Working People
Working People: A podcast by, for, and about the working class today (now in partnership with In These Times magazine and The Real News Network). Working People is a podcast about working-class lives in 21st-century America. In every episode, you'll hear interviews with workers from around the country, from all walks of life. We'll talk about their life stories, their jobs, politics, and families, their joys and hopes and frustrations. Overall, Working People aims to share and celebrate the diverse stories of working-class people, to remind ourselves that our stories matter, and to build a sense of shared struggle and solidarity between workers around the country.
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What does it mean to be a union member in these dark times?
11/20/2025
What does it mean to be a union member in these dark times?
Making ends meet in today’s economy is difficult enough, but with so many societal crises affecting working people’s lives on and off the shop floor—from mass layoffs to untenable costs of living, from an authoritarian federal government to AI and the climate crisis—it can feel all but impossible. What does it mean to have a union job, to be a union member, and to be part of the labor movement in these overwhelming times? What role do unions and other labor organizations have to play, not just in the fight for economic justice, but in the fight for democracy, civil rights, the rule of law, and a livable planet? We posed these questions to a range of emerging labor leaders from different unions and worker centers enrolled in the 2025-26 Minnesota Union Leadership Program (MULP). Here’s what they told us… Additional links/info: Minnesota Union Leadership Program Workday Magazine Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, Working People Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Alina Nehlich
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'We're done': Starbucks workers launch indefinite national strike
11/13/2025
'We're done': Starbucks workers launch indefinite national strike
Four years after the first Starbucks store in the US unionized in 2021, workers across the country are still facing rampant union busting and still fighting for a first contract with the coffee giant. That is why a supermajority of unionized baristas with Starbucks Workers United recently voted to authorize an Unfair Labor Practice strike, which is set to begin on Thursday, Nov. 13, on “Red Cup Day,” in over 25 cities around the US. “Union baristas mean business and are ready to do whatever it takes to win a fair contract and end Starbucks’ unfair labor practices,” says Michelle Eisen, Starbucks Workers United spokesperson and 15-year veteran barista. “If Starbucks keeps stonewalling, they should expect to see their business grind to a halt. The ball is in Starbucks’ court.” In this urgent episode, we speak with Eisen about the impending strike and the state of the yearslong union struggle at Starbucks. Additional links/info: “No Contract, No Coffee!” Starbucks Workers United , page, page, , and Starbucks Workers United press release: “” Dee-Ann Durbin, Associated Press, “” Alina Selyukh, NPR, “” Michael Sainato, The Guardian, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, Working People Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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Campus life is unrecognizable in the Trump era: ‘There’s so many cops everywhere’
11/06/2025
Campus life is unrecognizable in the Trump era: ‘There’s so many cops everywhere’
Life on college campuses has changed dramatically in the last 10 months. While institutions of higher education continue to reel from the Trump administration’s top-down attacks and scramble to adjust, workers on campus say that their universities are simultaneously expanding their own internal repression and surveillance apparatuses to squash dissent. In this episode, we speak with a panel of graduate student workers and union members from Columbia University and the University of Michigan about the chilling new reality on their campuses and what it’s like to live, learn, and work there today. Panelists include; Vayne, a PhD candidate in history at Columbia University and a member of the bargaining committee for Student Workers of Columbia; Conlan Olson, a PhD student in computer science at Columbia University and a member of the bargaining committee for Student Workers of Columbia; Jared Eno, a grad worker in sociology and public policy at the University of Michigan and a rank-and-file member of the Graduate Employees Organization. Additional links/info: Graduate Employees Organization (GEO) , , , and Student Workers of Columbia-UAW Local 2710 , , , and Email zap info: ““ Glenn Hedin & Barrett Dolata, The Michigan Daily, “” Student Workers of Columbia press release: “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Credits: Featured Music: Jules Taylor, Working People Theme Song Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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Life after genocide: A Gazan’s message to the world about the ceasefire
11/01/2025
Life after genocide: A Gazan’s message to the world about the ceasefire
In September, before the current ceasefire deal was announced, we spoke with two Palestinians in Gaza—Mohamed Abu Tawila (a former English teacher) and his nephew Abdul Rahman (a would-be college student)—about surviving 700 days of genocidal destruction at the hands of Israel’s military and with the full backing of the United States. In this critical follow-up episode, we speak once again with Mohamed Abu Tawila from Gaza to get an on-the-ground account of life for Palestinians after the shaky implementation of the ceasefire began on Oct. 10. Additional links/info: Mohamed’s Living Water Mutual Aid in Gaza and Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Tareq S. Hajjaj, Mondoweiss, “” DropSite News, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, Working People Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Alina Nehlich
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Workers replaced by AI have a dire warning for the world
10/29/2025
Workers replaced by AI have a dire warning for the world
