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Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.
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651: The Jimmy Carter Cudgel & Preparing for Mass Deportations with Gabriel Salguero
01/08/2025
651: The Jimmy Carter Cudgel & Preparing for Mass Deportations with Gabriel Salguero
Former president and born again Christian, Jimmy Carter, died at the age of 100. As the media reflects on his legacy of public service and humanitarianism, some are contrasting Carter’s faith with that of conservative white evangelicals. Esau McCaulley says Carter is being used as a cudgel by progressives to shame their political opponents. Is he right? Skye and Phil unpack two explanations for the country’s rejection of President Carter for Ronald Reagan in 1980. Was Carter too liberal or too humble? Then, pastor and Holy Post Pundit, Gabriel Salguero, is back to talk about a second Trump administration’s plan to deport millions of undocumented immigrants, and how Christians and church leaders should hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Also this week—Phil wants to do a telethon for turtles. Holy Post Plus Getting Schooled - Heresy 101: 0:00 - Show Starts 3:51 - Theme Song 4:12 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout 5:15 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 6:54 - News of the Bubble Butt Turtles 16:15 - Jimmy Carter’s Legacy 23:36 - Is Carter Popular for Being a Progressive Evangelical? 30:36 - Carter, Mr. Rogers, and Pope Francis 49:42 - Sponsor - Wheaton - Go to to learn more about the Doctor of Ministry program at the Wheaton College grad school 50:46 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 51:53 - Interview 59:24 - The Ambiguity of the Trump Administration 1:11:46 - Developing a Pastoral Response 1:22:03 - Signs of Mass Deportation 1:28:18 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Sea Turtle Bubble Butt 3D Printing: Jimmy Carter Embodied the “Road Not Taken” by Many White Evangelical Christians: Jimmy Carter’s Life Should Make Christian Right Feel Ashamed: Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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650: Mailbag: Past Regrets, Future Hopes, & Fitting Everyone in Heaven
01/01/2025
650: Mailbag: Past Regrets, Future Hopes, & Fitting Everyone in Heaven
Happy new year! We’re starting 2025 by answering questions from the Holy Post audience. You’ve asked us about movies and shows we are looking forward to this year, and what regrets we have about things we’ve said in the past. Phil explains his fashion choices, Skye explains why he’s still a conservative, and Kaitlyn has an idea for replacing “News of the Butt.” Plus, will there be enough room for everyone in the new heavens and earth? 0:00 - Show Starts 2:57 - Theme Song 3:18 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at 4:26 - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to 5:33 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 8:20 - Skye's FBI Hat 11:42 - Public Statement Regrets 18:50 - News of the Butt Replacement? 22:01 - Movies and Shows Coming Out in 2025 26:15 - Loving Your Enemies When They're Hurting Others 35:37 - Holy Post: Liberal or Conservative? 47:35 - What Should Phil Wear? 52:44 - Not a Political Talk Podcast 1:03:57 - How to Fit All the People in Heaven 1:10:09 - End Credits Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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French Friday: The End of #MeToo
12/27/2024
French Friday: The End of #MeToo
The MeToo movement was a huge cultural movement—but now, many major government leaders with sexual abuse scandals under their belt seem to go under the radar—how did we get to this point? And what about the aftermath of the ChurchToo movement? David and Skye discuss this, as well as a case in the Supreme Court about Tennessee’s ban on transgender medical intervention for kids. 0:00 - Theme Song 0:17 - Show Begins 7:19 - MeToo as a Christian Ethic 12:34 - False Safety in Christian Subculture 22:48 - The Bad Patterns in the Aftermath 28:45 - Bon on Transgender Medical Intervention for Kids 35:14 - Rational Basis Example 44:45 - Tattoos and Parental Consent 52:09 - David’s Prediction on the Court Ruling 58:15 - Looking Forward to Superman 1:06:23 - End Credits Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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649: The Christmas Story Facts & Fiction with Nijay Gupta
12/25/2024
649: The Christmas Story Facts & Fiction with Nijay Gupta
Merry Christmas! In celebrity conversion news, Denzel Washington got baptized at his church in Harlem just days before his 70th birthday and became a licensed minister, and New York Times columnist, David Brooks, has written about his surprising journey from agnosticism to Christianity. What do these stories tell us about our culture’s ongoing hunger for God? On the other side, David French explains why some Christians now think cruelty is acceptable. New Testament scholar, Nijay Gupta, is back to talk about what the Gospels actually say about Jesus’ birth, and what our Christmas pageants get right and very wrong about the story. Also this week—an airport in New Zealand bans hugs longer than three minutes Sponsor - Logos Bible Study App: If you want to simplify your study and go deeper into Scripture, visit www.logos.com/holypost. You can get started for free with an exclusive extended 2-month free trial. Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at https://www.faithfulcounseling.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off Links Mentioned in the News Segment Is this airport’s 3-minute limit on goodbye hugs ‘inhumane’? Denzel Washington Gets Baptized and Becomes a Minister During Live Streamed Ceremony: 'It Took a While but I'm Here' Opinion | The Shock of Faith: It’s Nothing Like I Thought It Would Be
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648: Hurt & Healed by the Church with Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez
12/18/2024
648: Hurt & Healed by the Church with Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez
A Catholic bishop, with a social media following second only to the Pope, is proving that dumbing down the faith is the wrong way to reach young adults. But is his celebrity status getting in the way? A new study finds the most generous people are also the most likely to consistently read the Bible. Kaitlyn talks to Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez about telling the truth to the church out of love. Her new book, “Being a Sanctuary,” is honest about the harms many churches are causing, but also shows how the church is the key to healing. Also this week—rat race cars in Froot Loop land. Holy Post Plus Hills to Die On: 0:00 - Intro 1:19 - Show Starts 2:42 - Theme Song 3:03 - Sponsor - Aura Frames - Exclusive $45-off Carver Matte at . Use code HOLYPOST at checkout to save! 4:06- Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to 5:16 - Skye’s Dead Salmon Hat 8:15 - Rats Driving Little Cars! 12:50 - Rats Love Driving Little Cars! 21:26 - Bible-Readers Donate More? 25:38 - Are Bible-Readers More Communal? 37:50 - Father Robert Barron 48:33- Sponsor - Glorify - Sign up for the #1 Christian Daily Devotional App to help you stay focused on God. Go to to download the app today! 49:36 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 50:55 - Interview 53:32 - Why Did She Write Being a Sanctuary? 56:38 - The Starbucks Church Model 1:03:25 - Disagreeing Within the Church 1:13:05 - Approaching Looking for a New Church 1:24:20 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Bishop Robert Barron: Rats Driving Little Cars! Christians Who Read Bible Are More Charitable: Other resources: Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe by Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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647: The Death of Dating & Megachurch Anti-Racism with Hahrie Han
