Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness

Life is complicated, and quick fixes won’t address the deeper challenges you face in your mental, emotional, and spiritual health. "Win Today" provides practical guidance for lasting growth. Each week, you’ll hear from trusted leaders and experts who offer wisdom, insights, and a durable plan to help you overcome obstacles and create real, sustainable change. This isn’t about temporary solutions—it’s about building a foundation for transformation and maturity from the inside out.

476: [Formed.] Spiritual But Not Religious? Lisa Bevere on What an Exorcist Said About Tarot and Oracle Cards, How the Progressive Movement is Connected to Self-Deification, and Why The Church is Too Comfortable Preaching Catchy Phrases We live in a moment where spiritual language is everywhere, but formation is rare. Many people claim to be spiritual while rejecting authority, truth, and discipline. Others consume sermons built on slogans rather than Scripture, leaving their faith thin, sentimental, and easily shaken. The result is a generation that feels awakened but remains unformed. This week on Win Today, Lisa Bevere joins me for the final installment of the [Formed.] discipleship series to confront the cost of being spiritual but not anchored in truth. We talk about the rise of tarot and oracle cards, what an exorcist revealed about their spiritual danger, how progressive theology often drifts toward self-deification, and why the church has grown far too comfortable preaching phrases instead of the Word. This conversation is not reactionary; it is corrective. If you’re hungry for real formation, grounded truth, and a faith that can withstand deception, offense, and cultural pressure, this episode brings the series to its necessary conclusion. Guest Bio Lisa Bevere is a bestselling author, speaker, and co-founder of Messenger International. Known for her prophetic clarity and uncompromising commitment to Scripture, Lisa has spent decades calling believers to spiritual maturity, courage, and wholehearted devotion to Jesus. Her books and teaching reach a global audience, challenging cultural Christianity and inviting the church back to truth, holiness, and biblical authority. Show Partners We spend a third of our lives asleep, so stop treating your bed like an afterthought. Cozy Earth’s Bamboo Sheets are a game-changer. They’re silky smooth, breathable, and cool to the touch. And they’re more than bedding; Cozy Earth also makes bath essentials, pajamas, and men’s and women’s loungewear designed to bring calm and comfort to everyday life. Try their sheets risk-free with a 100-Night Sleep Trial and a 10-Year Warranty. Start the New Year right. Head to cozyearth.com and use code WINTODAY for up to 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, tell them you heard about Cozy Earth on Win Today. Episode Links Buy my book "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39900125

475: [Formed.] Are You Suffering? Dr. Craig Keener on The Necessary Theology of Suffering, How to Develop a New Mindset About Affliction, Hurdling Unresolved Disappointment, Why God is Not in a Hurry to Mature Us, and the Pressure That Shapes Us Suffering exposes what we believe about God faster than success ever could. When affliction lingers, disappointment goes unresolved, and growth feels slower than we want, the question isn’t whether God is present—it’s whether our theology can carry the weight of real life. Too many believers inherit a framework that collapses under pressure, leaving them confused, bitter, or quietly disillusioned. This week on Win Today, Dr. Craig Keener joins me to rebuild a theology of suffering that can endure. We talk about why God is not in a hurry to mature us, how pressure actually forms spiritual resilience, and what it looks like to develop a mindset about affliction that produces endurance rather than erosion. This conversation doesn’t minimize pain—it gives it meaning. If you’re suffering, stalled, or carrying disappointment you haven’t known how to name, this episode will help you reframe affliction as formation and discover the kind of maturity that only pressure can produce. Guest Bio Dr. Craig Keener is a leading New Testament scholar, historian, and theologian whose work has shaped global conversations on Scripture, the Holy Spirit, miracles, and suffering. He has authored dozens of academic and popular-level books and has taught and lectured internationally, bringing rigorous scholarship together with pastoral sensitivity and lived faith. Show Partners We spend a third of our lives asleep, so stop treating your bed like an afterthought. Cozy Earth’s Bamboo Sheets are a game-changer. They’re silky smooth, breathable, and cool to the touch. And they’re more than bedding; Cozy Earth also makes bath essentials, pajamas, and men’s and women’s loungewear designed to bring calm and comfort to everyday life. Try their sheets risk-free with a 100-Night Sleep Trial and a 10-Year Warranty. Start the New Year right. Head to cozyearth.com and use code WINTODAY for up to 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, tell them you heard about Cozy Earth on Win Today. SafeSleeve designs a phone case that blocks up to 99% of harmful EMF radiation—so I’m not carrying that kind of exposure next to my body all day. It’s sleek, durable, and most importantly, lab-tested by third parties. The results aren’t hidden—they’re published right on their site. And that matters, because a lot of so-called EMF blockers on the market either don’t work or can’t prove they do. We protect our hearts and minds—why wouldn’t we protect our bodies too? Head to and use the code WINTODAY10 for 10% off your order. Episode Links Buy my book "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39803950

