Working Christian Mom with NJ Rongner
Hosted by NJ Rongner, the Working Christian Mom podcast is a perfect mix of practical advice, encouragement and inspiration. Join her as she walks out her faith, loves her family well and thrives at work. NJ is a business strategist and entrepreneur so you can expect to hear a mix of topics including faith, business, motherhood, intentional living, and friendship.
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39: Why Online Friendship Matters With Mary Carver
11/19/2020
39: Why Online Friendship Matters With Mary Carver
Mary Carver is a new friend, although we've been circling each other for quite some time and FINALLY met. Y'all, my internet friends are real! This episode of the podcast is a true girlfriend chat where Mary and I talk about raising girls, working online how it's so hard to explain to explain our jobs, Hallmark movies and the gifts of pop culture. Mary is the host of the The Couch Podcast with Mary Carver. While you're at it, make sure you follow Mary on Instagram . About Mary: Mary Carver is a writer, speaker, and recovering perfectionist. She lives for good books, spicy queso, and holiday movie marathons—but she lives because of God’s grace. Mary writes with humor and honesty about giving up on perfect and finding truth in unexpected places on her blog, MaryCarver.com, and talks about pop culture and why it matters on her podcast, The Couch. She is the author of Women of Courage: A 40-Day Devotional, as well as a regular contributor to incourage.me and MomAdvice.com. Mary lives in Kansas City with her husband and two daughters.
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38: From Working Mom To Stay At Home Mom
11/18/2020
38: From Working Mom To Stay At Home Mom
What do you do when God calls you back to home life after working? In this episode, Karly Pancake shares WHY she left her job as a teacher to come back home to her kids. Karly is passionate about adoption and foster care. This episode is a little bit different than the ones we normally share on this show, but it's such an important conversation. Connect with Karly: Instagram: Join the .
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37: How To Have An Awesome Marriage with OL & Sway Buckley
10/06/2020
37: How To Have An Awesome Marriage with OL & Sway Buckley
Find OL & Sway On The Internet: Website: Facebook Page: Instagram: Podcast: About Our Guests. OL & Sway Buckley are Co-Creators of MarriedpreneurLife.com and the hosts of the Marriedpreneur Life podcast where they help mission-minded marriedpreneurs create momentum in life and business. The Buckleys are equipping couples with their proprietary processes to have accelerated productivity through the Marriedpreneur Method and increased profitability through the Marriedpreneur Map. Their primary purpose is to help married couples scale and create multiple revenue streams WITHOUT sacrificing their marriage (even if they don’t work in business together). OL is a former internationally award-winning banker, turned entrepreneur. He is the co-founder of RO Strong Real Estate & Financial Education firm as well as the CEO of OL Buckley Consulting. Sway is the CEO of a creative arts staffing firm as well as the founder of Smart Artist Institute Consulting. Together, the Buckleys collectively help align couples to walk purposefully, powerfully, and profitably in sync. The Buckley’s work has been featured in HuffPost, Southern Dallas Business & Living Magazine, CBS affiliates, BET, and more. They’ve known each other for nearly 20 years and this year will make 11 years of marriage. They reside in New Jersey.
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34: Filling An Empty Cup & Finding An Outlet With Lauren Anderson
09/22/2020
34: Filling An Empty Cup & Finding An Outlet With Lauren Anderson
Lauren and I chat about her motherhood story as a mama with a medically fragile son and how she discovered radical self care and began to fill her empty cup through finding an outlet. Lauren has an amazing online program designed to teach us how to make spectacular bakery level decorated sugar cookies. Looking for a community of other Working Christian Moms? Join over 2000 other Working Christian Moms who are sharing life together in our community! Links Mentioned On Air: Instagram: Books Mentioned On Air: About Our Guest: Hi, I’m Lauren, a graphic designer-turned-cookier, obsessed with creating more joy in life and in the kitchen. I grew up knowing I wanted to have a creative career. If you asked my mom and dad, they would have told you my curly hair was proof of my creativity. I chose graphic design to make my mark on the world, but after having kids, I needed a different outlet. I needed more joy, and cookies gave me that. I decorated my first cookie when I was going through the hardest years of my life. I had a baby with a serious medical condition, and my life changed in an instant. My son’s needs were so tremendous that I left my graphic design job and became his around-the-clock caretaker. Eventually we found some stability, and I decided to bring something into my life that was just for ME: cookie decorating! Over the last four years, I’ve taught myself the dos and don’ts of baking and decorating cookies through a lot of trial and error. Now, I want to share the basics and techniques that look impressive, but are easy to master. My goal is to inspire you to jump in and choose to have more fun and joy in life—through cookies! I hold a bachelor of arts degree from Ricks College, Idaho in graphic design. The design degree and my passion for design and art comes in very handy running a cookie business. After over 20 years running various art departments, and my own graphic design firm, I’m able to bring my experiences full circle as I share my baking and decorating passion to different outlets and formats online, reaching all over the world. I’m also the mother of three amazing kids, a heart mom, and am married to my soul mate and best friend. Find me at