12/11/2024
647: The Death of Dating & Megachurch Anti-Racism with Hahrie Han
More Americans than ever are single but they’re not happy about it. A new article in The Atlantic examines how the sexes are drifting apart, why more men are looking for a partner than women, and the side-effects of using an app rather than community to find a date. Then, political scientist Hahrie Han’s new book “Undivided” explores why the racial solidarity program at an evangelical megachurch was more successful than corporate DEI programs, and how that success created unexpected challenges for the predominantly white church. Also this week: the Swiss make an A.I. Jesus, and a Chicago school kid makes a medical breakthrough. Holy Post Plus Bonus Interview: 0:00 - Intro 1:08 - Show Starts 2:47 - Theme Song 3:09 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:13 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 5:21 - Listener Shirt Sent In 9:26 - News of the Butt 12:46 - AI Jesus Confessional 16:04 - Why Not an AI Priest? 21:46 - Are People Dating Anymore? 27:17 - Men’s Delayed Adulthood 34:45 - The Church as Family 51:42 - Sponsor - Glorify - Sign up for the #1 Christian Daily Devotional App to help you stay focused on God. Go to to download the app today! 52:47 - Sponsor - Aura Frames - Exclusive $45-off Carver Matte at . Use code HOLYPOST at checkout to save! 53:53 - Sponsor - Go to and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 54:58 - Interview 58:00 - Why Write About the Undivided Program? 1:09:06 - What Problems Did Undivided’s Success Cause? 1:18:23 - Jesus and “Being Apolitical” 1:29:13 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Swiss ‘AI Jesus’ The Death of America Romance Other resources: Undivided: The Quest for Racial Solidarity in an American Church by Hahrie Han: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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646: The Late Great Hal Lindsey & Writing Prayers with Douglas McKelvey
12/04/2024
646: The Late Great Hal Lindsey & Writing Prayers with Douglas McKelvey
Many ideas about the end times including the role of Israel, the mark of the beast, and the rapture became popular through Hal Lindsey’s best-selling book from the 1970s, “The Late Great Planet Earth.” Lindsay died last week at 95. We discuss his legacy and how his book is still shaping the American church long after most of its theology has been debunked. Then, Kaitlyn talks to Douglas McKelvey about his series of prayer books, “Every Moment Holy.” He explains the value of using written prayers and not just spontaneous ones, and how to find God in the ordinary activities of life. Also this week—why are Bible sales way up but church attendance still declining? And 80’s orca fashion makes a comeback. Holy Post Plus My Hill to Die On: Tipping 0:00 - Intro 1:50 - Show Starts 3:29 - Theme Song 3:50 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:53 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 6:14 - Orcas Wearing Fish Hats 13:22 - Hal Lindsey and End Times 26:51 - End Times and an Enchanted World 32:26 - Bible Sales Up! 42:07 - Sponsor - Aura Frames - Exclusive $45-off Carver Matte at . Use code HOLYPOST at checkout to save! 43:11 - Sponsor - Visit and get the professional faith-based counseling that you need. 44:15 - Interview 46:32 - Why Was Every Moment Holy Written? 52:13 - Why Pray Prayers Someone Else Wrote? 58:36 - What Prayers Made it Into the Book? 1:06:21 - How Is Every Moment Holy Used? 1:16:30 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Orcas Wearing Fish Hats: “Late Great Planet Earth” Author Passes Away: Sales of Bibles Are Booming: Other resources: Every Moment Holy - Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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French Friday: "Nerdfest 2024"
11/29/2024
French Friday: "Nerdfest 2024"
David French has finally watched Rings of Power season two—and he and Skye don’t quite have the same feelings about it. They compare it to House of the Dragon’s more cynical fantasy world—and why Dune is maybe closer to Tolkien than Martin. They also talk about the Penguin crime drama series, the upcoming Superman movie, and Silo. 0:00 - Theme Song 0:18 - Show Begins 1:16 - David’s Take on Rings of Power 5:40 - Skye’s Beef with Rings of Power 13:20 - House of the Dragon 21:52 - World War I 26:45 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 27:50 - Sponsor - Go to and use code CURIOUSLY to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 28:57 - Dune 34:55 - Dark Matter 37:28 - Penguin 41:04 - Looking Forward to Superman 48:56 - End Credits
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645: The Red Letter Legacy of Tony Campolo with Shane Claiborne
11/27/2024
645: The Red Letter Legacy of Tony Campolo with Shane Claiborne
Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss how to survive the holidays. What’s the best way to engage (or disengage) a contentious relative who wants to argue about politics, and how do we remain united as churches and families in these divided times? Professor, author, and preacher Tony Campolo died last week. Shane Claiborne returns to discuss his friendship with Campolo and his legacy of challenging the American church with the “red letters” of the Bible. Also this week—what’s the real goal behind protecting public nativity displays, and disappointed political witches. 0:00 - Intro 1:33 - Show Starts 2:50 - Theme Song 3:12 - Sponsor - Wheaton Graduate School - Learn in a rich, rigorous Christian environment - 4:20 - Sponsor - BioLogos - Go to and check out the Language of God podcast! 5:24 - Interview 6:42 - Political Witches 12:54 - The Liberty Council’s Annual Report 17:19 - Tony Campolo’s Passing 26:35 - Being Grateful 46:03 - Favorite Conflict-Deflection Topic 54:05 - Sponsor - Aura Frames - Exclusive $45-off Carver Mat at . Use code HOLYPOST at checkout to save! 55:43 - Sponsor - Glorify - Sign up for the #1 Christian Daily Devotional App to help you stay focused on God. Go to to download the app today! 56:48 - Interview 1:06:34 - Dealing with Pushback 1:12:00 - Where “Red Letter Christians” Comes From 1:20:46 - What Tony Was Like to Be Around 1:29:15 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Witches Report Their Spells Against Trump Aren’t Working: “He Has a Shield” Liberty Council’s Friend or Foe Campaign: Tony Campolo’s Story Other resources: With God Daily with Skye Jethani: Voxology Podcast with Mike Erre: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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644: Unplugging from Politics & the Real Meaning of Acts with N.T. Wright
