The Holy Post

Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.

SKYEpod - SkyeDive: Certainty & Stupidity 07/26/2024

627: Heritage Americans & Palestinian Christians with Munther Isaac 07/24/2024

627: Heritage Americans & Palestinian Christians with Munther Isaac Following the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, some are saying that God saved his life for a divine purpose. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye discuss the selective use of Christian rhetoric surrounding the former President. Then, multiple speakers at the Republican convention used anti-immigrant language associated with the “heritage Americans” movement. We examine the movement and its link to the isolationist and racist policies of the 1920s. And Skye welcome Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac, the pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church in Bethlehem, to talk about the Palestinian Christian community in the Holy Land and the impact of the war in Gaza on the church. 0:00 - Go to and use code SUMMER50 to get 50% off your order. This code expires August 31st, so head there now! 0:36 - Intro 1:52 - Show Starts 3:14 - Theme Song 3:38 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 4:42 - Sponsor - The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club - To get a Full-Size artisanal olive oil for just $1 shipping, go to 5:54 - Update on Lisa Vischer 6:55 - RNC, Biden Dropout—The Apple Cart is Upset! 9:52 - Messianic Interpretations of the Trump Assassination Attempt 18:26 - What Events Do We Assume Are Divine Intervention? 25:50 - Why is Trump Still Winning? 31:45 - The Politically Unengaged, Patriotic, and Exhausted 37:00 - Heritage Americans 45:38 - Reputational Challenges Facing Harris 50:42 - Sponsor - Better Help - Get 10% off your first month at 51:50 - Interview 53:16 - The Christian Palestinian Community 1:04:47 - Palestinian Christian Reactions to October 7th 1:10:20 - The American Church’s Effect on the War 1:16:52 - The Positive Impact of Palestinian Christians 1:22:47 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Kaitlyn’s Appearance on NPR: Skye Jethani’s Racism and Immigration Video: Other resources: The Other Side of the Wall: A Palestinian Christian Narrative of Lament and Hope: Christ at the Checkpoint Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/32266992

626: Political Violence & the Narrow Path with Rich Villodas 07/17/2024

626: Political Violence & the Narrow Path with Rich Villodas On Saturday, Donald Trump narrowly survived an assassin’s bullet. Will this begin to turn down the dehumanizing and apocalyptic rhetoric in our politics, or will it only add fuel for conspiracy theories and extremists? Rich Villodas is back to talk about his new book on the Sermon on the Mount—“The Narrow Path.” He says obeying the sermon “is not how we achieve salvation; it's how we demonstrate it.” And the fact that so few Christians seem to take Jesus’ commands seriously calls their salvation into question. Also this week, Phil reports from “Med City” and Kaitlyn introduces us to Persian ice cream. Holy Post Plus Bonus Interview 0:00 - Go to and use code SUMMER50 to get 50% off your order. This code expires August 31st, so head there now! 0:35 - Intro 1:49 - Show Starts 3:26 - Theme Song 3:47 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 5:00 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to 6:10 - Phil’s Adventure in Med City 10:40 - Club 33 15:33 - Where the Holy Post Crew Was When They Heard About Trump’s Assassination Attempt 19:11 - The Aftermath of the Shooting 34:15 - Catastrophizing, Social Media, and Violence 53:15 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at 54:23 - Interview 58:55 - The Sermon on the Mount and Building House on Rock 53:57 - Why did Campbell write about Christian Nationalism? 1:04:06 - Moralism, Successism, and Individualism 1:08:03 - Does the American Church Lack Salvation? 1:16:53 - Prayer is the Secret to Walking the Narrow Path 1:28:05 - End Credits Other resources: The Narrow Path: How the Subversive Way of Jesus Satisfies Our Souls by Rich Villodas: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/32167907

625: Loving Our Christian Nationalist Neighbors with Caleb Campbell 07/10/2024

625: Loving Our Christian Nationalist Neighbors with Caleb Campbell It’s one thing to fight against a heresy, but what about the people caught in its grasp? Caleb Campbell’s new book, “Disarming Leviathan,” argues Christian Nationalism is an idolatrous, anti-Christian movement, but that we ought to take a gentle, loving, and missional posture toward our friends and neighbors following it. Also this week, Ronald Reagan often said America was a shining “city upon a hill.” Derwin Gray joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss the phrase, its original context in the Sermon on the Mount, and how Puritan colonists used it very differently than modern politicians. Plus, what’s behind all of the hot A.I. images of Jesus? Holy Post Plus Discussion of Project 2025 0:00 - Intro 1:18 - Show Starts 3:18 - Theme Song 3:40 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 4:44 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at 5:52 - Responding to Feedback on Debate Coverage 12:26 - Shining City on a Hill 19:42 - Guiding People Away from Idolatry 30:36 - Perfect Love Casts Out Fear 34:41 - Hot A.I. Jesus 49:30 - Sponsor - Go to and start your song – after you purchase, you’ll be prompted to add Spotify Streaming for your original song for FREE - a $50 value! 50:49 - Sponsor - Wheaton Graduate School - Learn in a rich, rigorous Christian environment - 51:49 - Interview 53:57 - Why did Campbell write about Christian Nationalism? 1:15:15 - Practical Advice 1:23:53 - What About Flipping Tables? 1:33:14 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Is America a City on a Hill or a Nation on the Precipice? Hot AI Jesus is Huge on Facebook Other resources: Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor by Caleb Campbell: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/32071767

