The Hats Podcast
The Hats Podcast is for anyone who wears many hats - mom, friend, business owner, athlete, sister, traveler, fashionista, doctor, etc. - and wants tips on how to balance their hats with style and grace! This show offers listeners personal stories from hosts Melissa Dumaz, a licensed marriage and family therapist, and Kerri Harper-Howie, an attorney and business owner, as well as tips for how they balance the many hats they wear. Join Melissa and Kerri for a fun and funny few minutes and learn a little something along the way!
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203: The Boss Moves Hat with Monique Earl
06/17/2026
203: The Boss Moves Hat with Monique Earl
What does it really take to make a boss move? In this episode of The Hats Podcast, Melissa Dumas and Kerri Harper-Howie sit down with powerhouse leader Monique Earl to explore what it means to make bold decisions, lead with confidence, and create impact without losing yourself in the process. With more than two decades of leadership experience across both the public and private sectors, Monique brings a wealth of wisdom on navigating high-level leadership, building meaningful relationships, overcoming fear, and trusting yourself when the next move feels uncertain. Throughout the conversation, Monique shares lessons from her journey through government leadership, consulting, community service, and personal adversity. She opens up about the pivotal career decision that changed the trajectory of her life, the cancer diagnosis that forced her to reevaluate her priorities, and why betting on yourself is often the biggest boss move of all. Melissa, Kerri, and Monique also challenge common ideas about leadership, success, and imposter syndrome. Together, they unpack the importance of authenticity, mentorship, capacity, relationship-building, and learning to trust the process even when the path forward isn't completely clear. Whether you're considering a career change, stepping into a leadership role, navigating a personal transition, or simply wondering what your next move should be, this conversation offers practical wisdom and encouragement to help you move forward with confidence. In This Episode: What "making boss moves" actually means in leadership and life Why taking risks is essential for personal and professional growth The influence Monique's parents had on her leadership philosophy How community impact shapes true leadership Why fear doesn't disappear and how to move forward anyway Navigating rooms where you may be the only woman or person of colour The importance of knowing and owning your superpowers Building relationships outside your comfort zone Why mentorship remains one of the most valuable career tools Understanding the difference between availability and capacity Monique's career-changing decision to leave a role she loved Lessons learned from navigating a cancer diagnosis and recovery Why betting on yourself is one of the biggest boss moves you can make Rethinking imposter syndrome and trusting your abilities How mistakes become some of our greatest teachers Why not every opportunity, promotion, or paycheck is the right one The power of showing up as your authentic self Why making boss moves is more like playing chess than checkers About Monique Earl: Monique is a dynamic leader with over 20 years of experience in both the public and private sectors, specializing in financial management, policy development, and infrastructure innovation. She currently serves as a Senior Manager at Accenture LLP, where she leads transportation and infrastructure initiatives across Southern California, helping public sector clients drive modernization, efficiency, and equity in mobility solutions. Previously, Monique held key leadership roles in the City of Los Angeles, including Deputy Mayor of Budget and Financial Policy, Chief Deputy Controller, and Executive Officer at the Los Angeles Department of Transportation. In these roles, she shaped financial strategy, improved transparency, and advanced transportation planning to better serve Angelenos. At the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, she led Human Resources and spearheaded diversity initiatives in hiring, contracting, and community engagement. Born and raised in Los Angeles, Monique is a proud resident of Leimert Park and remains deeply committed to community engagement. She holds a Master of Public Administration from American University and a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science from California State University, Northridge. Connect with The Hats Podcast Send an email: thehatspodcast@gmail.com Facebook: Instagram: Connect with Kerri Harper-Howie: Instagram: Check out Kerri’s book on Amazon: Connect with Melissa Dumas: Instagram: Website:
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202: The Small Talk Hat
06/10/2026
202: The Small Talk Hat
Small talk. Argh, right?! Most of us do it. Many of us dislike it. Yet somehow, it remains one of the most important social skills we use in our personal and professional lives. Small talk is a bridge that helps people move from strangers to genuine connection. So, let’s talk about small talk: how to make it easier and do it better. Melissa shares why small talk can create anxiety for her as a therapist who spends her days having deep, emotionally meaningful conversations. Kerri reflects on how her career as an attorney has helped her become skilled at asking questions, building rapport, and navigating conversations in virtually any room. Together, they explore the purpose of small talk, why it matters, how it can open the door to deeper relationships, and practical ways to make it feel more authentic and less awkward. Whether you're attending networking events, meeting new people, reconnecting with old friends, or simply trying to feel more confident in social settings, this conversation offers practical insights that can help you approach small talk with greater ease and intention. In This Episode: Why small talk exists and the important role it plays in building connection The difference between small