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33: What We Learned In Quarantine with Sarah Morrison
09/22/2020
33: What We Learned In Quarantine with Sarah Morrison
Sarah Morrison and I are back to discuss what we learned in quarantine. Covid-19 gave us a few gifts, a few lessons and a few discoveries. We recapped our Word of the Year thoughts, spoiler alert, I couldn’t remember mine! If you want to hear more about our Word of the Year discussion, we share all about it in episode 32. Sarah and I also chat through what choice we made for our children’s academic year for 2020-2021 and mine MIGHT surprise you. This spring, Sarah developed an amazing program to help us all connect with our children in just 5 minutes a day by speaking their perfect language. Looking for a community of other Working Christian Moms? Join over 2000 other Working Christian Moms who are sharing life together in our community! Links Mentioned On Air:
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36: Our Big Feelings Are A Gift From God With Elizabeth Thompson
09/22/2020
36: Our Big Feelings Are A Gift From God With Elizabeth Thompson
God has given us the gift of feelings, on purpose and for a reason. Elizabeth Thompson is a big feeler and well, I’m not. In this episode, we chat about navigating our feelings with Jesus, how big feelers and not so big feelers need one another and how we handle mom guilt. Elizabeth has a brand new book out called All The Feels which is a #1 Best Seller on Amazon. Looking for a community of other Working Christian Moms? Join over 2000 other Working Christian Moms who are sharing life together in our community! Books To Read: Find Elizabeth On The Internet: Website: Facebook Page: Instagram: About Our Guest: Elizabeth Laing Thompson is the author of All the Feels, When God Says, "Wait," and When God Says, "Go." She writes at ElizabethLaingThompson.com about clinging to Christ through the chaos of daily life. As a speaker and novelist, she loves finding humor in holiness and hope in heartache. Elizabeth lives in North Carolina with her preacher husband and four spunky kids, and they make her feel humbled but happy, exhausted but exhilarated, sometimes stressed but often silly—well, you know . . . all the feels.
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35: Overcome To Become: Trusting Jesus With Our Junk with Tasha Ferguson
09/22/2020
35: Overcome To Become: Trusting Jesus With Our Junk with Tasha Ferguson
Tasha and I and I are both launching / relaunching our podcasts on the same day and we chat about how our personality plays a role in our launch style and in life. We also talk about the joys of being a girl mom, the power of owning her story, and how achieving her career goals almost cost her everything. Tasha shares openly about her journey to trusting Jesus with her junk in this episode and it is a story of beautiful grace. Tasha has a brand new podcast that just launched today called Overcome to Become. Search it on iTunes or your favorite podcast listening app. Looking for a community of other Working Christian Moms? Join over 2000 other Working Christian Moms who are sharing life together in our community! Recommendations: Books: Get Out Of Your Head by Jennie Allen The Prayer Circle Podcasts To Check Out Allie Worthington Steven Furtick’s Sunday Message TD Jakes Lisa Whittle Jo Saxton The Office Ladies Lord Today Hope For Women: Exchanging Father Wounds Bobby Bone Find Tasha On The Internet: Website: Facebook Page: Instagram: Instagram.com/latashamferguson Podcast: Facebook Group: About Our Guest: Latasha is a speaker, writer, and the host of the . She equips and empowers women with the tools to overcome anything that dares to stand in between them and who God called them to be. Her life is proof of this truth: our past and imperfections do not have the power to diminish our purpose. She is also a passionate educator who has spent the past 17 years serving in the roles of teacher, assistant principal, principal, and now director of instruction. She has been married for 15 years and has four beautiful girls ranging from 21 to 6 years old. In her downtime you can find her curled up with a book, spending time with family and friends, or on a foodie adventure.
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32: Choosing A Word Of The Year With Sarah Morrison
12/27/2019
32: Choosing A Word Of The Year With Sarah Morrison
Sarah Morrison is back to share her Word of the Year process with us. Together, she and host NJ Rongner discuss what a word of the year is, why it matters and how you can pick one too.
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31: Let's Get Real About Christmas With Sarah Morrison
11/27/2019
31: Let's Get Real About Christmas With Sarah Morrison
Is there a right way or wrong way to celebrate the holidays as a Working Christian Mom?
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30: How To Handle Negative Feedback At Work
10/28/2019
30: How To Handle Negative Feedback At Work
Negative feedback at work can be a HARD pill to swallow! Man, it never feels good! In this episode, NJ shares how she handled recent negative feedback she got at work and what she's doing to grow in the areas her management team brought to her attention.