624: The Debate Debacle & Our Broken Political Parties with Chris Butler & Justin Giboney 07/03/2024

French Friday: Feckless Politicians & Fearful Churches 06/28/2024

623: Posting the 10 Commandments & America’s Secular Future with John Dickson 06/26/2024

623: Posting the 10 Commandments & America’s Secular Future with John Dickson Louisiana has passed a law requiring the Ten Commandments be posted in every public school classroom. Supporters say it’s about respecting history, law, and the country’s religious heritage. Critics argue it’s completely unconstitutional. What’s really behind the new law? John Dickson says secularism in Australia is ten years ahead of the U.S., and there are valuable lessons the American church can learn from his country about how to thrive in a post-Christian society. Also this week—after two more megachurch pastor scandals we have to ask what’s wrong with our ministry culture. And whales display a dirty new defense against predators. 0.00- Intro 1:41- Show Starts 2:34 - Theme Song 2:56 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 4:02 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community 5:08 - News of the Butt 10:30 - Tony Evans and Robert Morris Step Down from Senior Pastor Roles 25:25 - 10 Commandments Must Be Displayed in Louisiana Classrooms 46:50 - Lisa Vischer Update 51:50 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get on your way to being your best self. 52:58 - Sponsor - Go to to sign up for Skye Jethani’s devotional, With God Daily 54:35 - Interview 1:31:23 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Sperm Whale Poop Cloud Louisiana’s Ten Commandments Mandate David French on the Ten Commandments Other resources: The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism by Tim Alberta: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/31888927

622: How Ideological Purity is Killing Churches with Ryan Burge 06/19/2024

622: How Ideological Purity is Killing Churches with Ryan Burge Remember when churches were seeker-sensitive? The goal was to grow by welcoming newcomers, skeptics, and non-believers. But now it seems some evangelical churches and denominations are more worried about ideological purity than outreach. Sociologist, political scientists, and pastor Ryan Burge is back to talk about the self-defeating trend toward subtraction rather than addition in the church. Also this week, the Southern Baptists decide not to ban all women pastors…yet. Megan Basham claims evangelical leaders aren’t selling out to conservative constituents, but to gain the approval of liberal elites. Death cafes open in L.A., and the Swiss are making tiny computers from brain cells. What could possibly go wrong? 0:00 - Intro 1:18 - Show Starts 3:14 - Theme Song 3:35 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:47 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get 15% off your first order by going to 5:58 - Democracy Betrays News of the Butt 6:38 - What Could Possibly Go Wrong with Swiss Brain-Computers 13:02 - SBC Law Amendment Denied Ratification 20:33 - Baptist Church Conservative Resurgence 25:03 - Being a Cultural War Symbol Rather Than a Person 30:20 - Shepherds for Sale and How Everyone Has Economic Benefit 36:37 - The Temptation to Look Down on Others 41:55 - Modern Death Cafes in Los Angeles 44:28 - Sleeping in a Room with a Casket 51:40 - Sponsor - Better Help - “This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at and get on your way to being your best self.” 52:40 - Interview 59:56 - American Behavior Changing Faster Than Their Beliefs 1:05:43 - The Disappearance of The Christian Left 1:09:22 - Strict Churches vs Moderate Churches 1:22:10 - The Nicene Creed, Doctrine, and Dogma 1:31:53 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Swiss Startup Connects 16 Human Mini-Brains to Create Low Energy ‘Biocomputer’: SBC Law Amendment Vote: Modern Death Cafes in LA: Other resources: Cafeteria Catholicism: Americans Dropping Out of Everything: Most Americans are Still Christians: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/31798757

621: The Rise of Christian Extremism with Elizabeth Neumann 06/12/2024

621: The Rise of Christian Extremism with Elizabeth Neumann After working for the Department of Homeland Security, and more than twenty years as a counterterrorism expert, Elizabeth Neumann says the greatest threat to the U.S. is no longer international Islamic terrorism but domestic Christian extremists. She discusses her new book, “Kingdom of Rage,” with Skye and how conspiracy theories and violent political ideologies have infiltrated American evangelicalism. Also this week, the Southern Baptists debate which is the greater threat to the faith—the Nicene Creed or female pastors. And new data says drinking and smoking has plummeted among teenagers. Should we thank churches or smartphones? Holy Post Plus: 0:00 - Intro 1:22 - Show Starts 4:15 - Theme Song 4:37 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 5:42 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit to find out how to get two FREE e-learning courses and celebrate World Refugee Day with World Relief! 6:49 - Why Phil Was Expelled from Bible School (It’s Less Scandalous Than You Think!) 9:42 - The Annual SBC Meeting and Women Preaching, the Law Amendment 13:48 - Conservative SBC and Why Churches Split 19:26 - Motivations Behind Doctrine Changes matter 31:38 - Drinking, Smoking, and Chewing Tobacco Uncommon Amongst Gen Z 37:18 - Drinking’s Down, Depression’s Up 42:07 - The Church Community Stands Out in an Age of Loneliness 47:13 - Sponsor - Go to to sign up for Skye Jethani’s devotional, With God Daily 48:51 - Interview 54:04 - From Focusing on International Threats to Domestic Threats 58:13 - The Mainstreaming of Replacement Theory 1:04:54 - How Neumann Avoided Radicalization 1:09:40 - The Needs That Make People Susceptible to Radicalization 1:18:18 - The Scale That Makes Domestic Radicalization a Huge Threat 1:25:04 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: The SBC’s Proposed Law Amendment Does Going to Church Keep High Schoolers from Drinking and Smoking? Other resources: Kingdom of Rage: The Rise of Christian Extremism and the Path Back to Peace: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/31706532