In this special crossover edition of Working People and The Marc Steiner Show, hosts Maximillian Alvarez and Marc Steiner examine how the “artificial intelligence” (AI) boom is shaping the economy and the impact it is already having—and will continue to have—on working people’s lives, livelihoods, and jobs. Alvarez and Steiner speak with two members of a new mutual aid and advocacy group called Stop Gen AI, which formed this year out of the critical need to provide material support for creatives, knowledge workers, and anyone else impacted by generative AI. Guests: Kim Crawley is a former cybersecurity professor and co-author of . She founded Stop Gen AI in May 2025 in response to the immense socioeconomic harm generative AI has done to her and her peers, and to the vast environmental, cultural, scientific, psychological, and economic harm it does to the world. Stop Gen AI is unique for its anticapitalist focus and commitment to raising survival funds for people who are struggling. Emmi is an information security expert with experience across many niches of the industry, including application security across a number of verticals, and she is a specialist in insider threat and cyber threat intelligence. She joined the efforts of Stop Gen AI in 2025 due to the overwhelming amount of friends she has seen lose their entire lives and careers due to the out-of-control AI bubble. She also has nearly two decades of experience with boots-on-the-ground union organizing, protesting, and activism. Additional links/info: Stop Gen AI and page Khiree Stewart, WBALTV 11, “” Marc Steiner & Maximillian Alvarez, The Marc Steiner Show, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, Working People Theme Song Stephen Frank, Marc Steiner Show Theme Song Credits: Studio Production: David Hebden Audio Post-Production: Alina Nehlich
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This government shutdown is not like the others: Furloughed federal workers explain
10/22/2025
This government shutdown is not like the others: Furloughed federal workers explain
The federal government shutdown is now in its fourth week. Over 700,000 federal employees have been furloughed, with nearly as many continuing to work without pay, yet there are still no signs that an end to the shutdown is near. “Unlike past presidents, Mr. Trump appears to feel little urgency to strike a deal to reopen the government,” Luke Broadwater writes at The New York Times. “Instead, he has used the shutdown, which began Oct. 1, as an opportunity to further remake the federal bureaucracy and jettison programs he does not like, seizing on unorthodox budgetary maneuvers that some have called illegal.” In this episode, we speak with three furloughed federal employees about the harm government shutdowns cause working people, and we discuss why this shutdown is different. Guests: Adam is a furloughed federal employee who works in recreation for the US Forest Service, managing hiking, biking, and equestrian trails in central Idaho. He serves as chapter president of National Federation of Federal Employees Local 1753, and he is an organizer with the Federal Unionists Network. Ellen is a furloughed federal employee who works in SNAP oversight and administration at the USDA Food and Nutrition Service. She serves as chapter president of National Treasury Employees Union Local 255, representing FNS employees at the Northeast regional office, and she is an organizer with the Federal Unionists Network in Boston. April is a furloughed federal employee who works in the office of Head Start at the Administration for Children and Families HQ in Washington, DC. She serves as chapter president of the National Treasury Employees Union Local 250. Additional links/info: Federal Unionists Network , , and Federal Unionists Network: “” Luke Broadwater, The New York Times, “” Democracy Now!, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Featured music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Audio Post-Production: Alina Nehlich
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Will Texas State University fire a tenured professor based on a Nazi apologist’s doctored video?
10/13/2025
Will Texas State University fire a tenured professor based on a Nazi apologist’s doctored video?
“In Texas, a socialist professor is now in the fight of his life against MAGA’s New McCarthyism,” scholar and author Bill V. Mullen writes in Jacobin. “Tom Alter, a labor historian and tenured professor of history at Texas State University, was fired from his job on September 10 after a far-right troll doctored a videotape of Alter speaking at a virtual Revolutionary Socialism conference. After viewing the video, university president Kelly Damphousse fired Alter on September 10 with what Alter and his supporters say was no due process.” While Alter was provisionally reinstated on Sept. 26, he and his family remain in limbo as they wait for a final decision from Texas State University regarding his firing. In this urgent episode of Working People, we speak with Professor Alter himself about the sequence of events that have made his case a flashpoint in the MAGA right’s all-out assault on free speech, higher education, and the people who live, work, and study there. Editor’s Note (10/14/25): On Monday, Oct. 13, Professor Tom Alter was notified by Texas State University President Kelly Damphousse that “his employment at Texas State University is terminated, effective immediately.” “I stand in opposition to Texas State University’s attack on democratic rights that are protected by the Texas and United States Constitutions as well as the academic freedom that was once the hallmark of Texas higher education,” Professor Alter said in a public statement. “To be clear, my termination is part of a broader political attack being carried out by the authoritarian far-right to crush democracy and democratic institutions in the United States in general and Texas in particular. But the charges leveled against me by the Texas State University administration do not stand up to the facts; I have truth on my side and I look forward to my day in court.” Additional links/info: Texas State Employees Union - CWA Local 6186: “” Bill V. Mullen, Jacobin, “” Russell Payne, Salon, “” Full video of Edward Helmore, The Guardian, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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Microsoft cancels Israeli spy unit access after tech worker revolt
10/08/2025
Microsoft cancels Israeli spy unit access after tech worker revolt
In a stunning and massive development, tech giant Microsoft has announced that it is terminating parts of the Israeli military’s access to proprietary technology that it was using to conduct mass surveillance and targeting of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. “Microsoft told Israeli officials late last week that Unit 8200, the military’s elite spy agency, had violated the company’s terms of service by storing the vast trove of surveillance data in its Azure cloud platform,” the Guardian reports. “The termination is the first known case of a US technology company withdrawing services provided to the Israeli military since the beginning of its war on Gaza.” This major development would not have happened without the joint-investigative work of reporters at The Guardian, +972 Magazine, and Local Call exposing Microsoft’s complicity with Unit 8200’s mass-surveillance campaign, but it also would not have happened without the disruptive protests by tech workers within Microsoft. In this panel discussion, we speak with three fired Microsoft tech workers and members of the “No Azure for Apartheid” campaign—Nisreen Jaradat, Julius Shan, and Anna Hattle—about the role workers have played in pressuring Microsoft to end its complicity in Israel’s war crimes. Additional Links/Info: No Azure for Apartheid and Maximillian Alvarez, The Nation, “” Harry Davies & Yuval Abraham, The Guardian, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Harry Davies & Yuval Abraham, The Guardian, “” Credits: Studio Production: David Hebden Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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Federal whistleblowers illegally fired after exposing ‘chaos’ at Trump’s HUD
