The Holy Post

Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.

French Friday - Abortions Rise & Civic Ignorance 09/29/2023

584: Dress Codes, Growing Fears, & Why Grace is Still Amazing with Philip Yancey 09/27/2023

584: Dress Codes, Growing Fears, & Why Grace is Still Amazing with Philip Yancey The Senate is relaxing its dress code so senators can wear hoodies and gym shorts, but senate staffers are still required to wear suits and ties. Is it a meaningless change or the sign of wider institutional decay? A new study finds 7 out of 10 pastors say their congregations are more fearful about the world and the future. Are they really being shaped by the gospel of Christ or by the fearmongers in the media? And researchers asked religious Americans, what’s the bigger problem today—actual racism or false accusations of racism? The responses are telling. Then, author Philip Yancey is back for the 25th anniversary of his best-selling book, “What So Amazing About Grace?” He says our culture is even more divided and condemning than when he first wrote the book in the 1990s, and he examines why grace has fallen out of favor even among Christians and how to get it back. Holy Post Plus: Getting Schooled - Christian Asks - How Can We Know an Unknowable God? 0:00 - Intro 1:31 - Show starts 2:05 - Theme Song 2:28 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at 3:41 - Taylor Swift 6:34 - Dress Codes 15:44 - Growing fear in church congregations 36:20 - White Evangelicals claim racism is overblown 43:46 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout - Sponsor - Fast Growing Trees Get 15% off your entire order when you go to but only through October 15th 46:01 - Interview Intro Philip Yancey 48:07 - The original version of “What’s So Amazing About Grace” 53:29 - The need for grace 1:08:12 - Why social outcasts are often drawn to Jesus 1:15:27 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Skye’s Twitter Rant - Nearly 70% of churchgoers have 'a growing sense of fear': Lifeway Research White Christians say too many see racism when it’s not there, new poll finds Other resources: What's So Amazing About Grace? Revised and Updated by Philip Yancey Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/28152620

Why I'm Still a Christian with Kristin Du Mez 09/25/2023

583: One Black Family’s Story about Poverty, Racism, & Grace with Esau McCaulley 09/20/2023

583: One Black Family’s Story about Poverty, Racism, & Grace with Esau McCaulley Theologian and writer, Esau McCaulley, is back to talk about his new memoir “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family’s Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” He says there is grace in learning to tell the complicated facets of his family’s story, rather than reducing it to a single story about race, poverty, or trauma. McCaulley believes that’s a lesson we need to apply to America’s story as well. Also this week, David Brooks writes about the courage and wisdom of three women during World War II. What do their stories tell us about the Christian life today? Plus, why are men thinking so much about the Roman Empire? And a three-legged bear walks into a bar. Holy Post Plus: Getting Schooled - The Social Gospel 101 0:00 - Intro 1:22 - Show starts 2:13 - Theme Song 2:35 - Sponsor - Magic Spoon Go to and use code HOLYPOST to get $5 off 4:15 - A Three-Legged Bear Walks Into a Bar 10:23 - Men Thinking About Ancient Rome 16:58 - David Brooks’ article on women and wisdom 43:26 - Sponsor - Hiya Health Go to hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 44:31 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at 45:43 - Interview Intro Esau McCaulley 49:32 - Why Esau wrote a memoir 54:28 - The Black American Experience 1:20:34 - Fatherhood 1:26:48 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: A Three-Legged Bear Walks Into a Bar Men Think About the Roman Empire All the Time. Here’s What Women Say They Think About The Feminine Way to Wisdom Other resources: How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South by Esau McCaulley Esau McCaulley - Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/28086530

Why I’m Still a Christian with Lecrae 09/18/2023

582: The Rise and Fall of New Atheism with Justin Brierley 09/13/2023

582: The Rise and Fall of New Atheism with Justin Brierley If you live in a part of the country that was originally settled by Puritans or Quakers you will probably live a lot longer than if you live in a region colonized by the Scots, the Irish, or that was dominated by slavery. A new article explores why this is true, and we discuss how immigration patterns from 200 years ago even impacts how we read the Bible. UK broadcast, speaker, and host of the Unbelievable? Podcast, Justin Brierley, is back to discuss his new book, “The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God.” In it he documents how the same political divisions and culture war issues that are dividing the church have also ruptured the New Atheism movement, and how that’s leading more academics and intellectuals to reconsider the claims of Christianity. Also this week—the internet prevents dementia, and what books can we still burn in Denmark? Holy Post Plus: Christian Asks - How to make sense of God’s wrath and anger 0:00 - Intro 1:29 - Show starts 2:05 - Theme Song 2:27 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at 3:41 - Older adults should use the internet? 10:03 - Denmark bans burning religious texts 18:36 - America’s Surprising Partisan Divide on Life Expectancy 45:06 - “Why I’m Still a Christian” trailer 47:33 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog food 48:45 - Sponsor - AG1 50:18 - Interview Intro Justin Brierley 53:48 - The Rise of New Atheism 58:33 - The Fall of New Atheism (Elevator Gate) 1:09:09 - Surprising Allies 1:28:44 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Older adults who regularly use the internet have half the risk of dementia compared to non-regular users Denmark to Ban Public Burning of the Bible and Quran America’s Surprising Partisan Divide on Life Expectancy Other resources: The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God: Why New Atheism Grew Old and Secular Thinkers Are Considering Christianity Again by Justin Brierley Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/28014339