474: [Formed.] It’s Just LAZY Christianity. Ian Simkins on The Fingerprints of a Disordered Life, Developing Discernment as You Train for Godliness, Why the Crucible of Formation is in the Monotony of Everyday Life, and Restoring the Fire of Discipleshi Spiritual drift rarely announces itself. It doesn’t show up as rebellion or collapse. It shows up as subtle disorder, numbed discernment, and a slow loss of fire in the ordinary rhythms of life. Most people don’t abandon discipleship; they simply stop training for it. This week on Win Today, Ian Simkins, lead pastor of The Bridge Church in Tennessee, joins me as part of our Formed discipleship series to expose the quiet ways formation breaks down and to recover the daily practices that restore spiritual clarity, hunger, and endurance. We talk about why the wilderness of everyday life—not the mountaintop—is where God does His deepest work, and how discernment must be trained intentionally if we’re going to mature in godliness. If your faith feels cluttered, distracted, or quietly cooling, this conversation will help you recognize the fingerprints of disorder and reclaim the fire of discipleship to Jesus, right where you are. Guest Bio Ian Simkins is the lead pastor of The Bridge Church in Tennessee and a longtime pastor and teacher focused on spiritual formation, discernment, and everyday discipleship. Known for practical, Scripture-rooted teaching, he equips believers to develop resilient faith through disciplined rhythms, community, and faithful obedience to Jesus. Show Partner We spend a third of our lives asleep, so stop treating your bed like an afterthought. Cozy Earth’s Bamboo Sheets are a game-changer. They’re silky smooth, breathable, and cool to the touch. And they’re more than bedding; Cozy Earth also makes bath essentials, pajamas, and men’s and women’s loungewear designed to bring calm and comfort to everyday life. Try their sheets risk-free with a 100-Night Sleep Trial and a 10-Year Warranty. Start the New Year right. Head to cozyearth.com and use code WINTODAY for up to 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, tell them you heard about Cozy Earth on Win Today. Episode Links Buy my book "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39690655

473: [Formed.] Comfort Won’t Mature You. Dr. Joel Tudman on How We Cheat Ourselves in the Wilderness, Why “Finding Yourself” is a Waste of Time, The Beauty of Being Pulled Apart by the Lord, and Fighting to Stay Agile in a Disruptive Life Comfort feels kind, but it keeps you immature. The wilderness is where God trains you for weight, yet most of us cheat the process by numbing pain, curating outcomes, and calling it wisdom, while our souls atrophy. This week on Win Today, Dr. Joel Tudman joins me to expose why “finding yourself inside yourself” is a dead end, how the Lord sometimes pulls us apart to make us whole, and how to stay spiritually agile when life is disruptive. If your faith has been built around feelings, not formation. And if you’re tired of circling the same mountain with better language, this conversation will call you back to training for godliness, where it actually happens: in the desert. Guest Bio Dr. Joel A. Tudman is a pastor, communicator, and leadership coach who equips people to trade comfort for formation and preference for obedience. Known for clear, high-energy preaching and practical frameworks for spiritual growth, he serves churches and leaders across the country, training teams in character, resilience, and Spirit-led discipline. His work centers on courage, identity, and purpose, calling believers to be formed, not performed. Show Partners We spend a third of our lives asleep, so stop treating your bed like an afterthought. Cozy Earth’s Bamboo Sheets are a game-changer. They’re silky smooth, breathable, and cool to the touch. And they’re more than bedding; Cozy Earth also makes bath essentials, pajamas, and men’s and women’s loungewear designed to bring calm and comfort to everyday life. Try their sheets risk-free with a 100-Night Sleep Trial and a 10-Year Warranty. Start the New Year right. Head to cozyearth.com and use code WINTODAY for up to 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, tell them you heard about Cozy Earth on Win Today. Episode Links Buy my book "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39607100