11/20/2024
644: Unplugging from Politics & the Real Meaning of Acts with N.T. Wright
After an exhausting year of politics and the re-election of Donald Trump, what is a faithful way for Christians to navigate the next four years? Should we continue to immerse ourselves in political news, or is it better to disconnect from the media? And should Christians join the political fights online, or unplug to better serve our local communities? The Holy Post crew responds to articles by a number of Christians leaders addressing these questions. Then, New Testament scholar, N.T. Wright, is back to discuss the book of Acts. Wright says an understanding of ancient temples is the key to the message of Acts. Also this week—the origin of F-words. Holy Post Plus Bonus Interview with N. T. Wright: 0:00 - Intro 0:38 - Show Starts 1:30 - Theme Song 1:51 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 2:55 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 6:15 - Trump Cabinet Picks and Praying for Leaders 15:33 - Russell Moore on Getting Through the Trump Years 27:20 - Is the Church a Turtle? 33:39 - The Wisdom Literature 41:20 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 42:25 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get the special Christmas deal of up to 30% off your first order by going to 43:30 - Interview 47:18 - The Holy Spirit Before Pentecost? 52:09 - Ananias and Sapphira 56:17 - Why Did Early Christians Still Go to the Temple? 1:04:55 - The Church, Division, and Revelation 1:16:55 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Thanks to the Litfin Divinity School at Wheaton College for sponsoring our in person events. Learn more at Farming Gave Us “F” and “V” How to Get Through the Next Four Years: Go Slow and Repair Things: All Sides News Source Of Time and Turtles: Mending the World, Shell by Shattered Shell: A Heartwarming Compassionate Portrait of Injured Turtles, Perfect for Nature Lovers by Sy Montgomery and Matt Patterson: Other resources: The Challenge of Acts: Rediscovering What the Church Was and Is by N. T. Wright: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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643: How Trump Won the Election with David French
11/13/2024
643: How Trump Won the Election with David French
It’s been a week since the election and why Americans voted to send Donald Trump back to the White House is beginning to come into focus. The entire Holy Post team—Phil, Skye, Kaitlyn, and Esau—is here to talk about why Trump won and how Harris lost. Was it the economy? Was it racism and misogyny? Was it identity politics or disinformation in the media? Everyone has a theory. Then New York Times columnist and Holy Post regular, David French, is back to give his take on the election. He explains why Kamala Harris’s decision to focus on abortion backfired, and why January 6 did not disqualify Trump for most Americans. 0:00 - Intro 1:21 - Theme Song 1:42 - Sponsor - Glorify - Sign up for the #1 Christian Daily Devotional App to help you stay focused on God. Go to to download the app today! 2:42 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 3:50 - Show Starts 5:46 - The Shattered Democrat Coalition 10:09 - Why the Voting Patterns Shifted 15:40 - Paternalistic Party Messaging 22:11 - The Meatloaf Delusion 34:20 - Grieving to Avoid Political Resentment 39:05 - Faith Groups Mobilizing to Help Immigrants and Refugees 45:41 - Resisting Dehumanization 51:12 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 52:30 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 53:40 - Interview 58:25 - How Abortion Influenced this Election 1:04:56 - Why Didn’t Trump’s Baggage Matter? 1:15:31 - The Guard Rails of Democracy 1:20:49 - Trump’s Westeros 1:27:50 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Thanks to the Litfin Divinity School at Wheaton College for sponsoring our in person events. Learn more at The Shattering of the Democratic Coalition The Link Between Media Consumption and Public Opinion Faith Groups Mobilize to Protect Migrants and Refugees Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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642: How the Friendship of Lewis & Tolkien Changed the World with John Hendrix
11/06/2024
642: How the Friendship of Lewis & Tolkien Changed the World with John Hendrix
The 2024 election is finally here. Who won? We don’t know because we recorded this episode on Monday. But we do know that MAGA men are not happy about their wives secretly voting for Kamala Harris. And a new study finds trust in American institutions—especially the media—continues to decline. Is there a way to reverse the trend? Then, to take an overdue break from politics, Skye talks to author and illustrator, John Hendrix, about his new graphic non-fiction book “The Mythmakers” about the remarkable friendship between C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien. It’s a fun conversation about faith, fantasy, and just a little bit of nerdiness. Also this week—a Japanese village populated with puppets will fuel your nightmares. 0:00 - Intro 1:31 - Show Starts 3:04 - Theme Song 3:25 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:27- Sponsor - The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club - To get a Full-Size artisanal olive oil for just $1 shipping, go to 5:38 - Skye’s Ominous New Hat 10:30 - Japanese Village Makes Puppet Population 17:25 - Ad for Women to Vote Harris in Secret? 25:10 - One Vote per Household? 30:00 - Declining Trust in Institutions? 36:15 - Cold War and Institutional Trust 40:40 - Legal Accountability 45:10 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 46:28 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 47:37 - Interview 50:56 - The Making of “The Mythmakers” 55:50 - The Unlikely Friendship of Lewis and Tolkien 59:50 - Lewis and the True Myth 1:04:46 - Disenchanted Fandoms 1:09:35 - The Fellowship Divided 1:15:13 - Illustrating Tolkien and Lewis 1:19:23 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Japanese Puppet Village Declining Trust in Institutions: Other resources: The Mythmakers: The Remarkable Fellowship of C. S. Lewis & J. R. R. Tolkien by John Hendrix: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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641: The Roots of Racial & Environmental Injustice with David Swanson
10/30/2024
641: The Roots of Racial & Environmental Injustice with David Swanson