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29: The WCM Podcast Is back! Where I've been these last few months
10/21/2019
29: The WCM Podcast Is back! Where I've been these last few months
After a long hiatus, the WCM podcast is back! In this episode, NJ shares what caused the long break between show releases and why it has taken her so long to get back into the swing of things with the show.
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28: Making Time For Mom Friends with Val Woerner
04/10/2019
28: Making Time For Mom Friends with Val Woerner
Val and I chat about making time for mom friends, why moms shouldn't use their kids as a excuse to keep us from doing the things God has called us to do and her new book, Grumpy Mom takes a Holiday.
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27: Parenting Beyond The Rules with Connie Albers
04/09/2019
27: Parenting Beyond The Rules with Connie Albers
One of the questions I get most often about how to parent tweens and teens well. On this episode of the podcast, Connie Albers, author of Parenting Beyond The Rule shares the tips and tricks that worked for her. Here’s my favorite quote that really sums up this whole episode. “People say my children are different. Well of course they are because they're formed by the God that made them with a purpose with a unique set of gifts so strengths and talents. They weren't in the wrong line and they didn't miss out on a certain quality. Connie Albers We still have broken pieces to us because we're all have we all have weaknesses and I love to help parents say let's let's focus on our strengths. Because that's where God's going to use them to excel and to do.” - Connie Albers Links Mentioned On The Show: About Our Guest: Connie Albers spent 25 years parenting her five children and 20 years working with teens. She is a popular speaker and writer dedicated to strengthening families, parenting, homeschooling teens, faith-filled living, and leadership. Her practical content inspires and equips parents in the trenches. Connie has been a spokesperson for a Fortune 500 company as well as serving as a director and board member for a nonprofit state homeschool organization. Follow Connie at .
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26: Never Too Far Gone, Restoration & Reconciliation With Alexa Bigwarfe
02/26/2019
26: Never Too Far Gone, Restoration & Reconciliation With Alexa Bigwarfe
Alexa shares her marriage story of restoration and reconciliation after separating from her husband. She admits this is till a work in progress.. her marriage, her faith and her motherhood.
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25: Trusting Jesus To Heal Our Complicated Motherhood Stories
02/08/2019
25: Trusting Jesus To Heal Our Complicated Motherhood Stories
One of the things that surprised me the most about motherhood was honestly, how complicated it is. I’ll be honest, I brought a lot of baggage into motherhood, from my childhood and from my own mom’s motherhood story. As it turns out, they way you were mothered influences your own motherhood journey on both sides. I’m not throwing my mom under the bus here friends, I had a great childhood and there is so much about WHO I am that I know is a direct result of how she nurtured and encouraged me. But things made so much more sense to me after I read the book, It’s Momplicated by Joan Edwards Kay and Debbie Asldorf. And I’m super pumped to bring you this interview with them today. In this episode, the three of us share our stories and it’s not all kittens and roses. But, I hope you leave this episode encouraged on the path of walking with Jesus towards healing and hope. Because there is NOTHING that God can’t redeem. Nothing. Links mentioned in the show: About our guests: For the past twenty-five years, through her speaking and writing, Debbie Alsdorf’s mission has been to help women live a better story by leading them to the heart of God’s love and the truth of his Word. Debbie is a biblical lay counselor, a Christian life coach, and the founder of She and her husband, Ray, have raised a blended family of four adult children. Today Debbie’s favorite role is being a grandma to six little ones. Joan Edwards Kay is a licensed marriage and family therapist in the East Bay of San Francisco and has been an adjunct professor at Western Seminary. She received her bachelor’s degree from Vassar College and her master’s degree from Western Seminary. She is happily married with two adult daughters, four stepdaughters, and five grandchildren.
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24: True You with Michelle DeRusha
01/15/2019
24: True You with Michelle DeRusha
Michelle and I talk about her new book, True You and her experience helping a refugee family relocate into her community.
