53 | Skyrunner Hillary Allen: Courage and Curiosity
Release Date: 07/01/2021
169 | Triathlete and Coach Angela Naeth on Creativity, Curiosity, and Compassion
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“If I had to choose one injury or obstacle as the most difficult, it's really hard for me to do that because each one was very different in and of itself. I look back at them, and I'm honestly quite grateful I've been through it all, because it's changed who I am and it's made me who I am. You learn a lot when you're down and out.” Angela Naeth has been racing as a pro triathlete since 2008, and added gravel racing in 2022. In that time, she’s had plenty of success, reaching the podium more than 40 times in 70.3 and Ironman events and placing in the top 8 at Ironman World...
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168 | Coach Carrie Answers a Question: Tell Yourself Something Worth Believing
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“ My surgery was a success, and my doctors have given me the go-ahead to play again next season, but it's been over a decade since my initial injury, and I needed to hang up my skates. I've been sidelined for about 11 years. I was always a really aggressive player, and I've never been one to shy away from a confrontational situation on the ice. But after my injury, I'm worried that I'll be too nervous to really dig in and go full throttle when it comes to checking or anything that brings me too close to the boards. I DESPERATELY want to play again, but I know myself well enough to...
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167 | Coach Carrie and Cindy Label Your Emotions
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“ When you take a moment to pause and label the emotion you're feeling, you're asking your prefrontal cortex to get involved, which pulls the activation out of the amygdala where your brain is processing threat or no threat. Instead of being overwhelmed by the physiological experience of the emotion. It creates psychological distance so you can experience it from a less threatening vantage point.” Here at the Injured Athletes Club, we talk a lot about the roller coaster of emotions. Today, on this host-ful episode, Coach Carrie guides us through some of the ups and downs you’re...
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166 | Coach Carrie Answers a Question: Sustaining Motivation and Energy During Recovery
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“I just had my 12-week post-op follow-up with my doctor. It was a good appointment and things are pretty much where they are supposed to be at this stage. But I’ve been hitting a wall in my PT in terms of fatigue and overall enthusiasm. Most days, my energy is very low, and I’m trying to incorporate more rest and sleep in as much as possible. The doctor said at this stage—between month 3 and 12—is where the real work begins in terms of strengthening and getting back to where I was before, and hopefully stronger. So I’m wondering if you have guidance on keeping...
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165 | Author and Athlete Chelsey Klein on Grace, Survival, and Letting Go
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“ I've had to learn how to ask for help. I am grateful for my independence. I'm grateful for the fact that if I want something, I go get it. And my work ethic—I work in sales and my success of being an athlete, I owe it to that. But at the end of the day, there is that understanding of there's a difference between giving up and surrendering.” Chelsey Klein is a lifelong athlete—and no stranger to injury, which ended both her pursuit of gymnastics as a child and her collegiate volleyball career. But during the summer of 2020, during the height of the pandemic, she faced a...
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164 | Coach Carrie Answers a Question on Balancing Healing and Life Goals
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“ I’m feeling like my injury has really held me back in life. My first two years of college, I was trying to survive school while recovering from a car accident. I’ve needed every extension and have had many surgeries after that, which have affected my schooling and life in general. Now I’m ready to transfer from my community college to a university, and I don’t have all the right classes for the degree I’m going into. I feel like this injury has just ruined me, and I’m not sure what to do.” —Rylie Injuries can be devastating at any stage and time. But in some cases,...
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163 | Marathoner Leanna Scaglione on Running Through Life's Challenges
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“ Whatever you're feeling, whether it be anger, hatred, sadness, disappointment—it's okay. You're allowed to feel those things. That is valid. But just know that this situation— yes, NF is a lifelong diagnosis, and not having a cure, it does change your life trajectory a little bit. But it doesn't dictate how you have to live your life.” Leanna Scaglione was just 16 years old when what the aspiring ballerina thought was an injury from dancing turned into something she never could have imagined—surgery to remove a spinal tumor that left her temporarily unable to walk. Soon...
