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Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.
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Episode 492: After School Satan Clubs, MLK Day, & Disturbing Bible Stories with Esau McCaulley & David T. Lamb
01/19/2022
Episode 492: After School Satan Clubs, MLK Day, & Disturbing Bible Stories with Esau McCaulley & David T. Lamb
To commemorate MLK Day, Phil asks Esau McCaulley if we’re making progress on race or if we’ve gone backwards in the last few years. His answer might surprise you. Skye then interviews Old Testament professor, David T. Lamb, about the updated version of his book, “God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?” Lamb argues that if read correctly, we’d discover the Old Testament is surprisingly progressive rather than barbaric. Also this week, controversy erupts as after school Satan clubs sponsored by The Satanic Temple pop up in elementary schools with Good News clubs. And, a country music star withdraws his support from a Christian school that teaches racism is a reality. Plus, scientists discover sea slugs have an interesting party trick. News Segment0:00 - Start 2:41 - News of the Butt 14:25 - After School Satan Club 22:19 - John Rich angry about school materials discussing racism Interview with Esau McCaulley Website: “Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope” - 35:05 - Interview Start 36:14 - Reflecting on the last 18 months 41:51 - Where the white evangelical church is now 51:04 - Being part of the solution Sponsor 1:00:16 - Faithful Counseling Thanks to Faithful Counseling for sponsoring this episode: Announcement 1:01:29 - Livestream with Josh Packard: Interview with David T. Lamb Website: “God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?” (Expanded Edition) - 1:02:52 - Intro/Interview start 1:04:37 - Understanding the Old Testament as progressive 1:15:49 - The issue of collective justice BONUS INTERVIEW (Polygamy in the Old Testament): The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 491: American Democracy & American Inerrancy with Michael F. Bird
01/12/2022
Episode 491: American Democracy & American Inerrancy with Michael F. Bird
Last week, the country commemorated the one-year anniversary of the January 6th attack on the Capitol. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn examine what’s changed, and what hasn’t, since the attack and what impact it’s had on both Christians and our culture. They also respond to Samuel Perry’s article about the way Christian Nationalism threatens democracy. Then, Skye talks to Australian theologian Michael Bird about the doctrine of biblical inerrancy. While Christians throughout the world affirm the Bible’s inerrancy, Bird says American Evangelicals uniquely see the doctrine as “the one ring to rule them all.” He documents many cases where inerrancy isn’t used to defend the Bible, but a particular interpretation of the Bible. Also this week—goldfish chauffeurs and the Japanese invent a finger-nibbling robot to “free all humanity.” News Segment 0:00 - Intro 3:05 - Scientists teach goldfish how to drive 9:13 - Finger-nibbling robots 12:48 - Anniversary of January 6th Capitol attacks Interview with Michael F. Bird “Saving Inerrancy from the Americans?” article - “Seven Things I Wish People Knew About the Bible” book - 47:40 - Intro/Interview Start 50:44 - Inerrancy vs. infallibility 57:21 - American evangelicalism and inerrancy 1:07:46 - Global church and inerrancy 1:11:26 - Authorities of scripture, interpretation, and historic church doctrine 1:20:42 - Perspectives from the global church on other issues 1:27:21 - Interview End The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 490: Lessons from the Global Church with Christine Caine
01/05/2022
Episode 490: Lessons from the Global Church with Christine Caine
Phil experienced a Twitter typhoon last week when he suggested “love your country” is not a Biblical command. The Holy Post crew unpacks the reactions and asks what separates godly and ungodly patriotism. Then, Skye talks to Christine Caine, founder of The A21 Campaign, about her experience of American evangelicalism as an Australian Pentecostal. With decades of experience in ministry around the world, and working against human trafficking in 14 countries, Caine says she was shocked by what she found in the American church, and advocates for more listening and cooperation with Christians in other traditions and cultures. Also this week, a Japanese professor invents a TV you can taste, and a town in the UK is terrorized by a bloodthirsty squirrel. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro and updates 4:29 - Squirrel rampage 8:36 - Lickable TV 15:16 - ERLC clarification 17:38 - Critiquing our own team and purpose of the Holy Post 27:59 - Phil’s Twitter discussions on love of country 46:10 Sponsors Thanks to the sponsors of this week’s episode: Faithful Counseling: Abide: Interview with Christine Caine:A21 organization: 48:36 - Interview Start 49:49 - Experience in Pentecostal church 55:28 - Church celebrity culture 1:05:02 - Healthy skepticism 1:09:12 - Cross-tradition interaction & the global church 1:25:17 - Ending
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French Friday: Jeremiads & Drones
12/31/2021
French Friday: Jeremiads & Drones
In a recent editorial, Kevin DeYoung took aim at Christian commentators, including David French, for criticizing the social and political hypocrisies within white evangelicalism. DeYoung says these necessary corrections are better left to pastors rather than “professional writers, academics, and full-time commentators.” David and Skye respond to DeYoung’s editorial by explaining the good, and bad, reasons so few pastors are speaking prophetically in America today. Then, they turn their attention to the remarkable NY Times report about the U.S. military underreporting civilian casualties from drone attacks in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. French explains why legally the terrorists, not the U.S. military, carry responsibility for these deaths, which leads to a wider discussion about the ethics of war in general, the way drones may change Americans’ view of war in the future, and whether the invasion of Iraq was justifiable to begin with. 0:00 - Intro 2:40 - Kevin DeYoung editorial on Christian commentators 29:54 - Drone attacks, civilian casualties, and ethics of war