With only a week before the presidential election, Phil and Kaitlyn are joined by Mike Erre to discuss Trump’s rally at Madison Square Garden. Why do so many white evangelicals ignore the racism, misogyny, and dehumanizing rhetoric coming from the MAGA movement? It is really about supporting certain policies or the idolatry of power? Then, David Swanson is back to discuss his latest book, “Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice.” Swanson says we will be compelled to engage both issues when we see their shared origin in the sin of greed. Also this week—the waffle apocalypse is upon us! 0:00 - Mike Attempts to Be The Host 00:48 - Intro 2:30 - Show Starts 5:16 - Theme Song 5:38 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 6:43 - Sponsor - The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club - To get a Full-Size artisanal olive oil for just $1 shipping, go to 7:50 - Phil Requests Voxology Podcast Coloring Sheets 11:38 - Mass Waffle Listeria Recall 16:19 - Trump Had a Rally 27:04 - Power Worship 41:18 - Centering Christ While Discussing Politics 45:20 - Seth Erie and the Shemah 53:04 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 54:08 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - Brooklyn Bedding is offering up to 25% off sitewide for our listeners! Go to 55:06 - Sponsor - Go to and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! Interview 56:11 - Connecting Creation Care and Racial Justice 1:06:08 - Creation as a Gift 1:11:48 - How to Start Understanding Your Environment 1:16:51 - Living Transitory Lives as Christians 1:35:09 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Waffle Recall: Kaitlyn’s Romans 13 Video: Other resources: Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial Environmental Injustice by David W. Swanson: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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640: Holy Post LIVE from Chicago with Charlie Dates
10/23/2024
640: Holy Post LIVE from Chicago with Charlie Dates
Today’s episode is all content from our recent live event in Chicago. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the rapid shift in public opinion about immigration—and it’s not just among Republicans. Why is support for immigration down dramatically among Democrats and independents too? Then Charlie Dates, the pastor of Progressive Baptist Church and Salem Baptist Church in Chicago, joins the show to talk about the widening divide between the black church and white evangelicalism, why he’s tired of talking about white evangelicals, and where he sees hope for the future of the church in the U.S. And Holy Post producer, Mike Stralow, challenges the hosts to a quiz show decathlon. Plus, Al Pacino says there’s no afterlife, and scientists discover strategically constipated tadpoles. Head over to Holy Post Plus for the full unedited version: 0:00 - Intro 1:50 - Show Starts 2:23 - Theme Song 4:14 - Al Pacino Didn’t Go to Heaven 8:36 - News of the Butt: Strategically Constipated Tadpoles 15:42 - Public Opinion Shift on Immigration 19:35 - Thermostatic Public Opinion 24:00 - How the Church Can Approach Division 34:23 - Sponsor - The National Association of Evangelicals - Listen to the Difficult to explore how Christians can become peacemakers. Go to to check it out! 35:32- Sponsor - The Pour Over - Stay informed while remaining focused on Christ with The Pour Over Today. Check it out at 36:43 - Interview with Charlie Dates 39:47 - The Black Church and Political Polarization 46:50 - Why Talk Specifically About “The Black Church” Rather Than Just “The Church?” 55:20 - Cynicism and White Naivete 1:04:50 - Pastors Excluded from Activism 1:12:43 - Sponsor - The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club - To get a Full-Size artisanal olive oil for just $1 shipping, go to 1:13:52 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 1:14:58 - What Would 2024 Skye and Phil Tell 2012 Skye and Phil? 1:19:13 - What Would 2024 Kaitlyn and Charlie Tell 2012 Kaitlyn and Charlie? 1:34:26 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Al Pacino’s Near Death Experience: Tadpoles Hold in Their Poop: Thermostatic Politics: Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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639: The Apostle to the Apostles with Jennifer Powell McNutt
10/16/2024
639: The Apostle to the Apostles with Jennifer Powell McNutt
The election is just three weeks away and Phil is exhausted, Kaitlyn is concerned that evangelicals supporting Harris are making the same mistake as those supporting Trump, and Skye blames the whole mess on WWJD bracelets. Based on Kaitlyn’s recent Religion News Service article, the Holy Post crew discuss a better way for Christians to think about politics and voting. Then, Wheaton College professor of theology and history, Jennifer Powell McNutt, talks to Skye about her new book, “The Mary We Forgot.” She argues that the Mary Magdalene we encounter in the Gospels is not a scandalized prostitute, but a significant supporter of Jesus’ ministry and “the apostle to the apostles.” Also this week—more useless fruit fly science. 0:00 - Intro 1:51 - Show Starts 4:54 - Theme Song 5:15 - The National Association of Evangelicals - Listen to the Difficult to explore how Christians can become peacemakers. Go to to check it out! 6:21 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 9:18 - Fruit Fly Study on Swallowing and Happiness 15:21 - Kaitlyn Learns About 80’s Bands 18:30 - Kaitlyn’s Schiess’s Political Method Article 23:15 - Simplicity and WWJD Bracelets 31:50 - Methods and Conclusions 47:50 - Sponsor - The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club - To get a Full-Size artisanal olive oil for just $1 shipping, go to ;x 48:58 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 50:04 - Interview 53:04 - Different Views of Mary Magdalene 56:44 - Church History and Interpretations of Mary Magdalene 1:06:15 - Mary Magdalene the Tower 1:18:16 - Mary Magdalene the Apostle to the Apostles 1:24:15 - How Mary Magdalene Points to Christ 1:26:58 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Thanks to the Litfin Divinity School at Wheaton College for sponsoring our in person events. Learn more at Fruit Flies Get Happy from Swallowing In Search of a Christian Political Method with Kaitlyn Schiess: Other resources: The Mary We Forgot: What the Apostle to the Apostles Teaches the Church Today by Jennifer Powell McNutt: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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638: Keep Christianity Weird & Lessons from the Church Abuse Scandal with Kristen Kobes Du Mez
10/09/2024
638: Keep Christianity Weird & Lessons from the Church Abuse Scandal with Kristen Kobes Du Mez