talk and meaningful conversation Melissa's experience with small talk anxiety and why surface-level conversations can feel challenging How Kerri learned to navigate conversations through her work as an attorney The value of finding shared humanity when meeting new people Why silence doesn't always need to be filled Practical strategies for starting conversations in networking and social settings How compliments can become authentic conversation starters The importance of asking questions you are genuinely curious about Why people often enjoy talking about themselves and how to listen well Signature questions that can help create more natural conversations How small talk can lead to deeper relationships, opportunities, and community Connect with The Hats Podcast Send an email: info@thehatspodcast.com Facebook: Instagram: Connect with Kerri Harper-Howie: Instagram: Check out Kerri’s book on Amazon: Connect with Melissa Dumaz: Instagram: Website:
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201: The Lifelong Learner Hat
06/03/2026
201: The Lifelong Learner Hat
In this episode of The Hats Podcast, co-hosts Melissa Dumaz and Kerri Harper-Howie explore the Lifelong Learner Hat and why continuous growth is essential for anyone looking to level up personally and professionally. As part of the Boss Bitch Season, Melissa and Kerri discuss how lifelong learning extends far beyond classrooms, certifications, and formal education. It includes learning through life experiences, relationships, challenges, mistakes, therapy, business ventures, and self-reflection. They share personal stories about the lessons they've learned, the beliefs they've had to unlearn, and how staying curious has helped them evolve into stronger leaders, partners, parents, and professionals. The conversation also dives into the practical realities of making space for growth when life is already busy. From setting boundaries and prioritising learning on your calendar to advocating for professional development and embracing vulnerability, Melissa and Kerri offer actionable insights for anyone who wants to continue growing at any stage of life. Whether you already consider yourself a lifelong learner or you're just beginning your journey of personal and professional development, this episode is a reminder that it's never too late to learn something new or unlearn something that no longer serves you. In This Episode: Why the Lifelong Learner Hat is a key part of the Boss Bitch Season What it truly means to be a lifelong learner The connection between ambition, growth, and continuous learning How Melissa and Kerri intentionally create space for learning Why learning doesn't stop after school or professional certifications The importance of self-awareness and personal development Lessons Melissa learned from building a podcast and growing her therapy practice How Kerri prioritises learning through strategic scheduling and boundaries The difference between learning and unlearning Kerri's powerful realization that love is not transactional Melissa's journey of unlearning over-giving and strengthening boundaries Why communication is essential when growth changes your relationships How to protect your curiosity and commitment to learning Free and accessible ways to continue learning at any stage of life Connect with The Hats Podcast Send an email: info@thehatspodcast.com Facebook: Instagram: Connect with Kerri Harper-Howie: Instagram: Check out Kerri’s book on Amazon: Connect with Melissa Dumaz: Instagram: Website:
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200: Welcome to the Boss Bitch Season
05/27/2026
200: Welcome to the Boss Bitch Season
The Hats Podcast is back for Season 9! We are bigger, bolder, and brighter than ever. In fact, we are coming back in full Boss Bitch mode! In this season opener, hosts Melissa Dumaz and Kerri Harper-Howie officially introduce the “Boss Bitch Season” - a season focused on elevation, expansion, leadership, reinvention, and what it truly means to step into your next level personally and professionally. And, surprise: The Hats Podcast is launching a YouTube video version of its podcast! Yes, episodes will continue to be available via our usual audio channels. In conversation, Melissa and Kerri open up about entering their “second life”, leaving behind what no longer serves them, and stepping fully into the work, opportunities, and impact they feel called toward. They share honest reflections about ambition, imposter syndrome, innovation, professional growth, wellness, branding, entrepreneurship, and learning how to think bigger without losing authenticity along the way. The episode also gives listeners a preview of what’s coming this season. In This Episode: Why Season 9 is called the “Boss Bitch Season” The launch of The Hats Podcast video experience Melissa and Kerri’s current season of personal and professional growth The mindset shift from survival mode to expansion Why branding matters more than ever The importance of failing fast in business How AI is changing the future of entrepreneurship Melissa’s vision for expanding wellness beyond the therapy office Kerri’s public speaking goals and journey toward self-innovation Why visibility, impact, and community matter in this next chapter Connect with The Hats Podcast Send an email: Facebook: Instagram: Connect with Kerri Harper-Howie: Instagram: Check out Kerri’s book on Amazon: Connect with Melissa Dumaz: Instagram: Website:
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199. What the Guys Said About Season 8
01/22/2025
199. What the Guys Said About Season 8
Season 8 was different than all the others. So, we had to mix things up for our closing episodes as well. Episode 198 was all about the highs and lows of Season 8 from co-host Melissa and Kerri's perspectives. This final episode of Season 8 is how their husbands, Khalel and Sanford, felt being on the hot seat all season long. Listen in to see how it went for them. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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198. She Said, He Said, We Said IT ALL ...