581: How Evangelicalism Lost Its Way with Russell Moore 09/06/2023

581: How Evangelicalism Lost Its Way with Russell Moore A prominent conservative Calvinist has denounced white Christian Nationalism as heretical and racist, but the movement is still gaining popularity within theologically Reformed circles. How deep is this divide among the anti-woke theobros? New data says the massive rise in loneliness and depression is linked to the rise in singleness, and that marriage remains the best predictor of happiness. Then, Russell Moore is back to discuss his new book, “Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America.” He explains how evangelical churches form people to value authoritarian leadership, why evangelicalism’s response to market forces is a great strength and its fatal weakness, and how the fear that drives so many evangelicals is a betrayal of the faith. Plus, cows in cars getting caught. Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview with Russell Moore 0:00 - Intro 1:31 - Show starts 3:54 - Theme Song 4:15 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at 5:29 - Shotgun Riding Bull 12:28 - Owen Strachan calls out white nationalist theobros 33:33 - New report says marriage makes you happier 44:31 - Sponsor - Hiya Health Go to to receive 50% off your first order 45:36 - Sponsor - Blueland To get 15% off your first order, go to 46:45 - Interview Intro Russell Moore 49:46 - Market Driven Christianity 55:57 - Authoritarianism 1:08:08 - Fear Driven Evangelicalism 1:31:44 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Norfolk police pull over man with bull riding shotgun Calvinist activist warns that white nationalism is invading Reformed churches The best predictor of happiness in America? Marriage Stop Swiping. Start Settling. Other resources: Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America by Russell Moore Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27949815

French Friday - Marriage, Parenting, & Prolonged Adolescence 09/01/2023

580: The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy with Robert P. Jones 08/30/2023

580: The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy with Robert P. Jones Data indicates that white supremacy is growing in popularity, and according to FBI statistics hate crimes have spiked by 35 percent in recent years. Why can’t America shake itself free from white supremacy? The president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute, Robert P. Jones, is back to discuss his new book about the real roots of white supremacy in the 15th century Doctrine of Discovery. Also this week, why are religious Republican primary candidates losing so badly to Donald Trump? Holy Post Pundit and sociologist, Ryan Burge, says despite 30 years of conservative political activism liberals have clearly won the culture war. So why are so many evangelicals still fighting it? And, research finds robot preachers stink, and Phil is confused about professional corn hole players. Holy Post Plus: Getting Schooled - Conspiracy Theories 0:00 - Intro 1:28 - Show Starts 4:27 - Theme Song 4:49 - Sponsor - Sunday’s Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout 6:03 - News of the Good 13:45 - Robotic Preachers 19:31 - GOP Debate 29:09 - Liberals Have Won the Culture War 49:11 - Sponsor - Magic Spoon Go to and use code HOLYPOST to get $5 off 50:48 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at - Interview Intro Robert Jones 54:08 - The 1619 Project 1:04:51 - The Doctrine of Discovery Manifest Destiny 1:13:53 - The modern ramifications 1:31:44 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Quadruple Amputee Given 3% of Survival as Baby Defies Odds, Becomes Pro Sportsman Robot preachers get less respect, fewer donations Liberals have won the Culture War Other resources: The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy: and the Path to a Shared American Future by Robert Jones White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity by Robert Jones Holy Post Episode 475 with Robert Jones Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27887019

579: How the Bible is Used & Abused in Politics with Kaitlyn Schiess 08/23/2023

579: How the Bible is Used & Abused in Politics with Kaitlyn Schiess An unknown country singer with a fake name has skyrocketed to the top of the charts with the song “Rich Men North of Richmond,” and the film “The Sound of Freedom” has become one of the top-grossing movies of the year. These sleeper hits were both fueled by the MAGA media and conservative audiences. What do they say about the movement and the divisions in American culture? Then, Skye talks to Kaitlyn about the launch of her new book, “The Ballot and the Bible,” and the way political movements have used and abused scripture throughout American history. She also explains how George W. Bush and Barack Obama used the Bible very differently during their presidencies, and the surprising reason Obama cited scripture far more often. Also this week—backyard billionaire wrestling, China hires full-time adult children, and a three-year-old with the worst superpower ever. Holy Post Plus: Bonus interview with Kaitlyn Schiess Christian Asks - How do we know we're really maturing in Christ? 0:00 - Intro 2:30 - Show Starts 3:57 - Theme Song 4:19 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at 5:29 - Sponsor - Hiya Health Go to to receive 50% off your first order 6:35 - Listener Emails 11:08 - Zuckerberg vs Musk 16:17 - Full time children in China 30:31 - Rich Men North of Richmond 44:07 - Sound of Freedom 56:23 - Sponsor - Center for Pastor Theologians Visit and use code HOLYPOST to get $10 off your registration fee to the Center for Pastor Theologians Conference 57:35 - Sponsor - AG1 To get your FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase, go to 59:08 - Interview Intro Kaitlyn Schiess 1:02:13 - How the Bible was used during the American Revolution 1:09:29 - Romans 13 1:26:25 - How Bush and Obama used Scripture during their presidencies 1:37:11 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Mark Zuckerberg says ‘it’s time to move on’ from Elon Musk cage fight Young Chinese are getting paid to be ‘full-time children’ as jobs become harder to find Oliver Anthony’s Viral Hit Doesn’t Love Its Neighbors Other resources: The Ballot and the Bible by Kaitlyn Schiess The Bible and Politics Explainer Video Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27824271