Being a cultural Christian used to be an insult, but more people are embracing the label with pride. The Holy Post crew unpacks what’s behind the growing affection for cultural Christianity, and they explain why it’s more important than ever to embrace the weird, supernatural beliefs of the faith. Historian Kristen Kobes Du Mez is back to discuss her new documentary, “For Our Daughters,” about the sexual abuse scandals that have shaken the faith of many in the church. She sees a link between the theology and culture that created and covered-up sexual abuse in the church, and the rise of political idolatry within evangelicalism. Also this week—hurricanes are now political, and a Haitian pastor in New Hampshire with a sense of humor invites pets to his church. For Our Daughters Full Documentary: Holy Post Plus: Getting Schooled: Debt and Theology 101 0:00 - Intro 1:18 - Show Starts 3:24 - Theme Song 3:45 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:50 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 7:18 - Terry Gilliam’s News of the Butt 10:30 - Haitian Priest Blesses Pets 15:05 - Hurricane Helene 23:02 - Cultural Christianity Michael Bird Article 34:58 - Why Christian Beliefs are Necessary for Christian Virtue 53:47 - Sponsor - The National Association of Evangelicals - Listen to the Difficult to explore how Christians can become peacemakers. Go to to check it out! 54:53 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 56:00 - Interview 1:02:26 - How Women are Blamed for Men’s Sins 1:08:47 - Are Churches Better Prepared to Address Sexual Abuse? 1:14:54 - Is the Culture More Likely to Call Out Abuse Now? 1:18:17 - The Link Between January 6 and Sexual Abuse Scandals 1:24:04 - Will There Be a Church Backlash if Kamala Wins? 1:29:04 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Thanks to the Litfin Divinity School at Wheaton College for sponsoring our in person events. Learn more at Haitian Priest Blesses Pets: Disaster Relief for Hurricane Helene: The Rise of Cultural Christianity: Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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637: Your Church is Too American with Steve Bezner
10/02/2024
637: Your Church is Too American with Steve Bezner
Steve Bezner, a pastor in Houston, had a troubling realization—his people were being shaped more by social media, YouTube, and cable news than by the Bible, and their views of money, sex, and power looked more American than Christian. He talks with Kaitlyn about his new book, “Your Jesus Is Too American,” and how being more relational than organizational may be the first step toward healing our churches. Also this week, are American evangelicals going through the five stages of grief? If so, what does it mean to accept our loss of cultural influence? For the first time, new data says Gen Z men are more religious than Gen Z women. Why are young women leaving the church and why are young men coming? Plus, now even gorillas are addicted to smartphones. 0:00 - Intro 1:46 - Show Starts 2:52 - Theme Song 3:14 - Sponsor - Zondervan - The NIV, Upside-Down Kingdom Bible helps you flip earthly wisdom on its head - Go to 4:20 - Sponsor - BioLogos - Go to and check out the Language of God podcast! 5:20 - Kohl’s Makes Decisions Easier 6:28 - Gorillas Getting Too Much Screentime at the Zoo! 11:42 - Accepting Lost Evangelical Influence 18:07 - Collaborating as Political Minorities 31:42 - Are Young Men Taking Over the Church? 51:39 - Sponsor - The National Association of Evangelicals - Listen to the Difficult to explore how Christians can become peacemakers. Go to to check it out! 53:37- Interview 59:10 - How We’ve Failed to Disciple People About Sex 1:06:48 - Prophetic Politics 1:13:50 - Church Pain 1:19:36 - Community Service in the Church 1:28:38 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Gorillas and Screen Time The Acceptance Stage of Lost Evangelical Influence America’s Young Men Are Falling Even Further Behind Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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French Friday: The Pope’s Humility & the Joy of MAGA
09/27/2024
French Friday: The Pope’s Humility & the Joy of MAGA
In a military operation straight out of a spy novel, Israel infiltrated Hezbollah’s communication networks and detonated pager bombs and walkie talkies. David French and Skye discuss the operation and the long term ramifications. Then, they break down Pope Francis’ controversial comments on salvation that have sparked backlash among conservative Catholics. Finally, they unpack a surprising trend: why are young men returning to church in greater numbers than women? Is it a sign of hope for the church, or something more complicated? 0:00 - Theme Song 0:17 - Episode Starts, Update on Israel 13:19 - David French on the Pope Francis 18:50 - The Pope and Existential Humility 27:56 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 29:04 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 30:35 - MAGA’s Delight in Outrage 44:48 - Young Men Are Now More Religious Than Young Women 49:40 - Are Economic Shifts Drawing Men Towards the Church? 54:57 - How Secular Marketing Strategies are Changing the Church 57:46 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: David French on Pope Francis: Men Are Now More Religious Than Women: MAGA Will Fall for Anything: Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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636: America’s Government Teacher on Hope & Resilience with Sharon McMahon
09/25/2024
636: America’s Government Teacher on Hope & Resilience with Sharon McMahon
With both the election and polls getting closer, new research from Lifeway says a record number of pastors are refusing to say who they’re voting for—even on an anonymous survey. Mike Erre says he wouldn’t answer the survey either. His reason may surprise you. Phil explores how Pat Buchanan’s 1992 presidential campaign was a harbinger of today’s politics. And diversity experts featured in Matt Walsh’s new documentary claim he lied to get them to participate in the film. Walsh says it’s okay to lie for the greater good of winning the culture war. Is he right? Then, Kaitlyn interviews America’s Government Teacher and social media sensation, Sharon McMahon, about her new book “The Small and the Mighty.” McMahon says history can give us hope and resilience to live faithfully in our divided times. Also this week—Be careful, that’s not an Oreo on the ground. 0:00 - BioLogos - Go to and check out the Language of God podcast! 1:05 - Intro 2:24 - Preview of The Esau McCaulley Podcast 5:36 - Show Starts 6:58 - Theme Song 7:19 - Sponsor - The National Association of Evangelicals - Listen to the Difficult to explore how Christians can become peacemakers. Go to to check it out! 8:26 - Skye’s New Hat 13:24 - News of the Oreo Butt 18:27 - LifeWay’s Research on Pastors’ Voting Polls 27:42 - Mike’s Church Navigating the Political Divide 30:58 - The GOP’s Slow Turn from Evangelicalism 42:41 - Has Anti-Immigration Sentiment Become Mainstream in Christianity? 51:00 - Matt Walsh’s “Am I a Racist?” 57:38 - Sponsor- Brooklyn Bedding - Brooklyn Bedding is offering up to 25% off sitewide for our listeners! Go to to get yours now! 58:40 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit to learn more about refugee resettlement! 59:48 - Interview 1:01:34 - How Did McMahon Get Into Teaching History on the Internet? 1:06:55 - How Do You Engage Online Without Falling Into Outrage? 1:10:30 - What Is Your Most Important Work? 1:16:09 - What Is Your Capacity? 1:27:17 - Septima Clark 1:33:27 - Loving Your Enemies 1:39:16 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Oreo Spider Butts The GOP’s Slow Turn from American Evangelicalism Half of Pastors Plan to Vote for Trump, Nearly a Quarter Wouldn’t Say How Far is Too Far? Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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635: Slandering Haitians & Parents for Peace in Israel/Palestine with Robi Damelin