620: Applying the 7 Deadly Sins in a Secular Age with Elizabeth Oldfield 06/05/2024

620: Applying the 7 Deadly Sins in a Secular Age with Elizabeth Oldfield Lord Acton famously said, “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Was he right? Mike Erre is back to discuss the way Christians think about power, and why he believes our pursuit of power over the world is not the way of Jesus. Then, author Elizabeth Oldfield talks with Kaitlyn about her new book, “Fully Alive,” which uses the Seven Deadly Sins as a bridge for introducing secular people to the wisdom of Christianity. Also this week—the verdict in the Trump trail, a very unique fossil museum opens in Arizona, and Phil creates a fun new game for Christians called “Is It Persecution?” 0:00 - Intro 2:09 - Show Starts 4:15 - Theme Song 4:37 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 5:56 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 7:09 - Wearing Cicadas 9:13 - News of the Pooseum 13:11 - New Game: Am I Being Persecuted? 18:55 - Donald Trump Martyr Complex 29:15 - Mike on Politically-Driven Spiritual-Malformation 34:13 - Fitch and The Ontologically-Rooted Corruption of Power 52:37 - Sponsor - Go to and start your original song! 53:55 - Sponsor - Better Help - Get 10% off your first month at 54:55- Interview 56:26 - Elizabeth Oldfield’s Faith Background 1:00:39 - Writing with a Secular Audience in Mind 1:03:48 - What Radicalized the Republican Voter Base? 1:12:13 - PLM Syndrome 1:18:53 - Attention vs. The Deadly Sin of Sloth 1:24:17 - Why Save God for the End of the Book? 1:29:39 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Pooseum: Reckoning with Power: Why the Church Fails When It’s on the Wrong Side of Power by David Fitch: Other resources: Fully Alive: Tending to the Soul in Turbulent Times by Elizabeth Oldfield: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/31605022

French Friday: The Trump Verdict, Flawed Heroes, & Shogun 05/31/2024

619: Human Sinfulness and the Evangelical Legacy of Slavery 05/29/2024

619: Human Sinfulness and the Evangelical Legacy of Slavery In a recent 60 minutes interview, Pope Francis sparked controversy when he claimed that humans are fundamentally good. Katelyn Beaty joins Phil and Kaitlyn to discuss the Pope's comments, and why our theology needs to include both the doctrine that all humans are made in the image of God and an understanding of original sin. Also, new survey data suggests that the "Religious Nones" have plateaued and religious affiliation among Gen Z is on the rise. We discuss why this might be happening and how the "weirdness" of Christianity is what makes it appealing to so many people right now. Then Skye sits down with Sean McGever to discuss his new book, Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield. They explore how these three historical evangelical leaders navigated the morality of slavery and the lasting impact it is still having on the Church today. Plus, even priests are not immune to Florida Man Syndrome. 0:00 - Intro 1:36 - Show Starts 2:58 - Theme Song 3:20 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 4:24 - World Relief - Visit to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community 5:39 - Italian Island Overrun by Goats 10:31 - Pope Francis Calls Humans “Fundamentally Good?” 28:20 - Ryan Burge and the Plateauing of the Nones 45:57 - Florida Priest Bites Woman 50:18 - Sponsor - Better Help - “This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at and get on your way to being your best self.” 51:17 - Interview 59:56 - Opposing Slave Trade, but Not Slavery 1:09:47 - How Edwards, Whitfield, and Wesley Influenced Attitudes About Slavery 1:20:05 - Avoiding Moral Blindspots 1:27:12 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Alicudi: Italian Island Offers Goats Up for Adoption Pope Francis Draws Accusations of Heresy for Saying Humans are Good Ryan Burge and Nones Plateau Florida Priest Admits Biting Woman in Defense of Eucharist Other resources: Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield by Sean McGever: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/31503267

618: Commencement Controversy & Racial Reconciliation with Latasha Morrison 05/22/2024

