The Testing Show

The Testing Show from Qualitest, explores, pokes and prods anything and everything related to testing, with new episodes released every other Wednesday. Our hosts, Matt Heusser and Michael Larsen, will analyze tried and true methodologies and practices against on trend and emerging topics. We have a range of guest contributors from Qualitest as well as industry experts from around the world to share insights, knowledge and personal experience. So take minute to find out what others are saying in the testing world. Learn more about Qualitest at https://qualitestgroup.com/

Synthetic Data in Testing 05/05/2025

Synthetic Data in Testing In this episode, Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen welcome Pat Rinaldo and Naresh Kumar Nunna to discuss the importance of synthetic test data for organizations that handle large amounts of customer data and cannot use real data due to privacy concerns. Ally Bank, working with Qualitest, has successfully leveraged synthetic data to enable faster innovation and testing for its automotive and insurance applications. Pat and Naresh discuss ways that they have been able to generate diverse and representative test data to cover a wide range of scenarios, provide significant improvements in test coverage, regression testing speed, and reduction in defects escaping to production, to allow teams to focus on innovation rather than data management and compliance. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/36435490

Women In Testing, Part 2 04/25/2025

Women In Testing, Part 2 For the second part of our Women in Testing podcast Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen welcome guest moderator Gwen Iarussi and guests Alexis Bell, Sangeetha Gururaj, and Lihi Segev to discuss the challenges faced by women leaders, and strategies for overcoming bias and creating opportunities for diverse talent, including stepping outside of their comfort zones and giving people a chance, microaggressions that women leaders face, and approaches for addressing them, as well as ways to make the first or next move in a dynamic and changing environment. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/36306355

Women In Testing, Part 1 04/15/2025

Women In Testing, Part 1 For this Episode, we welcome guest moderator Gwen Iarussi for an International take on women in testing roles from the front lines to senior management. Gwen hosts Alexis Bell, Sangeetha Gururaj, and Lihi Seghev to discuss their individual paths to success, the importance of sponsorship, mentorship, and advocating for oneself, strategies for overcoming bias and creating opportunities for diverse talent. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/36147360

Test Coaching 02/11/2025

Test Coaching Test Coaching requires understanding team dynamics, building trust, and providing tailored coaching to help testers improve their skills and address perception issues. Mike Talks joins Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen to discuss ways to assess team strengths, weaknesses, and ways of working. They focus on building rapport and a feedback culture to encourage open communication, as well as avoiding a one-size-fits-all approach to providing individualized coaching to best help them succeed. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/35241810

Sap For Utilities 2024 Reflections 10/11/2024

Sap For Utilities 2024 Reflections Qualitest recently participated in the SAP for Utilities conference in Florida and we have several key players who part of the proceedings. Matt Heusser and Michael Larsen welcome Qualitest and Tricentis regulars Rick Lesley, Ryan Williams, Kevin Flynn, and Jeff Fillegar to talk about utilities moving their SAP systems to the cloud, major digital transformation efforts with aggressive deadlines, and the need to ensure quality and minimize disruption to users and providers alike. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/33401002

Testing in the News: CrowdStrike and lessons for Testers 08/14/2024

Testing in the News: CrowdStrike and lessons for Testers CrowdStrike showed the world that problems can be found in unexpected places and can manifest in ways never intended with devastating results. While there is much pontificating about the root cause and how it happened, the point is "it happened". The popular joke of "Maybe they should have tested more" will invariably be said but what specifically does that mean? Testing Show hosts Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen welcome 1-800-CONTACTS Software Test Engineer Rachel Kibler and Qualitest CTO Vikul Gupta to discuss the various findings and speculations related to the Crowdstrike issue. We then delve into ways that testers can learn from and be better prepared for situations like this going forward, as well as leveraging next-generation technology like Generative AI to assist in the process. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/32571682

Let's Get Continuous 06/19/2024

Let's Get Continuous CI/CD is a topic that comes up a lot and many organizations profess to doing it. Are they really doing it effectively? That was the question we had in mind and to that end, Nikolay Advolodkin, staff developer advocate at Sauce Labs, joined us to talk about implementing automated software testing and improving testing practices, specifically around the CI/CD processes. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/31810177

What's new in SAP testing? 05/14/2024

What's new in SAP testing? SAP testing has its own world in the testing ecosphere. It's a huge component (or set of components) and yet there may be many who know little about it and those who are familiar may only be scratching the surface with what is happening. Daniel Do Valle, Bill Hayden, and Kenneth Small join Matt and Michael to discuss all things SAP, including AI, the future of tooling, and how to get the most out of testing SAP implementations. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/31287142

Testing with Generative AI 05/06/2024

Testing with Generative AI In this episode of The Testing Show, Matt and Michael welcome Alisha Mittal, Vice President at the Everest Group, and Vikul Gupta, CTO for Qualitest North America, about the role of generative AI in testing. We look at the current state of the market and the challenges enterprises face in adopting generative AI, and how generative AI can enhance testing efforts and improve test collateral creation. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/31138478