578: How America Got Mean & Why We Misread the Bible with John Walton 08/16/2023

578: How America Got Mean & Why We Misread the Bible with John Walton In a new article in The Atlantic, David Brooks asks how America became so mean. He says moral formation used to be a key part of social, religious, and educational structures in the country, but after World War II communal virtues were abandoned for an individualistic and therapeutic model. Simply put, we stopped teaching people how to be good. But what’s missing from Brooks’ solution? A popular preacher says he won’t watch The Chosen because it violates the Second Commandment prohibiting any images of God. Is he right? Then, Dr. John Walton is back to discuss his new book, “Wisdom for Faithful Reading.” He explains why relying on the Holy Spirit isn’t enough when engaging the Bible, and why he believes the American church isn’t facing a crisis of biblical illiteracy but a crisis of biblical interpretation. Also this week—snakes are falling from the sky in Texas. Patreon Bonus: Holy Post Office - Getting Schooled - Inerrancy 101 0:00 - Intro 2:11 - Show Starts 4:32 - Theme Song 4:56 - Sponsor - Caldera Labs Get 20% OFF with our code HOLYPOST at 6:35 - Animal News 18:07 - The Chosen and the 2nd commandment 30:29 - How America Got Mean 53:55 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at 55:04 - Sponsor - Sunday’s Dog Food Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout 56:18 - Interview Intro John Walton 59:10 - Faithfully reading Scripture 1:05:39 - Hermeneutical literacy 1:14:43 - Difference between referencing and affirming 1:31:08 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: A Woman Was Attacked by a Snake That Fell From the Sky. Then a Hawk Dived In Author, preacher Voddie Baucham says he won't watch 'The Chosen,' cites Second Commandment HOW AMERICA GOT MEAN Other resources: Our latest explainer video - Wisdom for Faithful Reading: Principles and Practices for Old Testament Interpretation by John Walton Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27764424

577: How Church Became Theater & the Evangelical Imagination with Karen Swallow Prior 08/09/2023

577: How Church Became Theater & the Evangelical Imagination with Karen Swallow Prior A new survey of worship leaders finds that four megachurches have cornered the worship music market. Should we care who is writing the songs we sing in church, and what gets lost when market forces influence local ministries? A sermon clip has gone viral showing a megachurch pastor scolding people who arrive late or leave early because they are treating the “church like it’s a religious show instead of a welcoming family.” But are people acting like church is a show because that’s the model church leaders have created? We explore the history of how churches came to copy theaters and its impact on the church’s mission and power. Then, Phil talks to Karen Swallow Prior about her new book, “The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis.” She explains how the current crisis in evangelicalism finds its roots in trying to preserve Victorian values rather than biblical ones. Also this week: a celebrity bear is above the law. Patreon Bonus: Holy Post Office - How do you justify the O.T God who commanded Israel to annihilate other nations, with the New Testament themes of loving our enemies? https://youtu.be/IMEMzA8rJZQ 0:00 - Intro 1:49 - Show Starts 4:10 - Theme Song 4:27 - Sponsor - Hiya Health 5:36 - Animal News 14:05 - How we choose worship music in church 34:55 - JD Greear’s recent viral clip 56:03 - Sponsor - AG1 To get your FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase, go to athleticgreens.com/HOLYPOST 57:32 - Sponsor - Blueland To get 15% off your first order, go to Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 58:38 - Interview Intro Karen Swallow Prior 1:03:36 - How Victorian literature influenced Evangelicalism 1:12:20 - Evangelicialism and Empire 1:24:43 - Broadening our imagination 1:36:43 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Hank the Tank: Fugitive burglar bear captured in California Few worship leaders avoid Hillsong, Bethel songs — despite controversies and scandal JD Greear’s sermon clip - Other resources: The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis by Karen Swallow Prior Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27698544