472: [Formed.] Will You Kill Entitlement and Self-Pity? Kristene DiMarco Unpacks Rekindling Spiritual Hunger, The Danger in Numbing Boredom, Training Your Soul for Godliness, and Laying Down Your “Right” to Be Offended by Life There’s a reason your hunger fades when life gets busy and your soul gets loud: boredom becomes a shortcut to numbing, entitlement masquerades as discernment, and self-pity convinces you that endurance is optional. This week on Win Today, Bethel Music’s Kristene DiMarco joins me to confront the quiet habits that starve spiritual hunger and to show us how to train the soul when worship feels flat, prayer drags, and offense stands in the doorway of growth. We talk about the discipline of boredom, the anatomy of hunger, why entitlement and self-pity atrophy endurance, and how to lay down your “right” to be offended by everything in life so true formation can continue. If you feel dulled by distraction, easily offended, or tired of mistaking relief for transformation, this conversation will call you back to the long road of love. Guest Bio Kristene DiMarco is a songwriter and worship leader with Bethel Music, known for penning and recording modern hymns and congregational anthems and for leading worship at churches and conferences around the world. Her albums and collaborations with Bethel Music and Jesus Culture have introduced a wide range of songs to the global church, and she continues to write and lead with a focus on honest lyrics, theological clarity, and resilient faith. Show Partners We spend a third of our lives asleep, so stop treating your bed like an afterthought. Cozy Earth’s Bamboo Sheets are a game-changer. They’re silky smooth, breathable, and cool to the touch. And they’re more than bedding; Cozy Earth also makes bath essentials, pajamas, and men’s and women’s loungewear designed to bring calm and comfort to everyday life. Try their sheets risk-free with a 100-Night Sleep Trial and a 10-Year Warranty. Start the New Year right. Head to cozyearth.com and use code WINTODAY for up to 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, tell them you heard about Cozy Earth on Win Today. SafeSleeve designs a phone case that blocks up to 99% of harmful EMF radiation—so I’m not carrying that kind of exposure next to my body all day. It’s sleek, durable, and most importantly, lab-tested by third parties. The results aren’t hidden—they’re published right on their site. And that matters, because a lot of so-called EMF blockers on the market either don’t work or can’t prove they do. We protect our hearts and minds—why wouldn’t we protect our bodies too? Head to and use the code WINTODAY10 for 10% off your order. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39585260