Cognitive Biases In Testing 03/20/2024

Cognitive Biases In Testing In this episode of The Testing Show, Michael Larsen interviews Señor Performo, Leandro Melendez, about cognitive biases and how they can affect testing. They discuss various biases such as confirmation bias, the halo effect, the sunk cost fallacy, and more. We like to think that we are immune to cognitive biases and logical fallacies because we testers prize critical thinking but as Leandro points out, you would be wrong, we are as prone to them as anyone else. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/30625043

Developing and Testing Mobile Apps With Global Teams 12/15/2023

Developing and Testing Mobile Apps With Global Teams Making the move to mobile-first application development is creating interesting challenges for co-located global teams. To this end, Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen invited Mav Turner, the CTO of Tricentis, and Smita Mishra, CEO of Fandoro, to discuss the importance of user experience, security, and the need for optimized and secure code for mobile apps. They also highlight the challenges of working with distributed global teams and provide tips for effective collaboration, such as being aware of time zones and cultural differences. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/29095193

Digital Transformation in Credit Unions 09/29/2023

Digital Transformation in Credit Unions In this episode of The Testing Show, Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen welcome Dmitriy Melnik from BCU, Sri Aravamudan from Qualitest, and Mike Mokrzycki to talk about the importance of automation and cloud technology in reducing costs and improving scalability. They also highlight the differences between commercial banks and credit unions in terms of resources and investment in technology and the importance of staying relevant and providing a high-quality member experience. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/28178735

Working Asynchronously 09/21/2023

Working Asynchronously In a time where remote work is much more normal, there is a give and take between what work can be done simultaneously and in tandem with others versus what needs to be accomplished with focused efforts on an individual basis. Caitlin Klink joins Matthew Heusser for this episode to discuss the benefits and advantages of gearing towards more asynchronous work and how enabling teams to leverage asynchronous work can help with productivity gains and better products for everyone. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/28103690

Testing For Utilities 09/13/2023

Testing For Utilities The world of Utilities is undergoing a massive shift and has been doing so for the better part of a decade. With the advent of new renewable technologies and solar at home, individuals are not only power consumers but are often producers. To this end, Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen welcome Wayne Tofteroo, Ronald Teteroo, and Scott Swanigan to discuss the changing landscape of utilities and how testing in and around them is full of unique and interesting challenges. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/28021614

Live From Agile and Beyond 08/17/2023

Live From Agile and Beyond Recently, our show host Matt Heusser headed out to Detroit to participate in the Agile and Beyond Conference being held there. In the process, he gathered together several contributors and testing experts including Holly Bielawa, Damian Synadinos, and Jeff MacBane to discuss areas such as Emotions in Testing, Product Coaching and why its difficult, and how we can just be excited about doing testing well in this day and age. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/27779448

AI in Testing 07/27/2023

AI in Testing We've had a chance to focus on a great deal of speculation and interest in Artificial Intelligence models over the past several shows and for this episode, we asked Dan Geater to join Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen to help get to the bottom of what AI is actually doing, why the spike in interest, and how testers can prepare and benefit from the AI gold rush currently underway. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/27581688

The ROI on Testing 07/14/2023

The ROI on Testing We can talk all day long about the importance of quality and testing but for many, this question will always come down to "How much is this going to cost?" Is this expense in quality and testing really worth it? To that end, Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen invited Nabhanshu Bambi and Curtis Stuehrenberg to join us and discuss the true costs and the Return on Investment that testing can provide both in the short and long terms of projects and teams. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/27463956

The Testing Show: Qualipride 06/20/2023

The Testing Show: Qualipride In celebration of June being Pride month, The Testing Show is doing a special program focusing on “Qualipride”, which is the Employee Resource Group (ERG) for LGBTQ+ identifying employees and their allies. To discuss this, our guest host Fiona Dawson joins Bleighton Eppard, Jessica Hose, Miguel Urdinola, Mafalda Chambel, and Elizabeth Argall to discuss how Qualipride champions diversity and that diversity benefits Qualitest in its entirety. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/27205605

Enhancing the Reality within Virtual Reality with Q Analysts 04/26/2023

Enhancing the Reality within Virtual Reality with Q Analysts In this episode, the metaverse and VR become more and more present and active. To that end it makes sense that there are companies working towards making those interactions as usable and seamless as possible. To that end, Ross Fernandes, Vikul Gupta and Prem Vishwanathan join Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen to talk about ways that the virtual and the real are coming together and why it's an exciting place for a tester to potentially be. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/26634825

ChatGPT and Testing Jobs 04/16/2023

ChatGPT and Testing Jobs For today's show, Beth Marshall and Chris Kenst return to continue the ChatGPT conversation, and today's focus is on what effect, if any, Chat GPT may have on testing jobs. Is it a job killer as some fear, or is it yet another tool that will aid the smart and effective tester in being more effective? /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/26602176

