The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world's greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify's Daniel Ek, Linkedin's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman. If you would like to see more of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC), head to www.20vc.com for more information on the podcast, show notes, resources and more.

20VC: OpenAI and Anthropic Threatened by Kimi? | Should the US Ban Chinese Open-Source Models | Should Openrouter Sell & Value in the Routing Layer? | Stripe Buying Paypal: What You Need to Know 07/23/2026

20VC: Are OpenAI and Anthropic Overvalued? The Open-Source AI Reality | How Token Costs Will Fall 10x And Usage Will Explode 100x | The Future Is Not One AGI; It’s Millions of Specialised Models with Lin Qiao, Founder and CEO @ Fireworks 07/20/2026

20VC: $5BN in Revenue, 7 to 7,000 Employees in 9 Months, 206,000 Tests in a Single Day: The Craziest Story in Startups: Curative with Fred Turner 07/18/2026

20VC: Apple Sues OpenAI | Zuckerberg Back on X and Challenging Codex and Claude Code | SK Hynix's $26BN IPO | Is Seed Investing Dead: Jason Calacanis Departs Seed for Growth | Greylock Raises New $1.5BN Fund 07/16/2026

20VC: Wix's Founder on What Wall St Gets Wrong About AI and Wix | Will Base44 Win the Vibe Coding Wars | The Truth About the Economics of Vibe-Coding | The Buyback Disaster: Lessons Learned with Avishai Abrahami 07/13/2026

20VC: Why OpenAI and Anthropic Won't Win the App Layer | Why Teams Will Get Bigger Not Smaller in a World of AI | Why AI Removes Incumbents Advantage of Bundling | China vs America: Who Wins the AI War with Arvind Jain, Co-Founder @ Glean 07/11/2026

20VC: Sam Altman Offers Trump 5% of OpenAI: Fool or Genius? | Alex Karp Sounds the Alarm: Enterprises Fear Frontier Models & Questionable ROI of AI | The Rise of Chinese Open Source: Deepseek Building Own Chips 07/09/2026

20VC: Why Now is the Time for the Application Layer | Why OpenAI & Anthropic Won't Win the App Layer | Why Startups Should be TokenMaxxing | Why VCs Should Reduce Weighting on Price & Ownership in an Age of AI with Mike Mignano, USV 07/06/2026

20VC: Open Models vs Frontier Models: Who Actually Wins? | The $100,000 Token Budget Every Engineer Will Need | Why Forward-Deployed Engineers Are the Future of Enterprise AI with Clay Bavor, Co-Founder of Sierra 07/04/2026

20VC: Dario and Anthropic Declare War on Open-Source | Coinbase Slash AI Spend by 50% | Kalshi's $40BN Valuation and Impending IPO | Bending Spoons: Smartest IPO of 2026 and the Year for SaaS Roll-Ups 07/02/2026

20VC: Leo Aschenbrenner's Largest Holding: Inside the $90BN Bloom Energy | Why Electricity, Not AI Models, Will Decide the Winners of the AI Race | Why We Are Not in an AI Capex Bubble | Energy Sovereignty and The Future of Power with KR Sridhar 06/29/2026

20VC: How We Got Fred Wilson, Benchmark and Index to Invest $94M | Why Robinhood's Strategy is Wrong | Why 1-1s are BS and What Every Founder Gets Wrong About Equity | Why Taste Beats AI But How AI Kills Org Charts with Paul Erlanger, CEO @ fomo 06/27/2026

20VC: Deepseek Raises $50BN | Wall St's $725BN AI Question | The Rise of Open Source & How it Threatens OpenAI & Anthropic | OpenAI Builds it's Own Chip: Jalapeno | The Death of Moats & The New AI Software Winners 06/25/2026