10/07/2025
Federal whistleblowers illegally fired after exposing ‘chaos’ at Trump’s HUD
Last week, The Real News Network published a bombshell with two federal whistleblowers working in the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). Max spoke with Paul Osadebe and Palmer Heenan, two attorneys in HUD’s Office of Fair Housing, about the “chaos” that has upended HUD under the new Trump administration, and the vulnerable Americans who are being systematically abandoned as a result. Then, on Monday, Sept. 29, exactly one week after going public, Osadebe and Heenan were fired in what the Federal Unionist Network describes as “a stunning act of illegal retaliation.” In this urgent followup interview, we speak once again with Osadebe and Heenan about the conditions of their firing, and what this attack on whistleblowers means for the future of government transparency and the future of HUD itself. Guests: Paul Osadebe is a shop steward for the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) – Local 476, a member of the Federal Unionists Network, and, until recently, an attorney working in the federal government. Osadebe is one of the four employees within HUD who have filed formal whistleblower complaints through the office of Senator Elizabeth Warren (D – Massachusetts). Osadebe was fired for his whistleblowing on Sept. 29. Palmer Heenan is a rank-and-file member of AFGE – Local 476, a member of the Federal Unionists Network, and, until recently, an attorney working in the federal government. Heenan is one of the four employees within the Department of Housing and Urban Development who have filed formal whistleblower complaints through the office of Senator Elizabeth Warren (D – Massachusetts). Heenan was fired for his whistleblowing on Sept. 29. Additional resources: Debra Kamin, The New York Times, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Federal Unionists Network: “” Federal Unionists Network , , and AFGE – Local 476 Credits: Studio Production / Post-Production: Cameron Granadino
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Federal whistleblowers expose how Trump’s HUD is abandoning vulnerable Americans
09/23/2025
Federal whistleblowers expose how Trump’s HUD is abandoning vulnerable Americans
Federal whistleblowers are going public with an emergency message from within the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). According to their formal complaint, under President Trump’s administration, “HUD leadership has already violated the law” and taken actions that “will result in legal violations, gross mismanagement, gross waste of funds, and present a specific danger to public health and safety.” The complaints were filed by four attorneys and staff workers at HUD’S Office of General Counsel and Office of Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity. In their first on-air appearance since going public with their allegations, Max speaks with attorneys and federal employees Paul Osadebe and Palmer Heenan about their whistleblower complaints and the “chaos” at Trump’s HUD. Guests: Paul Osadebe is an attorney working in the federal government, a shop steward for the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) – Local 476, and a member of the Federal Unionists Network. Osadebe is one of the four employees within the Department of Housing and Urban Development who have filed formal whistleblower complaints through the office of Senator Elizabeth Warren (D – Massachusetts). Palmer Heenan is an attorney working in the federal government, a rank-and-file member of AFGE – Local 476, and a member of the Federal Unionists Network. Heenan is one of the four employees within the Department of Housing and Urban Development who have filed formal whistleblower complaints through the office of Senator Elizabeth Warren (D – Massachusetts). Additional resources: Debra Kamin, The New York Times, “” Federal Unionists Network , , and AFGE – Local 476 Federal Unionists Network: Federal Unionists Network: Credits Studio Production: David Hebden Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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The biggest labor story in the US right now is happening at Microsoft
09/11/2025
The biggest labor story in the US right now is happening at Microsoft
Current and former tech workers with the No Azure for Apartheid coalition continue to disrupt business as usual at Microsoft’s global headquarters in solidarity with Palestinians facing a genocide, and in protest of Microsoft’s contracts with the Israeli military to provide tech that Israel uses to surveil, kill, and retroactively justify the killing of Palestinians. In this episode of Working People, which is a critical follow-up to our last episode, we speak with a panel of five tech workers and No Azure for Apartheid coalition members who have all been fired by Microsoft in the past year in response to their protest actions: Anna Hattle, Joe Lopez, Hossam Nasr, Nisreen Jaradat, and Riki. Even after losing their jobs, however, these workers have vowed not to stop organizing and protesting until Microsoft meets their demands to “fully and perpetually divests from Israel's economy of occupation, apartheid, and genocide.” Additional links/info: No Azure for Apartheid and Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Tom Warren, The Verge, “” Microsoft: Harry Davies & Yuval Abraham, The Guardian, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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‘Microsoft is an active partner in the genocide!’: Inside the tech worker revolt for Palestine
09/05/2025
‘Microsoft is an active partner in the genocide!’: Inside the tech worker revolt for Palestine
Tech workers at the heart of Microsoft are waging one of the most significant and under-covered labor battles in the US right now. For the last two weeks, members of the No Azure for Apartheid coalition, including current and former tech workers at Microsoft and community allies, have been taking bold, continuing, and escalating actions to disrupt business as usual in solidarity with Palestinians facing genocide and in protest of Microsoft’s contracts with the Israeli military to provide tech that Israel uses to surveil, kill, and retroactively justify the killing of Palestinians. Those actions have included establishing a “liberated zone” encampment and even occupying executives’ offices at Microsoft headquarters in Redmond, WA. In this on-the-ground episode of Working People, recorded at Microsoft headquarters on Aug. 19-20, we take you to the front lines of the No Azure for Apartheid struggle.Additional links/info: No Azure for Apartheid and Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Tom Warren, The Verge, “” Tom Warren, The Verge, “” Harry Davies & Yuval Abraham, The Guardian, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Studio Production: Maximillian Alvarez Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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‘We want life”: Palestinians in Gaza describe their daily struggle to survive