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Episode 489: The Evangelical Empire Strikes Back & Barna Briefs with David Kinnaman
12/29/2021
Episode 489: The Evangelical Empire Strikes Back & Barna Briefs with David Kinnaman
After the mess that was 2020, we had such high hopes for 2021. Were our expectations met? Phil and Skye look back on the year when the evangelical empire dug in its heels. Those opposed to #MeToo and Black Lives Matter responded by labeling empathy a sin. Voices advocating for women and people of color within the SBC left the denomination. The Salvation Army reversed course on racial sensitivity, and female scholars faced a backlash for exposing Christian nationalism and patriarchy. Will 2022 be any different, or will the sorting of the entire culture into Red and Blue tribes continue? And how wide will the rift between classical and cultural evangelicals get? Then, the president of Barna Group, David Kinnaman, joins Skye to launch a new reoccurring segment—Barna Briefs. Kinnaman reveals brand new data about the state of the church and how the pandemic has revealed wide discontent among churchgoers with their congregations. He also says popular church structures are clearly insufficient for forming mature disciples and new church models are desperately needed. Kinnaman also reveals an alarming number of pastors are ready to leave ministry. Is there a silver lining to all of the troubling data? News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 4:34 - Looking back and looking ahead 9:10 - Stories from 2021: The “sin of empathy” conversation Holy Post episode 472 - 12:28 - Was 2021 “The Empire Strikes Back”? 15:47 - Russell Moore and the ERLC Painting Phil references - 26:02 - Salvation Army and “wokeness” 32:18 - Books from this year “Jesus and John Wayne” by Kristin Kobes Du Mez - “The Making of Biblical Womanhood” by Beth Allison Barr - 42:01 - The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill podcast “Church Refugees” by Josh Packard - “A Church Called Tov ” by Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer - 53:06 - Looking toward 2022 Movie Phil references - “Don’t Look Up” (2021) Barna Brief with David Kinnaman: Free download for Holy Post listeners: 1:02:37 - Interview Start 1:04:12 - Project intro: State of the Church 1:05:31 - Digital church and effects of the pandemic 1:17:06 - Growing crisis among pastors 1:22:53 - Mental and emotional impact of pandemic The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 488: How Trump Stole Christmas & Paul and Gender with Cynthia Long Westfall
12/22/2021
Episode 488: How Trump Stole Christmas & Paul and Gender with Cynthia Long Westfall
Last Sunday, the former president attended an advent service at First Baptist Church in Dallas. Some have called what unfolded an example of evangelicalism’s syncretism with conservative politics. Why aren’t more people bothered by it? Then, Don Jr. said if Christians want to take back America they need to ignore Jesus’ commands like “Turn the other cheek.” Kaitlyn says he’s right. Skye responds to listener feedback to his interview about Gen Z, and Phil reads listener comments about abortion. Then, Kaitlyn speaks with New Testament professor Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall about Paul and gender. Dr. Westfall says we need to apply the same interpretive framework to what the Bible says about men as we do for women. Based on the weight of biblical evidence, she argues that the burden of proof isn’t on those who say women should lead and teach, but on those who say they shouldn’t. Plus, why are do so many Christmas cards this year fear assault weapons? One historian says you can blame the YMCA. PATREON BONUS: (This bonus segment is available to the public - no Patreon membership required. Click through to listen or watch!) News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:43 - Mailbag: Gen Z 14:18 - Mailbag: Abortion 23:55 “How Trump Stole Christmas” 33:29 - Donald Trump Jr. on turning the other cheek 41:27 - Guns on Christmas cards 53:18 -Sponsor This episode is sponsored by FaithfulCounseling: faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Cynthia Long Westfall “Discovering Biblical Equality: Biblical, Theological, Cultural, and Practical Perspectives” - https://amzn.to/3egJok0 54:41 - Interview Start 56:46 - About the book - purpose and new edition 56:07 - Cynthia Long Westfall background 1:07:05 - Galatians 3:28 and differences between genders 1:19:53 - Advice for women in ministry Other resources mentioned: “Paul and Gender: Reclaiming the Apostle’s Vision for Men and Women in Christ” - The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 487: Why Gen Z is “Unbundling” Faith with Josh Packard
12/15/2021
Episode 487: Why Gen Z is “Unbundling” Faith with Josh Packard
Everyone seems to be talking about “deconstructing” faith, but researcher Josh Packard says it’s better to describe young people as “unbundling” faith. He joins Skye for a conversation about Springtide Research Institute’s new report on the State of Religion and Young People, and why Gen Z has such a negative perception of the church and such an inflated view of themselves. Also this week, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in a case that could overturn Roe v. Wade. With some pro-life activists ecstatic, and pro-choice activists apoplectic, the Holy Post crew discusses what a post-Roe country could look like, how the pro-life movement could evolve, and what lessons we can learn from the era of Prohibition. Plus, the word “sorcery” was the fastest-growing search term on Bible Gateway in 2021. Should it have been “asininity”? News Segment 0:00 - Intro 3:26 - Fastest-growing search term on Bible Gateway 14:23 - Supreme Court and Roe v. Wade 48:31 - Sponsors This episode is sponsored by Abide: Interview with Josh Packard Springtide Research Institute report: 49:36 - Intro 51:12 - Major findings from report 55:06 - Implications of unbundling 1:05:55 - Values gap 1:18:41 - Impact of religious communities on flourishing Other resources:
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Episode 486: The Gospel and Fake News with Love Thy Neighborhood
12/08/2021
Episode 486: The Gospel and Fake News with Love Thy Neighborhood