20VC: Nikesh Arora on the Frontier Model Problem: Breadth vs Depth | The Future of Token Costs | Memory Becoming the Moat | Where Value Accrues: Infra, Models, or Apps? | Why Enterprise AI is Not Ready & Systems of Record vs Systems of Intelligence Nikesh Arora is the Chairman and CEO of Palo Alto Networks, the global cybersecurity leader. Since taking over in 2018, he has transformed the company from an $18 billion market cap business into one worth more than $225BN with more than 21,000 employees globally. Previously, Nikesh was President and COO of SoftBank, where he worked alongside Masayoshi Son and helped shape the firm's technology investment strategy. AGENDA: 00:00 Why AI Token Prices Will Fall 90% — And Why That's Bullish for AI 07:40 The Frontier Model Problem: Breadth vs Depth in AI 11:30 Most Enterprises Are Using AI Completely Wrong 13:10 Why AI Could Cut Marketing, HR & Finance Teams in Half 16:00 AI Applications Will Have Opinions — SaaS Never Did 20:00 OpenAI, Anthropic & The Most Important Valuation Question in Tech 24:00 The Real Business Model of AI: Transaction Revenue Beats Advertising 25:10 Why Token Prices Must Collapse 28:20 Where Value Actually Accrues in AI: Models, Memory or Apps? 29:00 Why Memory Becomes the Biggest Moat in AI 32:00 Why Every Enterprise Should Be Scared Right Now 33:15 Should Governments Regulate Frontier AI Models? 37:10 Why Brian Armstrong's AI-First Playbook Doesn't Work Everywhere 40:00 The Biggest AI Mistake CEOs Are Making Today 42:00 How Nikesh Creates Darwinian Competition Inside Palo Alto 43:00 Do AI Companies Really Need Forward-Deployed Engineers? 45:00 Why Enterprise AI Products Still Aren't Ready 52:00 Systems of Record vs Systems of Intelligence: The Future of Software 54:00 Why AI Applications Will Replace Traditional SaaS Workflows 58:00 What Nikesh Learned From Google That Still Matters Today 1:04:00 From $200 and Two Suitcases to Running a $225B Company 1:10:00 Happiness, Gratitude and Why Tomorrow Matters More Than Ten Years From Now /episode/index/show/thetwentyminutevc/id/41714470

20VC: Why Remote Work is White Collar Fraud | Why Revenge and Patriotism are the Best Founder Traits | Two Questions Every Founder Needs to Ask | The Wild Story of Raising $1BN from Masa Son in an Hour Long Meeting with Ryan Peterson, Founder @ Flexport 06/20/2026

20VC: SpaceX Soars to $2.7TRN | Anthropic's Fable Banned by US Government | Wix and Adobe Hit All-Time Lows | Mistral Raising at $20BN and The Case for Sovereign Models | Fin Acquired by Salesforce for $3.6BN 06/18/2026

20VC: Micron Will Be More Valuable Than Meta | How Export Controls Helped Not Hurt China | Power is the Bottleneck to AI | Why Dario Has Done a Disservice to AI with his Labour Replacement Messaging with Aravind Srinivas, Founder @ Perplexity 06/15/2026

20VC: Who Wins the Model War: OpenAI, Anthropic or Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning | Labour Displacement Fears are BS & Overblown | From Physicist to Sequoia Founder with Matan Grinberg, Founder @ Factory 06/13/2026

20VC: SpaceX Launches Largest Ever IPO | OpenAI Files to Go Public | Uber Cuts 23% of HR | Lovable Hits $500M ARR | Founders Revolt Against VCs: The Fundraising Horror Stories Going Viral 06/11/2026

20VC: Nebius Co-Founder on AI Infrastructure Bubbles | The Real Impact of Open Source on OpenAI & Anthropic | How Price Elastic is Demand for Compute | Could Nebius Sell 10x More Compute If They Had It & more with Roman Chernin 06/08/2026

20Product: Inside Legora’s Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora 06/06/2026

20VC: Anthropic Files to Go Public | Token Budgeting Panic Hits Corporate America | Cognition Raises $1BN at $26BN Valuation | Apollo Warns PE Software Returns Will be Disastrous | The 9-9-6 Work Ethic: Performative Theatre or Startup Reality? 06/04/2026

20VC: Mercor CEO on Why Application Layer Companies Have No Defensibility, The Model is the Product | Token Spend Will Exceed Headcount Spend in 5 Years | The True Cost of Hiring AI Researchers in the Valley Today with Brendan Foody Brendan Foody is the Founder and CEO @ Mercor, one of the leading data providers to the largest labs on the planet including OpenAI. In the last two years, Brendan has scaled the company to $1.5BN in ARR and a valuation of $10BN. AGENDA: True or False: Mercor lost Meta and OpenAI as a customer with the hack? Mercor has been poaching competitor talent, paying them millions? Mercor revenue is not real revenue and is only GMV? 12:56 Would Brendan sell Mercor for $30 billion? 14:23 Why everyone is wrong that AI will lead to labor displacement? 15:59 We will create many new jobs that do not exist with AI. 16:59 Why training agents will be a massive labor category that does not exist today 19:51 Will we see the data provider market unbundle and specialize into verticals? 22:24 Is the stated revenue really revenue or is it really GMV? 27:55 How a 1 million ARR company secured one of the best investors in the world with a helicopter ride 29:41 How Felicis secured the deal of the decade with a race track and a set of Ferraris 32:59 Which investment round felt like the highest price to grow into? 34:49 Why will value accrue to the infrastructure layer, not the application layer, in the next 12 months? 35:46 Why the model is the product and why application layer companies should be scared as a result 37:22 Why network effects will be the determinant of value creation 38:46 Why the forward-deployed motion, not the GTM motion, will determine true value creation. 41:59 Why token spend within organizations is going to continue to increase 43:54 Why agent evaluation to commoditize the model layer will be a massive business for enterprises? 51:13 Why we should have increased capital gains tax 01:01:31 How to compete with $20 million a year from Meta? 01:08:49 Will Mercor go public and when? /episode/index/show/thetwentyminutevc/id/41484670