09/18/2024
635: Slandering Haitians & Parents for Peace in Israel/Palestine with Robi Damelin
During last week’s presidential debate, Donald Trump amplified a false rumor about Haitian immigrants eating pets in Springfield, Ohio. Since then the community, which was already facing significant challenges, has been shaken by deepening divisions, racism, and even bomb threats. We look at how church leaders in Springfield are responding, what’s really behind the pet-eating lie, and why some of Trump’s Christian supporters are embracing the demonstrably false story. Then, Skye talks with Robi Damelin, an 80-year-old peace activist he met during his recent trip to Israel. Robi’s son was killed by a Palestinian sniper in 2002, and since then she’s been partnering with grieving parents in both Israel and Palestine to advocate for peace despite growing resistance from leadership in both communities. Also this week—magic Dorito dust makes mice disappear. 0:00 - Intro 1:56 - Show Starts 4:40 - Theme Song 5:02 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 6:05 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 15% off your first order by going to 7:15 - Invisible Dorito Mice 15:15 - The Presidential Debate 22:57 - Why We’ve Accepted Lying 30:51 - Christians Repairing Divides in Ohio 48:21 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 49:29 - Interview 53:20 - Robi’s First Act of Social Justice 1:01:28 - Vengeance and the Cycle of Violence 1:12:36 - Freed from Victimhood 1:19:17 - Where Are Things Now? 1:24:03 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: The Dye in Doritos Can Make Mice Transparent: Trump’s Lie is Another Test for Christian America: Ohio Haitians Feel Panic, Local Christians Try to Repair Divides: Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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634: The Happiness Paradox & Lessons from Life’s Last Room with Amy Low
09/11/2024
634: The Happiness Paradox & Lessons from Life’s Last Room with Amy Low
Today’s show is all about perspective. First, Phil offers his perspective on the news stories fans send him on social media about Icelandic cucumbers and water buffalos, and how they compare to articles he actually likes about robotic mushrooms and avoiding gluteal amnesia. Then, a recent article explores our culture’s focus on products, practices, and apps designed to increase our happiness, and why focusing on happiness is a sure way to miss it. And Christine Emba’s latest article in The Atlantic looks at why government support and financial incentives have failed to reverse declining birthrates in many countries. She argues the decision to have children isn’t about money but meaning. Then Amy Low shares about her memoir “The Brave In-Between” and the perspective she’s gained by living with a terminal cancer diagnosis for five years. Plus, Skye and Mike Erre have different perspectives about holiday decorations. Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview with Amy Low: 0:00 - Intro 1:52 - Show Starts 2:52 - Theme Song 3:14 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 4:19 - Sponsor - Go to and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 5:28 - Holiday Decor Disagreements 11:56 - Wounded Water Buffalo 15:11 - Tiktok Blamed for Cucumber Shortage 18:22 - Mushrooms Piloting Robot Hands 22:25 - Dead Butt Syndrome 28:09 - Does Tracking Happiness Make Us Miserable? 41:07 - Is the Decline of Birth Rates Really Economic? 58:45 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 59:52 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit to find out how to get two FREE e-learning courses and celebrate World Refugee Day with World Relief! 1:01:06 - Interview 1:06:01 - Why Did Amy Low Write The Brave In-Between? 1:10:10 - What Are the “Rooms” We Go Through in Life? 1:17:00 - The Honesty That Comes Out Near Death 1:23:10 - Where is the Meaning in Pain? 1:31:10 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Water Buffalo That Was on the Loose in Iowa Captured: Viral TikTok Video Creates Cucumber Shortage in Iceland: Robot controlled by a king oyster mushroom blends living organisms and machines: Sitting All Day Can Cause Dead Butt Syndrome: Are We Happy Yet?: The Real Reason People Aren’t Having Kids: Other resources: The Brave In-Between: Notes from the Last Room by Amy Low: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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633: The Head Covering Comeback & Unsung Heroes with Jemar Tisby
09/04/2024
633: The Head Covering Comeback & Unsung Heroes with Jemar Tisby
A very old trend is making a big comeback among Catholic women—veils. Is the turn toward head coverings rooted in Scripture, a desire for sacred symbols, a longing for traditional womanhood, or is it just a nostalgic fashion trend field by TikTok? A new study says what separates conservatives and liberals is how hierarchically they view the world and the importance of maintaining strict boundaries. And why are very conservative political personalities starting to talk more about Christian theology? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn each offer their explanations. Then, Jemar Tisby is back to talk about his new book, “The Spirit of Justice,” and the remarkable stories of heroic, but largely forgotten, Christians in American history. Also this week—hurricanes are blowing cocaine. 0:00 - Intro 2:15 - Show Starts 4:08 - Theme Song 4:30 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 5:32 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at 7:05 - The Cocaine Hurricane Strikes 11:40 - Young Catholics Wearing Veils 21:13 - Do Difference between Liberal and Conservative Come Down to Boundary Lines? 26:03 - Chesterton’s Fence and Wisdom 36:31 - Why Are Right-Wing Political Pundits Invested in Looking for Heresy? 51:31 - Threats to Conservatism Treated as Threats to Christianity 58:37 - Sponsor - Go to and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 59:42 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 1:01:02 - Interview 1:03:12 - Why Did Jemar Tisby Write The Spirit of Justice? 1:09:04 - How Jamar Tisby Gathered Theological Resources 1:16:38 - How To Be Aware of Injustice 1:20:57 - Women of the Civil Rights Movement 1:27:47 - How to Seek Justice in Your Life 1:33:09 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: The Young Catholic Women Bringing Back Veils: Many Difference between Liberals and Conservatives May Boil Down to One Belief: Other resources: The Spirit of Justice: True Stories of Faith, Race, and Resistance: https://a.co/d/dZG7UAb Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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French Friday: Are the Political Parties Trading Places?