A recent survey found that 49 percent of pastors reported conspiracy theories were spreading within their congregations. This is especially prevalent within evangelical communities. Although evangelicals are supposed to be known as people of the “good news”—which is what the word “evangelical” literally means—in many places they’ve become the largest consumers and spreaders of “fake news.” In this special episode co-produced with the Love Thy Neighborhood podcast, Skye Jethani and Jesse Eubanks take a closer look at the origins and impact of fake news. How we should define what’s “fake”, why it’s become such a problem, and what can Christians do about it. Love Thy Neighborhood podcast: https://lovethyneighborhood.org/ltnpodcast/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com 0:00 - Intro 2:04 - War of the Worlds 7:40 - What is fake news? https://www.newsguardtech.com/special-reports/special-report-2020-engagement-analysis/ https://lifewayresearch.com/2021/01/26/half-of-u-s-protestant-pastors-hear-conspiracy-theories-in-their-churches/ https://guides.lib.umich.edu/fakenews 10:25 - Fake news in the church https://www.businessinsider.com/pastors-quit-after-qanon-radicalize-congregation-2021-3 12:01 - Follow the money https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/partisan-polarization-is-the-primary-psychological-motivation-behind-political-fake-news-sharing-on-twitter/3F7D2098CD87AE5501F7AD4A7FA83602 23:17 - Episode sponsors With God Daily: http://withgoddaily.com The Movie Proposal: https://www.themovieproposal.com 25:35 - Technology Jason Thacker: https://jasonthacker.com https://news.mit.edu/2018/study-twitter-false-news-travels-faster-true-stories-0308 31:03 - Reclaiming truth https://www.allsides.com https://www.businessinsider.com/christians-are-often-victims-of-conspiracy-theories-health-falsehoods-2021-4
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Episode 485: The Biblical Case for Redemptive Privilege with Dominique DuBois Gilliard
12/01/2021
Episode 485: The Biblical Case for Redemptive Privilege with Dominique DuBois Gilliard
Today, privilege has become a dirty word that is automatically associated with sinfulness, but Dominique Gilliard, author of “Subversive Witness: Scripture’s Call to Leverage Privilege,” says it doesn’t have to be. He explores the many biblical characters who used their privilege redemptively rather than selfishly, and challenges us to rethink our assumptions about who is really privileged in our society. Also this week, a new study reveals how our preferred news source shapes our political and cultural beliefs—especially for those on the more conservative end of the spectrum. As the Supreme Court hears arguments about Mississippi’s new abortion law, Tish Harrison Warren says we need to rethink our definition of feminism to include women who are pro-life. Plus, Phil goes to an indoor waterpark, and the Japanese have an innovative new energy source. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro/Thanksgiving highlights 12:41 - News of the Butt 20:50 - PRRI media study 36:29 - Feminism and pro-life 50:11 - MyPillow ads 52:17 - Holy Post merch Interview with Dominique DuBois Gilliard: “Subversive Witness: Scripture’s Call to Leverage Privilege” - 53:32 - Introduction 57:31 - Defining privilege 1:04:45 - How stories in Scripture help us 1:08:20 - Accountability in leveraging privilege 1:21:08 - Interpreting the rich young ruler 1:26:49 - Fruit in ongoing repentance Other resources mentioned: “Rethinking Incarceration: Advocating for Justice That Restores” - The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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French Friday - "Nerdfest 2021"
11/26/2021
French Friday - "Nerdfest 2021"
French Friday leaves the world of politics and theology behind to join David French and fellow nerd Skye Jethani for a journey through the pop-culture countryside of geekdom in a special episode. They begin with a breakdown of Dune, the film adaptation of Frank Herbert’s classic sci-fi novel. Was it too faithful to the book? The dorky duo then debate why the Disney-era Star Wars sequel trilogy was a failure, but The Mandalorian series works brilliantly. They discuss the best movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and whether the future of the MCU is doomed. Then things heat up when French and Jethani cross streams as French argues that DC’s recent movies—including Justice League—are masterpieces, and Jethani disagrees. Which nerd will triumph? Listen to find out. PATREON BONUS: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58871092 0:00 Intro 1:21 Dune 12:54 Star Wars 28:32 Marvel 43:17 DC
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Episode 484: Why to Leave Evangelicalism & How to Stay with Dan Stringer
11/24/2021
Episode 484: Why to Leave Evangelicalism & How to Stay with Dan Stringer
In case you haven’t noticed, the evangelical movement in America is a mess. Some say we should let it all burn down. Others fiercely defend the historic and theological richness of the tradition. Dan Stringer says there’s a third option that is honest about evangelicalism’s failures, while also valuing its strengths. Kaitlyn interviews Stringer about his new book “Struggling with Evangelicalism: Why I Want to Leave and What It Takes to Stay.” Also this week, former Trump national security advisor Michael Flynn says the U.S. should only allow one religion. Skye explains why the Pilgrims did not come to America for religious freedom, and Christian explores healthy and toxic patriotism. Then, what should we conclude from the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict? Plus, orcas are attacking yachts and Phil celebrates World Toilet Day. Thanks to the Grow Center for sponsoring this episode. More information about The Ray Bakke Certificate of Biblical and Entrepreneurial Thinking is available here: News Segment 0:00 - Intro 04:07 - World Toilet Day12:28 Animal News: Orcas attacking yachts 18:43 - Michael Flynn says U.S. should mandate one religion 42:45 - Kyle Rittenhouse verdict Interview w/ Dan Stringer “Struggling with Evangelicalism: Why I Want to Leave and What It Takes to Stay” - 54:43 - Interview Start & Guest Background 59:55 - Shifting perspective on evangelicalism 01:04:13 - Importance of remembering our history/tradition 01:12:46 - Communal repentance 01:16:46 - Learning from each other 01:22:37 - Is this the moment for renewal? 01:27:06 - What next? Responding after pain The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Holy Post Episode 483: Faith, Science, and the Covid Vaccines with Francis Collins
11/17/2021
Holy Post Episode 483: Faith, Science, and the Covid Vaccines with Francis Collins