576:Christian A.I., Church Dropouts, & Fixing Men with Christine Emba 08/02/2023

576:Christian A.I., Church Dropouts, & Fixing Men with Christine Emba A new chatbot based on OpenAI claims to have a “biblical worldview” and invites users to ask questions directly to the Apostle Paul. Is this a helpful tool, or another step closer to replacing Christian community with artificial intelligence? Then, a new article in The Atlantic says 40 million Americans have stopped attending church because our culture is addicted to work and no longer values community. But is it all the culture’s fault, or does the church also carry some blame? Washington Post columnist, Christine Emba, is back to discuss her new report about the masculinity crisis. She explains why voices on the far right are engaging men with a message of misogyny and anger, while voices on the left aren’t trying to engage men at all. Is there a better way out of the crisis? Also this week—toxic zombie worms Patreon Bonus: Interview with Amy Peeler on her Barbie movie article 0:00 - Intro 1:43 - Show Starts 2:55 - Theme Song 3:19 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:30 - Animal News 11:32 - Christian AI Chatbot 30:01 - Why Americans stopped going to church 58:14 - Sponsor - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at Faithful Counseling.com/HOLYPOST 59:18 - Sponsor - Caldera Lab Get 20% OFF with our code HOLYPOST at calderalab.com 1:00:57 - Interview Intro 1:06:28 - Responses on the right to the masculinity crisis 1:17:14 - Responses on the left to the masculinity crisis 1:25:25 - Solutions 1:36:51 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Toxin-secreting hammerhead worms are invading the D.C. area. How to stop them. A worm has been revived after 46,000 years in the Siberian permafrost Meet the Christian creators designing chatbots ‘with a biblical worldview’ The Misunderstood Reason Millions of Americans Stopped Going to Church Other resources: Men are lost. Here’s a map out of the wilderness Chistine Emba’s previous appearance on The Holy Post Rethinking Sex: A Provocation by Christine Emba And There Was Light: Abraham Lincoln and the American Struggle by Jon Meacham Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27630519

French Friday: Alt-Right Lost Boys & Oppenheimer 07/28/2023

575: Barbie, Slavery, and the Image of God with Carmen Imes 07/26/2023

575: Barbie, Slavery, and the Image of God with Carmen Imes Hollywood is struggling. Fewer people are going to theaters, but this week saw the opening of two huge movies including Barbie. Can the movie revive Hollywood, or will its social commentary drive more Americans away? Florida’s anti-woke policy is now revising how its public schools teach history by saying enslaved people benefited from the skills they learned. What’s really behind the move to downplay the evil of slavery? Dr. Carmen Imes is back to discuss her new book “Being God’s Image.” She says the Bible has a radical message of human dignity and equality, but Christian communities often unknowingly undermine this ethic. Plus, Elon Musk rebrands Twitter, and scary stories from the beach. Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled - Trinity and Gender 101 0:00 - Intro 1:48 - Show Starts 2:35 - Theme Song 2:56 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at 4:08 - Scary Stories from the Beach 10:57 - Barbenheimer and Conservative outrage over Hollywood 31:39 - Florida trying downplay slavery 45:12 - Twitter changing to X 51:40 - Sponsor - Center for Pastor Theologians Visit and use code HOLYPOST to get $10 off your registration fee to the Center for Pastor Theologians Conference 52:50 - Sponsor - AG1 To get your FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase, go to 54:20 - Interview Intro 59:56 - What it means to be God’s image 1:12:24 - What the Church gets wrong about the Image of God 1:22:00 - How Jesus is and isn’t the Image of God 1:30:43 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: ‘Barbie’ breaks box-office records while crushing right-wing outrage New Florida standards teach students that some Black people benefited from slavery because it taught useful skills Twitter is turning into X. Analysts don’t see the treasure map. Other resources: Being God’s Image by Carmen Imes - Bearing God’s name by Carmen Imes - Carmen Imes’ course on Seminary Now - Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27566382

574: Non-Toxic Masculinity & Lessons from the Black Church with Justin Giboney 07/19/2023

574: Non-Toxic Masculinity & Lessons from the Black Church with Justin Giboney The feminist movement has made significant advances in the last 50 years, but data indicates men are falling behind. Fewer men then women are graduating from college, deaths of despair are highest among men, and the phrase “toxic masculinity” is ubiquitous in the culture. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss Christine Emba’s new article seeking a positive vision for masculinity and why it’s elusive to both the right and left. Then, Kaitlyn talked to Justin Giboney from the And Campaign about the upcoming 2024 election. How can Christians avoid the partisan polarization and culture war extremism? Giboney says we should be like Jesus who took firm positions on issues of his day, but he did not pick sides. And he explains the wisdom of the historic Black church with its commitment to Scripture and justice. Also this week, what is God trying to tell us through a surfing sea otter? Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks - What does it mean to keep the Sabbath? 0:00 - Intro 1:34 - Show Starts 5:22 - Theme Song 5:41 - Sponsor - Magic Spoon Go to magicspoon.com/HOLYPOST and use code HOLYPOST to get $5 off 7:24 - Animal News 15:57 - Masculinity 1:03:03 - Sponsor - No Small Endeavor Podcast Follow No Small Endeavor on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. 1:01:56 - Sponsor - Caldera Lab Get 20% OFF with our code HOLYPOST at calderalab.com 1:04:44 - Interview Intro 1:06:10 - Lessons learned since 2020 1:14:19 - The third way 1:26:28 - The And Campaign 1:41:14 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Surfing sea otter steals surfboards, eludes capture Men are lost. Here’s a map out of the wilderness Chistine Emba’s previous appearance on The Holy Post Other resources: The And Campaign: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27503688

