The Green Grind
Real Experience. Real Struggles. Real Business. Green Industry Podcast featuring Industry Experts discussing all aspects of running a better business
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 251
01/13/2026
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 251
In this episode of The Green Grind, LeRoy and Kory dig into the real conversations contractors need to hear—but rarely do. No hype. No shortcuts. Just honest talk about business, pressure, leadership, and the realities of growth in the green industry. The guys break down what happens when hustle alone stops working and why so many contractors stay stuck despite working harder every year. From mindset shifts to real-world decision-making, this episode challenges listeners to stop operating on emotion and start building with intention. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 250
01/06/2026
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 250
In this episode of The Green Grind, LeRoy and Kory sit down with Brian Fullerton, entrepreneur, content creator, and one of the most recognized voices in the green industry, for a real conversation about growth, discipline, and building a business that lasts. Brian shares his journey from grinding in the field to building multiple income streams through service work, education, and content—while staying grounded in the fundamentals that actually make contractors successful. This episode goes beyond social media highlights and digs into the daily habits, mindset shifts, and business decisions that separate short-term wins from long-term sustainability. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 249
12/30/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 249
In this episode of The Green Grind, LeRoy and Kory sit down with Jordan Renner for an honest, boots-on-the-ground conversation about growth, pressure, and what it actually takes to build a solid business in the green industry without losing yourself in the process. Jordan breaks down his journey through the realities of scaling—learning the hard way that more work doesn’t always mean more money, and that discipline, systems, and decision-making matter just as much as hustle. The conversation pulls back the curtain on the mental side of entrepreneurship: stress, responsibility, confidence, and the constant battle between doing the work and leading the business. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 248
12/23/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 248
In this raw and unfiltered episode of The Green Grind, LeRoy and Kory sit down with returning guest Bob Weaver, a small-business owner grinding his way through the hardest stage of growth—scaling from a one-man operation to a half-million-dollar company without losing his sanity, family, or financial footing. Bob opens up about what it really looks like behind the scenes when revenue grows faster than systems. From doubling sales to nearly going broke, long hours, equipment breakdowns, hiring struggles, and the pressure of providing for his family, this conversation pulls zero punches. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 247
12/16/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 247
In this episode of The Green Grind, LeRoy and Kory sit down with industry icon Marty Grunder, CEO of Grunder Landscaping and president of The Grow Group, to tackle one of the biggest challenges in the green industry: why most companies never break past $1–2 million—and what it really takes to scale beyond it. Marty shares decades of hard-earned lessons from building a respected multi-million-dollar company, hitting long plateaus, and ultimately breaking through by getting out of his own way. The conversation dives deep into the uncomfortable truth that owners are often the bottleneck, and growth requires letting go, trusting people, and running toward the “non-sexy” parts of the business.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 246
12/09/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 246
In this powerhouse episode of The Green Grind, Kory and LeRoy sit down with Kevin Scott, founder of Muskoka Landscapers, a premier high-end design/build firm specializing in luxury lakefront projects throughout Canada’s cottage country. Kevin shares the raw truth behind scaling from a one-man operation to a $10M+ landscape company, breaking down the wins, failures, and jagged growth curve that shaped his business. From leaving a secure job with benefits, to landing his first major lakefront projects, to navigating the chaos of million-dollar builds, Kevin gives an unfiltered look into what it really takes to succeed at the top end of the industry. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 245
12/02/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 245
In this episode of The Green Grind, LeRoy and Kory sit down with Shane Cunningham, owner of The Lawn Shark, a full-service lawn care and landscape company based in Westminster, Maryland. Shane brings an unfiltered, brutally honest look into what it takes to survive, rebuild, and scale in the lawn and landscape industry when life hits hard. Shane shares his journey from a troubled youth to building a thriving landscape and lawn-care business, surviving the 2008 housing crash, navigating a divorce, raising his children as a single parent, and rebuilding his company with a completely new level of clarity, discipline, and purpose. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 244
11/25/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 244
In the final installment of the Scaling Smart Series, Kory and LeRoy dive deep into two pillars that determine whether a company grows with intention—or stays stuck: culture and building like a builder instead of hustling. They unpack the realities of culture at every stage of business, reminding listeners that culture isn’t something you create once you have 10–20 employees—it starts with your first hire. From shifting language from “employees” to “team members” to modeling the standards you expect, they break down how small leadership actions (and inactions) ripple across morale, behavior, and performance inside a company. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 243
11/18/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 243