08/30/2024
French Friday: Are the Political Parties Trading Places?
For the first time in decades, the Republican Party has removed all pro-life language from the party platform. Trump has also called for less free-trade, more government regulation, and he is indifferent about Russian aggression in Europe. At the same time, the Democratic Party is embracing patriotism, law and order, tax cuts, and retreating from its more progressive social and environmental policies. What's happening? David French and Skye Jethani discuss the realignment of the parties and whether this is a permanent change or just temporary rhetoric. Plus, French explains why he decided to endorse Kamala Harris after voting for write-in candidates in 2016 and 2020. 0:00 - Theme Song 0:17 - Episode Starts 2:20 - Would French Voting Third Party Be Just as Controversial as Voting Kamala? 14:00 - Trump Betraying Pro-Choice is No Surprise 19:50 - Are The Parties Flipping Sides? 33:45 - What Happens to the GOP When Trump Leaves? 40:50 - Is the DNC Actually Changing? 59:08 - End Credits Other resources: David French on Voting for Harris to Save Conservatism: David French's Pro-Life Case for Harris: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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632: Smartphones & Spiritual Formation with Jonathan Haidt
08/28/2024
632: Smartphones & Spiritual Formation with Jonathan Haidt
As we start a new academic year, school districts throughout the country are increasingly banning smartphones. No one is more responsible for this trend than Dr. Jonathan Haidt. He talks to Skye about his latest book, “The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness,” and how smartphones are also interfering with our spiritual lives, and what Christian communities can do about it. Also this week—Donald Trump has completely abandoned the pro-life movement, sending some conservative evangelicals into a political crisis. Chick-Fil-A is launching its own streaming network, but will you be able to watch content on Sundays? And scientists discover Phil’s new favorite deep sea worm. 0:00 - Intro 1:42 - Show Starts 5:08 - Theme Song 5:29 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 6:35 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - Brooklyn Bedding is offering up to 25% off sitewide for our listeners! Go to 8:06 - News of the Butt - The Pigbutt Worm 16:40 - Chick-Fil-A’s Streaming Service 22:55 - How Pro-Life Groups Are Responding to Trump Dropping Pro-Life Platform 26:12 - Are the Democrats and Republicans Telling the Same Story About the World? 35:46 - Does the Lack of a Pro-Life Candidate Mean Conversations About Other Issues? 43:47 - Not Into Pep Rallies 47:00 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 48:05 - Interview 50:21 - Responses to The Anxious Generation 55:29 - The Collective Action Problem 1:04:08 - Why the Partial Phone Ban in Schools Doesn’t Work 1:10:45 - How the Medium of Phones Create Loneliness 1:19:58 - How Religion Combats the Negative Effect of Phones 1:24:34 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Pigbutt Worm: Chick-Fil-A Hatches a Streaming Service: Other resources: The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness: The Anxious Generation: On The Degrading Effects of Life Online: After Babel: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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631: Evangelicals for Harris & Holy Land Theology with Gary Burge
08/21/2024
631: Evangelicals for Harris & Holy Land Theology with Gary Burge
In the last two presidential elections about 8 in 10 evangelicals voted for Donald Trump, but can Kamala Harris steal some of those votes in 2024? We discuss the recent “Evangelicals for Harris” call and why it’s so difficult to get Christians to think more theologically about politics. Ed Stetzer argues that abortion should still be a top priority when voting, and Tyler Huckabee says we should be uncomfortable endorsing any candidate. Then, Skye talks to New Testament professor, Dr. Gary Burge, about the ongoing Israeli/Palestinian conflict, and what the Bible really says about Israel’s claim on the Holy Land. 0:00 - Intro 1:30 - Show Starts and Kaitlyn’s Opinion on Vacations 4:53 - Theme Song 5:16 - Sponsor - Go to and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 6:21 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 15% off your first order by going to 12:21 - Discussing the Evangelicals for Harris Call 21:08 - Jemar Tisby and Thick vs Thin Theology 29:03 - Ed Stetzer and the Umpire Analogy 33:30 - Which Party is Better for the Pro-Life Movement? 43:40 - Phil’s TwiXter on Watching Political Conventions as a Nonpartisan 48:14 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 49:21 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 50:34 - Interview 53:22 - What Got Gary Burge Involved with the Middle East Conflict 1:00:46 - Genesis Chapter 12 and the Prosperity Gospel 1:08:28 - The Ancient Understanding of Land Ownership 1:18:22 - Orthodox Jews and Modern Israel 1:25:38 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Ed Stetzer on What’s a Pro-Life Christian to Do in This Election: Tyler Huckabee on Why He’s Not a Christian for Kamala: Other resources: Whose Land? Whose Promise?: What Christians Are Not Being Told About Israel and the Palestinians by Gary Burge: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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630: Pain & God’s Presence with Dave Gibbons
08/14/2024
630: Pain & God’s Presence with Dave Gibbons
We all hear stories of people walking away from faith because of cultural challenges and hypocrisy in the church. That’s what makes Dave Gibbons' new memoir, “The Shape of My Eyes,” so powerful. He joins Skye to talk about growing up within American fundamentalism as a mixed-race kid, and how he encountered God despite deep family trauma and church dysfunction. Also this week—Mike Erre joins the crew to talk about the ongoing fallout from Megan Basham’s new book, David French’s decision to endorse Kamala Harris, and the rise of the post-religious right. Plus, cannibal frog sermon illustrations. 0:00 - Intro 1:03 - Show Starts 3:41 - Theme Song 4:02 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to to receive 50% off your first order 5:06 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit to find out how to get two FREE e-learning courses and celebrate World Refugee Day with World Relief! 10:07 - Frog Cannibalism Sermon Illustrators 14:56 - Phil Accused by Megan Basham of Being a Sellout 22:08 - Do the Facts Matter? 28:48 - Conflating Christianity and Republican Party Issues 34:57 - David French Voting for Harris??? And Mike the Anabaptist 46:09 - The Post-Religious Right 52:14 - Sponsor - The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club - To get a Full-Size artisanal olive oil for just $1 shipping, go to 53:22 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 54:28 - Interview 56:10 - Why Did Dave Gibbons Write “The Shape of My Eyes?” 1:02:32 - How Did His Trauma Impact His Faith? 1:10:44 - Encountering God 1:22:10 - On the Verge of Renaissance 1:25:53 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Cannibal Frogs: Phil’s Article about Shepherds for Sale: David French on Why He’s Voting for Harris: Ross Douthat Tweet: Other resources: The Shape of My Eyes: A Memoir of Race, Faith, and Finding Myself by Dave Gibbons: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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629: The Politics of Division with Adam Kinzinger