09/03/2025
‘We want life”: Palestinians in Gaza describe their daily struggle to survive
Right now, Israel's military is invading and obliterating what remains of Gaza City. After 700 days of genocidal bombing, shooting, forced starvation, and the systematic destruction of schools, hospitals, farms, refugee camps, roads, houses, and the entire infrastructure of civilian life, the Palestinians clinging to life in Gaza City are being exterminated, while others run or limp for their lives with nowhere safe to go. Amid the horrors of Israel’s military onslaught, with starvation and illness spreading, Mohamed Abu Tawila, a former English teacher, and his nephew Abdul Rahman, a would-be college student, have been raising money online and risking their lives and safety to secure and transport clean water to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. In this urgent episode, we speak with Mohamed and Abdul Rahman from Gaza about their daily struggle to live in the midst of genocide. Additional links/info: Mohamed’s Abdul Rahman’s Ruwaida Amer, The Real News Network, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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Unions face extinction under Trump. What the hell is labor doing to fight back? (w/ David Huerta & Everett Kelley)
08/30/2025
Unions face extinction under Trump. What the hell is labor doing to fight back? (w/ David Huerta & Everett Kelley)
Every single one of us who considers ourselves part of the labor movement has some real deep, serious, and urgent soul searching to do this Labor Day. After already falling to historically low levels of union density, public and private-sector unions are facing an extinction-level event under the new Trump administration. That is not hyperbole; that is a fact. So the real question is: What the hell are workers, unions, and the labor movement doing to fight back? These are the essential questions at the center of both of the interviews we are sharing in this special Labor Day episode, which were recorded at the Netroots conference in New Orleans, LA, in early August. In the first interview, Max speaks with Everett Kelley, national President of the American Federation of Government Employees, about the Trump administration’s elimination of collective bargaining rights for federal unions. In the second interview, his first public interview since he was arrested by federal agents observing an ICE raid in Los Angeles in June, David Huerta, president of the Service Employees International Union – United Service Workers (West), speaks with Max about the status of his case and about the roles unions must play in the fight against fascism. Speakers: is the national President of the American Federation of Government Employees, which is the largest union representing federal and DC government employees. He began his first term of service as national President in February 2020, was elected to another term during the 42nd National Convention in June 2022, and was reelected during the 43rd National Convention in August 2024. Kelley has been a member of AFGE since 1981. He worked at Anniston Army Depot and retired from there after 30 years of service. David Huerta is a longtime labor leader, born and raised in Los Angeles County, CA, who currently serves as president of the Service Employees International Union – United Service Workers (West) (SEIU-USWW). Additional links/info: American Federation of Government Employees , page, and Hamilton Nolan, How Things Work, “” Michael Sainato, The Guardian, “” SEIU, “” Luis Feliz Leon, In These Times, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” (Video version of interview with David Huerta) Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” (Video version of interview with Everett Kelley) Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song
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Railroad workers explain why Norfolk Southern, Union Pacific mega-merger will be a 'disaster'
08/28/2025
Railroad workers explain why Norfolk Southern, Union Pacific mega-merger will be a 'disaster'
Railroad workers are sounding the alarm about the potentially catastrophic consequences of the proposed mega-merger of two of the nation’s Class 1 freight rail companies. “Union Pacific said it would buy smaller rival Norfolk Southern in an $85-billion deal to create the country’s first coast-to-coast freight rail operator,” Reuters reported in July. “If approved, the deal would be the largest-ever buyout in the sector.” If this giant merger goes through, what will it mean for railroad workers, customers, and for the general public? In this episode of Working People, we speak with a panel of six veteran railroaders and members of Railroad Workers United to get a workers’ eye view of the proposed mega-merger and what it will mean for rail labor, the US supply chain, and for the public writ large. Speakers: Ron Kaminkow is a member of Railroad Workers United, currently serving as a trustee, and he is also a member of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen (BLET), Division 51 in Reno, Nevada. Kaminkow recently retired from Amtrak; prior to working in passenger rail, he worked on the freight rail system for Norfolk Southern and Conrail. Jeff Kurtz was a railroad engineer and union member for 40 years and is a member of Railroad Workers United. He served as a union officer most of his career, including eight years as president of BLET Local 391 and chairman of the BLET Iowa State Legislative Board, where he oversaw safety and legislative matters for the union in the state for four railroads for 10 years. He retired in 2014 and served as state representative for one term in the Iowa House after winning the 2018 election in his House district. Derek Masters is a member of Railroad Workers United and works as a conductor for a major Class 1 railroad, primarily in the Northeast. He is a member of SMART Transportation Division (SMART-TD). Matt Parker is a member of Railroad Workers United who works as a rank-and-file locomotive engineer, based in Nevada, with over 20 years of experience. Matt Weaver is a founding member of Railroad Workers United and has been a member of the Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employees (Teamsters) for 30 years. He serves as the BMWED legislative director for the state of Ohio. Nick Wurst currently serves as general secretary of Railroad Workers United who works as a freight conductor and locomotive engineer, based in Massachusetts. Wurst started working for the railroad in 2019 as an intermodal worker and member of the Transportation Communication Union (TCU/IAM) and is currently a member of SMART-TD. Additional links/info: Railroad Workers United , page, and Railroad Workers United press release: “” Michael Sainato, The Guardian, “” Sabrina Valle, Shivansh Tiwary, & David French, Reuters, “” CNBC, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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These ‘neighbors from the hood’ saw ICE terrorizing their community—and banded together to fight back