618: Commencement Controversy & Racial Reconciliation with Latasha Morrison Kansas City Chiefs Kicker, Harrison Butker, recently gave a controversial commencement address at Benedictine College where he drew on some popular conservative talking points about Pride Month, Covid 19 policies, and the calling of women in the home. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the problems they had with the speech, as well as their frustrations with some of the criticism of the speech, and how Butker's views seem to have been influenced more by conservative politics than the historic Catholic position on these issues. Then, Kaitlyn sits down with Latasha Morrison to talk about her new book, "Brown Faces, White Spaces." They discuss the importance of understanding historical context to grasp the roots and impacts of systemic racism, and practical ways that churches and individuals can engage in the work of racial reconciliation. Plus, a megachurch in Texas tried to manipulate a traffic study for a stop light, and Phil thinks he has proof that News of the Butt is the best part of the podcast. Holy Post Plus 0:00 - Intro 1:29 - Show Starts 2:26 - Theme Song 2:47 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:00 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get 15% off your first order by going to 5:11 - Megachurch Manipulates Stoplight Placement 10:49 - News of the Butt Supporters Speak Out 13:35 - Harrison Butker 23:00 - Why Did Butker’s Speech Get So Much Attention? 29:31 - Pope Francis Says Conservatives Have “Suicidal” Mindset 37:12 - Is the Media More Spiritually Formative Than the Pope? 44:15 - Sponsor - Better Help - Get 10% off your first month at 45:11 - Sponsor - Go to and start your original song! 46:40 - Interview 48:20 - What is “Be the Bridge?” 55:37 - Understanding Historical Context in Discussing Racial Divide 59:02 - Why She Combined Personal History, Data, and the Bible in “Be the Bridge” 1:03:40 - How Scripture Informs Justice 1:14:14 - Jesus, the Suffering Servant 1:19:53 - Maintaining Hope for Restoration 1:24:48 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Texas Megachurch Hits the Brakes After Trying to Skew a Traffic Study: Benedictine Sisters of Mount St. Scholastica Rebut Harrison Butker as No One Else Could: Pope Francis says U.S. Conservatives Have a “Suicidal Attitude”: Other resources: Be the Bridge: Pursuing God’s Heart for Racial Reconciliation: Brown Faces, White Spaces: Confronting Systemic Racism to Bring Healing and Restoration: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/31408592

617: Apple Crushes It & the Future of Christianity with Matthew Niermann 05/15/2024

617: Apple Crushes It & the Future of Christianity with Matthew Niermann A new iPad advertisement showing musical instruments and art supplies being crushed by a hydraulic press has triggered a backlash against Apple and provoked a wider discussion about the impact of technology on communities and creativity. Jonathan Haidt says religious kids have better mental health on average because they’re connected to incarnate congregations, and the Catholic Church disciplines an AI priest. Then, Kaitlyn talks to Matthew Niermann about the Lausanne Movement’s massive new report on global Christianity and the major trends shaping the future of the church. Also this week—beware of cicada rain! Holy Post Plus 0:00 - Intro 0:42 - Show Starts 1:54 - Theme Song 2:16 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 3:22 - World Relief - Visit to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community 4:13 - Catching up on learning German and the Holy Post live event 8:44 - Cicadas’ Powerful Urine 13:41- Apple Crushes Incarnation 23:58 - The Desire of Incarnation 29:01 - Jonathan Haidt and the Anxious Secular Kids 35:30 - An AI Priest is laicized 48:24 - The Church in a Hydraulic Press 55:17 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life - Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at 56:26 - Interview 58:03 - What is The Lausanne Movement? 1:02:35 - Polycentric Christianity 1:12:27 - What Challenges and Opportunities Come with this Shift? 1:20:30 - The Question of Our Era: What Does it Mean to be Human? 1:30:35 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Why Cicadas Power Spray Their Pee Rage Against the Apple Machine Jonathan Haidt Religion Tweet AI ‘Priest’ Sparks More Online Backlash Than Belief Other resources: Lausanne Movement: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/31296722

616: Black Church Politics & Messy Authenticity with Nancy French 05/08/2024

616: Black Church Politics & Messy Authenticity with Nancy French Phil is back! He gives an update about his family’s harrowing medical emergency. Then, new data shows the Democratic Party’s grip on Black Christians may be slipping. Esau McCaulley shares his take on the reason. Nancy French talks with Skye about the themes in her new memoir, “Ghosted,” including church sexual abuse, political tribalism, trauma, and her miraculous experiences with God. Also this week—another book ban backfires, and defensive driving Florida style. Holy Post Plus Getting Schooled - Christian Presidents 0:00 - Intro 1:38 - Show Starts 3:10 - Theme Song 3:32 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 4:52 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 6:04 - Phil Explains the Medical Emergency 15:52 - The Surgery 24:25 - Esau’s Childhood Stomach Surgery 26:50 - Florida Man Rescues Friend from Alligator 28:14 - Florida Man Tries to Ban Bible from Schools 35:06 - Have Democrats Lost the Black Church? 49:03 - Esau’s Dream Proposal 52:31 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at 53:28 - Interview 55:10 - Charismatic Experiences 59:18 - How Did the Frenches Not End Up in MAGA? 1:03:48 - What Radicalized the Republican Voter Base? 1:08:25 - Where There Signs 20 Years Ago That Radicalization Was Coming? 1:11:30 - Pro-Life Republicans Changing Their Stances? 1:22:20 - What’s the Future for the GOP? 1:33:58 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Man Runs Over Alligator with Truck to Save Neighbor from Attack Florida Atheist Uses State’s New Book Banning Law to Object to the Bible Have Democrats Lost the Black Church? Other resources: Ghosted: an American Story by Nancy French: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/31182597

615: Taylor Swift’s Sacrilege & the Future of the Republican Party with Peter Wehner 05/01/2024