01/15/2025
198. She Said, He Said, We Said IT ALL ...
Well, maybe we didn't say everything - impossible, right? But, we talked about fatherhood, sex, layoffs, dates, being black men and so many other things. Listen to co-hosts Kerri and Melissa wrap up season 8 and our favorite moments from this unique season with our husbands as our only guests. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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197. The Work/Life Balance Hat - He Said
01/08/2025
197. The Work/Life Balance Hat - He Said
Men balance life differently than women ... at least our husbands, Khalel and Sanford, do. They even see the need to balance through a different lense. So, co-hosts Kerri & Melissa thought the Hatters could benefit from hearing how they balance their busy lives and careers with our busy lives and careers. They shared some insights even we had not thought of. Listen in so you can get them too! Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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196. The Good Gift Giving Hat
12/04/2024
196. The Good Gift Giving Hat
You've made it through Black Friday (which is not a full week!) and Cyber Monday. So, you may already have gotten all the gifts you will purchase this holiday season. But, if you are still trying to figure out the perfect gift for that last person on your list, this is the episode for you. Co-hosts Melissa and Kerri share some best bets on how to be a thoughtful gift giver, and how to gingerly receive gifts that may not suit your tastes! Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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195. The Romance Hat
11/20/2024
195. The Romance Hat
"Turn off the lights! And, come closer." Yes! Barry White invokes the romance in all of us. Listen in to this episode where Kerri and Melissa welcome their husbands Sanford and Khalel to talk about how to keep the romance alive in relationships ... even when it seems impossible! Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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194. The Black Man Hat
11/13/2024
194. The Black Man Hat
After George Floyd died, co-hosts Kerri and Melissa felt compelled to record The Black Woman Hat. It is one of the shows most listened-to episodes of all time, and for sure one of the most emotionally raw. On this episode, the co-hosts welcome their husbands to share about being Black men in America - the ups, downs, stereotypes and everything in between. If you've ever wanted real and authentic insight on what it's like to be a Black man in America, this is a must-listen-to episode! Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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193. The Hobby Hat
10/30/2024
193. The Hobby Hat
In our busy lives, having a hobby becomes vital. Hobbies decrease stress, increse confidence and can expand your horizons. Explore this topic with co-hosts Melissa and Kerri who talk about their hobbies and give you tools and tips that will allow you to incorporate satisfying and fulfilling hobbies into your already hectic lives. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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192. The Date Night Hat
10/16/2024
192. The Date Night Hat
Everybody loves a good date night. And YET! Everybody struggles at times to consistently plan and execute them. Whether you have kids, animals, parents or intense careers (or all four of the above!), making sure you and your boo take time to nurture your relationship one-on-one is vitally important to keeping things fresh, connected and intimate. Listen to co-hosts Kerri and Melissa dish about date nights with their husbands, Sanford and Khalel. And, learn how you can make dates nights a more regular affair. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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191. The Relationship Evolution Hat
10/09/2024
191. The Relationship Evolution Hat
Change is inevitable. For better or worse, change also impacts relationships. Individual interests and ideals change, finances change, family structure changes, and the list goes on. The Relationship Evolution Hat explores what happens to relationships over time and how they can evolve. Listen in as co-hosts Kerri and Melissa welcome their husbands for another episode to talk shop. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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190. The Role Model Hat
10/02/2024
190. The Role Model Hat
Last week we talked fatherhood, and sometimes fathers are important role models in our lives. But, a role model can come in many shapes and sizes. In this episode, co-hosts Kerri and Melissa explore what it means to serve as a role model (whether you choose to be or not), and how to find one when you need one. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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189. The Fatherhood Hat
09/25/2024
189. The Fatherhood Hat
Melissa and Kerri both had fathers that were absent for much of their childhood and all of their adulthood. To have active and wonderful fathers in their own households has been a beautifil experience. Listen to their husbands, Khalel and Sanford, talk about their experiences as sons of actively involved fathers and fathers to multiple children. This is a fun and enlightening episode for anyone who knows and loves a father. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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188. The Reconciliation Hat