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162 | Coach Carrie Answers a Question: Rebuilding Trust in Your Body
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“How do you navigate phantom pains and constant re-injury fears after recovering from a bone stress injury?” —Marija Fear is one of the brain’s ways of protecting the body when it’s injured. But often, our anxiety lingers long after it’s useful. Our bodies and minds don’t always recover at the same rate, Coach Carrie explains in this week’s listener Q&A (that’s why deliberately working on your mental skills is so important!). Phantom pains and fears of re-injury are totally normal after a bone stress injury, she points out. To reset your nervous system and...
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161 | Triathlete and Author Roderick Sewell on Defying Odds and Creating a Legacy Beyond Sports
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“ Representation does matter. Because I've been to Zambia, Ethiopia, and Kenya with this same team, and when they see somebody who looks like them and is also walking on prosthetics … this child might be 18 and has never had a prosthetic. Now they're like, ‘Oh, I have the motivation to not only try it, but know that I can live a normal life.” On Oct. 12, 2019, marathoner Eliud Kipchoge the two-hour barrier in the marathon distance. The next day, his compatriot Brigid Kosgei the official women’s marathon world record, running 2:14:04 in Chicago. Between the two, another...
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160 | Coach Carrie Answers a Question: Handling Unwanted Advice
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“The most frustrating thing is when older women in their 70s and 80s keep pestering me when I’m injured. I call them the ‘I-told-you-so ladies.’ I feel like they’re giving me unsolicited advice and discouraging me to go back to lifting. Sometimes their comments hurt. One lady is a retired bodybuilder and a personal trainer in her 80s who had a hip replacement and the other lady is just an average Joe who doesn’t lift weights but got a knee replacement. Please help me how to deal with those two! I just hate it when people in general give me unsolicited advice.” —Nicole ...
info_outline“Every day doesn't have to be perfect. But you still have to put in the work, and you still need to show up, and you still need to put that brick in. Because in my little brick house in Fort Collins, which I grew up in, all the bricks were there, even if they were cracked, and scratched. They were all there in their imperfection and they made this beautiful structure. That's honestly what kept me going on those days where I felt like I didn't want to show up to do my PT. I felt like that was the one thing that I could do, no matter how boring it was, to lay that brick for the day.
Hillary Allen’s amazing story is actually the very first one we highlight in our book Rebound. In 2017, she fell off a ridge during Norway’s Tromsø Skyrace, tumbling 150 feet to what could have been her death. Her injuries included two broken ribs and wrists, a fracture in her back, and a ruptured ligament in her foot.
She’s always written eloquently about her injury, and her compelling new book Out and Back tells the tale of her accident and recovery. On this week’s show, we delve into some of the emotional components of that incredible journey, including the importance of asking for support and how she showed up for herself on days when she didn’t know if she had it in her.
And—in a topic that’s not discussed as much, but is critical for injured athletes—she also opens up about her past with disordered eating, how fueling may have saved her life, and her advice for coping with fears about weight and nutrition during recovery.
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In this episode, we discuss:
- Her respect for the power of nature, and injuries are viewed in extreme running (5:56)
- How coming to terms with the fact that she might never compete again ultimately made her a stronger runner (14:05)
- Her “brick by brick” analogy of recovery (18:43)
- Why asking for support was so hard, and how she learned to do it anyway (23:00)
- The hardest time period of her recovery, and how she got through it (28:00)
- The power of curiosity, and why she believes it was one of the secrets to her survival (30:41)
- How grief and trauma are like waves, and how she’s learned she can withstand them (34:23)
- Her experiences with disordered eating before—and after—her injury, and why she’s so passionate about sharing them (36:39)
- Why she—like Amelia Boone—doesn’t like referring to her recovery as a “comeback” (48:11)
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Resources/links:
- Hillary’s website and Instagram
- Her fabulous book, Out and Back: A Runner’s Story of Survival Against All Odds
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