Kory and LeRoy are back with Part Three of the Scaling Smart Series, diving into what it really takes to scale a company with discipline, consistency, and mature leadership. They break down how owners evolve from reacting to everything that goes wrong… to staying calm, solving problems, and leading with intention. This episode covers the routines and habits that create real growth—showing up for your team, running consistent meetings, staying disciplined with cash flow, and sticking to the processes that built your business in the first place. If you’re ready to move from hustling to building and create a business that grows without chaos, this one’s packed with lessons you can put to work immediately. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 242
11/11/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 242
In this episode of The Green Grind, Kory and LeRoy dive into the second part of their Scaling Smart Series, tackling one of the biggest challenges every growing business faces—creating systems that actually work. They break down how chaos kills growth, why great people can’t thrive without structure, and how to systematize everything from your crews’ daily routines to your sales process. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 241
11/04/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 241
Kory and LeRoy kick off the brand-new Scaling Smart Series — a 4-part deep dive into what it really takes to grow and scale a green industry business the right way. In this first episode, they sit down for a no-fluff, straight-talk conversation about building the foundation for sustainable growth. From defining a clear vision to living by your company’s core values, they break down why so many business owners stay stuck at the same size year after year—and what separates those who scale with purpose. The guys share real stories from their own journeys—mistakes, mindset shifts, and tough leadership calls that shaped their success. Whether it’s hiring the right people, enforcing accountability, or letting go of those who can’t grow with you, this episode hits hard on leadership, culture, and vision. This is just the start of the Scaling Smart Series—four powerful episodes designed to help you grow smarter, lead better, and build a business that lasts. 🎧 Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: 🌐 Need a website? Use code “GreenGrind” to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 240
10/28/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 240
This week, LeRoy sit's down with Bryan Clayton, founder of GreenPal, often called the “Uber for lawn care.” Brian’s entrepreneurial story is nothing short of inspiring. He started mowing lawns at 18, grew his landscaping company into a $10M business with over 150 employees, successfully sold it, and then pivoted into tech — building GreenPal, which now connects 300,000+ users with lawn care professionals across the country. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 239
10/21/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 239
This week, Kory and LeRoy sit down with Ted Glaser, owner of Summit Lawns to talk about the highs and lows of building a landscaping business from the ground up. Ted shares how he started small, what motivated him to keep pushing through challenges, and the lessons he’s learned about leadership, hiring, and staying profitable in a competitive industry. From navigating employee turnover to building strong client relationships, Ted opens up about the real struggles business owners face — and how mindset, persistence, and smart decision-making can carry you through. If you’re in the green industry and looking for encouragement, practical advice, and an honest perspective on what it takes to grow a resilient business, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 238
10/14/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 238
In this episode, Kory and LeRoy sit down with Arik Levy, a serial entrepreneur best known for creating Laundry Locker, Luxer One, and now YardPro, an irrigation software and sensor company revolutionizing how homeowners and professionals manage outdoor systems. Arik shares his incredible journey from the early days of the dot-com boom to building multimillion-dollar businesses centered around one simple principle — solving problems. He talks about scaling Luxer One to a $30-million-a-year operation before selling it, what life was like after the exit, and how that led him into the world of irrigation technology with YardPro. The conversation dives into entrepreneurship, recurring revenue models, and how technology like AI and automation are transforming the landscape industry. Whether you’re a tech-minded business owner or a boots-on-the-ground operator, this episode is packed with insights on identifying opportunities, building efficient systems, and thinking beyond “old-school” methods. 🎧 Tune in for a masterclass on innovation, business growth, and how solving real-world problems leads to lasting success. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 237
10/07/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 237
This week on The Green Grind, Kory and LeRoy sit down with Lukas Blumling, owner of Blumling Lawn Care LLC, to share his journey of building a thriving lawn care and landscaping business from the ground up. Lukas talks about what inspired him to take the leap into business ownership, how he’s balancing growth with family life, and the lessons he’s learned along the way. The conversation dives deep into the realities of running a small business — from pricing and profitability to managing crews and knowing when to say no. Whether you’re just starting out or looking to grow smarter, this episode offers honest insight into the discipline, systems, and mindset it takes to scale sustainably while avoiding burnout. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 236
09/30/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 236
At just 21 years old, Landon Holt has built Holt Landscape Group into a multimillion-dollar company with over 40 employees — and he’s just getting started. In this inspiring episode, Kory and LeRoy sit down with Landon to unpack how he scaled so quickly, the importance of discipline and systems, and why faith and humility are central to his leadership style. Landon shares his philosophy on taking calculated risks, building a culture that attracts and retains top talent, and keeping a “student mentality” no matter how big the business grows. Whether you’re just starting your green industry journey or looking to take your business to the next level, this episode is packed with actionable insights on growth, leadership, and long-term vision. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind podcast Episode 235
09/23/2025
The Green Grind podcast Episode 235