Data Management and Analytics 03/27/2023

Data Management and Analytics Software testing covers a lot of areas. Perhaps one of the most important, yet often overlooked, is the quality of the data that is both part of testing and the actual business. To that end Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen welcome Naren Yalamanchilli, David Small, and Ken Wrem to talk about Datagaps, a company that is focused on making sure that Data Management and Data Analytics are in place so that companies can make sure that they have the best data possible to do business successfully. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/26350323

ChatGPT for Testers 03/15/2023

ChatGPT for Testers In the past several months, ChatGPT has been getting a lot of attention as a new cool tool that everyone is talking about. It can generate song lyrics on the fly. It can create code to solve problems and be compiled. Still, do we really understand what it is and what it can or can't do? To that end, Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen welcome Ted Ariaga, Chris Kenst, and Beth Marshall to talk about ChatGPT, especially as it interests the world of software testing, and explore areas where it is ready for prime time and where it is not, or at least, not yet. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/26789277

The Testing Show: Assessing Quality Practices 01/18/2023

The Testing Show: Assessing Quality Practices Agile Testing and some would say Modern Testing is built around understanding the processes and quality practices necessary to deliver a quality product to customers. How do we know if the practices our company or organization is using actually deliver what we hope them to. To help answer that, Selena Delesie and Janet Gregory join Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen to talk about their new book "Assessing Agile Practices With the Quality Practices Assessment Model (QPAM)" and help determine if the practices an organization is using are effective and ultimately will help deliver quality products in the first place. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/25823862

The Testing Show: A Tester Walks Through Product Ownership 12/21/2022

The Testing Show: A Tester Walks Through Product Ownership Many individuals on the team have a vested interest in what the tester provides and reports on. One such important team member is the product owner, who can wear many hats in an organization and represent many different perspectives. In this episode, Holly Bielawa joins Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen to talk about the world of the product owner, their involvement with the organization, and their view of the world and their interaction with QA and testing. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/25522995

The Testing Show: The Deeper Things of Testing, Part 2 12/07/2022

The Testing Show: The Deeper Things of Testing, Part 2 In this second part of a two-part series, Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen continue their conversation with Perze Ababa, Jon Bach, and Jen Crichlow to discuss the broader ideas of testing, specifically the areas of advocacy and addressing situations that are important to people who matter. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/25511763

The Testing Show: The Deeper Things of Testing, Part 1 11/23/2022

The Testing Show: The Deeper Things of Testing, Part 1 In this first of a two-part series, Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen welcome Perze Ababa, Jon Bach, and Jen Crichlow to discuss the broader ideas of testing, and to ask, "Are there areas of software testing that deserve greater attention? /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/25501626

The Testing Show: Curating Your Testing Career 11/09/2022

The Testing Show: Curating Your Testing Career When it comes to Software Testing, there is no guarantee that what a tester is doing today will resemble what they are doing five or ten years from now, or if they will still be involved in software testing. Many people come and go, while others make it a point to be "lifers" in the software testing industry. Still, even for the so-called lifers, there is a broad array of options and opportunities for career growth and development. Where to go and how to get there are the broader questions. Michael Larsen sits down and talks with Vernon Richards and Leandro Melendez at the Pacific Northwest Software Quality Conference (PNSQC). held in Portland, Oregon, USA in October, 2022. They discuss the challenges and opportunities available to software testers, as well as the responsibility of curating their own testing careers, both in the work they are doing now and the work they might want to do going forward. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/24981438

The Testing Show: Intelligent Testing 10/26/2022

The Testing Show: Intelligent Testing For years, organizations have lured their time talent and resources into Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment efforts, with an additional goal to apply these principals to Continuous Testing. Still, often these efforts can one wasteful and take much more time than is necessary. Vijet Honnavar and Vikul Gupta join Matthew Heusser to discuss ideas of focusing on eliminating waste and taking a more “Intelligent” approach to testing and focusing efforts on needful and necessary areas and less on areas that have not changed or been affected by updates. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/24817035

The Testing Show: Program Management 10/12/2022

The Testing Show: Program Management Software testing and program management share many of the same skills and what helps make a software tester effective can also be applied to the world of Program Management and how to be effective in that role. To that end, Jon Bach joins Matt Heusser to talk about his entry and involvement in the software testing world and his current involvement in the Program Management space, and how software testers can help and work effectively with Program Management. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/24673929

The Testing Show: Testing AI and Machine Learning 09/28/2022

The Testing Show: Testing AI and Machine Learning Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning have often taken on a near-mythical status in the software development pantheon as of late. Of course, ask ten people what AI and Machine Learning mean and you're likely to get at least twenty different answers. Understanding how and what to test surrounding it thus becomes daunting. To help demystify this topic, Jen Crichlow joins Matthew Heusser and Michael Larsen to discuss developments in the AI and ML space and how to make sense of the myriad options and, more important, considerations around how to test these technologies. /episode/index/show/thetestingshow/id/24543981

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