471: [Formed.] Take Responsibility for YOUR Spiritual Growth. Dr. Eric Mason on The Greatest Problem with Bad Teaching (That Few Recognize), Why You Can’t Give God Ultimatums, and Why You Can’t Make Your Assignment Your Purpose You can admire spiritual maturity from a distance, or you can take your formation journey seriously. Many of us prefer the former. We outsource growth to personalities, call delayed obedience “wisdom,” and bargain with God when surrender would cost too much. This week on Win Today, Dr. Eric Mason joins me to confront the quiet drift that hollows discipleship: the consumer posture that fuels bad teaching, the spiritual immaturity that bargains with God, and the confusion that happens when we make our assignment our purpose. If your faith has been built around sermons more than Scripture, preferences more than practices, or outcomes more than obedience, this conversation is your invitation to grow up on purpose, with the Spirit, for the long road of holiness. Guest Bio Dr. Eric Mason is the founder and lead pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia and the founder/president of Thriving, an urban ministry training leaders for city contexts. A pastor-theologian for nearly three decades, he has preached and trained nationally and internationally and authored several books. He holds a B.S. in Psychology (Bowie State), a Th.M. from Dallas Theological Seminary—where he was mentored by Dr. Tony Evans at Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship—and a D.Min. from Gordon-Conwell. Eric and his wife, Yvette, live in Philadelphia with their four children: Immanuel, Nehemiah, Ephraim, and Amalyah. Show Partner We spend a third of our lives asleep, so stop treating your bed like an afterthought. Cozy Earth’s Bamboo Sheets are a game-changer. They’re silky smooth, breathable, and cool to the touch. And they’re more than bedding; Cozy Earth also makes bath essentials, pajamas, and men’s and women’s loungewear designed to bring calm and comfort to everyday life. Try their sheets risk-free with a 100-Night Sleep Trial and a 10-Year Warranty. Start the New Year right. Head to cozyearth.com and use code WINTODAY for up to 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, tell them you heard about Cozy Earth on Win Today. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39577710

470: I Didn't See THAT Coming: What Happens When We Hit the Wall, Why God’s Silence Isn’t His Absence, and the 4 CRITICAL Words You Must Embody in 2026 12/30/2025

469: Your Body Is Telling the Truth. Jordan Rubin on The Food That Kills Your Sex Drive in Minutes, Whether EMFs are Dangerous, How to Get Sick Quickly, and Why Physical Health is Spiritual Health This week on Win Today, Jordan Rubin reveals how the body doesn’t lie—and why the ancient wisdom of Scripture contains the keys to healing not just physically, but mentally and emotionally as well. After nearly dying from severe Crohn’s disease, Jordan discovered that health isn’t compartmentalized. Everything is connected—gut to brain, body to soul. And that the Bible had already mapped out the blueprint for healing. If you’ve tried to fix your body but stayed anxious… if you’ve addressed trauma but still feel inflamed… or if you’re wondering why prayer isn’t reversing depression, this episode will rewire your entire framework for healing and longevity. Guest Bio Jordan Rubin is one of America’s most respected natural health experts and bestselling authors. After nearly dying from severe Crohn’s disease at 19, Jordan discovered a life-saving health plan rooted in ancient biblical nutrition and supported by modern science. He’s the founder of Ancient Nutrition and the New York Times bestselling author of The Maker’s Diet. His latest book, The Biblio Diet, explores how God’s original design for eating, moving, and living is the roadmap to lasting health. Jordan’s message bridges faith and science to help people heal from the inside out. Show Partner SafeSleeve designs a phone case that blocks up to 99% of harmful EMF radiation—so I’m not carrying that kind of exposure next to my body all day. It’s sleek, durable, and most importantly, lab-tested by third-party laboratories. The results aren’t hidden—they’re published right on their site. And that matters, because a lot of so-called EMF blockers on the market either don’t work or can’t prove they do. We protect our hearts and minds—why wouldn’t we protect our bodies too? Visit and use code WINTODAY10 for 10% off your order. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39402710

468: LEVEL UP! Zach Windahl on the Unified Story of Scripture, Why “Belong Before You Believe” Fails, and How to Study Scripture When You’re Bored or Confused 12/10/2025

