The Jungle of Forgiveness and Boundaries - Can They Co-Exist?
Release Date: 01/16/2022
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info_outlineIs there someone in your life who wants forgiveness (or you want to forgive) but continues to treat you abusively? This episode may help you navigate that jungle.
Boundaries by Henry Cloud and John Townsend
Bible (Matthew 18:21-35)