615: Taylor Swift’s Sacrilege & the Future of the Republican Party with Peter Wehner Swifties are celebrating the record-breaking release of two new albums, but some conservative Christians are not happy. They’re accusing Taylor Swift of mocking Christianity and promoting witchcraft. Our resident Swiftie, Kaitlyn Schiess, explains the controversy. Then, former presidential speechwriter and contributor to The Atlantic, Pete Wehner, talks with Skye about the future of the Republican Party. Will the Trump spell ever break? Also this week—the end of America’s monoculture, and how dumb were dinosaurs? 00 - Intro 1:03 - Show Starts 2:15 - Theme Song 2:35 - Sponsor - Wheaton Graduate School - Learn in a rich, rigorous Christian environment - 3:36 - Sponsor - The Pour Over - Subscribe for free to news that points to eternal hope - 4:50 - Update on Phil 6:08 - Dinosaurs—Were They Smart? 13:00 - Is Taylor Swift Mocking Christians? 15:12 - Taylor Swift’s Bohemian Mishmash 18:12 - Artistic vs Political Usage of Biblical Language 23:13 - Taylor Swift and Kids 23:23 - Children and Public Spaces 31:02 - Portrayal vs Endorsement 35:18 - Everything is a Cult Now and 20th Century Communication Technology 40:17 - What Even is Mainstream? 44:27 - Labels and the Good Samaritan 50:14 - Choice and Community 55:43 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at 56:42 - Sponsor - Go to and start your song – after you purchase, you’ll be prompted to add Spotify Streaming for your original song for FREE! That’s a $50 value! 58:13 - Interview 1:03:48 - What Radicalized the Republican Voter Base? 1:08:25 - Where There Signs 20 Years Ago That Radicalization Was Coming? 1:11:30 - Pro-Life Republicans Changing Their Stances? 1:22:20 - What’s the Future for the GOP? 1:33:58 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: T. Rex Was Probably About As Intelligent as a Crocodile Taylor Swift’s Religious Imagery for a Spiritually Syncretic Era Taylor Swift Mocks Christianity in Her New Album Everything’s a Cult Now Other resources: The Death of Politics: How to Heal Our Frayed Republic After Trump: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/31059338

French Friday: Israel’s Error and College Protests 04/26/2024

614: The Rise of Raunchy Christians & Avoiding Civil War with Tracy McKenzie 04/24/2024

614: The Rise of Raunchy Christians & Avoiding Civil War with Tracy McKenzie Previously puritanical evangelicals are increasingly embracing profanity and lewd content. A recent New York Times article explores possible explanations ranging from politics and the culture wars, to the internet and the decline of churches. Also, fewer people are reading books, and that’s a challenge for Christian traditions rooted in literacy, education, and the Bible. How do we make disciples in a post-literate culture? Then, more people are comparing our divisive culture to America just before the Civil War. Are we heading toward a national divorce—or worse? Historian Tracy McKenzie is back to share lessons and warnings from 19th century America. Plus, new developments as the turducken turns. 0:00 - Sponsor - Richmont Graduate University - Join a Christian mental health counseling program! Use referral code HOLYPOST at checkout to skip the application fee. Go to 0:37 - Intro 1:56 - Show Starts 3:10 - Theme Song 3:31- Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 4:36 - Stronger Men’s Conference Story Continued 14:46 - Raunchy Christians 23:23 - Children and Public Spaces 33:00 - Literacy and Discipleship 35:38 - Hearing vs. Reading the Bible 42:23 - Can Churches be the Antidote for a Lonely, Digital World? 51:13 - Integrating Technology and Scripture 55:17 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community 56:03 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at 57:03 - Interview 59:03 - Can We Compare Today and 1850? 1:03:21 - How Has Media Affected Current Politics? 1:15:16 - The Role of Conspiracy Theories 1:24:42 - Why Were We More Unified in the Past? 1:35:00 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: John Lindell and Mark Driscoll Biblical Literacy in a Postliterate Age The Raunchy Christians Are Here Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30957968

613: Driscoll, Dawkins, & Political Discipleship with Curtis Chang 04/17/2024

613: Driscoll, Dawkins, & Political Discipleship with Curtis Chang Atheist Richard Dawkins has said he doesn’t believe one word of the Christian faith, but he now considers himself a “cultural Christian” and wants to defend the Christian values of his country against the influence of Islam and immigrants. Does this represent an alignment between the New Atheists and Christian Nationalists? Curtis Chang shares about “The After Party”—the new curriculum he’s developed with David French and Russel Moore to help Christians focus on hope and humility rather than partisanship. Also this week, Mark Driscoll gets booted from a men’s conference. And another infraction by a Florida man with a Bible. Holy Post Plus Getting Schooled - Mariah W. Stewart 0:00 - Intro 1:02 - Show Starts 3:02 - Theme Song 3:23 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:35 - Florida Man Scales Tower with Bible 12:00 - Mark Driscoll Kicked Off Stage After Calling Sword-Swallower a “Jezebel Spirit” 22:35 - Richard Dawkins, the “Cultural Christian” 36:40 - Dusty Deavers, the Country Singin’ Senator 46:06 - Pray for the Middle East 50:46 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get 15% off your first order by going to 51:54 - Sponsor - Hatch - Form better bedtime habits today with Hatch—$20 off and free shipping when you order the Restore at 52:55 - Interview 1:04:34 - The “What” vs the “How” 1:16:26 - Four Quadrant of Political Engagement 1:27:19 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Florida Man Climbs Cell Phone Tower Sword-Swallower on a Pole and Mark Driscoll Richard Dawkins and Cultural Christianity Other resources: The After Party: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30853843