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23: It’s Okay To Get Vulnerable With with Mimika Cooney
12/20/2018
23: It’s Okay To Get Vulnerable With with Mimika Cooney
Today on the show I sit down with Mimika Cooney. Mimika is the author of the book From Worrier to Warrior that was published earlier this year. She’s an entrepreneur and we chat about business, but if you’re a traditional working mom, don’t skip this one okay? She shares tons of wisdom about overcoming anxiety, listening to where the Lord was leading her and tips about how to avoid burnout as a busy mom. Links Mentioned On The Show: About our guest: Mimika Cooney is a Christian author, inspirational speaker, award winning photographer, TV Host, creative entrepreneur and mother of three. After experiencing severe rejection, bullying and a broken childhood; she spent years chasing accolades and addicted to approval, in the pursuit of finding worth, validation and confidence. Then God stepped in to heal her hurts, change her heart and awaken a passion for helping others seeking their purpose in life. Her book "Worrier to Warrior: A Mother's Journey from Fear to Faith" shares she personal story of overcoming fear, depression, anxiety and entrepreneurial burnout with God's help. /
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22: An Honest Conversation About Loss With Micala Quinn
12/11/2018
22: An Honest Conversation About Loss With Micala Quinn
Hey friends and welcome back to the show. Today’s show is one of the most sacred ones I’ve recorded to date and it’s a conversation that I recorded with my friend Micala Quinn in early September. I don’t want to give too much of the show away in the introduction but I will say this, thank you Micala, from the deepest part of my heart for trusting me to steward your story well. Friends, this isn’t one that I’d listen to with kids around. Alright, here we go. Thanks again to Micala for being so brave and going first. There aren’t a lot of links mentioned in this episode, but I put the link of George jumping in the show notes. I am happy to report to you that baby TJ arrived on October 24th and all are healthy and well. We’ll have Micala back again in 2019 to talk about the business side of her life, so you can learn how to build out your work from home mama life. Think of Micala and her family this holiday season, as they get ready to celebrate Christmas without their sweet George. Micala, I love you and again, thank you for sharing your story with with Working Christian Mom community. Friends, share this show with someone who needs to hear it, okay? Links Mentioned On Air: About our guest: Micala Quinn is a wife, mom, teacher, and founder of Live Free, Mama where she helps working moms leverage their current skills and talents into a profitable freelance career. When she’s not working she can be found going on a walk to the park with her daughter, making a home cooked meal, or watching Friends for the millionth time. / /
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21: Balancing The Priorities of Business & Motherhood with Jacy Lee Pulford
11/29/2018
21: Balancing The Priorities of Business & Motherhood with Jacy Lee Pulford
Today on the podcast I am chatting with my friend (and neighbor) Jacy Lee Pulford. Jacy is the author of the newly released book, The Glitter Effect and owns an online shop full of adorable mugs, prints and other goodies. Resources for Family Devotions by Marty Machowski by Sally Lloyd Jones by Crystal Bowman Links Mentioned: About our guest: Jacy Lee Pulford is a Christian wife and boy mama from New England. Her passions include art, writing, snacking and laughing. Jacy runs an online ministry called Hello Awesome, a place for uplifting products and messages. You can find her actively on and online at
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20: Handling Professional Disappointments with Deidra Riggs
11/26/2018
20: Handling Professional Disappointments with Deidra Riggs
Today on the show, I am chatting Deidra Riggs. In the last few years, Deidra has experienced a string of professional disappointments that were 100% beyond her control. In this episode she shares her experience and some of the fall out from it.
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19: Surving Abuse, Claiming Freedom & Walking With Jesus With Marva Goss
11/08/2018
19: Surving Abuse, Claiming Freedom & Walking With Jesus With Marva Goss
Marva endured physical, emotional and sexual abuse. In this episode she shares her story of hope and how Jesus was there in her darkest times.
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18: God's Redemption Song with Sarah Morrison
11/05/2018
18: God's Redemption Song with Sarah Morrison
Sarah Morrison went from being a single homeschooling mom of 5 to a remarried mama to 6 with a husband who stays home to be the primary care giver for their kids. In this podcast, Sarah shares the great redemption story she's experienced.
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17: Community, Cause & Calling With Megan Burns
10/09/2018
17: Community, Cause & Calling With Megan Burns
Meg Burns is a large family mama (she’s got 4 kids), a serial entrepreneur and has a heart for seeing women thrive. In this episode you’ll hear: How Megan’s cause has changed, but calling has remained steady through the years. Why it’s so much harder to start an online shop now, than it was 5 years ago when Meg started hers. The thought process behind closing Meg’s online shop, even though the business was thriving on paper. Why Meg thinks it’s so important to actively choose love. Even when we feel lonely, we’re not alone. How Meg and I make work happen, as work at home moms. How to set boundaries and how to find boundaries. This episode is sponsored by my new program to get you set up for success for the Christmas Season, Delight In December. Our big takeaways: Cause and Calling are two different things. Your calling is that thing you were born to do, that God put inside of you when he made you. It’s constant. Our cause is how our calling shows up in our lives. And that might shift over time. It may have a season with a beginning, middle and end. But our calling remains steady. Sometimes we have to end something so we can thrive in a new area. Megan closed her handmade shop, even though it looked “good” on paper. And in doing so she found freedom to thrive in a new project. That couldn’t really happen until she had the mental space she needed to just focus on one thing, selling Young Living essential oils. When she closed their online shop, her essential oils business exploded. The boundary lines are in pleasant places. The cool thing about boundaries is that we get to set them. Setting boundaries can be hard at first, but just like with any other muscle, the more you work it, the easier it gets. Work at home mamas, decide how you’re going to manage your day and then do it! Instead of scrolling on social media, use the spare minutes you have wisely. What can you get done in five minutes? Links mentioned: About our guest: Megan is a business owner, wife, mom to five, & currently living outside of Minneapolis. She is a big believer in speaking life, encouraging other women, and believes her calling is to encourage & empower women to believe they can make a difference in their homes/communities/schools/or across the world. She loves to read, learn new things, and travel with her family. Connect with her on
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16: The Art Of Surrender with Jennifer Dukes Lee
09/18/2018
16: The Art Of Surrender with Jennifer Dukes Lee
Jennifer Dukes Lee and I chat about the art of surrender and her latest book, It's All Under Control.
