Engagement Journalism to Elevate Voices of Adoption with Amanda Kari McHugh - Ep 81
Release Date: 02/20/2023
Unraveling Adoption
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info_outlineIn this week’s Safe Home Podcast, Beth talks with Amanda Kari McHugh, an adoptee and an engagement journalist who is making her mark on the adoption community with her project Voices of Adoption which you can find on TikTok, Instagram, and Substack. In this project she elevates the voices of adoptees and birth mothers.
Stay tuned for ways you might be able to participate in this project!
Amanda is pursuing a double masters in journalism and engagement from grad school at the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at CUNY. She hopes to be a resource to help other adoptees and also to help other journalists find good adoption data.
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RESOURCES:
Amanda’s information:
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Voices of Adoption on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@voicesofadoption
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Voices of Adoption on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_voicesofadoption/
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Voices of Adoption on Substack: https://voicesofadoption.substack.com/
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Abortion/Adoption video collage that Amanda created: https://www.instagram.com/p/CdtUQEfj5dl/
Other resources mentioned in this episode:
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Academia.edu: https://www.academia.edu/
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Boolean Search Terms: https://www.lifewire.com/boolean-search-terms-google-1616810
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Desiree Stevens and Access Connecticut: https://www.facebook.com/AccessConnecticut/
Other Resources:
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Other Parents Like Me - https://www.facebook.com/other.parents.like.me
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Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents of Addicted Teens: https://heatherrosscoaching.com/
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Find a Tele-Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling
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Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao
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TIME STAMPS:
1:25 Amanda’s adoption story and childhood
4:25 Kudos to Amanda’s school counselor for knowing about adoption-competent therapists
5:50 Amanda’s attachment style is complicated
7:09 How lack of family medical history impacts adoptees
10:00 Advocating for adoption reform and dealing with pushback
12:00 Blasting apart adoption myths, getting people angry at her
14:35 Pushback has improved Amanda’s reporting
15:20 Where does Amanda find adoption data? Who keeps track of “goods transferred?”
18:50 Privacy laws - are they a farce?
20:00 The Yelp of adoption agency databases idea
20:44 Voices of Adoption on TikTok and Instagram
22:38 Objectivity is a myth but we can try to understand the other points of view
24:11 What exactly is engagement journalism?
25:00 “Domestic supply of infants” necessitated discussion about adoption and abortion
27:12 Amanda’s TikTok video (audio only)
29:25 The aftermath of the viral video
32:37 How the Voices of Adoption on Substack will create community-sourced resources
35:50 Amanda’s dream for collective members to get paid for their emotional labor
39:09 How to participate in Amanda’s projects and join the Voices of Adoption community
41:04 The importance of moderators in social media
44:11 How we can share our stories safely and authentically to help people coming out of the fog