573: The Supreme Court Rules on Affirmative Action, Discrimination, & Free Speech 07/12/2023

572: Christian Nationalist Hospitality & Atheists Get Political with Ryan Burge 07/05/2023

572: Christian Nationalist Hospitality & Atheists Get Political with Ryan Burge Throughout the Bible, God’s people are commanded to show hospitality to strangers. But Christian Nationalists unhappy about the number of immigrants in the U.S. are redefining biblical hospitality and twisting the words of Jesus to justify the deportation of millions. What does their inversion of biblical teachings reveal about the Christian Nationalist agenda? Then, pastor, political science professor, and Holy Post Pundit, Ryan Burge, is back to talk about the surprising data around the political activism of atheists, and why the rise of non-religious Americans is dangerous for democracy and destabilizing for society. Plus, why did the media obsess over the five lives lost on the Titanic submersible and largely ignore the capsized refugee boat that killed more than 500? Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks - How Does Anger Lead Us to Idolatry? 0:00 - Intro 1:17 - Show Starts 2:28 - Theme Song 2:49 - Sinking of the Titan Submersible 10:11 - Christian Hospitality = Mass Deportation? 22:39 - Responding to Common Objections of Our Stance on Immigration Sponsors 39:31 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling 40:39 - Sponsor - Blueland 41:47 - Interview Intro 44:09 - The rise of political activism among atheists 54:11 - Political activism replacing religious impulses 1:02:59 - Religious Freedom 1:19:19 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: A tale of two disasters: Missing Titanic sub captivates the world days after deadly migrant shipwreck The Virtue of Hospitality Other resources: No One Participates in Politics More than Atheists Ryan Burge’s Substack Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27359700

French Friday: Nerdfest - UFO Edition 06/30/2023

571: TV, Authoritarianism, & the Formative Power of Reading with Jessica Hooten Wilson 06/28/2023

571: TV, Authoritarianism, & the Formative Power of Reading with Jessica Hooten Wilson - It’s been one year since the Dobbs decision by the Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade. What have we learned, who has benefitted politically, and has it really reduced the abortion rate? Do television shows that focus on individual heroes and violent solutions to problems cultivate authoritarian beliefs? A new study finds a link between how much TV a person watches and how they vote. A spokesperson from Liberty University says that in order to control the education of their kids, Christians can learn from Stalin, Hitler, and Mao—oh my! Kaitlyn interviews Jessica Hooten Wilson about the power of literature and reading in our spiritual formation, and why it’s particularly challenging for evangelicals. Plus, Christian rummages through the attics of strangers in Germany, and all hail our new canine robot overlord—the Thermonator! Patreon Bonus: Holy Post Office - How to Discern God’s Will 0:00 - Intro 1:41 - Show Starts 4:37 - Theme Song 4:58 - Sponsor - AG1 To get your FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase, go to athleticgreens.com/HOLYPOST 6:27 - Christian is in Luxembourg 10:01 - Flamethrowing robot dogs 17:44 - One year anniversary of Dobbs 31:28 - Relationship between television viewing and Trump support 41:52 - Liberty University spokesperson invokes Stalin, Mao, and Hitler on "education" Sponsors 51:24 - Sponsor - Magic Spoon Go to magicspoon.com/HOLYPOST and use code HOLYPOST to get $5 off 53:01 - Sponsor - Hiya Health Go to hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 54:10 - Interview Intro 58:18 - The importance of non-Biblical literature 1:07:20 - Augustine 1:18:24 - How to read the Bible well 1:32:36 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Great, They’re Putting Flamethrowers on Robot Dogs Now Authoritarianism mediates the relationship between television viewing and Trump support, study finds Liberty University spokesperson invokes Stalin, Mao, and Hitler on "education": "We have to get back to that for conservative values" Other resources: Reading for the Love of God: How to Read as a Spiritual Practice by Jessica Hooten Wilson Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27308400

570: Hello AI Sermons, Goodbye Saddleback, & Happy Juneteenth with Rasool Berry 06/21/2023

570: Hello AI Sermons, Goodbye Saddleback, & Happy Juneteenth with Rasool Berry Christians in Germany are using ChatGPT to create liturgies and even preach sermons. Is the rise of AI different from previous technologies, and how should the church respond? Meanwhile, the South Baptists voted overwhelmingly to prohibit women from being pastors and banned any churches that disagree. How did an issue that even John Piper argued was not essential in 1991 become grounds for excommunication in 2023? Then, a new documentary by author and pastor, Rasool Berry, introduces the history and meaning of Juneteenth. While some MAGA conservatives are condemning the holiday as “woke,” Berry says it actually has deep connections to Christian theology and the church. Plus, Christian is searching for a castle in Belgium. Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled - Penal Substitutionary Atonement 0:00 - Sponsor - World Relief Join the Path and have your donation matched - 0:48 - Intro 2:38 - Show Starts 3:20 - Theme Song 3:41 - Christian is in Belgium! 6:33 - AI Preacher 16:31-News of the Good 27:30 - Women and the SBC Sponsors 51:35 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at Faithful Counseling.com/HOLYPOST 52:44 - Sponsor - Miracle Made Go to TryMiracle.com/ HOLYPOST and use the code HOLYPOST to claim your free 3 piece towel set and save over 40% off 53:51 - Interview Intro Rasool Berry - 55:15 - History of Juneteenth 1:04:38 - The Resistance of White Southerners 1:15:11 - Juneteenth’s connections with Christian Theology 1:25:53 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Can a chatbot preach a good sermon? Hundreds attend church service generated by ChatGPT to find out The Myth That Binds The Southern Baptist Convention The irony of Rick Warren being the main character in the fight for women pastors John Stott’s differences between fundamentalism and evangelicals Other resources: Juneteenth: Faith & Freedom | A Documentary from @ourdailybread Voices Collection The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth by Beth Allison Barr Evangelical Truth: A Personal Plea For Unity And Faithfulness by John Stott Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27217884