08/19/2025
These ‘neighbors from the hood’ saw ICE terrorizing their community—and banded together to fight back
After seeing friends and neighbors in their community of Pasadena, CA, being terrorized, assaulted, and abducted by masked federal agents, Daniela Navin and Jeannette De la Riva joined together with other neighbors in their area to form Grupo Auto Defensa and fight back. From chasing ICE cars out of town with bullhorns to setting up security brigades so terrified residents can walk outside and go to the grocery store, from providing know-your-rights information to reclaiming public space, protecting each other, and rebelliously refusing to live in fear, the members of Grupo Auto Defensa are defending their community when no one else will. In this crossover episode of Working People, recorded with Professor David Palumbo-Liu and the Speaking Out of Place podcast, TRNN editor-in-chief Maximillian Alvarez joins Daniela Navin and Jeannette De la Riva to discuss the origins of Grupo Auto Defensa and the power of grassroots resistance in the face of the Trump administration’s authoritarian assault on immigrant communities and the rule of law. Guests: is a resident of Pasadena, CA, and a founding member of Grupo Auto Defensa. is a lifelong resident of Pasadena, CA, and a founding member of Grupo Auto Defensa. Additional links/info: Grupo Auto Defensa Speaking Out of Place and The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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Corporations and the government are turning the USA into one giant ‘sacrifice zone’
08/08/2025
Corporations and the government are turning the USA into one giant ‘sacrifice zone’
The Real News Network is honored to be for our on-the-ground documentary report, “.” “While corporate media covered the catastrophe in East Palestine, Ohio, with aerial views of ruined train cars and plumes of smoke likening the horrific crash to a disaster film,” The Park Center for Independent Media (PCIM) states in their award announcement, “Steve Mellon of the and Maximillian Alvarez of were on the ground telling the stories of people in the communities devastated by the deadly toxins released into their neighborhoods long after major media outlets left them behind.” With permission from the PCIM, we are sharing the audio recording of the award acceptance speeches delivered by Alvarez and Mellon in Ithaca, NY, on April 30, 2025. Speakers: Eleanor Goldfield is an independent filmmaker and creator of the documentary , which details the history and contemporary struggles of West Virginians living and dying in coal country. Currently, Goldfield is the co-host and associate producer of the , and co-host of the podcast along with Lee Camp. Maximillian Alvarez is the editor-in-chief and co-executive director of The Real News Network. is a photojournalist and writer for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, but he is currently on strike and working as co-editor of the . Additional links/info: Maximillian Alvarez, Steve Mellon, & Mike Balonek, The Real News Network, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Production: Park Center for Independent Media; Park Productions at Ithaca College Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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What good is a union in Hell?
07/29/2025
What good is a union in Hell?
On Sunday, July 20, 2025, Working People host and TRNN Editor-in-Chief Maximillian Alvarez delivered the keynote speech at the national convention of the National Organization of Legal Services Workers (NOLSW), UAW Local 2320. “I am here to report back to you from the front lines of struggle, without hesitation or hyperbole, that we are at risk of losing everything,” Alvarez told the crowd of union members. “And so I am here not to extol the virtues of your union or the value of unions in general, but to ask you bluntly: What good is a union in Hell? How much can an organization of the dawned do in a future no one wants to live in? What good does a collective bargaining agreement serve when the world as we know it is dying?” Additional links/info: NOLSW-UAW Local 2320 , , , and Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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How union organizing can change your life and the world w/Jaz Brisack | Working People
07/11/2025
How union organizing can change your life and the world w/Jaz Brisack | Working People
After getting a job as a barista at the Elmwood Starbucks in Buffalo, New York, Jaz Brisack became a founding member of Starbucks Workers United and helped organize the first unionized Starbucks in the US in December of 2021. In their new book, Get on the Job and Organize, Brisack details the hardwon lessons they and their coworkers have learned from building one of the most significant and paradigm-shifting worker organizing campaigns in modern history. In this extended episode of Working People, TRNN Editor-in-Chief Maximillian speaks with Brisack about their book, the facts and fictions characterizing today’s “new labor movement,” and why union organizing is essential for saving democracy and the world.Guests: Jaz Brisack is a union organizer and cofounder of the Inside Organizer School, which trains workers to unionize. After spending one year at Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar, Jaz got a job as a barista at the Elmwood Starbucks in Buffalo, New York, becoming a founding member of Starbucks Workers United and helping organize the first unionized Starbucks in the United States in December of 2021. As the organizing director for Workers United Upstate New York & Vermont, they also worked with organizing committees at companies ranging from Ben & Jerry’s to Tesla. Additional links/info: Jaz Brisack, One Signal Publishers, Jaz Brisack, Teen Vogue, “” Starbucks Workers United , , , and Inside Organizer School Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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"These cuts are death sentences": Trump's "Big, Disastrous Betrayal Bill"
07/02/2025
"These cuts are death sentences": Trump's "Big, Disastrous Betrayal Bill"