Are faith and science irreconcilable belief systems? Not according to Dr. Francis Collins, the Director of the National Institutes of Health and founder of BioLogos. He talks with Phil about his journey from atheism to faith, his role in overseeing the country’s response to Covid-19, and why America’s culture war is literally killing people. Collins also explains why the Covid vaccines are safe and should be embraced by Christians as an answer to prayer. Then, The Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood’s attack on a small Texas church backfires, leading to a conversation about God and gendered language. The editor of World Magazine leaves in protest as yet another evangelical institution takes a sharp turn to the right. Are we witnessing the final fury of a dying religious right? Plus, Phil was unknowingly on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert. And, a meaningless archeological discovery in Michigan. News Segment: November livestream details [3:41] Archaeological discovery in Michigan [5:21] Phil on the Late Show [12:24] Beth Allison Barr and our language for God [14:04] “The Making of Biblical Womanhood” - https://amzn.to/3oSOVm3 Marvin Olasky and the struggle between evangelicals and fundamentalists [28:52] Interview with Francis Collins: Interview Start [49:28] “Language of God” book [52:20] Response to objections after NIH nomination [55:19] Science and faith conflicts [57:20] COVID-19 responses and vaccines [1:00:05] Legacy as a visible scientist of faith [1:07:23] Culture wars and the pandemic [1:15:21] Other resources mentioned: Biologos: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 482: Truth, Lies, and Spiritual Imagination with John Mark Comer
11/10/2021
Episode 482: Truth, Lies, and Spiritual Imagination with John Mark Comer
Why do we expect the Christian life to be easy when the Bible clearly says it will be a struggle? Starting with the wrong expectation, says John Mark Comer, makes us spiritually neurotic and causes more suffering than necessary. He talks with Skye about his new book, “Live No Lies,” why spiritual warfare isn’t what you’ve been taught, why information alone doesn’t change us, and what it means to really be people committed to the truth. Also this week, artificial intelligence is now offering very questionable ethical advice. Phil wonders what it means for self-driving cars. Two seminaries are suing the government over the Covid vaccine mandate, but is it really a question of religious liberty? New data says white evangelicals are those most likely to use violence to defend America, and those most likely to reject America’s founding ideal of pluralism. Does anyone else see a contradiction? Plus, skull-crushing wombat bums. News Segment: Deadly wombat butts [5:14] Ethical AI trained on Reddit [13:57] “Drive Recklessly” short film - Two evangelical seminaries sue to block vaccine mandates [27:32] Study: Most white evangelicals don’t want to live in a religiously diverse country [38:06] Holy Post Updates [48:40] Interview with John Mark Comer:“Live No Lies: Recognize and Resist the Three Enemies That Sabotage Your Peace”- PATREON BONUS: Interview Start [51:05] Spiritual warfare and the spirituality of struggle [53:14] Truth and lies; desert fathers and mothers [1:00:09] Information alone vs. embodied spiritual formation [1:05:41] Mental maps and spiritual imagination [1:13:36] Conservative and progressive fundamentalism [1:24:14] Other books mentioned: “Water from a Deep Well” by Gerald L. Sittser - “The Road Less Traveled” by M. Scott Peck - “Where the Light Fell” by Philip Yancey - The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 481: Admitting the Skeletons in Christianity’s Closet with John Dickson
11/03/2021
Episode 481: Admitting the Skeletons in Christianity’s Closet with John Dickson
What is Christianity’s contribution to history and has it been positive or negative? John Dickson says Christians should obey Jesus’ command to remove the plank from our own eye and admit the many ugly truths about church history. Only then will we be able to see clearly the parts of church history that conform to the way of Jesus. Skye talks to Dickson about his new book, “Bullies & Saints: An Honest Look at the Good and Evil of Christian History.” Also this week, a conspiracy filled speech by the actor who played Jesus in “The Passion of the Christ” has gone viral. Why are evangelicals more susceptible than others to such nonsense? And was Bonhoeffer right that stupidity is more dangerous than malice? Plus, why does the Bible forbid witchcraft? (Hint: it has nothing to do with patriarchy.) And, PETA is trying to change our language to protect the feelings of cows and chickens News Segment: Celebrating Halloween? [3:32] PETA urges MLB to change ‘bullpen’ term [8:10 ] ‘Jewitches’ embracing both Judaism and witchcraft [12:20] Jim Caviezel quoting Bravehart at a QAnon conference [19:25] Interview with John Dickson: Bullies and Saints: An Honest Look at the Good and Evil of Christian History - Centre for Public Christianity - Interview Start [48:06] Why church history? [49:31] Tribalism and the plank in our own eye [53:05] How do we explain Christians doing terrible things throughout history? [58:27] How to talk with people about church history [1:13:00] Is Christianity really still needed? [1:18:36] The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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FRENCH FRIDAY: The Great American Divorce
10/29/2021
FRENCH FRIDAY: The Great American Divorce
Recent polling has found that a majority of Trump voters (52%) and a significant number of Biden voters (41%) support breaking up the country. Has our animosity and disgust for each other made reconciliation impossible? Are we heading toward a national divorce? Skye Jethani and David French discuss his recent articles about the rise of malice in our political divisions and within the church. Why have so many evangelicals embraced anger as a virtue, and how has our pragmatic theology contributed to the problem? Then, they debate the role of social media in the breakdown of national unity and the recent leak of the “Facebook Papers.” French is reluctant to blame social media companies for what is ultimately a problem with human hearts, while Skye says the tech giants must take more responsibility for the damage their platforms are inflicting. Malice and anger in political division [00:28] Malice and anger in the church [20:34 ]Social media and the “Facebook Papers” [38:11]