468: LEVEL UP! Zach Windahl on the Unified Story of Scripture, Why “Belong Before You Believe” Fails, and How to Study Scripture When You’re Bored or Confused You love Jesus, and you want to love the Bible, but most days, life crowds it out. And when you do open the text, it can feel confusing, disjointed, even offensive; so you reach for personalities who make it feel easier. The problem is that celebrity clarity often replaces biblical clarity. This week on Win Today, Zach Windahl—creator of The Bible Study and founder of The Brand Sunday—joins me to recover the unified story of Scripture and to challenge a popular church slogan: “belong before you believe.” Belonging matters, but the New Testament’s pattern is belief that forms a people, not a people that replaces belief. We’ll name the most common study mistakes, walk a simple observation–interpretation–application path, and give you a way to read when you’re bored, confused, or offended—so you meet the Lord in the words he actually inspired. Guest Bio Zach Windahl is the author of The Bible Study. His work has introduced hundreds of thousands to practical, repeatable study rhythms that move from information to transformation. Today isn’t about his résumé; it’s about putting tools in your hands so you can read what’s there and be formed by it. Show Partner SafeSleeve designs a phone case that blocks up to 99% of harmful EMF radiation—so I’m not carrying that kind of exposure next to my body all day. It’s sleek, durable, and most importantly, lab-tested by third parties. The results aren’t hidden—they’re published right on their site. And that matters, because a lot of so-called EMF blockers on the market either don’t work or can’t prove they do. We protect our hearts and minds—why wouldn’t we protect our bodies too? Head to and use the code WINTODAY10 for 10% off your order. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39346950

467: Bored with Bible Study? Faith Womack on How to Wrestle with the Tension of Scripture, The Mistakes Pastors and Teachers Make When Teaching the Bible, and Building a Faithful Hermeneutic There’s a difference between loving the Bible and learning how to read it. For many, study has felt complicated, clinical, or—worst of all—boring. Some of us were discipled by personalities instead of passages; others learned to chase quick application while skipping context. This week on Win Today, Faith Womack, author of No More Boring Bible Study, joins me to rediscover a way of reading Scripture that is honest, thoughtful, and engaging. We wrestle with tension instead of flattening it; we name the mistakes that teachers and pastors often make, and we rebuild a faithful hermeneutic that carries you from observation to interpretation to application without distorting the text. If you’ve wanted easy methods, renewed energy for the grand story, and a path to encounter the Lord in the Word—not just opinions about the Word—this conversation is your on-ramp. Guest Bio Faith Womack is the author of No More Boring Bible Study: Why Taking Scripture Seriously Is Easier—and More Exciting—Than You Think and the creator behind Bible Nerd Ministries. Her work translates serious hermeneutics into clear, repeatable practices for everyday disciples. Today isn’t about academic showmanship; it’s about putting tools in your hands so you can read what’s there and be formed by it. Show Partner SafeSleeve designs a phone case that blocks up to 99% of harmful EMF radiation—so I’m not carrying that kind of exposure next to my body all day. It’s sleek, durable, and most importantly, lab-tested by third parties. The results aren’t hidden—they’re published right on their site. And that matters, because a lot of so-called EMF blockers on the market either don’t work or can’t prove they do. We protect our hearts and minds—why wouldn’t we protect our bodies too? Head to and use the code WINTODAY10 for 10% off your order. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39241015

466: When Pain Gets Wasted. Shawn Johnson on Stewarding the Middle Season of Life, How Bitterness Erodes Trust, and Why We Settle for Temporary Rest Instead of True Peace 11/26/2025

466: When Pain Gets Wasted. Shawn Johnson on Stewarding the Middle Season of Life, How Bitterness Erodes Trust, and Why We Settle for Temporary Rest Instead of True Peace There’s a way to live that squanders pain while your heart hardens and your trust thins. Things like numbing, retelling the wound, and calling it wisdom. This week on Win Today, Shawn Johnson, lead pastor of Red Rocks Church and author of Attacking Anxiety, joins me to explore how people waste pain and how to steward the middle seasons when nothing seems to be moving, but everything inside you is being formed. We draw the line between rest and peace, why bitterness and distrust grow in the same soil, and how to turn waiting into worship without pretending the ache away. If you’re stuck in the middle, angry at the delay, or exhausted from managing outcomes, this conversation will help you regain your presence and cultivate a hard-won hope that lasts. Guest Bio Shawn Johnson is the lead pastor and co-founder of Red Rocks Church (Denver, multi-site), and the author of Attacking Anxiety, where he chronicles his own fight with anxiety and depression and the practices that helped him rebuild. His ministry blends candor about suffering with a relentless call to faith and formation. Today isn’t about his résumé; it’s about your next faithful step in the middle. Show Partners SafeSleeve designs a phone case that blocks up to 99% of harmful EMF radiation—so I’m not carrying that kind of exposure next to my body all day. It’s sleek, durable, and most importantly, lab-tested by third parties. The results aren’t hidden—they’re published right on their site. And that matters, because a lot of so-called EMF blockers on the market either don’t work or can’t prove they do. We protect our hearts and minds—why wouldn’t we protect our bodies too? Head to and use the code WINTODAY10 for 10% off your order. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/39173835