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15: From Stay At Home Mom To CEO with Natalie Ard
09/14/2018
15: From Stay At Home Mom To CEO with Natalie Ard
Natalie Ard is the founder of Star Kids Company. She built her business from home while her kids were young and now manages it as a busy CEO with travel.
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14: Keeping The Lord In the Center Of Your Work & Business with Val Woerner
08/14/2018
14: Keeping The Lord In the Center Of Your Work & Business with Val Woerner
In this episode of the Working Christian Mom Podcast, I chat with Valerie Woerner of Val Marie Paper. Val is a friend of one of my biz besties, and the creator of one of the products that’s an MVP in my life, the yearly prayer journal. I own and use several Val Marie Paper products including the yearly prayer journal, an undated prayer journal and the prayer memoir journal. The yearly is my favorite because it helps me be intentional and focused in my prayer life. And no, this isn’t an ad, I just love her products. I’ll have a link to all of these products I adore plus all of the other links mentioned on the Working Christian Mom Website at If you’re an entrepreneur you’re going to LOVE this conversation with Val because you’ll be able to take away things and implement them into your own business. And if you are a 9 to 5 or traditional working mom, there is good stuff in here for you too. Don’t skip it! You are going to love hearing about how Val works from a place of rest. Val has had an incredible first half of 2018 in her business. In addition to keeping up with the normal day to day of running a business and shipping her products, she’s finished not one but two books that are off to her publisher and editing team, but also Val Marie Paper was a vendor at Spring At the Silos at Magnolia in Waco Texas. Val is an entrepreneur with two little girls Vivi and Vana. In this episode she a lot about why it is important to make key hires and hire the right people for the right job, how she makes business happen with babies around, the process of writing her books and about her experience at Spring at the Silos. It sounds like a lot to juggle, but one thing that really struck me in our conversation is that just how much she is able to work from a place of rest and knowing she’s doing what God has called her to do. Connect with Val: / / Want to learn more about our programs this upcoming Fall? In this episode you’ll hear: Why Val is glad she took such a long time to hire key players in her business. The importance of staying in your own lane, especially as an entrepreneur. Val’s secrets to writing a book when you’ve got little kids at home. Val and her team went to the Silos at Magnolia to sell their products at Spring at the Silos. She shares how they were able to say yes to that even though she was writing on deadline. She also shares the specific prayers they prayed before they went and how God answered them Here are our three big takeaways: Having the RIGHT players on your team matters. Val recently hired two part time team members to assist her at Val Marie Paper. For a long time, she felt bad about HOW long it took her to find the right people. However, she is so glad that she did. Not only do her team members shine in their areas of her business, but they allow Val to excel in her role too. This was evident at Spring at the Silos where one person focused on running the check out, one person focused on welcoming people into their booth and Val spent time in the back of their booth meeting customers face to face. As they switched around their spots at their Spring at the Silos booth, Val realized how much each of her gal’s loved and shined in their area of expertise. When you really let your team members in your business run in their role, it frees you up to do the things only you can do in your business. When Val hired her team members not only did it free up some of her time, but it also freed up some of her brain space. She no longer had to worry about shipping or inventory needs because she has a team member who owns that process now. Keeping the Lord in the center of your work day is as easy as keeping a Bible open on your desk and praying as you walk through your house. Val keeps the Lord in the middle of her work by making sure the Word of God is open and nearby. It makes sense right? She recommends the Illuminated Bible because it’s beautiful and has scripture hand lettered in some of the margins. Her favorite place to keep it open to is in the Psalms. Val also recommends praying through your house as you go through it. She’s created a great tool called House Prayers that helps her transform the time she spends homemaking into purposeful prayer time. Links mentioned: So I Will by Hillsong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLURTvUQoTM About our guest: Valerie Woerner is owner of Val Marie Paper and author of the Finishing School, currently working on her second book. Her mission is to create practical tools, including her original 6-month prompted prayer journal and content that equip women to cut through the noise of everyday life and find fullness of life in the presence of the Lord. She's married to her best friend, turned business partner, turned heart-throb, Tyler and has two girls Vivi and Vana that add lots of giggles and dancing to her life. / /
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13: On Being A Pastor's Wife, Ministry Leader and Working Mom with Esther Littlefield
08/08/2018
13: On Being A Pastor's Wife, Ministry Leader and Working Mom with Esther Littlefield
