#396 Chris Avery: The Emerging Role of Men
The Next Chapter with Charlie
My guest today is Chris Avery. With a humble but steadily growing community of 5,000 Christian men, Chris Avery brings a grounded voice to topics like discipline, fatherhood, and the gritty side of spiritual growth. Chris wasn’t born with unshakeable confidence. He’s walked through the valley of fear, experienced doubt, and rebuilt himself one mile at a time (which we will talk about more as the show proceeds). Chris has coached more than a thousand people, helping men find clarity, resilience, and deeper identity in Christ. Let’s find out more as we bring Chris Avery on the show!
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#396 Chris Avery: The Emerging Role of Men
The Next Chapter with Charlie
My guest today is Chris Avery. With a humble but steadily growing community of 5,000 Christian men, Chris Avery brings a grounded voice to topics like discipline, fatherhood, and the gritty side of spiritual growth. Chris wasn’t born with unshakeable confidence. He’s walked through the valley of fear, experienced doubt, and rebuilt himself one mile at a time (which we will talk about more as the show proceeds). Chris has coached more than a thousand people, helping men find clarity, resilience, and deeper identity in Christ. Let’s find out more as we bring Chris Avery on the show!
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#395 Steve Garnass-Holmes
The Next Chapter with Charlie
My guest today is friend and poet Steve Garnass-Holmes. Steve Garnass-Holmes’s life is rich in thought and in experience. Talking to Steve is like talking to a writer of wisdom literature. Today we will begin the show by addressing the question, “What does it really mean to follow Jesus?” Is it a heart or head issue? The heart says to love while the head becomes laden with thoughts of being right. But there is really only one way to be right and that is To Love. Steve Garnass-Holmes will challenge what you may believe and then encourage you with one simple truth. Let’s find out...
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#395 Steve Garnass-Holmes
The Next Chapter with Charlie
My guest today is friend and poet Steve Garnass-Holmes. Steve Garnass-Holmes’s life is rich in thought and in experience. Talking to Steve is like talking to a writer of wisdom literature. Today we will begin the show by addressing the question, “What does it really mean to follow Jesus?” Is it a heart or head issue? The heart says to love while the head becomes laden with thoughts of being right. But there is really only one way to be right and that is To Love. Steve Garnass-Holmes will challenge what you may believe and then encourage you with one simple truth. Let’s find out...
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#394 Shauna - Creating a New Normal
The Next Chapter with Charlie
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#393 Ken Wortley: Truth and Liberation
The Next Chapter with Charlie
Show Notes Today we are chatting with Ken Wortley, author of The Gospel of Secrets which is a daring, heartfelt memoir of truth, liberation, and love. From the pulpit to personal revelation, Ken shares his journey as a pastor who spent decades preaching faith while silently wrestling with personal identity issues. In this powerful conversation, we engage in a moving dialogue about courage, healing, and living with no secrets left to hide. With that let’s bring Ken Wortley on the show! LINKS Check out Ken Wortley’s book: The Gospel of Secrets: A Memoir of Truth, Liberation, and Love,...
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#392 Terry Hershey: Pilgrimages to Experience Wonder
The Next Chapter with Charlie
Show Notes Welcome friends to the Next Chapter with Charlie. On a recent blog I wrote the following note… “On my last trip (3 weeks in Asia), I discovered a new mantra for taking time away from home. “I no longer go on vacations to sight-see. Instead, I take pilgrimages to experience wonder.” What if I made that my mantra for every single day? “Anticipate little except moments of surprise and wonder.” And so with this, I chat with author, teacher, and landscape architect, Terry Hershy. LINKS You can find out much more about Terry and his post Sabbath Moment .
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#391 Katie Turner: Finding Contentment and Peace
The Next Chapter with Charlie
Show Notes Hi there and Welcome to the Next Chapter with Charlie. Our special guest today is Katie Turner... Let's bring her on to the show. LINKS Please visit Katie’s website .
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#390 Becca Eve Young: Your Purpose is Always Evolving
The Next Chapter with Charlie
Show Notes Our really special guest today is Becca Eve Young, a former corporate strategist turned soulful storyteller and devoted, quite simply, to the art of becoming. Her debut book, "It's Gonna Get Messy" has received brilliant reviews on Amazon—it’s received like 98% of 5-star ratings. That is truly unique! The heart of her story is rooted in ditching the societal script you’ve learned throughout your life and becoming your most soulful, authentic self. With that let’s bring Becca Eve Young on the show!
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#389 Blair Abee: Meaningful Meditation
The Next Chapter with Charlie
Show Notes Blair Abee is an author, poet, consultant and ordinary mystic. He has written 5 award winning books and dozens of articles on meditation and manifestation. Blair describes himself this way, “I am an explorer who has discovered a variety of techniques, tools and ideas that I think you will find useful in your own personal development. With that let’s bring Blair on the show! LINKS Please check out Blair’s most famous book: The Meditation Book, at Amazon . Get a free copy of Blair’s first book on meditation from his website found .
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Today Producer Paul and I plan to have a conversation on what seems a deep and yet pervasive onslaught of apathy both culturally and individually we are experiencing today.
Apathy is a strange bird. Psychology Today calls it the “emotionless emotion.” Jimmy Buffet, said it best, “I’ve been wondering if what I am feeling is ignorance or apathy. Hell, I don’t know and I don’t care.”
In Psychology Today I read, “Paradoxically, what makes the feeling of apathy unique is that it’s essentially the feeling of not feeling. And doubtless, it’s something that at some point in your existence you’ve encountered. We all have. For whenever you feel that something vital is missing from your life, yet lack the motivation or drive to pursue it, you’re afflicted with this curiously “emotionless” emotion.”
So at the heart of apathy, is a feeling that “something vital is missing from your life.” You feel you have nothing worthy of your effort to pursue. There is no anticipation of hope, and without hope life becomes almost pointless. In Victor Frankl’s brilliant book documenting his psychological state in a Nazi concentration camp he clearly stared that it was only HOPE that kept people going.
All of the drivers of meaning and fulfillment have dissipated to a point of a profound disinterest in all that motivated you in the past: a cause, your job, your most meaningful relationships, your worthiness in pursuing something essential in your own estimation.
In my observation apathy occurs in two conditions: First is what Paul is most intrigued with and that is an a culture of apathy regarding politics and religion and the second is what I am calling personal apathy and that is when you get a case of the “I just don’t give a shit.”
Let’s deal with the second one first.
Personally, for a few weeks now, I have been in the doldrums of a bit of apathy. Activities that once inspired me I find rather unexciting. As a very passionate person this feeing is rather disconcerting. “I just don’t care about what I desire to care about: I no longer paint, I spend less time writing, and even my volunteer commitments have suffered. I still do what is required but I am not currently satisfied by it.
My feeling is that I just want to quit everything. But, obviously, that is not the solution because somewhere deep inside I still love all these activities.
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