Dozens of peaceful protesters, including disabled people in wheelchairs, were arrested last Wednesday in Washington, DC, while protesting President Trump’s massive spending and tax bill, which will dramatically slash taxes, restructure the student loan and debt system, and make devastating cuts to vital, popular programs like Medicaid and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). With Vice President JD Vance casting the tie-breaking vote, Senate Republicans voted Tuesday to advance Donald Trump’s so-called One Big Beautiful Bill, which will now go back to the House of Representatives for final approval. In this urgent episode of Working People, we speak with Lorraine Chavez and Chrstine Rodriguez, who were among the dozens arrested for their peaceful act of civil disobedience on June 25, about what’s in this bill, what it will mean for working people, and how working people are fighting back. Editor’s Note (7/1/25): Before the US Senate voted to advance President Trump’s spending and tax bill, the provision to bar states from issuing new regulations on artificial intelligence for 10 years was removed from the legislation. Guests: Lorraine Chavez is an educator, researcher, and community leader based in Chicago. She is also a student debtor and traveled to the Washington DC protest with the Debt Collective. Chrstine Rodriguez is a legal assistant and student debtor from Pasadena, California, who also traveled to the Washington DC protest with the Debt Collective. Additional links/info: The Debt Collective , , , and Brett Wilkins, Common Dreams, “” Chris Stein, The Guardian, “” Chris Stein, The Guardian, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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What’s really happening in Los Angeles vs. what you’re hearing online
06/23/2025
What’s really happening in Los Angeles vs. what you’re hearing online
In Los Angeles, CA, armed, masked agents of the state are snatching and disappearing immigrants off the street, peaceful protestors and journalists are being attacked with tear gas and rubber bullets, National Guard troops and active-duty Marines have been deployed to police and intimidate American citizens. Fear and uncertainty have gripped America’s second largest city as a barrage of misinformation obscures the reality on the ground; nevertheless, Angelinos continue to defy the Trump administration’s attacks on immigrant communities and authoritarian crackdown on civil rights. In this episode of Working People, we take you to the streets of LA and speak with multiple on-the-ground eyewitnesses to the events of the past two weeks to help you better understand what’s actually happening and where this is all heading.Guests: is an award winning journalist, broadcaster, writer, and author; she is the founder, host, and executive director of . She is the author of and . is the editor-in-chief of the award-winning, independent outlet is an award-winning who is among the numerous journalists to have been assaulted by police while reporting on assignment in LA. Additional links/info: Tim Javier Cabral, L.A. Taco, “” David Folkenflick, NPR, “” Luis Feliz Leon, In These Times, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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Trump plans massive military parade while cutting veteran jobs, benefits, & healthcare
06/13/2025
Trump plans massive military parade while cutting veteran jobs, benefits, & healthcare
On June 6, thousands of veterans, union members, VA hospital nurses, elected officials, and more gathered on the National Mall in Washington D.C. at the “Unite for Veterans, Unite for America rally” to protest the Trump administration’s attacks on veteran jobs, benefits, and healthcare. In this on-the-ground edition of Working People, we report from Friday’s rally and speak with veterans and VA nurses about how Trump’s policies are affecting them now and how to fix the longstanding issues with the VA. Speakers: Peter Pocock, Vietnam War veteran (Navy) and retired union organizer Everett Kelley, national president of the Terri Henry, Air Force veteran Ellen Barfield, Army veteran and national vice president of Lindsay Church, executive director and co-founder of , veteran (National Guard), 2SLGBTQIA+ advocate, and part-time illustrator and graphic designer. Eric Farmer, Navy submarine veteran Irma Westmoreland, registered VA nurse in Augusta, GA, secretary-treasurer of , chair of National Nurses United Organizing Committee/NNU-VA Andrea Johnson, registered VA nurse in San Diego, CA, medical surgical unit and the NNOC/NNU director of VA Medical Center- San Diego Justin Wooden, registered VA nurse in the intensive care unit (ICU) at James A. Haley Veterans' Hospital in Tampa, FL Cecil E. Roberts, Vietnam War veteran (Army) and president of the Additional links/info: Tim Balk & Helene Cooper, The New York Times, “” Lolita C. Baldor, Associated Press, “” Eric Umansky & Vernal Coleman, ProPublica, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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Trump cuts leave VA hospital nurses and veteran patients in a crisis
06/04/2025
Trump cuts leave VA hospital nurses and veteran patients in a crisis
Already burdened by years of funding cuts and understaffing, registered nurses who work at Veterans Health Administration (VA) facilities across the country are facing a crisis as the impact of the Trump administration’s cuts to the federal workforce take effect. In this episode of Working People, Maximillian Alvarez speaks with VA nurses and union representatives for National Nurses United about how these cuts, coupled with Trump’s attempt to strip over one million federal workers of their collective bargaining rights, are hurting VA workers, the quality of care they’ve been trained to provide, and the veterans they serve.Guest(s): Irma Westmoreland, a registered VA nurse in Augusta, Georgia, who currently serves as secretary-treasurer of National Nurses United and chair of the National Nurses United Organizing Committee/NNU-VA Sharda Fornnarino, a navy veteran who has worked as a VA nurse for 25 years, and who currently serves as the National Nurses United director of the Denver VA. Additional links/info: National Nurses United , , , and National Nurses United - Veterans Affairs NNU Press Release: Eric Umansky & Vernal Coleman, ProPublica, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Featured Music: Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Credits: Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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An update on the longest ongoing strike in the US: ‘Some things don’t change at the Post-Gazette’
05/30/2025
An update on the longest ongoing strike in the US: ‘Some things don’t change at the Post-Gazette’
In the latest episode of Working People, we go back to the picket line to get a critical update on the longest ongoing strike in the United States. In October 2022, over 100 workers represented by five labor unions—including production, distribution, advertising, and accounts receivable staff—walked off the job on an unfair labor practice strike at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (PPG). The strike began after the newspaper’s management, Block Communications, which is owned by the Block family, cut off health insurance for employees on Oct. 1 of that year. After more than 2.5 years on strike, with other unions reaching contracts or taking buyouts and dissolving their units, workers represented by the Newspaper Guild of Pittsburgh are the last remaining strikers holding the line. We speak with a panel of union officers for the Newspaper Guild of Pittsburgh about how they’ve managed to stay on strike so long and about recent legal updates that have given them hope that an acceptable end to the strike may be on the horizon. Panelists include: Ed Blazina, striking transportation