08/07/2024
629: The Politics of Division with Adam Kinzinger
Donald Trump made headlines last week when he questioned Kamala Harris’s racial identity. Phil, Skye, and Esau McCaulley discuss his comments and how the politics of division often cause us to categorize people into a single box. Then, should Christians embrace the spiritual uses of psychedelic drugs? Megan Basham's new book claims progressive powerbrokers have corrupted evangelical leaders with money, praise, and prestige, but many of her citations are being called into question. Which evangelical leaders are really being seduced by money? Then former Congressman, Adam Kinzinger, sits down with Skye to talk about the relationship between Christianity and the Republican Party, what comes after Trump, and the outsized role of fear in our politics 0:00 - Intro 1:40 - Show Starts 4:06 - Theme Song 4:26 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 5:38 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to 8:36 - Esau’s Article, “Turning Black” 14:08 - Race’s Loaded Categories 21:55 - Psychedelics in Worship? 29:23 - Do We Try to Control God’s Presence? 35:00 - Shepherds for Sale 50:45 - Conforming to Agenda 54:36 - Sponsor - Pro Grace - Go to to get resources on representing God well on divisive issues 55:49 - Sponsor - The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club - To get a Full-Size artisanal olive oil for just $1 shipping, go to 56:55 - Interview 1:00:32 - When Did Kinzinger Decide to Stand Against Trump? 1:10:15 - How Powerful Political Fear Controls People 1:25:13 - The Religious Fervor Around Donald Trump 1:29:22 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: On Turning Black: Christian Psychedelic Festival: Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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French Friday: Childless Sociopaths & Evangelical Outrage
08/02/2024
French Friday: Childless Sociopaths & Evangelical Outrage
David French joins to discuss J.D. Vance's comments about "childless sociopaths," pro-natalist government policy, the Olympics's Last Supper-esque display, and Robert Downey Jr. returning to the MCU. Are anti-immigration policies actually even "preserving our culture?" And why are fundamentalists so eager to consider themselves persecuted? 0:00 - Theme Song 0:17 - Episode Starts 2:36 - J. D. Vance's "Sociopathic Childless Cat Ladies" 6:31 - Having Children and Selfishness 12:48 - Making Personal Experiences Universal 25:00 - Government's Attempts at Pro-Natalism 29:55 - The Devaluation of Immigration 37:52 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit and join The Path to help vulnerable people around the world! 38:56 - The Boredom of the Paris Olympics' Last Supper 42:54 - Does Our Peaceful Posture Affect the Discourse? 53:36 - Advice Skye Got About Criticism 1:09:27 - End Credits Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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628: Olympic Outrage & the New Testament in Color with Esau McCaulley & Amy Peeler
07/31/2024
628: Olympic Outrage & the New Testament in Color with Esau McCaulley & Amy Peeler
The opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics sparked outrage when drag queens assembled into a scene reminiscent of the Last Supper. Are Christians right to be offended? Oklahoma is requiring public schools to teach the Bible, but some teachers are resisting. Is this really about education or indoctrination? And Kaitlyn’s latest article explains why this election is important, but maybe not an “existential threat.” New Testament scholars, Esau McCaulley and Amy Peeler, discuss their new multi-ethnic Bible commentary “The New Testament in Color” and why we should read Scripture with friends from diverse backgrounds. Plus, a flip-flop fail in Death Valley. 0:00 - Intro 1:30 - Show Starts 2:50 - Theme Song 3:10 - Sponsor - The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club - To get a Full-Size artisanal olive oil for just $1 shipping, go to 4:17 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at and get 10% off 6:10 - Flip Flops in Death Valley 8:58 - Olympic Drag Queen Last Supper 23:38 - Oklahoma Bible-Education Mandate 36:53 - France vs Oklahoma 42:31 - Why Turn Down the Rhetoric on Political Panic? 48:06 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit and join The Path to help vulnerable people around the world! 48:58 - Sponsor - Go to and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 50:05 - Interview 51:45 - Where Did “The New Testament in Color” Start? 1:00:38 - Will Cultures Continue into Heaven? 1:11:23 - Why Face Hard Questions? 1:18:48 - What Are the Biblical Reasons to Study How Cultures and Ethnicities Understand Things? 1:25:15 - End Credits Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Man Who Lost Flip Flops Death Valley Hospitalization Burned Feet: Paris Olympics Organisers Apologize to Christians for Last Supper Parody: Oklahoma Superintendent Vows to Force Schools to Teach Bible, Issuing Guidance: Kaitlyn’s Article About Existential Political Rhetoric: Other resources: The New Testament in Color: A Multiethnic Bible Commentary: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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SKYEpod - SkyeDive: Certainty & Stupidity
07/26/2024
SKYEpod - SkyeDive: Certainty & Stupidity
We're sharing a SKYEpod episode that was previously exclusively for Holy Post Plus subscribers—this one's a "SkyeDive," meaning it's just Skye digging deep into a topic. If you like this episode, consider becoming a Holy Post Plus subcriber to get weekly SKYEpod episodes, merchandise, bonus interviews, and more! Skye talks about how our certainty often conflicts with humility—with disastrous results, like declining churchgoing rates, alien doomsday cults, and dead bellringers. Holy Post Plus: Other resources: Holy Post website: Holy Post Plus: Holy Post Patreon: Holy Post Merch Store: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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