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Episode 480: The Myth of the Religious Right with Randall Balmer
10/27/2021
Episode 480: The Myth of the Religious Right with Randall Balmer
Conservative evangelicals organized into a political movement in the 1970s in response to the Supreme Court’s decision to legalize abortion. Or did they? Historian Randall Balmer argues this origin story for the Religious Right is a myth. He talks to Skye about the real origins of the movement and how it explains the current state of white evangelicalism. Also this week, we unpack Peter Wehner’s article in The Atlantic about the breaking apart of evangelicalism. Is the church a victim of media manipulation, or is evangelicalism reaping its own rotten fruit? Plus, lawsuits between believers, training Christians for hand-to-hand combat in vehicles, and Phil’s massive magical mushroom. News Segment: Phil’s mushroom [2:47] Christians training in hand-to-hand combat [8:39] Mike Stone suing Russell Moore [13:14] “The Evangelical Church is Breaking Apart” [28:01] Interview with Randall Balmer: PATREON BONUS: “Bad Faith: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right” - Interview Start [52:40] Context for approaching this study [54:23] What is the myth? [59:59] Effects of dispensational premillennialism on social engagement [1:11:37] Emergence of Religious Right in the North/Midwest [1:19:35] Why do these origins matter? [1:25:22] The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 479: Everything Doesn’t Happen For a Reason with Kate Bowler
10/20/2021
Episode 479: Everything Doesn’t Happen For a Reason with Kate Bowler
The prosperity gospel isn’t just about health and wealth. Historian Kate Bowler says pragmatic values, simple solutions, and the endless quest for self-improvement, have infected most of the church in subtle ways. Kaitlyn Schiess talks to Dr. Bowler about her own battle with cancer, and how it’s helped her move beyond cliches like “Everything happens for a reason,” to embrace the larger mystery of faith. Also this week, have elite evangelicals sold out to the mainstream media, or have populist evangelicals sold out to Trump voters? Everyone seems to be talking about the divide within evangelicalism, but is it really something new? The Holy Post crew looks at the arguments and how we could be seeing the latest version of a very old divide. Plus, Phil is fascinated by left-handed ghost squirrels. News Segment: Traveling with moss [1:38] Animal Facts [5:34] The divide within evangelicalism [14:40] Interview with Kate Bowler: Interview Start [52:19] “Everything Happens for a Reason: And Other Lies I’ve Loved” - “No Cure for Being Human: (And Other Truths I Need to Hear)” - Kate’s Story [55:57] “Blessed - A History of the American Prosperity Gospel” - “ No Cure for Being Human” Title [1:00:14] Certainty vs. faith[1:05:31] American pragmatism and “useful pain” [1:07:32] Understanding fear and living after crisis [1:11:24] Response and engagement with these books [1:18:57] The miracle of moments [1:23:35] The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 478: Foreign Policy, Adoption, & Race with Esau McCaulley & Jamie Ivey
10/13/2021
Episode 478: Foreign Policy, Adoption, & Race with Esau McCaulley & Jamie Ivey
This week is a special a double feature! First, Phil talks to Esau McCaulley about his recent NY Times editorial about President Biden’s vengeance against terrorists in Afghanistan. McCaulley asks why so few Christian politicians seem to have Christian instincts, and what role should forgiveness have in American foreign policy. Then, Skye interviews author and podcaster Jamie Ivey about her experience as a white mom raising black kids, how it’s changed her understanding of race, and why she no longer believes love can solve every problem. Also this week—new polling indicates a frightening number of people on both the right and left want to disunite the country. Are we on a path toward civil war, and is social media to blame? News Segment Trump voters are worried about anti-white discrimination and think Christianity is under attack [4:00] People on the right and left wanting to disunite the country [15:10] Interview w/ Esau McCaulley Interview Start: [25:41] “The Dangerous Politics of ‘We Will Not Forgive’” “Reading While Black” Interview with Jamie Ivey: The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey: “God Made You to Be You” Ivey Family Interview with Emmanuel Acho: Interview Start: [54:14] The decision to adopt [58:48] Jamie’s background [1:00:54] Parenting differently and the church’s response [1:08:54] Connecting kids with black heritage [1:19:50] Frustration and hope with the church [1:28:12] The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 477: Rethinking the Lord's Prayer with Derwin Gray
10/06/2021
Episode 477: Rethinking the Lord's Prayer with Derwin Gray
Friend of the show Derwin Gray has a new book! When did he have time to write it? We don’t know! But he also found time to sit down with Skye and talk about it. Derwin says the Lord’s Prayer isn’t just a prayer, but an entire catechism of faith, a lesson in communing with God, and a call for the people of God to engage in issues of justice. He unpacks it all with Skye. And did scientists find the biblical city of Sodom? Have psychologists found the number one predictor of atheism? And a new study finds that young Brits are twice as likely to pray regularly than their elders! What’s up with that?? Mike Erre joins Kaitlyn and Phil to parse the news of the day on this week’s Holy Post! Did scientists find the biblical city of Sodom? [6:47] https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/september/sodom-meteor-biblical-archaeology-tall-el-hammam-airburst.html Predicting atheism in adulthood [20:50] https://www.psypost.org/2021/10/new-psychology-research-identifies-a-robust-predictor-of-atheism-in-adulthood-61921 Young people in the UK are twice as likely as older people to pray regularly [35:27] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58681075 Other links: Mike Erre’s podcast - https://voxologypodcast.com Interview with Derwin Gray “God, Do You Hear Me?” Lifeway: https://www.lifeway.com/en/product/god-do-you-hear-me-P005822396 Amazon: https://amzn.to/3my2Ooy Interview Start [50:12] Pastoral vision for prayer [54:54] The Lord’s Prayer as a mini catechism [1:00:28] The kingdom & loving our neighbor [1:09:21] Christ as the treasure [1:16:42] The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 476: Suffering & Grace with Philip Yancey