612: The Religious Vacuum, Politics, & the Powers with N.T. Wright 04/10/2024

612: The Religious Vacuum, Politics, & the Powers with N.T. Wright This week we’re discussing a series of articles exploring what we’re gaining and losing as fewer Americans are committed to religion and attending church. Even some non-believers are beginning to worry that the decline in religion may not be good for society, but does it also represent a new opportunity for the message of Christianity? Then, N.T. Wright is back to discuss his new book with co-author Michael Bird, “Jesus and the Powers.” While everyone knows mixing faith and politics can be dangerous, Wright says there’s also a danger when we refuse to mix them. He talks to Skye about what the Bible says on matters of church and state, and why we should defend liberal democracy despite its many problems. Also this week: Is the sun alive? And a Florida man shares the Bible at Walgreens on Easter. 0:00 - Sponsor - Richmont Graduate University - Join a Christian mental health counseling program! Use referral code HOLYPOST at checkout to skip the application fee. Go to 0:35 - Intro 1:21 - Show Starts 3:08 - Theme Song 3:30 - Sponsor - Wheaton Graduate School - Learn in a rich, rigorous Christian environment - 4:34 - Kaitlyn’s new show announcement! 8:08 - Curiously, Kaitlyn Trailer - Go to to check it out! 10:15 - Florida Man Strikes Again (with a Bible) on Easter 13:43 - Does the Sun Dream of Electric Sheep? Consciousness and the Sun. 19:43 - The Cost of the Churchgoing Bust 28:52 - How Trump Fills the Secular Void 44:19 - Is Trumpism Emptying Churches? 52:24 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 53:28 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at 54:33 - Interview 56:02 - Why Doesn’t Separation of Church and State Work? 1:14:02 - Does the Kingdom of Heaven Imply There Will Be No Government? 1:17:10 - When Should Christians Submit to Governing Authorities? 1:24:56 - The Value of Liberal Democracy 1:30:15 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Florida Man Arrested for Hitting Manager with a Bible on Easter The Sun’s Consciousness Trump is Emptying Churches How Trump Fills a Void in an Increasingly Secular America The True Cost of the Churchgoing Bust Other resources: Jesus and the Powers: Christian Political Witness in an Age of Totalitarian Terror and Dysfunctional Democracies by N. T. Wright and Michael F. Bird: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30754168

611: Trump’s Bible, Biden’s Easter, and Climate Change for Christians with Katharine Hayhoe 04/03/2024

611: Trump’s Bible, Biden’s Easter, and Climate Change for Christians with Katharine Hayhoe The newest Holy Post team member, Esau McCaulley, joins Phil and Skye to discuss two stories that caused outrage from both ends of the political spectrum during Holy Week. Trump is selling an American flag-wrapped Bible, and the Biden administration honored “Transgender Visibility Day” on Easter. And why are Catholic Charities being attacked for helping immigrants? Then Skye talks to atmospheric scientist Katharine Hayhoe about how her evangelical faith led her to become a climate scientist. She says combating global warming is part of our call to love our neighbors and care for the least of these. Plus, an “emerging behavior” on Twitch grabs Phil’s attention. Holy Post Plus Bonus Interview 0:00 - Sponsor - Richmont Graduate University - Join a Christian mental health counseling program! Use referral code HOLYPOST at checkout to skip the application fee. Go to 0:35 - Intro 1:54 - Show Starts 3:45 - Theme Song 4:06 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 5:02 - Esau the Hufflepuff 8:56 - News of the Butt, Twitch 14:41 - The “God Bless the USA” Bible 38:36 - Catholic Charities Targeted by Far-Right 49:09 - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 50:20 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at 51:25 - Interview 54:51 - What Changed Things for Katharine Heyhoe 1:03:49 - Are Evangelicals the Stumbling Block for Stopping Climate Change? 1:25:26 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: “God Bless the USA” Bibles Threats to Catholic Charity Staffers Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30651973