569: Shiny Happy Certainty & How Women Led in the Early Church with Nijay Gupta 06/14/2023

569: Shiny Happy Certainty & How Women Led in the Early Church with Nijay Gupta Two events have our attention. First, a new documentary about reality TV’s Dugger family is exposing the ugly side of the Christian fundamentalism, patriarchy, and legalism taught by Bill Gothard’s ministry. And, Christian broadcaster and pillar of the Religious Right, Pat Robertson, died this week at 93. Was there a link between the popularity of Gothard and Robertson for a whole generation of American Christians? Then, New Testament scholar Nijay Gupta talks about his new book “Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church.” And he participates in an unexpected therapy session with Skye about their shared background. Also this week—Kaitlyn is learning German, book bans backfire on the Bible in Utah, and Phil rescues pets from fallen ministry leaders. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks - What does it mean to not use the Lord's name in vain? Bonus Interview with Nijay Gupta - 0:00 - Intro 1:38 - Show Starts 2:27 - Theme Song 2:49 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:01 - Kaitlyn learning German 7:16 - Bible banned in schools 15:00 - Shiny Happy People and Pat Robertson Sponsors 49:15 - Sponsor - Hiya Health Go to hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 50:20 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at Faithful Counseling.com/HOLYPOST 51:30 - Interview Intro 52:58 - Nijay Gupta Nijay Gupta twitter - 1:05:20 Women in the Old Testament 1:11: 21 Women in Rome 1:19:59 Paul and pragmatism 1:27:22 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Utah parent upset by book bans gets Bible pulled from school shelves to expose ‘bad faith process’ - Reading for the Love of God: How to Read as a Spiritual Practice by Jessica Hooten Wilson - The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt - WITH by Skye Jethani - Other resources: Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church by Nijay Gupta The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth by Beth Allison Barr - Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27143568

568: Oh, Boycotts! & What Happened to Humility? with Richard Foster & Brenda Quinn 06/07/2023

568: Oh, Boycotts! & What Happened to Humility? with Richard Foster & Brenda Quinn Bud Light, Target, Kohls, Chick-Fil-A—the list of companies and brands being boycotted by Christians keeps getting longer. Now there are even calls to boycott the hit streaming series about Jesus, “The Chosen.” When are boycotts justified, when are they just performative, and is there any escape from the purity death spiral they create? Then, Skye talks to Pastor Brenda Quinn and author Richard Foster about his new book, “Learning Humility.” When did Christians decide humility was a vice rather than a virtue, and what are the ingredients necessary to cultivate it in our lives and communities? Plus, atheist street pirates! Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled - Prophets 101 0:00 - Sponsor - World Relief Join the Path and have your donation matched - 0.50 - Intro 1:57 - Show Starts 3:26 - Theme Song 3:48 - Atheist Street Pirates 9:30 - Boycott Wars 36:16 - News of the Good 47:01 - Religious Freedom Sponsors 1:00:36 - Sponsor: Miracle Made Go to TryMiracle.com/ HOLYPOST and use the code HOLYPOST to claim your free 3 piece towel set and save over 40% off 1:01:41 Sponsor: Wheaton Grad School Explore over 20 master's, doctoral, and certificate programs at 1:02:43 Interview Intro 1:11:32 - Childlike humility 1:21:19 - Avoiding pride in ministry 1:37:55 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: LA’s Atheist Street Pirates go national in efforts to remove illegal religious signs ‘The Chosen’ Defends Pride Flag Spotted On Set: ‘Let The Show Speak For Itself’ Jeremy Boreing’s Critique of His Own Website Religious freedom was meant to protect not bludgeon. What happened? Other resources: Learning Humility: A Year of Searching for a Vanishing Virtue by Richard Foster Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/27067242