Today on the Working Christian Mom Podcast, I chat with my friend and fellow multi-passionate entrepreneur Esther Littlefield. Esther is a pastor's wife, a mama and the host of The Christian Women Leadership Podcast where she women in leadership to lead well and with confidence. Esther never expected to become a pastor’s wife and in our conversation, she shares about her journey to finding safe people to confide in, what it’s like to be a Working Christian Mom pastor’s wife and how she got over the guilt about not being a stay at home mom. Two Big Takeaways from my conversation with Esther: We all need to find safe people to confide in. Esther and I both believe that we need close relationships with trusted friends. When Esther was experiencing marriage troubles, she couldn’t confide in just anyone at her church. She found safe people who she knew would keep her trust. We all need these people in our lives. And when someone trusts us with their hurts and worries, we need to hold sacred space with that instead of gossiping. If you’re seeking something and don’t see it out there, perhaps you’re being called to create it. Both Esther and I created spaces for women online through our podcasts because we were craving the community we were looking for. Esther also created a Bible Study at her church because she didn’t see what she was looking for. Often times, we have the tendency to stay on the sidelines, wait and wish someone else would just hurry up and create something for us. But often times, that stirring in your heart is the Lord prompting YOU to start! Links Mentioned [affiliate links] About Our Guest: Esther Littlefield is the writer at EstherLittlefield.com and host of The Christian Woman Leadership Podcast, where she encourages and equips women to embrace their God-given gifts, skills, and passions in order to lead with confidence. She is also the founder and CEO of Morningstar Media Services, a digital marketing agency which helps female entrepreneurs run and grow their businesses. Never satisfied to do just ONE thing, Esther stays busy as a pastor's wife, mom, leader, friend, and entrepreneur. Esther combines her background as a social worker, network marketer, and blogger to help others achieve their goals in their life and business. When she’s not running her agency, writing, or dreaming up a new idea, you can find Esther heading out for a hike with her family, sipping a cup of coffee, or enjoying the occasional Netflix binge. Connect with Esther: / / /
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12: When God Throws You A Curve Ball, It’s Always A Home Run
08/08/2018
12: When God Throws You A Curve Ball, It’s Always A Home Run
Hey guys! Welcome back to the Working Christian Mom podcast! I’m your host, NJ Rongner. I have missed you! I want to apologize for going radio silent for so long- my 4th of July week break turned into an entire month of July break. A few really big things happened in July.. they were good things, big things, scary things, things the Lord surprised us with and honestly, I gave myself permission to be in the moment, savor the blessings and keep my priorities in line. Something had to give and as it turns out, pausing production on the podcast for a month was it. Because I know you’re curious about what happened, I’ll fill you in. I’ll say this. When God throws you a curveball, it’s always a home run. If you’re on my email list or part of my community, you know the first big thing, it’s a great story worth telling. Two years ago, randomly and very much out of the blue, my husband’s commuter car was crushed by a snowplow during a snowstorm. We were parked on the correct side of the street and we could see where he was plowing the road and then our car. It was a 2002 Toyota that still had a good 120,000 miles in her, so we were super bummed. We sought the Lord as we searched for new cars and the answer was always no. Our marriage needed work and God knew it. He wrecked one of our cars so that Mike and I would learn how to consider one another’s needs, schedules, and desires. When we had two cars, we didn’t need to check in with each other about timing and schedules, we could each just do our thing and see each other back at home for dinner. I didn’t have to ask for help from my local community when it came to soccer pick up and drop off. During our two years without two cars, we both grew as a couple. I became a master coordinator when it came to schedules, our car and what we could say yes to doing and what we said no to. We rented a car for the few week’s there really was no choice but to, Mike rode his bike to work in 90 degree weather so the kids and I could take day trips, I asked for carpool help and we used Uber. We stopped putting ourselves first, started defaulting to the other and our marriage is better because of it. In January 2018, I started feeling the very strong desire to pray for a second car. We prayed as a family, as individuals and asked our close circle to pray too. I told my friend and faith mentor Entrice Rowe (podcast guest #4) that I’d just be so thrilled with a hooptie to get us around town. She immediately rebuked me… “Our God isn’t the God of small things NJ, I’m gonna need you to pray bigger on this one. His streets are MADE OF GOLD and you are asking him for a junk car?!? Nope. As your friend, I can’t let you do that. So stop praying it small.” Side note… you all need a friend like Entrice in your life… someone who isn’t afraid to challenge your faith and encourage you to chase Jesus HARD. I’ll link her episode in the show notes. Or you can go back and find her- she was episode 4. When Entrice tells me to do something or change something, it is for good reason. So I prayed bigger… that God would lead us to the right car for our family and within our budget. Something that we could pay for in cash and not have to have a car payment on, that was safe to drive and reliable. The more I prayed about it, the stronger the feeling I got that this vehicle would be gifted to us. I couldn’t see how it would happen, but I