09/29/2021
Episode 476: Suffering & Grace with Philip Yancey
Philip Yancey is one of the best-selling contemporary Christian authors, and his books helped millions find a more authentic faith long before “deconstruction” was a hashtag. His new memoir, “Where the Light Fell,” tells how he escaped the racist, fundamentalist Christianity of his youth, and his lifelong quest to find God’s grace in a world of suffering. Yancey also sympathizes with the ex-vangelical movement, and shares his concerns for the direction of the faith in America. Also this week, reactions to Josh McDowell’s decision to step back from ministry for a season of listening. Could llama spit end the pandemic? Everyone is spinning the new Pew research about evangelicals to fit their own agenda. Phil doubles down in his footwear battle with the Dutch. And, your butt is a snowflake. News Segment: Where in the world is Christian? [3:06] News of the Butt [9:03] https://futurism.com/neoscope/scientists-toilet-identifies-butthole Llama antibodies treat hamsters’ COVID-19 [14:21] https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/llama-antibodies-treat-hamsters-covid-19-could-lead-to-nasal-spray/ Josh McDowell update [20:47] Pew research: “Evangelical” label [30:19] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/15/more-white-americans-adopted-than-she[…]al-label-during-trump-presidency-especially-his-supporters/ https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-buckets-of-evangelicals https://www.christianpost.com/news/whites-identifying-as-evangelical-grew-during-trump-administration-pew.html https://religiondispatches.org/pew-finds-trump-era-increase-in-the-evangelical-label-and-yes-theyre-real-evangelicals/ https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-475-mammoths-mcdowell-making-sense-of-white-supremacy-with-robert-p-jones Interview with Philip Yancey: Pre-order “Where the Light Fell” (releasing 10/5/21) - https://amzn.to/39Ia7nz “Soul Survivor” - https://amzn.to/39LdolZ Interview start [49:25] A memoir 40 years in the making [51:18] Impact of family and church on faith formation [55:36] The gift of pain [1:13:16] https://amzn.to/3zQpdBK The state of the American church [1:17:08] Encouragement for ex-vangelicals [1:23:05] The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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French Friday - “Buckets of Evangelicals”
09/24/2021
French Friday - “Buckets of Evangelicals”
Senior editor of The Dispatch and constitutional attorney, David French, and Holy Post co-host, Skye Jethani, discuss why the executive committee of the Southern Baptist Convention should waive their attorney-client privilege in the ongoing abuse investigation. Then, French explains why the increase in self-identified evangelicals between 2016 and 2020 isn’t good news, and why he now puts “evangelicals” in three different buckets. Finally, they examine claims from some neo-fundamentalists that empathy is a sin. French says the problem in America isn’t too much empathy, but selective empathy. SBC Executive Committee review [1:17] Defining “evangelical” [15:28] “The American Crisis of Selective Empathy” [33:26]
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Episode 475: Mammoths, McDowell, & Making Sense of White Supremacy with Robert P. Jones
09/22/2021
Episode 475: Mammoths, McDowell, & Making Sense of White Supremacy with Robert P. Jones
Data from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) has found that white Christians—including mainline Protestants, Catholics, and evangelicals—are the most racist religious group in America, Robert P. Jones, the CEO of PRRI, says this isn’t a bug within white American Christianity, but a feature. He discusses his new book “White Too Long” about the lingering legacy of white supremacy in the church. Also this week, apologist Josh McDowell joins those saying CRT is the greatest threat facing the church, but does his argument contradict itself? Why is belief in miracles going up if overall belief in religion is going down? Phil says we shouldn’t worry about scientists trying to resurrect woolly mammoths. Christian explains why she’s in the Netherlands. And police in the UK issue a warning about kids buying beans. News Segment Where in the world is Christian? [00:47] Christian’s research and wooden shoes [4:51]Police issue warning over children ‘buying large quantities of cans of beans’ [9:31] Firm raises $15m to bring back woolly mammoth from extinction [16:44] Josh McDowell’s speech and apology [22:45] New stat: Do you believe in religious miracles? [35:41] Interview with Robert P. Jones PRRI - “The End of White Christian America” - “White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in America Christianity” - PATREON BONUS: Interview Start [44:18] The white Christian shuffle [48:26]Al Mohler and the SBC’s racist history [51:35] Theology of white Christianity [55:31] Data from “Deep Roots: How Slavery Still Shapes Southern Politics” [1:07:59] More data: Thermometer vs. race index [1:11:10] United Daughters of the Confederacy - catechisms [1:15:24] Does church attendance affect racist attitudes? [1:20:22] The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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Episode 474: You Are Not Your Own with Alan Noble
09/15/2021
Episode 474: You Are Not Your Own with Alan Noble
Why are people inside the church often no healthier or happier than those outside? Author Alan Noble says we are suffering from a kind of mass psychosis and going to church won’t solve it. His new book, “You Are Not Your Own” challenges our understanding of identity and purpose, and calls us to a less modern, more Christian, vision of life. Also this week, progressive philosopher and political activist, Cornel West, says liberals need Jesus. What can we learn from him about critiquing our own tribe rather than judging others’. Plus, are white evangelicals keeping the guitar industry alive? And Phil brings us a new batch of animal news. Has the shark messiah been born in Italy? News Segment: Australian ducks learn how to swear [2:47] Rare shark “virgin birth” [5:20] Fender: 1 in 3 guitars are bought by people who play in worship bands [8:52] “Cornel West on Why the Left Needs Jesus” and critiquing our own tribe [10:58] “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” podcast [22:25] PATREON BONUS: Interview with Alan Noble: “You Are Not Your Own: Belonging to God in an Inhuman World” - Interview Start [31:35] A metaphor for modern Western society [33:49] Church is not the solution [39:37] Pre-modernity is not the solution [42:33] Paradox of identity in modern society [48:08] Christian understanding of identity [54:24] Deconstruction and identity [1:04:54] A vision for Christian community [1:08:53] The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases
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Episode 473: Did Texas End Abortion? & Drug War Casualties with Christina Dent
09/08/2021
Episode 473: Did Texas End Abortion? & Drug War Casualties with Christina Dent
Last week, Texas passed a law effectively banning abortion after the sixth week of pregnancy, and the Supreme Court did not immediately strike it down. Both pro-life and pro-choice advocates have erupted in response. But what does the law really mean? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn get into the weeds and explain why the Texas law isn’t the victory many assume. Then, Christina Dent shares about her unexpected journey from a conservative, Southern, Bible school graduate, to drug legalization advocate. She tells Skye about the unexpected casualties caused by America’s war on drugs, and what a more Christian response to the crisis could look like. Plus, China bans kids from playing video games. Is it a smart policy we should copy, or proof that communism is evil? News Segment: News of the Butt - Doctors find ladybug living inside man’s colon [4:05] China bans kids from playing video games during the week [9:51] Recent abortion law in Texas - overview & discussion [19:52] Interview with Christina Dent: End It For Good: Christina Dent's TEDx talk: Holy Post Episode 433 with Bonnie Kristian: Interview Start [52:52] Christina’s story [53:43] It’s not about the drugs [57:40] Childhood risk factors for drug use [1:00:52] Would legalizing drugs solve any problems? [1:03:41] The question of demand [1:09:48] Why legalize all substances? [1:21:10] Common objections to policy changes [1:27:11]
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Episode 472: The “Sin of Empathy” & Spotting Toxic Leaders with Jamin Goggin & Kyle Strobel
09/01/2021
Episode 472: The “Sin of Empathy” & Spotting Toxic Leaders with Jamin Goggin & Kyle Strobel
Former megachurch pastor, evangelical wunderkind, and author of “I Kissed Dating Goodbye,” Josh Harris, has since left his wife and renounced his faith. He’s now pitching himself as an expert guide for other ex-vangelicals. What does his story tell us about the evangelical subculture? Then, strange things are happening at John Piper’s church in Minneapolis where leaders are clashing over issues of race and abuse. And some pastors are resigning after being accused of “the sin of empathy.” Then, Jamin Goggin and Kyle Strobel return to discuss revisions to their 2017 book “The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb.” They stopped selling the book and revised it because one of the Christian leaders they celebrated as a “lamb” turned out to be a “dragon.” They’re now asking, why do we so often fail to spot toxic church leaders? Plus, scientists are making mini-brains from stem cells. But to their surprise, the brains have grown eyes. Leading Phil to ask, What could possibly go wrong? News Segment Updates from the crew (Jason’s cinnamon rolls and Christian’s film) [1:49] Stem cell mini-brains with eyes [7:45] https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-used-stem-cells-to-make-mini-brains-they-grew-rudimentary-eyes Josh Harris [16:21] https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/joshua-harris-mars-hill-podcast-kissed-christianity-goodbye.html “Bethlehem Baptist Leaders clash over ‘coddling’ and ‘cancel culture’” [33:20] https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/august-web-only/bethlehem-bcs-minneapolis-resign-meyer-empathy-rigney.html Interview with Jamin Goggin & Kyle Strobel The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb (Revised and updated edition): https://www.thomasnelson.com/p/way-of-the-dragon/ Episode 238 (Prior conversation with Jamin Goggin and Kyle Strobel): https://www.holypost.com/holy-post-podcast/episode/1eea0773/episode-238-power-and-the-church-withjamin-goggin-and-kyle-strobel BONUS Patreon question: What do we do with the content and impact from toxic leaders? https://www.patreon.com/posts/55594990 Interview Start [1:00:39] Why is there a new edition? [1:02:37] Original story and role of book [1:06:35] How they processed the news of Jean Vanier’s abusive behavior [1:10:43] Discerning wolves from lambs - is there hope for progress? [1:16:17] Ministering to people who have been deceived and hurt [1:24:04]
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EPISODE 471 BONUS INTERVIEW - The Mess in Afghanistan with David French
08/27/2021
EPISODE 471 BONUS INTERVIEW - The Mess in Afghanistan with David French
Is the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan the right policy? And will abandoning the country ultimately cost more American lives than staying? And who’s really to blame for the mess that’s unfolding? Skye talks with David French about these issues and more in this special bonus interview. French is the senior editor of The Dispatch, an attorney, the author of numerous books, and an Iraq War veteran. This bonus episode features the first half of Skye’s hour long conversation with David French. The full 60 minute interview is available exclusively for Holy Post patreon supporters. Full Interview with David French: The Dispatch: Three stages of recent events in Afghanistan [2:26] Moral obligation to Afghans left behind [3:42] Response to refugee resettlement objections [8:53] Afghan armies and US military support [16:26] Effect of US withdrawal on future US military credibility [21:12] Who’s really to blame? [26:21]
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Holy Post Episode 471: Oreos, Ethics, & Afghanistan with Matthew Soerens
08/25/2021
Holy Post Episode 471: Oreos, Ethics, & Afghanistan with Matthew Soerens