567: Christian Nationalism Roundup & the Doctrine of Hell 05/31/2023

567: Christian Nationalism Roundup & the Doctrine of Hell Phil’s file of Christian Nationalism stories has gotten full, so we’re covering a number of them this week. We explore the beliefs of early Christian Nationalists from the 1920s, how modern Christian Nationalism can’t shake its racist roots, and why it’s gaining popularity with some followers of Reformed theology. Skye explains what Christian Nationalism shares in common with the Prosperity Gospel, and Kaitlyn dismantles Christian Nationalists who say their views are rooted in God’s design in nature. Then, we share one of our most popular Holy Post bonus features with everyone where Christian Taylor asks Skye about what the Bible really says, and does not say, about hell. Plus, another Christian college professor got Tisby’d. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks - Why isn't God's proper name, Yahweh, in our English Bibles? 0:00 - Intro 1:31 - Show Starts 4:14 - Theme Song 4:36 - Julie Moore fired by Taylor University 17:59 - Christian Nationalism’s Racist Roots 27:16 - New Review of Stephen Wolfe’s book on Christian Nationalism 36:20 - A review of Mere Christiandom 45:11 - Christian Nationalism Fascism Sponsors 56:35 - Sponsor: Blueland To get 15% off your first order, go to Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 57:43 - Sponsor: Sundays Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 58:54 - Christian Asks Intro 59:53 - What is Hell? 1:16:37 - Check out Holy Post Plus - 1:17:08 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Taylor professor Julie Moore cited Jemar Tisby on her syllabus. Then she lost her job. Old-school Christian nationalism’s avatar of racism, antisemitism and conspiracies Beware the 'Christian Prince' A Review of Mere Christendom by Doug Wilson Christian Nationalism Talks Religion, But Walks Fascism Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/26998254

French Friday: Update from Ukraine & The Future Of Affirmative Action 05/26/2023

566: Tim Keller, American Poverty, & the Legacy of Rich Mullins with James Bryan Smith 05/24/2023

566: Tim Keller, American Poverty, & the Legacy of Rich Mullins with James Bryan Smith Influential pastor, author, and apologist, Tim Keller, passed away last week. We reflect on Keller’s ministry and wonder who is filling the shoes of the Christian giants we’ve lost. A new book about poverty says that the U.S. spends more on welfare than any other country except France, but the majority goes to help the wealthy and middle-class rather than the poor. Why aren’t we doing more to end poverty, and is our view of the Bible to blame? Then, it’s been 25 years since Rich Mullins died. Skye talks to Mullins’ friend James Bryan Smith about the songwriter’s inspiring life and legacy. Plus, Matthew Soerens shares some good news from the Southern border. Patreon Bonus: Holy Post Office - What do you do when the perfect church doesn’t exist? When should you leave and when should you stay despite differences? 0:00 - Sponsor - World Relief Join the Path and have your donation matched - 0:49 - Intro 3:08 - Show Starts 3:51 - Theme Song 4:12 - Remembering Tim Keller 25:51 - News of the Good 36:01- American Poverty Sponsors 1:03:06 - Sponsor: Wheaton Grad School Explore over 20 master's, doctoral, and certificate programs at 1:04:11 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at 1:05:17 - Interview Intro - James Bryan Smith 1:07:09 - How Rich and Bryan became friends 1:13:07 - Rich’s uniqueness and authenticity 1:25:53 - Rich’s reliance on God 1:35:20 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Tim Keller Practiced the Grace He Preached Title 42 has ended. Here’s what it did, and how US immigration policy is changing Support World Relief How America Manufactures Poverty Other resources: Rich Mullins (25th Anniversary Edition): An Arrow Pointing to Heaven by James Bryan Smith Holy Post website: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/26933868

565: The Vegan Bible, Loveless Christianity, & Spiritual Narcissism with Rainn Wilson 05/17/2023

565: The Vegan Bible, Loveless Christianity, & Spiritual Narcissism with Rainn Wilson Ethicist, David Gushee, says we are seeing the emergence of a new kind of loveless Christianity. But those who practice it say their anger, culture warring, and pursuit of power are actually how they’re loving their neighbors. Then, Skye talks to actor Rainn Wilson, best known as Dwight Schrute from “The Office,” about religious pluralism, spiritual narcissism, why Hollywood misrepresents Christians, and how he became a follower of the Baha’i faith. Wilson’s new book is “Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution.” Also this week—A.I. has rewritten Genesis to be vegan-friendly, and does God really hate yoga pants? Patreon Bonus: Our full discussion on yoga pants 0.00 - Intro 2:33 - Theme Song 2:55 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at Faithful Counseling.com/HOLYPOST 4:03 - A Vegan Bible 15:23 - Yoga Pants & Christian Modesty 25:37 - Christianity without Love Sponsors 40:55 - Sponsor Miracle Made Go to TryMiracle.com/ HOLYPOST and use the code HOLYPOST to claim your free 3 piece towel set and save over 40% off 42:00 - Sponsor Sundays Dog Food Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 43:14 - Interview Intro 48:26 - Rainn’s journey to becoming Baha’i 53:30 - Why people are shifting away from religion 1:02:43 - Avoiding “self-help” spirituality 1:08:35 - How can people of different faiths work together 1:22:55 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: PETA Rewrites the Bible With ChatGPT: ‘A Loving God Would Never Endorse Exploitation’ ‘Women’s leggings are too revealing’: Men of the Christian right deem yoga pants too scandalous to wear outside Christianity without love Other resources: Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution by Rainn Wilson The Divine Commodity: Discovering a Faith Beyond Consumer Christianity by Skye Jethani Holy Post website: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/26862417