09/18/2024
188. The Reconciliation Hat
Are forgiveness and reconcilitation the same thing? Not quite. While both are extremely important to healthy relationships - which inevitably experience hurt and rifts - they can be quite distinct processes with very different outcomes. If you've struggled with moving past pain in a relationship, go back and listen to episode 24 The Forgiveness Hat, and then fast forward and list to this episode. You will then understand the clear differences between forgiveness and reconciliation, and be able to assess whether your current situation requires one or both. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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187. The No Agenda Hat - VP Kamala Harris
09/05/2024
187. The No Agenda Hat - VP Kamala Harris
Black women are having a moment. Asian women are having a moment. Women are having a moment. The United States is having a moment! Vice President Kamala Harris earned the nomination of the Democratic party and is now running for POTUS! This is a MOMENT!! We are excited to introduce The No Agenda Hat series. In each of these episodes, co-hosts Kerri and Melissa will take a beat to talk and record without an agenda. It may be about a historic event happening, a significant time in our lives, or simply a subject that was not on our list, that defies topic questions and warrants a deviation from our regular programming. So, indulge us as we share without an agenda because we MUST talk about this MOMENT! Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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186. The Things We Need to Say Hat
08/28/2024
186. The Things We Need to Say Hat
We shared recently about the devastating loss of dear friend of The Hats Podcast, Waraire Boswell. His passing reminded us that life is short and we have limited opportunities to say all the things we need to say. So, we tried in this episode to capture some of the messages we want to convey to some of the most important people in our lives. We get raw and vulnerable in this episode. We hope to inspire others to do the same. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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185. The Peer Pressure Hat
08/21/2024
185. The Peer Pressure Hat
At your first high school party, someone passed around red cups holding "punch". When you put the cup handed to you up to your mouth, your nose tells you that this is no ordinary punch! What do you do? What about when the joint is passed around outside the office party? Or, when you go shopping with girlfriends and everybody else is spending amounts of money you know you don't have? Peer pressure comes at many ages and most environments. Listen to this episde of The Hats Podcast to get insights on how you can resist peer pressure, and how you can teach your kids to do the same. Also learn when you should give in to positive peer pressure! Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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184. The Layoff Hat - The Laid Off Said
08/14/2024
184. The Layoff Hat - The Laid Off Said
"Honey, I got laid off." The words are said. What happens next? Co-hosts Kerri and Melissa's husbands share what happened to them after they had to utter these words ... more than once. Listen in to find out what Kerri and Melissa did right and wrong when they found out their husbands had been laid off, and how both households managed to get to the other side of layoffs that impacted their lives. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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183. The Lay Off Hat - The Partner Said
08/07/2024
183. The Lay Off Hat - The Partner Said
It's a moment so many adults dred - you have to walk into your home or get on the phone and inform your partner or loved one that you have been laid off. What happens in that moment can be groundshifting for any relationship. Will an earthquakegive create a divide in the relationship and household that cannot be bridged? Or will the earth squeeze together creating a mountain you agree to climb together. Listen in to hear how Kerri and Melissa handled the MULTIPLE times each of their husbands got laid off. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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182. The Chief Household Officer Hat
08/02/2024
182. The Chief Household Officer Hat
CEO. CFO. CMO. CHO? What is a Chief Household Officer? Co-hosts Melissa and Kerri explore this concept in this episode. Households do not run on their own. Somebody has to drive the ship. Sometimes it's one person, in other households there are co-CHOs. Listen in to find out how things flow in Melissa and Kerri's homes, assess how your your household functions, and decide if you want to keep things the same or do a few things differently. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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181. The Honeymoon Hat
07/26/2024
181. The Honeymoon Hat