writer at the PPG and one of the Vice Presidents of the Newspaper Guild of Pittsburgh; Erin Hebert, also one of the Vice Presidents of the Newspaper Guild of Pittsburgh and a striking copy-editor and page designer at PPG; Emily Matthews, photographer on strike and treasurer for the Post-Gazette Unit of the Newspaper Guild of Pittsburgh. Additional links/info: Pittsburgh Union Progress , , , and Newspaper Guild of Pittsburgh Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Bob Batz Jr., Pittsburgh Union Progress, “” Ian Karbal, Pennsylvania Capital Star, “” Mel Buer, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Bob Batz Jr. & Steve Mellon, Pittsburgh Union Progress, “” Brett Wilkins, Common Dreams / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “(Livestream) ” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “(Livestream) ” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Permanent links below… and we might play it on the show! Labor Radio / Podcast Network , page, and page In These Times , page, and page The Real News Network , channel, feeds, page, and page Featured Music… Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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“It is our moral imperative”: Oregon students hunger strike for Gaza
05/22/2025
“It is our moral imperative”: Oregon students hunger strike for Gaza
At this very moment, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip who have managed to survive Israel’s scorched-earth siege and bombing are being deliberately starved to death as a result of Israel’s 11-week blockade preventing food and aid from entering Gaza. As Jem Bartholemew writes at The Guardian, “The UN’s humanitarian chief, Tom Fletcher, told the BBC [Tuesday] morning that 14,000 babies could die in Gaza in 48 hours if aid did not reach them in time. Five aid trucks entered Gaza on Monday but Fletcher described this as a “drop in the ocean” and totally inadequate for the population’s needs.” In response to this dire humanitarian crisis, students at multiple university campuses in the US have launched hunger strikes in solidarity with the starving people of Gaza. In this urgent episode, we speak with four hunger strikers at the University of Oregon (UO), including: Cole, Sadie, and Efron, three undergraduate students who are all members of Jewish Voice for Peace - UO and who just completed a 60-hour solidarity hunger strike; and Phia, a Palestinian-American undergraduate student who has organized with JVP-UO on the hunger strike and who currently remains on hunger strike herself.Additional links/info: UO Gaza Hunger Strike and Jewish Voice for Peace - UO Nathan Wilk, KLCC, “” Michael Arria, Mondoweiss, “” Syma Mohammed, Middle East Eye, “” Jem Bartholemew, The Guardian, “” Ronen Bergman & Natan Odenheimer, The New York Times, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Permanent links below… and we might play it on the show! Labor Radio / Podcast Network , page, and page In These Times , page, and page The Real News Network , channel, feeds, page, and page Featured Music… Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Audio Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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‘Like being tortured’: Texas residents living next to bitcoin mine are getting sick and being ignored
05/07/2025
‘Like being tortured’: Texas residents living next to bitcoin mine are getting sick and being ignored
While state officials and legislators have positioned Texas to be “the bitcoin mining capital of the world,” in small towns like Granbury, working-class residents living next to giant, loud, environmentally destructive data centers are the ones paying the price for Texas’s crypto boom. “None of us are sleeping,” Cheryl Shadden, a Granbury resident who lives across the street from a 300-megawatt bitcoin mining data center owned by Marathon Digital, tells TRNN. “We can't get rid of this alien invasion in our homes…This is like being a prisoner of war. It's like being tortured with loud sounds and bright lights and being sleep deprived.”In this episode of Working People, we dive deeper into the reality of living next to crypto mining data centers like the one in Granbury, the unseen threats they pose to human and nonhuman life, and what residents in Granbury are doing to fight back. TRNN Editor-in-Chief Maximillian Alvarez speaks with: Cheryl Shadden, a registered nurse anesthetist and resident of Granbury, who lives right next to the site of the Marathon bitcoin mining operation; Dr. Shannon Wolf, Precinct Chair in Hood County, who lives about 3 miles from the bitcoin mine; and Nannette Samuelson, County Commissioner for Precinct 2 in Hood County.Additional links/info: Protect Hood County Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Andrew R. Chow, TIME, “” Andrew R. Chow, TIME, “” (Video Report) Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Keaton Peters, Inside Climate News, “” NBC News, “” James Pollard, The Texas Tribune, “” Permanent links below… and we might play it on the show! Labor Radio / Podcast Network , page, and page In These Times , page, and page The Real News Network , channel, feeds, page, and page Featured Music… Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Studio Production: Maximillian Alvarez Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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FBI agents raid homes of pro-Palestine students at University of Michigan
05/06/2025
FBI agents raid homes of pro-Palestine students at University of Michigan
The Trump administration continues to escalate its authoritarian assault on higher education, free speech, and political dissent—and university administrators and state government officials are willingly aiding that assault. On the morning of April 23, at the direction of Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, law enforcement officers, including FBI agents, raided the homes of multiple student organizers connected to Palestine solidarity protests at the University of Michigan. “According to the group Students Allied for Freedom and Equality (SAFE), agents seized the students’ electronics and a number of personal items,” Michael Arria reports at Mondoweiss. “Four individuals were detained, but eventually released.” In this urgent episode of Working People, we speak with a panel of graduate student workers from the University of Michigan and Columbia University about how they and their unions are fighting back against ICE abductions, FBI raids, and top-down political repression, all while trying to carry on with their day-to-day work. Panelists include: Lavinia, a PhD student at the University of Michigan School of Information and an officer in the Graduate Employees Organization (GEO); Ember McCoy, a PhD candidate in the School for Environment and Sustainability at the University of Michigan and a rank-and-file member of GEO and the TAHRIR Coalition; Jessie Rubin, a PhD student in the School of Arts and Sciences at Columbia University and a rank-and-file member of Student Workers of Columbia (SWC); and Conlan Olson, a PhD student in Computer Science at Columbia and a member of the SWC bargaining committee. Additional links/info: Graduate Employees Organization (GEO), University of Michigan , , , and Student Workers of Columbia-UAW Local 2710 , , , and TAHRIR Coalition UMich GEO Press Release: Mahmoud Khalil statement from ICE detention: “” Allie Wong, The Intercept, ““ Grant Miner, The Nation, “” Michael Arria, Mondoweiss, “” Alvin Powell, The Harvard Gazette, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Permanent links below… and we might play it on the show! Labor Radio / Podcast Network , page, and page In These Times , page, and page The Real News Network , channel, feeds, page, and page Featured Music… Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Studio Production: Maximillian Alvarez Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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A bitcoin mine in Texas is “killing us slowly,” local residents say
