "crazy for love." Then, we got into a listener letter: “Do you have to pick a side when two close friends fall out?” Mmm… we had thoughts. Lots of thoughts. In our motherhood segment, we reviewed that new Tyler Perry movie Straw (spoiler alert if you haven’t watched yet!). Of course, we couldn’t agree on anything. I loved it — it spoke to me on such a deep, spiritual level. Dex? She’s over it. Said it’s just more Black trauma on display. Classic us. So what now? Click play and find out. We wanna see y’all IRL. We’re planning some in-person events, just for the ladies. Click the link and let’s get out the group chat. — Carla 💛 CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 34: Body Language, Dating Games & Big Beautiful Bills
06/16/2025
EP 34: Body Language, Dating Games & Big Beautiful Bills
Alright y’all, in this week’s episode we got real about body language in dating—yes, sis, that closed-off vibe might be why no one’s stepping to you! A new study says most women think we look approachable, but we really out here serving “don’t talk to me” energy. I put some of those body language tips to the test and let’s just say... results were mixed. Meanwhile, Carla is back in these dating streets and using ChatGPT to help cut through all the awkward small talk on Hinge and honestly, it’s working! you’ll have to hear it to believe it. What are ya’ll thoughts on romantic relationships being transactional? Now me? I stand ten toes down in the belief that all relationships are a give-and-take. Know your value, know what you want, and stop wasting time. Carla had a moment too—realizing that what she brings to a relationship is more than money, and honestly, that shift is powerful. But we had to ask—since women are out here buying homes, getting degrees, leveling up in every way—should we lower our standards when it comes to men? Whew, child. We closed it out with a pivot to motherhood and policy—talking about Trump’s “big beautiful bill” and how it’s gonna make SNAP benefits harder to get for single moms. Work requirements, marital status hoops... it’s a lot, and it’s giving struggle for too many women. Tap in, y’all. This one’s layered. We wanna see y’all IRL. We’re planning some in-person events, just for the ladies. Click the link and let’s get out the group chat. — Dex 💛 CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK:
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EP 33: Single Mom to CEO: Jena Mehlberg on Faith and Raising Boys
06/09/2025
EP 33: Single Mom to CEO: Jena Mehlberg on Faith and Raising Boys
Hey friends—Carla here! This week on So What Now?, Dex and I sat down with the fierce and inspiring Jena Mehlberg—entrepreneur, mama, survivor, and all-around powerhouse in the beauty world. Jena took us on a real ride through some of the toughest chapters of her life—becoming a single mom in her teens, losing a parent, navigating an emotionally abusive relationship, and the ups and downs of running her own business. And y’all, the way she speaks about resilience and faith? You feel it in your bones. She talks about the importance of existing outside yourself and not letting isolation pull you under, especially in the hardest seasons. One thing that really stuck with me—Jena opened up about her mom, a woman who moved through the world like rules just didn’t apply to her. That “ask forgiveness later” attitude? It gave Jena permission to live boldly and never wait for someone else to give her the green light. Then we shifted gears and got real about raising boys. As two single moms of sons, Jena and I got into it: How do we raise emotionally healthy men in a world that often doesn’t teach them how to feel? What message are we sending if we keep choosing partners who don’t show up emotionally? Dex jumped in too, and we unpacked the tension between wanting to protect our kids from life’s mistakes… and knowing we can’t. Y’all, if you’ve ever wondered whether you’re doing enough—or how to keep going when life knocks you down—this one’s for you. 💬 Come join the conversation and lets figuring it out together. We wanna see y’all IRL. We’re planning some in-person events, just for the ladies. Click the link and let’s get out the group chat. — Carla 💛 CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US:
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EP 32: Pro-Choice, Pro-Chaos, Probably Problematic
06/02/2025
EP 32: Pro-Choice, Pro-Chaos, Probably Problematic
This week’s episode of So What Now gets into some pretty spicy and controversial territory—so let’s jump right in. We started things off light: I came across a study that says spending money on your best friend can actually boost your mental health. So Carla, just know—I’m always here to support your wellness journey… especially if it includes buying me lunch. #SelfCare 😌 Carla let us know a few of her exes are trying to “spin the block,” and baby, she is not impressed. That got us thinking: would you ever take an ex back? Carla’s a maybe, but for me? All mine are married now, so it’s a strong no. We also asked: when does your history with an ex stop mattering? Like, is there a cut-off date for emotional baggage? Then we dove headfirst into the mess: reproductive rights. We touched on a few current cases, and let’s just say… it got real. Carla swears she’s not conservative, but sis said “broke people shouldn’t have babies”. Meanwhile, I’m over here volunteering to drive a woman to her 10th one. So yeah—maybe we need to unpack some things too. We also talked about the tragic story out of Georgia, where a brain-dead woman is being kept on life support so her baby can survive. Just… heavy. And before we wrapped, we went deep: should people with genetic disorders have children, knowing there’s a chance their kids will inherit those same challenges? No easy answers, but definitely a conversation worth having. So yeah—this episode is full of debates, some side-eyes, and a lot of heart. We wanna see y’all IRL. We’re planning some in-person events, just for the ladies. Click the link and let’s get out the group chat. Love y’all! – Dex 💜 CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US:
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EP 31: What She Wore vs. What He Did: The Real Issue
05/26/2025
EP 31: What She Wore vs. What He Did: The Real Issue
Friend, this week was juicy and necessary. First off, I gave y’all some homework—yes, homework. Go listen to Atomic Habits and please, if you're struggling with your mental health, talk to a therapist. We love healing over here. Dex gave us all the feels with her recap of her Cowboy Carter trip with her daughter—bonding, Beyoncé, boots and Black girl joy. In our Womanhood segment, we had to touch on B. Simone getting dragged again. This time it’s ‘cause she wore coochie cutters in church. The internet lost its mind. But let’s be real—why is she catching heat when she’s bringing people to Christ in her own way? Stop being hypocrites. Then we had to unpack all this DV mess in the news—Diddy, DDG, Tory Lanez... it’s nonstop. The way some men are reacting, like there's a war on them, is wild. There's a real lack of understanding around what abuse even is. Dex and I both asked the real question: why are so many men still blaming women instead of addressing their own violence? In our Motherhood segment, whew chile—Teyana Taylor and Iman Shumpert’s divorce drama got messy. Iman reported her for violating their agreement, and now she might face jail time... even though she let him slide when he did the same thing. Petty much? Oh—and before I forget, we wanna see y’all IRL. We’re planning some in-person events, just for the ladies. Click the link and let’s get out the group chat. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US:
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EP 30: Babies on Board, Husbands at Risk & $5K Ain’t It
05/19/2025
EP 30: Babies on Board, Husbands at Risk & $5K Ain’t It
Friend… this episode was pure chaos—in the best way. We started off with Porsha from Real Housewives of Atlantathreatening to sleep with a castmate’s husband after an argument. Yes, the same Porsha who already married her ex-friend’s man. The audacity is clearly on clearance and she bought the whole rack. Me and Carla had to break that all the way down, because girl… what are you even doing? Then we shifted gears to Amina Butterfly and her daughter straight-up refusing to go to school. No bullying, no issues—just vibes. The internet had opinions: some dragging Amina’s parenting, others offering support. Of course, we had to weigh in. Next up, Trump is out here trying to boost the birth rate with a one-time $5K baby bonus. And baby… $5K?! That’s not even covering formula and wipes. These are crackhead prices. And to wrap it up, B. Simone went online after sitting through a flight next to a tantrum-throwing baby. Carla thinks parents need to keep their kids in check mid-air. I say, give folks grace—babies gon’ baby. It’s a ride from start to finish. Press play and let us know… so what now? CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US:
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EP 29: Serving Hottie Sauce, Auntie Vibes & Labor Glam
05/12/2025
EP 29: Serving Hottie Sauce, Auntie Vibes & Labor Glam
Hey friend, it’s me, Carla! 💋 This week on So What Now, we’re giving flowers (and maybe some biscuits) to our Woman of the Week—Megan Thee Stallion—for opening her own Popeyes franchise and dropping that delicious “Hottie Sauce”! I LIVE for a business-savvy baddie, okay?! 💅🔥 Now, let’s talk “auntie”... because Dex is still not over it. We get into what it really means when people start calling you that—respect, shade, or both? After some laughs (and a little dragging), Dex might be warming up to the title—as long as nobody expects her to be a role model, LOL. We also get real about motherhood. Jazzy’s holding it down solo (yes, I know she’s with Cam—but still, I said what I said 👀). We talk about losing your spark, shifting identity, and how so many mamas are running on empty with no village in sight. And baby, don’t get me started on getting your makeup done for labor! Is it a power move or just for the 'Gram? Either way, do you, boo. We wrap things up with a spicy take on the celeb “C-tuck” trend—because this snapback pressure? It’s not giving realistic. It's a juicy one—funny, honest, and full of those “so what now?” moments. Press play! 🎙️✨ CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US:
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EP 28: Birthday Blues & Ride-or-Die Red Flags
05/05/2025
EP 28: Birthday Blues & Ride-or-Die Red Flags
Hey y’all, it’s Carla! My birthday’s coming up, and let’s just say I’ve been in my feelings. In this episode I shared how I’ve been mourning parts of my younger self and wishing I could go back and change a few things. Dex reminded me that aging isn’t just loss — it’s also growth and new beginnings, and honestly, I needed to hear that. We also unpacked a wild episode of Dear Future Wifey where a pastor’s wife said she used to iron her man’s clothes so he could go see his side chick. Yes, you read that right. She said it was her calling from God to support him — and while I respect her story, I had to come through with scripture because God did not call us to suffer through infidelity or abuse. Dex and I got into how the church sometimes pushes a “ride or die” message for women, and it’s not always holy — sometimes it’s just harmful. Then we talked about the price of love — literally. A woman spent $10K on a dating coach and is now engaged. Dex thinks finding your person is priceless, but what do yall think? We close with a heavy listener letter from someone stuck in a relationship that’s emotionally draining and rooted in fear, not love. The message? Guilt isn't a reason to stay, and sometimes choosing yourself is the most loving thing you can do. Real talk, spiritual checks, and birthday fears — this episode has it all. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: | 📱INSTAGRAM: 📱TIKTOK: 🎙ADVERTISE WITH US:
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