20VC: Corgi Insurance: The Most Intense Workplace Culture in America: 7 Days Per Week, Founder Sleeps in Office, Corgi Cafe Open 24 Hours a Day, 60% of First 30 Employees Have Corgi Tattoos | The Journey from $0 to $2.6BN Valuation in Just 2 Years 05/30/2026

20VC: OpenAI & SpaceX S1 Drops | NVIDIA's $81BN Revenue Quarter | Cloudflare and ClickUp Do Controversial Layoffs | Exa, OpenRouter and Polsia Raise Mega Rounds | Uber and Microsoft Declare AI ROI for Developers is Questionable 05/28/2026

20VC: Cerebras CEO on the Future of Data Centres, Token Costs and Memory | We are Not in an Infra Bubble & Dario Got a Bad Deal with Elon for Compute | Should US Companies Sell to China & Why Most Layoffs are AI Washed with Andrew Feldman 05/26/2026

20Sales: The $100M CRO Bubble: Why Anthropic Are Causing a Comp Crisis | Why You Should Never Hire From Salesforce or Service Now | How to Hire, Train and Forecase in a World of AI with Chad Peets and Chris Degnan 05/23/2026

20VC: Andrej Karpathy Joins Anthropic & Anthropic Raises $30BN at $900BN Price | SpaceX Files S1: How Does it Trade | Cerebras Smashes Day 1: What it Means for IPOs | Why Mass Layoffs Are More Worrying Than Anyone Sees 05/21/2026

20VC: Turning Peter Thiel's $100K into $10M Angel Portfolio | The One Man Accelerator at The Four Seasons | Why VCs Can Be Sharks and What Founders Need to Know | Why Stocks and Cash are BS and You Should Invest in Land with Josh Browder Josh Browder is my favourite emerging manager. As the Founder of Browder Capital he has been the first check into unicorns like Micro1, and Yuzu Health to name a few. He turned his Thiel Fellowship Grant of $100K into a whopping $10M angel portfolio. All new investments move into Josh’s Four Seasons Residence where he then trains them on company building. They are only allowed to leave when they raise their seed round. In addition to this, Josh is the Founder & CEO @ DoNotPay, the now profitable company that has raised $22M from Marc Andreessen and others. AGENDA: 00:00 Why I believe young founders make the best founders 02:10 What do I look for in founders I’m investing in? 10:00 How I test for founder commitment pre-investment 11:00 What do I want to see in the childhoods of the entrepreneurs that I back? 12:05 Why I make founders live with me in my Four Seasons residence after investing 14:00 There are three reasons why pre-seed companies fail and how I solve for them 15:45 What do I look for in a team to assure me they will last? 16:50 Is $5 million post still attainable in this world? 17:15 Should we be worried about the increasing levels of fraud at the early stages? 18:10 Which Silicon Valley investor was the most impressive? 20:00 Do VCs really add value? 20:50 Does university carry less value than ever and should founders drop out if they have a dream and an idea? 24:00 The advice of one lawyer changed the entire trajectory of this multi-million dollar company 28:10 I would never invest in someone that I met over Zoom 29:20 Are all the best founders you invest in delusional? 31:10 What is the biggest benefit of being a Thiel Fellow? 36:20 The problem of accelerators and why artificial constraints can enforce quality 38:20 How we used Mark Zuckerberg’s house as a viewing instrument tool to get users 41:20 My pre-seed cheque in Micro One is now worth hundreds of millions and my lessons 43:20 The biggest mistake VCs are making in assessing founders 44:10 Why I will never tell the entrepreneur what to build and why I place little value on ideas 47:00 Why kingmaking is real and why you should accept half the price from a tier one firm 49:00 My biggest lessons on reserve investing 53:00 Why price rounds are bullshit and we should do more SAFEs 54:20 What all founders need to know about signing with a VC 55:10 Single biggest advice to founders on how to get the best price 57:30 What role does not exist today that will be massive in five years' time? 59:10 Stocks are bullshit. Cash is bullshit. I put my money in land. My personal investing strategy 1:01:00 Why the Trump administration is unwaveringly good for US business 1:03:20 Why competitive markets are the best investments 1:05:40 The serendipity of San Francisco is unmatched 1:08:10 What things does no one know about Marc Andreessen that everyone should know? /episode/index/show/thetwentyminutevc/id/41316890

20VC: Lessons from Jensen Huang on "Founder Mode" | How to Know if OpenAI or Anthropic Will Kill your Company | How USV Liking Music Made Them $1BN on an Investment | The Five Year Desert to Product Market Fit & a $5.3BN Valuation with Shiv Rao @ Abridge 05/16/2026

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

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