04/23/2025
A bitcoin mine in Texas is “killing us slowly,” local residents say
I would like to see Texas become the center of the universe for bitcoin and crypto,” US Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) in 2021. In 2024, Republican Governor Greg Abbott Texas “wears the crown as the bitcoin mining capital of the world.” But in small towns like Granbury, TX, about an hour southwest of Fort Worth, residents are the ones paying the price for Texas’ crypto boom. Granbury’s 300-megawatt bitcoin mine, which is owned by Marathon Digital, a Florida-based cryptocurrency company, uses a mix of liquid immersion and industrial fans to prevent over 20,000 computers from overheating. Many residents say that it’s the constant sound from those fans that has made life increasingly unbearable in their small town—and that their concerns are going ignored by the company and government officials. In this episode of Working People, we speak with four residents of Granbury living near the Marathon bitcoin mine: Danny Lakey, Karen Pearson, Nick Browning, and Virginia Browning. Additional links/info: Protect Hood County Andrew R. Chow, TIME, “” Andrew R. Chow, TIME, “” (Video Report) Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Steve Mellon, & Mike Balonek, The Real News Network, “” Keaton Peters, Inside Climate News, “” NBC News, “” James Pollard, The Texas Tribune, “” Permanent links below… and we might play it on the show! Labor Radio / Podcast Network , page, and page In These Times , page, and page The Real News Network , channel, feeds, page, and page Featured Music… Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Studio Production: Maximillian Alvarez Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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‘A tremendous chilling effect’: Columbia students describe dystopian reality on campus amid Trump attacks
04/17/2025
‘A tremendous chilling effect’: Columbia students describe dystopian reality on campus amid Trump attacks
One year ago, Columbia University became ground zero for the student-led Gaza solidarity encampment movement that spread to campuses across the country and around the world. Now, Columbia has become ground zero for the Trump administration’s authoritarian assault on higher education, academic freedom, and the right to free speech and free assembly—all under the McCarthyist guise of rooting out “anti-semitism.” From Trump’s threats to cancel $400 million in federal grants and contracts with Columbia to the abduction of international students like Mahmoud Khalil by ICE agents, to the university’s firing and expulsion of Student Workers of Columbia-United Auto Workers union president Grant Miner, “a tremendous chilling effect” has gripped Columbia’s campus community. In this urgent episode of Working People, we speak with: Caitlin Liss, a PhD candidate in history at Columbia University and a member of Student Workers of Columbia-UAW (SWC); and Allie Wong, a PhD student at the Columbia Journalism School and a SWC member who was arrested and beaten by police during the second raid on the Gaza solidarity protests at Columbia on April 30, 2024. Additional links/info: Student Workers of Columbia-UAW Local 2710 April 17: Day of Action to Defend Higher Ed Mahmoud Khalil statement from ICE detention: “” Allie Wong, The Intercept, ““ Grant Miner, The Nation, “” Jonah E. Bromwich & Hamed Aleaziz, The New York Times, “” AAUP letter to college and university legal offices: “” Alan Blinder, The New York Times, “” Oliver Laughland, The Guardian, “” Alice Speri, The Guardian, “” Annie Ma, Makiya Seminera, & Christopher L. Keller, Associated Press, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Permanent links below… and we might play it on the show! Labor Radio / Podcast Network , page, and page In These Times , page, and page The Real News Network , channel, feeds, page, and page Featured Music… Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Studio Production: Maximillian Alvarez Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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‘People are hiding in their apartments’: Inside Trump’s assault on universities
04/12/2025
‘People are hiding in their apartments’: Inside Trump’s assault on universities
International students are being abducted and disappeared by ICE in broad daylight. Life-saving research projects across the academy are being halted or thrown into disarray by seismic cuts to federal grants. Dozens of universities are under federal investigation for their Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion programs, their allowance of trans athletes to compete in college sports, and their tolerance of constitutionally protected Palestine solidarity protests. In today’s urgent episode of Working People, we get a harrowing, on-the-ground view of the Trump administration’s all-out assault on institutions of higher education and the people who live, learn, and work there. TRNN Editor-in-Chief Maximillian Alvarez speaks with , President of the American Association of University Professors, Associate Professor of Journalism and Media Studies at Rutgers University, and co-director of the ; and , Assistant Professor at the Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute at New York University, AAUP Council Member, and Peabody-award winning host of . Additional links/info: April 17: Day of Action to Defend Higher Ed American Association of University Professors (AAUP) Federal Unionists Network AAUP letter to college and university legal offices: “” Alan Blinder, The New York Times, “” Oliver Laughland, The Guardian, “” Alice Speri, The Guardian, “” Joy Connolly, Chronicle Review, “” Collin Binkley, Associated Press, “” Maximillian Alvarez, Working People / The Real News Network, “” Permanent links below… and we might play it on the show! Labor Radio / Podcast Network , page, and page In These Times , page, and page The Real News Network , channel, feeds, page, and page Featured Music… Jules Taylor, “Working People” Theme Song Studio Production: Maximillian Alvarez Post-Production: Jules Taylor
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