French Friday: TikTok Ban & Who Should Hold the Reins of Social Media 03/29/2024

610: Learning to Disagree Respectfully with John Inazu 03/27/2024

610: Learning to Disagree Respectfully with John Inazu Since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade almost two years ago, the debate about abortion has taken on new dimensions. Factions within the pro-life camp are now battling each other. Could they break apart the Religious Right? Then, Kaitlyn interviews professor of Law and Religion, John Inazu, about his new book, “Learning to Disagree.” He says our differences don’t have to become divisions, which is a timely message in an election year. Plus, is Indonesia hiding a secret island of Hobbits? And a new documentary asks if Jesus was a vegetarian? Holy Post Plus Getting Schooled - Maria W. Stewart SKYEpod - What Improv Teaches Us About Faith 0:00 - World Relief - Visit to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community 0:55 - Intro 2:29 - Show Starts 5:20 - Theme Song 5:42 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life - Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at 6:49 - Sponsor - Hatch - Form better bedtime habits today with Hatch—$20 off and free shipping when you order the Restore at 7:53 - Christspiracy—Was Jesus Vegan? 15:45 - Homo Floresiensis Skeleton Found in Indonesia 25:02 - Does Personhood Start at Conception? 41:23 - Why “Life Begins at Conception” is a Misleading Phrase 1:00:00 - Sponsor - Pro Grace - Go to to get resources 1:01:56 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at 1:03:00 - Interview 1:15:40 - Is it Our Job to Change Someone’s Mind? 1:22:42 - Why Ignoring Our Differences Doesn’t Help 1:31:34 - Dropping Our Self-Protective Impulse 1:35:19 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Was Jesus Vegetarian? “Hobbits” in Flores, Indonesia? Other resources: Learning to Disagree: The Surprising Path to Navigating Differences with Empanth and Respect by John Inazu: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30553888

609: Rebounding Pastors, Shifting Evangelicals, & Rethinking Christian Media with Jon Houghton 03/20/2024

609: Rebounding Pastors, Shifting Evangelicals, & Rethinking Christian Media with Jon Houghton After a number of difficult years and dismal statistics, a new report from Barna says pastors are on the mend. Another book about “ex-vangelicals” has been released. Does it have anything new to add to the conversation? And a record number of Latinos in the U.S. are leaving Catholicism to become Pentecostal evangelicals. What does it mean for the future of the church? Then, Holy Post Media’s CEO, Jon Houghton, joins Skye to discuss how he’s leading the organization, why Christian media needs to change, and the new projects launching this year. Plus, Wrinkle the duck, Albert the alligator, and an "audacious scheme" with super sheep. Genesis Explainer Video Holy Post Plus Getting Schooled - Macrina the Younger 0:00 - Intro 1:02 - Show Starts 2:10 - Theme Song 2:31 - Sponsor - AG1 - Get your FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase, go to 3:51 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 5:03 - Petitions to Change News of the Butt 6:18 - Animal News, Wrinkle the Duck in a Buc-ee’s 10:16 - Animal News, Giant Blind Alligator Swims with Children 13:22 - Animal News, Montana Mountain King, the Giant Super-Sheep 20:25 - Are the Pastors Doing Better? 25:06 - The Exvangelicals 38:42 - Are New People Coming to Evangelicalism? 49:17 - Latinos Moving from Catholicism to Evangelicalism 54:56 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get 15% off your first order by going to Blueland dot com slash HOLYPOST 56:02 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at 57:10 - Interview 59:12 - Why Did Jon Houghton Want to Join the Holy Post? 1:03:09 - Why Did We Hire Jon Houghton to Join the Holy Post? 1:10:05 - Why Are We a For-Profit Company? 1:18:37 - Directions for Projects Going Forward 1:22:36 - Kaitlyn Schiess’s New Show 1:34:49 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Duck Banned from Buc-ee’s Albert the Alligator Swam with Children and Was Seized by Authorities Giant Sheep Clone, Montana Mountain King Hopeful Increase for Pastors “Exvangelicals” Book Latinos Flock to Evangelicalism Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30445843

608: Defining the Gospel & Who’s a “Real” Christian with Matthew Bates 03/13/2024

608: Defining the Gospel & Who’s a “Real” Christian with Matthew Bates Earlier this year, John MacArthur said that Martin Luther King Jr. was “a nonbeliever who misrepresented everything about Christ and the gospel.” Last week, Justin Giboney responded with an article in CT explaining why MacArthur was wrong about MLK. This leads Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye to ask when is it appropriate to define who is, and who is not, a true Christian, and what criteria should we use? Theologian Matthew Bates is back to discuss his new book, “Why the Gospel?” He defines six popular “malformed” gospels, and why bypassing the importance of Jesus’ kingship is dangerous for the church. Also this week—A Christian musician from Ireland claims Taylor Swift is satanic, and beware of the bonnacon! Holy Post Plus Getting Schooled - Changing Minds 0:00 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community 0:56 - Intro 2:46 - Show Starts 5:05 - Theme Song 5:27 - Sponsor - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 6:34 - News of the Butt 12:47 - Taylor Swift Satanic Ritual 21:57 - John MacArthur on Martin Luther King Jr. 48:46 - Should We Ask Who Is or Isn’t a Christian? 51:23 - Sponsor - Better Help - Get 10% off your first month at 52:21 - Sponsor - Tyndale - Order the Study Life Application Study Bible today at 53:25 - Interview 54:19 - Why the Gospel? 59:49 - The Kinghood of Jesus 1:06:41- Christ Installed on the Throne 1:37:43 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Animal with ‘Amazing Flatulence’ Found in Medieval Book Taylor Swift is Engaging in Satanic Rituals in Live Shows, Christian Artist Claims: ‘Music is Dangerous’ Why John MacArthur is Wrong About MLK Mass Deportation of Immigrants Destroys More Native-Born American Jobs Than They Create Other resources: Why the Gospel? Living the Good News of King Jesus with a Purpose by Matthew W. Bates: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30345123

