How to reverse the trend of Quiet Quitting, with leadership expert and bestselling author Dov Baron
Release Date: 11/08/2022
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info_outlineIn this era of the “Great Resignation,” and the rise of “quiet quitting,” companies are more worried than ever about a disengaged, fluctuating workforce. But there are effective strategies organizations can use to build a loyal, engaged team. They just might not be the strategies you *think* will work.
Our guest this week is one of the global experts in building more effective teams: Dov Baron has been named twice to the list of the world’s Top 30 Global Leadership Gurus and Inc. Magazine’s Top 100 Leadership Speakers. He is the leading authority on Emotional Source Code and the Anatomy of Meanings. He’s the founder and host of two podcasts, and the bestselling author of several books, including “One Red Thread” and “Fiercely Loyal: How High Performing Companies Develop and Retain Top Talent.”
Listen to the full episode for the conversation on the failures of hybrid work styles (and what companies can do to avoid the pitfalls), the concept of “quiet quitting,” why foosball tables and coffee machines aren’t the key to employee engagement, and more.
Here’s a Glimpse of What You’ll Learn:
- More about Emotional Source Code, and how that concept is integrated into Dov’s work
- Why hybrid work styles are failing in a post-pandemic world, and why building community is so crucial to building a business
- The reasons Dov says “normal” is dead
- Why integrating more choice for employees is the most effective strategy for building an effective workplace culture
- How immigration policy affects labor markets
- Dov’s definition of The Great Resignation, as well as the concept of “quiet quitting”
- Why companies’ strategies for employee engagement are not working in this modern era of work
- How to measure trust within an organization, and why that’s one of the most important metric in today’s organizations
- The concept of “reciprocal vulnerability”
- The problem with too much competition driving our daily lives
- More about Dov’s background, including the time he fell nearly 12 stories while free climbing in 1990
- Why curiosity is so important to Dov’s worldview, and how it guides his behavior
Resources Mentioned In This Episode:
- Dov Baron’s website
- Dov Baron on LinkedIn
- Dov Baron Twitter
- Dov Baron Leadership on Facebook
- “One Red Thread: Discovering the Purpose Already Woven Into Your Life” by Dov Baron
- “Fiercely Loyal: How High Performing Companies Develop and Retain Top Talent” by Dov Baron
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- Carl J. Cox on LinkedIn