didn’t stop praying or believing. God is in the business of meeting our needs. And honestly, the way He does it blows my mind. Mike’s grandmother recently passed away after 94 lovely legacy making years on earth. We were very close and saw each other often. Her passing has left a hole in our hearts because her influence was so strong. When we started praying for our next car, Grammie was alive and well. It never even crossed our minds that someday, welcoming her car into our family would be an option. But when the estate settled, we became the owners of a Toyota that still has a good 120,000 miles in her. The second big thing that happened to me in July is that I resigned from my role at Boss Mom. It was a joy to help Dana Malstaff grow Boss Mom from the beginning. As her community manager, I played a large role in nurturing and growing her Facebook community from 2 to 30,000 and we had great conversations on her podcast, the Boss Mom podcast. While in my tenure at Boss Mom as the Facebook community manager, I got to witness a lot of really hard and beautiful conversations take place. I saw people find their biz besties and sky rocket their business launches. We talked about getting babies to sleep through the night, how to develop great products that people wanted to pay you for and oh so much more. One thing that I was so proud of was the way the community listened to different point of views with open ears. And one of my favorite conversations always read about was about how a person’s faith informed the way they handled their business. I’m a Jesus girl, so I know that influences my business decisions. But I LOVED LOVED LOVED hearing people with different faith backgrounds. Those conversations were always some of my favorite to read about… the more I know about someone who is different than me, the more I begin to understand their point of view. Dana made the decision to make the community attached to her business completely religion free. I was informed in a voxer message that topics of faith, of ANY faith were no longer allowed and she made the announcement in the Boss Mom facebook group. I wasn’t a part of any conversation that shaped her new policy even though I had a pulse on the Facebook community as her community manager. God made it very clear to me that my time had come to a close at Boss Mom. My decision to leave wasn’t just for standing up for my own faith background, but for my sisters of different religions too. I was also standing up for myself, the internal process was…messy. And honestly, that’s a graceful statement. There wasn’t a long runway with my decision and I knew that it had to be a 100% clean break from Dana and the Boss Mom Community, a place that I adored and loved. I have learned 4 really big things this month and I want to share them with you. Prayer is powerful. Sharing my heart with not only God but with my family and friends so they could also interceed was a game changer. I am 100% going to admit to you that I’m selfish with my prayer requests. If you ask me how you can pray for me, I’m going to tell you how you can pray for me. Speaking of which, gals we need to get better at this. Each Monday in my community, I ask for prayer requests from my people. Here’s what I’ve noticed, we are really good about asking for prayer for everyone but ourselves. Is it because we don’t want to let people into our own lives? Is it because we’re afraid? I don’t have the answer to this. But I know this, we need to get more selfish with our prayer requests. The next time someone asks how they can pray for you, don’t tell them about your family member or friend that needs prayer. Tell them about how YOU need prayer! God is in the business of meeting our needs. In the case of our car, there was NO GOOD REASON for a snow plow to hit it in our eyes. At the time, we didn’t understand it. But looking back at it all, we are so glad that it happened. God wants to provide for you because he loves you so much. Seriously. I mean, he sent his own son to this earth to die on the cross for your sins so could be in fellowship with him. He’s the ultimate provider. The more I open my eyes to thank God for the things he’s provided for us, the more provision seems to come. Gratitude and thanksgiving LITERALLY CHANGE everything. When God throws you a curve ball, you better believe that 100% there is always a home run coming. Now that I’ve got more time to focus on what God has really called me to do, I’m in creation and catch up mode. Here’s what is coming up from Working Christian Mom. Back to school workshop: I’m going to run this live master class a few times in August and September and it will focus on getting taking the stress out of back to school season including setting up systems and tools as well as how to set goals for your kid’s new year. Mastermind for Christian Business Owners. A Simple Christmas Experience. This 8 week program will run in October and November and will focus on getting our hearts and homes READY for the December hustle. If you’ve ever felt like a stresscase in December because of #allthethings, this is going to be FOR you. I’ll be teaching this live. Gift guide for Working Christian Moms. I am currently accepting applications for the very first gift guide Working Christian Moms. I can’t wait to curate a list of amazing gift ideas to help you thrive. If you are a business owner who would like to submit your product for the guide, I would love to have you apply. The gift guide episode will publish the week before Thanksgiving and will be promoted on all of my social channels for 6 weeks. You can learn more about the upcoming programs offered from Working Christian Mom and get on the waitlist by going to If you’re binge listening at a later date that isn’t August 2018, still head over to that link. I’ll have new offerings there!