607: The Gift of Disillusionment with Mike Cosper 03/06/2024

607: The Gift of Disillusionment with Mike Cosper CORRECTION - The initial audio file uploaded this morning was missing the last 10 minutes. If your phone automatically downloads the episode, remove the download and then redownload it, and that should take care of the issue. Sorry for the inconvenience! 607: Are you feeling disillusioned about your faith? About your church? You’re definitely not alone. Creator of “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” podcast, Mike Cosper, is back to talk about his new book, “Land of My Sojourn,” and how he came to embrace disillusionment as a gift. Also this week, Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss a new article trying to define and differentiate Christian Conservatism from Christian Nationalism. And they use these definitions to interpret Donald Trump’s recent remarks to the National Religious Broadcasters. Plus, Italy is using DNA testing to catch canine public offenders. Holy Post Plus Welcome Esau McCaulley to the Team 0:00 - Intro 2:03 - Show Starts 3:20 - Theme Song 3:42 - Sponsor - AG1 - Get your FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase, go to 5:02 - Sponsor - Hatch - Form better bedtime habits today with Hatch—$20 off and free shipping when you order the Restore at 6:09 - Sam the Eagle 7:46 - Announcement 10:50 - News of the Butt - Dog Poop DNA Test 18:06 - Christian Nationalism vs Christian Conservatism 35:34 - Conservative, Nationalist, or Blasphemous Game Show 57:46 - Sponsor - Better Help - Get 10% off your first month at 58:44 - Sponsor - Tyndale - Order the Study Life Application Study Bible today at 59:47 - Interview 1:01:51 - Land of my Sojourn 1:08:08 - Why do we stay in denial? 1:17:54 - Seminary Preacher’s Sons 1:22:58 - Who Does Church Planting Draw? 1:37:43 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Christian Conservatism vs. Christian Nationalism Trump Revival of Christian Power Speech Other resources: Land of my Sojourn: The Landscape of a Faith Lost and Found: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30246193

606: Alabama Embryos & Catechizing Kids with Todd Hains & Natasha Kennedy 02/28/2024

606: Alabama Embryos & Catechizing Kids with Todd Hains & Natasha Kennedy Last week the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that frozen embryos created for in-vitro fertilization have the legal status of children, essentially ending all IVF treatments in the state. Some are applauding the ruling as both a morally and theologically consistent affirmation of human life. But others, including some Christians, are saying the pro-life movement is taking things too far. Then, how do we teach kids the core doctrines of the Christian faith when most adults in our churches don’t know them either? Kaitlyn interviews the creators of a new series of children’s books designed to catechize both kids and their parents. Also this week, a new survey suggests Christian Nationalism is in decline, but we think the data is hot garbage. Holy Post Plus Holy Post Office - Should We Submit to Pastors? 0:00 - Intro 2:13- Show Starts 3:47 - Theme Song 4:09 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 5:14 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at 6:25 - Jesus and Candy 8:42 - Alabama IVF Law 35:27 - Poorly Phrased Christian Nationalism Survey 48:57 - Sponsor - Better Help - Get 10% off your first month at 49:56 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at 51:05 - Interview with Todd Hains & Natasha Kennedy 54:06 - Importance of Catechesis 56:51 - Getting it Published at Lexam 1:03:22 - Not Dumbing it Down 1:08:11 - The Approach to the Illustrations 1:27:07 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Ryan Burge Article Christianity Today Article Other resources: FatCat Books: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30141213

French Friday: Biden's Age & MAGA's Violence 02/23/2024

605: Market-Driven Christianity & Abortion Beyond Politics with Angela Weszely 02/21/2024

605: Market-Driven Christianity & Abortion Beyond Politics with Angela Weszely A new book argues that the rise and decline of the Contemporary Christian Music industry helps explain the political idolatry of many Christians, and Karen Swallow Prior says the biblical manhood industry is a scam. These stories lead Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn to discuss whether American evangelicalism is defined more by consumer markets than by theology. Angie Weszely, the CEO of ProGrace, is back to talk about how the church can actually create a culture of life after the overturning of Roe. She says we need to stop seeing abortion as primarily a political and legal issue, and instead recognize that it’s also a pastoral, practical, and emotional one. Also this week, why does Tucker love Russia? And Trumpers ’n sneakers. Holy Post Plus - Getting Schooled - Revelation 0:00 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community 1:10 - Intro 2:53 - Show Starts 3:49 - Theme Song 4:09 - Sponsor - Pro Grace - Go to to get resources 5:29 - Skye’s Theory on Tucker Carlson 10:06 - Trump’s Snazzy Gold Sneakers 13:09 - CCM as a Reflection of American Christianity 43:49 - Biblical Manhood Industrial 54:33 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get 15% off your first order by going to 55:39 - Sponsor - Go to and start your song – after you purchase, you’ll be prompted to add Spotify Streaming for your original song for FREE! That’s a $50 value! 57:10 - Interview 59:25 - Why “Should it be Legal” Isn’t Enough 1:07:58 - Ending vs. Banning Abortion 1:12:57 - Communicating without Shaming 1:19:04 - The Power of Grace 1:29:32 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: How Contemporary Christian Music Explains American Christianity The ‘Biblical Manhood’ Industry is a Scam Links: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: Holy Post Events: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/30041503

604: Faulty Foot Washing & Pagan Christianity with Nijay Gupta 02/14/2024

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