465: Stop Ignoring Your Body! Justin Whitmel Earley on Embodied Discipleship, Resisting Body-Idolatry, and How Sleep Rebuilds Your Soul 11/19/2025

464: When the Marriage Is OVER. Lysa TerKeurst on Narcissistic Abuse 101, Ending Self-Betrayal, and Why Unhealthy People Never Meet a Boundary They Like 11/12/2025

464: When the Marriage Is OVER. Lysa TerKeurst on Narcissistic Abuse 101, Ending Self-Betrayal, and Why Unhealthy People Never Meet a Boundary They Like There’s a moment when “endure it” becomes “end it,” not because you stopped believing in God’s power to heal, but because refusing to betray your God-given boundaries is how you stop betraying yourself. This week on Win Today, Lysa TerKeurst joins me to confront the realities so many live in silence: when it’s biblically wise to end a marriage, how we talk ourselves out of our own boundaries, why loneliness is sometimes God’s operating room, and what you must know about narcissistic abuse—gaslighting, trauma bonds, and DARVO—so you can name what’s happening and get safe. If you’ve been praying for clarity while living in chaos, this conversation is a lifeline. Guest Bio Lysa TerKeurst is President and Chief Visionary Officer of Proverbs 31 Ministries and a #1 New York Times bestselling author. Having walked through public heartbreak and private rebuilding, she helps people leave destructive patterns with biblical clarity and practical courage. Today isn’t about her résumé; it’s about your safety, your sanity, and your future. Show Partner SafeSleeve designs a phone case that blocks up to 99% of harmful EMF radiation—so I’m not carrying that kind of exposure next to my body all day. It’s sleek, durable, and most importantly, lab-tested by third-party laboratories. The results aren’t hidden—they’re published right on their site. And that matters, because a lot of so-called EMF blockers on the market either don’t work or can’t prove they do. We protect our hearts and minds—why wouldn’t we protect our bodies too? Head to and use the code WINTODAY10 for 10% off your order. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/38968940

463: Why Life Really Begins at 40. Mark Batterson on The Danger of Half-Present Living, Delayed Obedience, and Why We Need to Fall in Love with Gradual Progress 11/05/2025

463: Why Life Really Begins at 40. Mark Batterson on The Danger of Half-Present Living, Delayed Obedience, and Why We Need to Fall in Love with Gradual Progress There’s a way to move through your forties that looks busy but stays small, a way to talk about calling while postponing obedience, and a way to live half-present in the present while telling yourself you’re being “wise.” This week on Win Today, Mark Batterson joins me to reclaim the middle decades as the beginning, not the end, and to confront why delayed obedience is still disobedience and why the slow, daily road of incremental growth produces what hurry never can. We’ll name the subtle drift that fragments attention, why “later” sounds prudent but hollows character, and how gradual progress—received as a gift and practiced as a rhythm—forms a durable life. Guest Bio Mark Batterson is the lead pastor of National Community Church in Washington, D.C., and the New York Times–bestselling author of The Circle Maker and more than twenty books. He writes and teaches about courageous obedience, holy imagination, and the long game of spiritual formation. Today’s conversation isn’t about his résumé—it’s about your next act: recovering presence, refusing delay, and embracing the slow, durable gains that shape a life. Show Partners SafeSleeve designs a phone case that blocks up to 99% of harmful EMF radiation—so I’m not carrying that kind of exposure next to my body all day. It’s sleek, durable, and most importantly, lab-tested by third parties. The results aren’t hidden—they’re published right on their site. And that matters, because a lot of so-called EMF blockers on the market either don’t work or can’t prove they do. We protect our hearts and minds—why wouldn’t we protect our bodies too? Head to and use the code WINTODAY10 for 10% off your order. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/38915350