This week, Kory and LeRoy sit down with industry veteran Kevin Salters and financial expert Joey Coberly from Lawn Care Launch to tackle the biggest mistakes new lawn care and landscaping business owners make — and how to avoid them. Kevin shares his journey from running a $6M commercial maintenance company to coaching small operators, while Joey brings a financial lens to help owners understand their numbers and build businesses that don’t just generate revenue but actually create profit. Together, they break down common traps like underpricing, overleveraging debt, and failing to track key metrics like gross margin and revenue per man hour. They dive into why culture starts with the owner, why communication with your spouse and team is critical, and how to build systems and SOPs that let you step back and scale. If you’re starting or growing your green industry business, this episode is packed with real-world advice on pricing, financial management, leadership, and building a company that works for you — not the other way around. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 234
09/16/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 234
In this episode of The Green Grind, Kory and LeRoy sit down with Bob Scott, owner of Lowe’s Greenhouse in Bainbridge, Ohio. Bob shares how he and his partner transitioned from running a small landscape design/build company to acquiring a third-generation greenhouse and garden center. The conversation dives deep into the complexities and opportunities of vertical integration in the green industry — from growing and selling plants to running retail, landscaping, floral, and greenhouse operations all under one roof. Bob explains the pros and cons of owning the supply chain, the challenges of managing diverse departments, and the lessons learned from growing the team from 12 to 65 employees. Listeners will also hear about navigating retail trends, balancing overhead with efficiency, and building a resilient business model where multiple departments support one another. Whether you’re running a small landscape crew or leading a multi-division operation, Bob’s insights on leadership, systems, and customer experience will spark ideas for growth. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 233
09/09/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 233
In this episode, Kory and LeRoy welcome Kirstin Mains back to The Green Grind to dive deep into one of the most important topics for any business owner: getting out of your own way. Fresh off their trip to the Landscaper event in Charlotte, the crew unpacks why so many owners become the bottleneck in their business and how to fix it. They discuss building systems that scale, empowering team members to take ownership, and focusing on vision over chaos. You’ll also hear about the new AI tools being developed for the green industry, the importance of setting short- and long-term goals, and how sharing your vision with your team can transform company culture. Whether you’re running a $250k business or a $5M one, this episode is packed with practical advice on breaking free from control-freak tendencies, reducing burnout, and leading your team toward growth. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1. Join 800 landscapers at the LeanScaper Finance Intensive in Dallas, Sept. 15–16, and build a three year plan with AI, robotics, and smart investments to scale profits and increase your company's value.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 232
09/02/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 232
In this episode, Kory and LeRoy sit down with Aaron Suttenfield, founder of A&D Suttenfield Landscaping, to explore the role of faith, family, and values in building a successful business from the ground up. Aaron shares his journey—from mowing grass in high school to leading a full-service landscape company—and how staying true to his principles has shaped every part of his business. With a strong focus on customer service, employee relationships, and doing the right thing (even when it’s hard), Aaron explains how he built a business that reflects more than just financial goals. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1. Join 800 landscapers at the LeanScaper Finance Intensive in Dallas, Sept. 15–16, and build a three year plan with AI, robotics, and smart investments to scale profits and increase your company's value.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 231
08/26/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 231
In this episode, Kory and LeRoy are joined by Adam Fullerton, a marketing strategist and creative agency owner who helps service-based businesses cut through the noise and actually connect with customers. Adam breaks down what most companies get wrong about marketing—and how to fix it. From storytelling and brand consistency to knowing your audience and crafting the right message, Adam offers practical strategies you can apply right now to grow your business the smart way. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1. Join 800 landscapers at the LeanScaper Finance Intensive in Dallas, Sept. 15–16, and build a three year plan with AI, robotics, and smart investments to scale profits and increase your company's value.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 230
08/19/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 230
In this episode, Kory and LeRoy sit down with Eric Hill, a driven entrepreneur who has built his landscaping business through grit, vision, and relentless focus on relationships. Eric shares the real story behind starting small, facing setbacks, and pushing through the challenges of growing a company in a competitive industry. From developing leadership skills to creating a culture that values people, Eric’s journey is packed with lessons on resilience, growth, and staying grounded through it all. He also highlights the importance of surrounding yourself with the right team, adapting to industry changes, and leading with integrity. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 229
08/12/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 229
For his fourth appearance on The Green Grind, Kory and LeRoy welcome back Sam Gembel, co-owner of Atlas Outdoor, to dive into the strategic side of scaling a landscaping business—with purpose. Sam shares how focusing on leadership, culture, and communication has transformed both client experiences and team performance. From hiring with intention to creating clear SOPs (standard operating procedures), he explains how structure, consistency, and accountability have propelled Atlas Outdoor to the next level. If you’re a business owner looking for more than the usual hustle-and-grind narrative, this conversation offers a fresh, sustainable perspective on what real success looks like. Free Trial + 20% Off Jobber for 6 Months: Need a Website? Use code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1:
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 228
08/05/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 228
Kory and Leroy are joined by Derek Lines, CEO of Showtime Homes, to dive into what makes his business—and his leadership—stand out in a crowded market. From pounding nails on a framing crew to creating a culture-driven custom home building company, Derek breaks down the mindset, mistakes, and momentum that fueled his journey. He shares how emotional intelligence, brand energy, and hard conversations are key to building lasting client relationships and an all-in team. This episode is packed with leadership gold: how to develop a standout brand, inspire loyalty in employees, own your mistakes, and still love your business years later. Whether you’re in landscaping, construction, or any service industry, Derek's story will give you a blueprint for doing things different—and better. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 227
07/29/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 227
In this powerful episode, Kory and Leroy welcome back Jonathan Guinipero, owner of Stateline Landscaping in Massachusetts. After appearing on the show in 2022, Jonathan returns with a raw, honest look at how downsizing his business nearly cost him everything—including his marriage and family time. Jonathan shares how he went from feeling "comfortable" with just two employees to realizing he was simply stuck in survival mode. He opens up about the emotional toll, the wake-up call that changed everything, and how hiring a business coach helped him rebuild his company and personal life. This is a must-listen for any entrepreneur questioning their path, searching for clarity, or needing motivation to make real change. If you’re in the trenches, trying to grow a business without losing yourself in the process—this one’s for you. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 226
07/22/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 226
In this unscripted and insightful episode of The Green Grind Podcast, hosts Kory Ballard and LeRoy Mains sit down for a candid conversation about business growth, facility upgrades, leadership standards, and long-term planning. LeRoy shares the story behind Brilliant Borders' new facility—why they built it, the impact on team culture, and the operational challenges that came with expansion. They also dive into the hidden costs of scaling, the power of consistent expectations, and the mindset shifts that help sustain growth. Whether you're in year one or twenty of your business journey, this episode is packed with real talk, lessons learned, and forward-thinking strategies that every green industry entrepreneur can relate to. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 225
07/15/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 225
At just 22, Brenden Beal is building something big with Beals Lawn Services in Columbus, OH. From mowing 80 properties solo to running full-time crews and managing HOAs, Brenden shares the real story behind scaling quickly, learning hard lessons, and course-correcting for long-term success. He talks about pricing mistakes, the challenges of hiring friends, and how discipline, honesty, and leadership have reshaped his business in 2025. Whether you're just getting started or ready to grow, this one's packed with practical insight. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 224
07/08/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 224
In this special episode of The Green Grind, hosts Kory and LeRoy sit down with a very special guest—LeRoy’s wife, Kirstin Mains. Kirstin is more than just a partner at home—she’s the original brains behind Brilliant Borders Landscaping. From a bold decision to buy a weekend curbing business off a neighbor to growing it into a full-scale landscaping operation, Kirstin shares her unique entrepreneurial journey. You’ll hear how she went from hands-on curb installation to managing crews, balancing family life, and stepping in and out of the business as it evolved. Kirstin opens up about working alongside her husband, the power struggles and personal growth that came with it, and how clearly defined roles—and a whole lot of grit—helped the company thrive. This episode offers real insight into running a family business, navigating leadership as a couple, and what it truly takes to build something from the ground up. Whether you're a husband-wife team or just building your dream, this one’s packed with honest lessons and inspiration. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 223
07/01/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 223
In this episode, Kory and LeRoy sit down with Denver, the founder of Legacy Land Pros in Northeast Ohio. Denver’s journey started with a push mower and a dream—and just a few years later, he’s running a thriving landscape and maintenance company with 25+ employees and a plan for regional expansion. He breaks down how he scaled fast, why mentorship changed the game, and what it takes to build a business that creates real careers—not just jobs. You’ll hear about the growing pains, mindset shifts, and operational strategies that took Legacy from weekends and worn-out mowers to a year-round, multi-crew powerhouse. Whether you're cutting your first lawn or managing your first million, this one’s packed with insight, honesty, and hard-earned advice from a guy still in the trenches. Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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The Green Grind Podcast Episode 222
06/24/2025
The Green Grind Podcast Episode 222
In Episode 222 of The Green Grind Podcast, hosts Leroy and Kory sit down with Mike Garcia, owner of Electric Lawn Scapes in Kansas City, Missouri. Mike shares how he went from being an A-player at a traditional landscape company to launching his own innovative, all-electric lawn care business. Tune in to hear about the unique challenges and benefits of going electric, how Mike’s vision is shaping sustainable landscaping, and why staying bored was never an option. This is a must-listen for anyone thinking about leveling up their green game! Powered by Jobber and Protiv! Free Trial and 20% off Jobber for 6 months: Need a website? Use the code GreenGrind to get your first month for $1.
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