The wedding is over and it's time to take a break from it all - the planners, the family, the wedding party, the OPINONS!! Your honeymoon is designed to be a moment in time to help you and your new spouse transition from your single days into married life. A little break before reality sets in! Melissa and Kerri have very different honeymoon stories. Listen in to hear how they honeymooned, and get some tips and insights on how you can plan the right honeymoon for you and your partner. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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180. The Perspectives Hat
07/18/2024
180. The Perspectives Hat
As they say, perception is reality. Your perspective in life, how you see the world, is based on how you choose to perceive things around you. Do you view things through the lense of a victim? Do you assume that people around you are there to support you? Do you see the glass as half-empty or half-full? Does your perspective differ based on the environment in which you find yourself? Listen to Kerri and Melissa, along with their husbands Sanford and Khalel, talk about how their perspectives in life have shaped their marriages, outlooks, parenting and other areas of their lives. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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179. The Wedding Hat
07/12/2024
179. The Wedding Hat
Wedding bells are ringing! Actually, neither Kerri nor Melissa got married in churches where said bells would likely ring. They have very different wedding stories, but they have each yielded marriages the co-hosts feel blessed to be in. Listen to their wedding stories and get tips you can use when planning your wedding, being in someone else ceremony or sending off your child in matrimony. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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178. The Engagement Hat
07/03/2024
178. The Engagement Hat
It's been decided - you can't imagine life without this person and you want to get married. Yay! It's an exciting time. But, how do you get from that thought to the ring on the finger? Kerri and Melissa's husbands, Sanford and Khalel, joined them for The Engagement Hat. Listen in to how these guys proposed and get some tips to figure out if you (and your partner!) are ready to pop the BIG QUESTION! Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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177. The Supportive Partner Hat
06/26/2024
177. The Supportive Partner Hat
The new component to this season - Kerri and Melissa will welcome their husbands for evey guest episode! It's a big twist, and maybe a little bit of a gamble. But, we are excited to share more from the guests whose episodes have gotten the most listener downloads than anyone else. In the Supportive Partner Hat, Kerri and Melissa (who will still bring you "just them" episodes every other week) talk about what it means to be and have a supportive partner in life. Many people have partners; not all of them get the support they need from their partners. Listen in to get tips on how to be a better partner to your loved ones. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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176. She Said, He Said, We Said
06/19/2024
176. She Said, He Said, We Said
Hello Hatters! We are so happy to finally be back with you again! This has been our longest hiatus ever - thank you for continuing to listen while we prepared to bring you a season like no other. No, we are not going all Gossip Girl as the title would suggest. Instead, we are bringing you what we have to say on the topics, as well as that of our most populat guests - OUR HUSBANDS!! When we bring our husbands to the show, you all listen and share episodes in greater numbers. As they say, we have decided to give the people what they want. So, look forward to Kerri & Mel's usual banter and get ready to hear from their husbands, Sanford & Khalel, every other week! Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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175. We Talked About All the Things ...
04/17/2024
175. We Talked About All the Things ...
A lot of planning and thought go into publishing The Hats Podcast. We have a LOT of ideas. Some of the episodes from Season 7 have been brewing for years, others a few months. But, they are all topics co-hosts Kerri and Melissa have been passionate about bringing to the listeners. What a rich season it has been! Here's a recap you can listen to and see if your highlights are the same as ours! Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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174. The Incarceration Hat
04/03/2024
174. The Incarceration Hat
What most of us know about incarceration comes from television shows and movies. As we all know, things are not always as Hollywood would have them seem. Prison rights activist Yolanda Williams gives us an up close and personal look at life behind bars - how a preacher's kid could end up there and redemption that can be found in the act of wrongdoing. Yolanda's story is fascinating and inspiring. Connect with us: Thank you for listening! We tip our hats to you!
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