462: Stop Lying to Yourself! Kevin Boehm on Why Life Happens For Us, Not To Us, Destroying the Self-Help Blueprint, When Fear Looks Like Wisdom, and Why Food Is a Peacemaker 10/29/2025

462: Stop Lying to Yourself! Kevin Boehm on Why Life Happens For Us, Not To Us, Destroying the Self-Help Blueprint, When Fear Looks Like Wisdom, and Why Food Is a Peacemaker This week on Win Today, esteemed restaurateur Kevin Boehm joins me to name the subtle drift from hope to heaviness: how fear hides under the guise of practicality, how the self‑help blueprint promises control but delivers unease, and why your plate of food may be less incidental than you think—it could be a peacemaker for your soul. We dismantle the lie that you must always surge forward; sometimes the bravest step is backward. We expose what happens when you stop lying to yourself and start living honestly. If you’ve ever felt stuck in performance, disguised your fear as “logic,” or missed the meaning beneath the menu, this conversation will unsettle and re‑anchor you. Guest Bio Kevin Boehm is a restaurateur, author, and speaker whose work encompasses hospitality, culture, and the gospel of presence. As co‑founder of BOKA Restaurant Group and author of The Bottomless Cup, he has navigated the collision of excellence, exhaustion, fear, and hope, discovering that what feeds the body often reveals what starves the soul. Kevin’s voice challenges the self‑help aesthetic and invites you into the broader story where life is for you, not to you. Show Partner SafeSleeve designs a phone case that blocks up to 99% of harmful EMF radiation—so I’m not carrying that kind of exposure next to my body all day. It’s sleek, durable, and most importantly, lab-tested by third parties. The results aren’t hidden—they’re published right on their site. And that matters, because a lot of so-called EMF blockers on the market either don’t work or can’t prove they do. We protect our hearts and minds—why wouldn’t we protect our bodies too? Head to and use the code WINTODAY10 for 10% off your order. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/38823345

461: When Fake Faith and Cynicism Collide. Bethel Music’s Paul and Hannah McClure on The Road from a Soft to a Cynical Heart, Healing the Orphan Spirit, Fake Faith, Why Faith Isn’t Certainty, and Dumping Performative Worship There’s a kind of faith that performs instead of worships, and eventually, that kind of faith breaks down. This week on Win Today, Paul and Hannah McClure from Bethel Music join me to talk about the slow drift from softness to cynicism in the life of a believer. We talk about the orphan spirit, fake faith that looks right but can’t hold weight, and how disappointment left untreated eventually hardens into disconnection. We also confront the myth that faith equals certainty, and why true worship isn’t just a song; it’s surrender in the absence of clarity. For anyone who’s battled disillusionment in church, questioned the language of worship, or wondered whether they’re singing words they don’t believe anymore, this conversation offers both confrontation and comfort. Paul and Hannah don’t sugarcoat the road. But they do point to healing. This isn’t about emotional hype. It’s about reclaiming your heart before it turns cold. You’ll learn: Why disappointment often precedes cynicism What the orphan spirit really is—and how it forms How fake faith is often learned, not chosen Why worship without surrender is just noise How to walk with God when certainty disappears Guest Bio Paul and Hannah McClure are worship leaders, songwriters, and pastors with Bethel Music. Known for their vulnerability, depth, and refusal to perform, their ministry helps people reconnect with a God who isn’t afraid of pain. They’ve led a generation to encounter God through honesty, not hype. Their story is one of surrender, resilience, and the long journey back from burnout, cynicism, and emotional numbness. Episode Links Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" ! at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on , , , and . /episode/index/show/wintoday/id/38636630