With religious believers among the most likely to downplay the seriousness of both the pandemic and climate change, a recent article claims secular people and atheists are now more empathic and moral than conservative Christians. But is the problem really that evangelicals are less moral, or that they’re more easily deceived? Then, Matthew Soerens from World Relief talks about the unfolding tragedy in Afghanistan. What dangers do the thousands of Afghans who helped the American military face as the Taliban takes back the country, and what obligation does the U.S. have to help them? While evangelicals remain widely opposed to welcoming refugees, will they make an exception for those who risked their lives to help American troops? Plus, a strike at Nabisco threatens the country’s Oreo supply, launching Phil into a rant about cookie varieties and late stage capitalism. Patreon Bonus with David French: News Segment: Nabisco strike and Phil’s rant about cookie varieties [4:22] Afghanistan, Haiti, wildfires, floods, heatwaves and droughts [19:12] Christian’s history with Afghanistan [20:40] Current situation in Afghanistan [24:40] Are Christians less empathic and moral, or simply more easily deceived? (Discussion of article below) [32:50] Interview with Matthew Soerens: “Welcoming the Stranger: Justice, Compassion & Truth in the Immigration Debate” - Interview Start [56:00] Talking with church leaders about Afghanistan crisis [58:00] Overview of current situation and America’s history/promises in Afghanistan [59:24] Responding to the rhetoric that opposes welcoming refugees [1:08:20] lang=en Evangelical Immigration Table - Statement to President Biden [1:12:34] Practical ways to support [1:14:22] Ongoing crisis - DREAMers and DACA program [1:17:01]
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Episode 470: The Happiest Countries & Childlike Faith with Mandy Smith
08/18/2021
Episode 470: The Happiest Countries & Childlike Faith with Mandy Smith
The United Nations World Happiness Report is out, and it says the United States is still behind the world’s happiest countries. Can we learn anything from them, or does America’s diversity mean perpetual conflict? Then, pastor and author Mandy Smith says Western culture has warped our understanding of what it means to be a Christian by focusing too much on knowledge and power. The antidote? Embracing Jesus’ call to childlike faith. Also this week—covid skeptics have some explaining to do because last year life expectancy in the US dropped the most since WWII—and it wasn’t because of murder hornets. Plus, a woman sues McDonald’s for tempting her to break her Lenten fast. News Segment: Woman sues McDonald’s after burger ad compelled her to break Lent fast [2:55] COVID-19 caused U.S. life expectancy to drop 1.5 years [09:38] White evangelical COVID-19 vaccine acceptance has jumped 11 points since March [09:38] UN report on global happiness [21:47] Interview with Mandy Smith: Unfettered: Imagining a Childlike Faith beyond the Baggage of Western Culture - Interview Start [48:06] How is Western civilization in a tailspin? [49:56] An antidote for two false ways of engaging faith [52:35] Qualities of a childlike faith [56:01] Wholistic faith and childlikeness [57:29] Humility & honesty within disorder [01:00:37] Error in overreacting to rationality of Western culture [01:05:21] Story about dancing, healing, and releasing control [01:10:31] Reconciling the call to maturity with a childlike faith [01:19:59] Other resources mentioned: (The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.)
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Episode 469: Fighting Animals, Individualism, & Engaging Teens with Kara Powell
08/11/2021
Episode 469: Fighting Animals, Individualism, & Engaging Teens with Kara Powell
Phil’s Facebook page erupted after the recent episode about reparations—leading the Holy Post gang to ask about the limits of evangelical theology, and how American individualism has shaped our understanding of liberty, economics, and even theology. Then, a prayer service in Portland became a brawl between Proud Boys and Antifa involving paintball guns. Is it a harbinger of more conflicts to come? And a new survey finds Americans are far more confident than Brits they could triumph in a fight against a lion, a chimpanzee, and even an elephant. Then, Skye talks to Kara Powell, the Executive Director of the Fuller Youth Institute, about her latest book, “3 Big Questions That Change Every Teenager.” Based on extensive research, Powell explains the unique challenges young people face today, and how parents and churches can engage them with empathy while creating the right conditions for them to grow in faith. PATREON BONUS: News Segment: Animal News: What animals could you beat in a fight? [3:16] Proud Boys and Antifa clash at Portland prayer service [13:25] Reparations, institutional responsibility, and responses on Phil’s Facebook page [19:10] Anthony Bradley - Twitter thread on collective sin [20:49] Individualism and collectivism [27:55] Interview with Kara Powell: 3 Big Questions That Change Every Teenager (special link for Holy Post listeners) - Interview Start [50:28] Recap of research leading to latest book [51:41] Qualities of an empathetic church [53:54] Three big questions (Identity, Belonging, Purpose) [59:41] Question 1: Identity [1:02:53] Role of technology [1:07:27] Question 2: Belonging [1:12:06] Mistakes for churches to avoid [1:16:16] Questions to spark more questions [1:22:06] Essential qualities for churches to shepherd young people [1:24:28]Other resources mentioned:
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Holy Post 468: Lessons from the Rise & Fall of Mars Hill with Mike Cosper
08/04/2021
Holy Post 468: Lessons from the Rise & Fall of Mars Hill with Mike Cosper
It seems like everyone is talking about the new podcast from Christianity Today, “The Rise & Fall of Mars Hill” about the famed Seattle megachurch and its controversial pastor, Mark Driscoll. The creator of the podcast, Mike Cosper, talks to Skye about the complicated reality of Mars Hill, and what the rest of the evangelical church can learn from its story. Also this week, scientists discover a parasite that could make you live for 200 years, keep you perpetually young, and make you popular. But there’s a catch. A woman lets God take the wheel, literally. The Creation Museum in Kentucky thinks rebuilding the Tower of Babel in the key to racial harmony. And Phil’s confused about an Olympic team’s decision to wear shorts rather than the mandated bikini bottoms. Is it a victory for conservative or progressive values? The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill: Patreon Bonus Segment:
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