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11: Adoption, Family Boundaries and Work with Becky Dempster
06/29/2018
11: Adoption, Family Boundaries and Work with Becky Dempster
Today on the Working Christian Mom podcast, I sit down with my friend Becky. Becky has a heart for adoption and in this episode you’re going to hear about it. When we recorded this episode, their international adoption had been finalized and they were just waiting for the call that they could go to Haiti to bring their son home. However, that process can take a bit of time. Becky shares how the door to foster care was never opened for them, even though they went through the entire process, how God lead their family to pursue international adoption and how she is getting ready to welcome her son home. She speaks openly her anxiety and fear about bringing a child of color home to their neck of the woods, an area that is mostly caucasian and shares what they are doing as a family to prepare. Can I tell you a secret? This episode of the Working Christian Mom podcast was recorded in the spring, but I can let the cat out of the back to tell you that sweet Lovens is HOME! Becky and her husband are home with Lorvens, right now. Well, maybe not right this exact second, but he’s here! In this episode of the podcast you’ll hear: The things that are giving Becky the most anxiety about bringing her son home from Haiti. How they are getting their stateside kids ready to welcome home their new brother. How Becky is preparing her business to get ready for their new addition. How Becky is preparing their friends and family to be understanding and supportive of their family after they bring Lorvens home. Links mentioned: About our guest: I’m Becky Dempster. I’m here to serve women who crave homes with purpose. I give them the tools they need to turn their houses into homes that are beautiful while meeting the needs. I remind them that their homes can feel like a big hug, and represent their style, without sacrificing function or budget.I’ve got a blog full of DIY ideas for those who want to save money and do it themselves. I also offer interior design consulting where I give you the tools and tips you need to make your space reflect your style and work hard for you. I also took an empty barn and turned it into a big old party barn with the help of my husband. Now we use it for hosting junking and thrifting sales!When I’m not busting out fun DIY projects or interior design plans for clients I can be found shuttling my three kids, playing with the dog, pretending to garden, or trying to get my cats out of the garage. And if all else fails, look for me locked up in my office, nose in a home design magazine, Pinterest, or reading. Connect with Becky: / / /
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10: The Courage To Do The Right Thing, Whistle Blowing In The Military With Danielle Roberts
06/21/2018
10: The Courage To Do The Right Thing, Whistle Blowing In The Military With Danielle Roberts
In this episode of the Working Christian Mom podcast, I am chatting with my biz bestie, Danielle Roberts. And just a heads up, we recorded this in April. Danielle is feeling better (she mentions in the episode that she was on crutches). Danielle is passionate about mentorship and especially the mentorship of women who love Jesus and those who are Christian Business owner. In this episode, we talk about the power of mentorship and it’s biblical basis and then Danielle shares a story she hasn’t shared with many. We weren’t expecting it to come out, but good things happen when you invite the Holy Spirit into your conversation. Danielle shares openly about her time in the U.S. Navy as a Working Christian Mom, how her core values influenced her work life and how she handled deployments, tiny babies and pregnancy. But she also shares the story of her decision to blow the whistle against sexual harassment while she was in the military. If you are someone who has ever thought about speaking up to the higher ups in your company or blowing the whistle in the workplace, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss. In this episode you’ll hear: Why Danielle believes mentorship is so important. Danielle walks us through her decision to blow the whistle on military sexual harassment, how that changed her relationship with her coworkers and how she leaned on God during that time. What life looks like almost a decade on the other side of her military career and how her focus and priorities have shifted. Here are our three main takeaways: When we have the courage to stand up for what is right, there are often consequences outside of our control. Danielle knew that blowing the whistle on sexual harassment in the military was going to change her life. The freedom found outweighed the consequences from her coworkers, but that didn’t make the sting of her reality any less real. When we make hard decisions, the outfall can also be hard, but we shouldn’t be afraid of it. In Danielle’s situation, the joy of the Lord was her strength. Danielle named and claimed that verse for herself. She spoke it repeatedly as she was walking into work and throughout her day. It was the rock she stood on while she faced trials at work. She held onto her faith because she knew God would carry her through. God never fails us or forsakes us. During Danielle’s trials, God showed up big. He provided her with comfort, peace, rest, support and encouragement. God keeps his promise never to leave us or forsake us. All of God’s promises in Christ are yes and amen. Links mentioned: Danielle’s book: About our guest: Danielle Roberts is an online business manager and strategist.She spends her days working with entrepreneurs to develop their business strategy and handling their day to day. As an author and mentor to Christian business women, she loves to show them how weaving faith into their business is possible. She is a wife and a mom of 4. She loves Jesus, coffee, date night and chasing after her kids. Connect with Danielle: / /
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