564: How Rapture Theology Shaped America (Part 2) 05/10/2023

564: How Rapture Theology Shaped America (Part 2) How did a theological system that rejected Christian participation in politics eventually give birth to the Religious Right? Phil talks to historian Daniel Hummel about the spread of rapture theology in the 20th century, why it spawned so many conspiracies, the legacy of the Left Behind books, and why rapture theology remains so popular despite being rejected by nearly every evangelical seminary. Also this week, why did controversial author, Joshua Butler, resign from his church? The embrace of Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump by the Religious Right is proof that the movement is now entirely post-Christian. And reflections on the coronation of King Charles III. Patreon Bonus: Bonus Interview with Daniel Hummel Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled: Feminism 101 0:00 - Sponsor - World Relief Join the Path and have your donation matched - 0.50 - Intro 3:15 - Theme Song 3:36 - Sponsor: Blueland To get 15% off your first order, go to Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 4:44 - Coronation of King Charles III 14:24 - News of the Good 17:42 - Resignation of Josh Butler 22:26 - The Post Christian Right 31:29 - The End of the Values Voter Wing of the GOP Sponsors 49:12 - Sponsor: Hiya Health Go to hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 50:19 - Sponsor Miracle Made Go to TryMiracle.com/ HOLYPOST and use the code HOLYPOST to claim your free 3 piece towel set and save over 40% off 51:25 - Interview Intro Daniel Hummel - 54:03 - The Scofield Bible and Fundamentalism Christianity 1:04:19 - Late Great Planet Earth 1:11:45 - Tim LaHaye and the Left Behind Series 1:20:39 - The Academic Decline of Premillennialism Dispensationalism 1:30:59 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Josh Butler Resigns as Pastor Following TGC Article Backlash More about World Relief Tucker Carlson’s Dark and Malign Influence Over the Christian Right Trump killed the ‘values voter’ wing of the GOP. It isn’t coming back in 2024 Other resources: The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation by Daniel Hummel Holy Post website: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/26794095

563: How Rapture Theology Shaped America (Part 1) 05/03/2023

563: How Rapture Theology Shaped America (Part 1) Many Christians in America simply assume that Jesus could return at any moment, that believers will be raptured in the twinkling of an eye, that the state of Israel has a special role in the End Times, and that the church should just save souls and stay out of politics. In Part 1 of an interview about this new book, historian Daniel G. Hummel explains to Phil how this rapture theology isn’t rooted in church history, but was invented by a British layman less than 200 years ago. And why it was embraced by American pastors during the Civil War who wanted to avoid talking about slavery, race, and reconstruction. Also this week—paganism is on the rise. Who is really killing public schools? And women will win the battle of the sexes in 4.6 million years. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks - What Happens to Non-Christians When They Die? Defined Terms to Know for This Week’s Interview Millennium - The thousand year reign of Christ described in Revelation 20:1-8. There are basically three understandings of this: Premillennialism - (Think Left Behind book series) Christians will be raptured, leaving behind everyone else. There will be a tribulation period with the rise of the Antichrist, mark of the beast, war, famine, earthquakes, etc. before Christ eventually comes and rules on earth for 1,000 years during which peace will reign. After one final rebellion, God will crush evil forever, offer a final judgment, and establish heaven and hell for eternity. Postmillennialism - The millennium will come from the spiritual and moral influence of the Church through preaching and teaching. Conversions will increase and evil will diminish. In other words, Christians will make the world a better and better place and after that, Christ will come back, the dead will be resurrected, and there will be a final judgment Amillennialism - The 1000 year period mentioned in Revelation does not refer to a specific period of time, but to the heavenly reign of Christ. Rev. 20 means the return of Christ will occur at the end of history. Sees Revelation as more symbolic than literal. Eschatology - The study of the end times - how history will end and Christ will come back to establish his eternal kingdom Ecclesiology - the study of the church - its mission and structure as well as its place in God’s overall plan for the world 0:00 - Intro 3:11 - Theme Song 3:33 - Sponsor: Hiya Health Go to hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 4:41 - The end of men? 13:48 - Dawn of the new pagans 32:52 - Public vs Private vs Homeschool Debate Sponsors 53:50 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at Faithful Counseling.com/HOLYPOST 54:55 - Sponsor: World Relief Join the Path and have your donation matched - 55:46 - Interview Intro Daniel Hummel - 1:03:50 - Who is John Darby? 1:14:21- Dispensationalism advanced by the Civil War and Dwight Moody 1:35:21 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Scientists divided over what will happen to men as Y chromosome is disappearing Dawn of the new pagans: ‘Everybody’s welcome – as long as you keep your clothes on!’ How school choice drives America’s people of faith apart Other resources: The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation by Daniel Hummel Holy Post website: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. /episode/index/show/thephilvischerpodcast/id/26726979

French Friday: How to Thrive in a Post-Christian Culture 04/28/2023

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