Unraveling Adoption

An intentional space to delve into adoption's complexities together, hosted by adoptive mom and adoptee advocate Beth Syverson. She and her young adult son began this podcast to help other families with adoptees struggling with addiction and mental health issues. It features the voices of a diverse array of adoptees and (occasionally) others with unique perspectives on adoption. Unraveling Adoption aims to elevate family preservation as the ideal, and amplify the voices of the traditionally marginalized.

Building Resilience: DBT Techniques for Overcoming Adoption-Related Challenges with Sharon Stein McNamara - Ep 184 02/17/2025

Building Resilience: DBT Techniques for Overcoming Adoption-Related Challenges with Sharon Stein McNamara - Ep 184 "So the piece that I most resonate with the Dialectical Behavior Therapy is it's one of the therapies that really understands this core feeling of feeling overwhelmed and like you don't want to be alive." - Sharon Stein McNamara EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Sharon Stein McNamara, a licensed psychologist and adoption-competent therapist. Sharon, an adoptee herself, shared her personal journey and the profound impact of adoption on her life, particularly during her adolescent years when she faced suicidal thoughts after a breakup. We delved into the complexities of adoption and how they can lead to feelings of self-loathing and overwhelming distress, especially among adoptees. Sharon introduced us to Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), a therapeutic approach that has been particularly effective for adopted adolescents and young adults. She explained how DBT incorporates mindfulness and distress tolerance skills, which are crucial for individuals who may feel their emotions are too intense to manage. Throughout our conversation, Sharon emphasized the importance of recognizing and validating these feelings rather than dismissing them. She shared her own experiences with DBT and how it helped her and her clients navigate the challenges of attachment and self-worth. We discussed the significance of shifting core beliefs about oneself, especially for adoptees who may struggle with feelings of being unwanted or unworthy. Sharon's insights provided hope and practical tools for families and individuals impacted by adoption. She encouraged listeners to never give up hope on adoptees, as the right support and understanding can lead to healing and growth. I hope this episode resonates with anyone who has been touched by adoption or is seeking effective therapeutic tools to support themselves or their loved ones. Thank you for joining us, and please share this episode with anyone who might benefit from Sharon's expertise. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Sharon’s information: Look up Sharon’s website: Other resources mentioned in this episode: Here’s the book Sharon referenced: How to Break Your Addiction to a Person: When--and Why--Love Doesn't Work : =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption 00:01:30 - Guest Introduction: Sharon Stein McNamara 00:02:00 - Sharon's Adoption Story 00:03:40 - Understanding DBT and Its Relevance 00:04:50 - The Importance of Distress Tolerance 00:06:30 - DBT vs. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy 00:08:30 - Grounding Techniques in DBT 00:10:00 - Building Trust with Clients 00:10:30 - Working with Adoptees in Therapy 00:11:00 - Self-Loathing and Adoptee Experiences 00:12:30 - Personal Story: Overcoming Breakup Trauma 00:15:00 - The Impact of Attachment on Relationships 00:17:00 - DBT Skills for Managing Cravings 00:19:00 - The Role of Core Beliefs in Healing 00:21:00 - Finding a DBT-Trained Therapist 00:23:00 - Outcomes of DBT for Adoptees 00:25:00 - Final Thoughts and Resources 00:26:00 - Conclusion and Call to Action /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/35262675

Breathwork and Healing: A Journey Through Adoption Trauma with Kellan Bacon - Ep 183 02/10/2025

Breathwork and Healing: A Journey Through Adoption Trauma with Kellan Bacon - Ep 183 "I was one of these slight skeptics; I was like, well I've been breathing all my life, what can breathwork do for me?" -- Kellan Bacon Hear the transcript of this episode here: https://app.swellai.com/t/tp_01JKBNQJYFFZT18Z0XSMHHTH37 EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Kellan Bacon, a gender-expansive, transracial adoptee from China, who was adopted as an infant in 1998 and now resides in Cardiff, Wales. Kellan has recently launched a professional practice called Kai Ming Holistics, where they utilize breathwork and other embodied modalities to support others on their healing journeys. Kellan shared their personal adoption story, highlighting the complexities and challenges they faced growing up in a transracial family. They discussed the common narrative of being "saved" through adoption and how they eventually came to realize the profound impact of adoption trauma on their life. This awakening occurred during a mental health crisis around the age of 20, leading Kellan to explore their identity and the interconnectedness of their experiences as an adoptee and a queer individual. We delved into the transformative power of breathwork, a healing modality that Kellan discovered during the COVID-19 pandemic. They explained how breathwork can help individuals access and process trauma stored in the body, particularly for adoptees who may have pre-verbal or pre-cognitive trauma. Kellan emphasized the importance of having a trained guide during breathwork sessions to ensure safety and support. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Kellan’s information: Kellan’s Substack: Find Kellan on Instagram both ways at: AND/OR Find Kellan on Facebook at: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Welcome and Introduction Introduction to the podcast and the host, Beth Syverson, along with her son Joey's journey. 00:01:05 - Meet Kellen Bacon Introduction of guest Kellen Bacon, a transracial adoptee and breathwork practitioner. 00:01:48 - Kellen's Adoption Story Kellen shares their adoption experience and the realization of adoption's impact. 00:03:15 - Coming Out of the Fog Discussion on the awakening to adoption trauma and its effects on mental health. 00:04:30 - Transracial Adoption Experience Kellen discusses growing up as a transracial adoptee and the challenges faced. 00:06:04 - Exploring Gender Identity Kellen talks about their journey of coming to terms with their gender identity. 00:07:01 - The Intersection of Identities Discussion on how various aspects of identity intertwine and impact personal growth. 00:08:34 - COVID and Breathwork Kellen shares how COVID led them to discover breathwork as a healing modality. 00:10:01 - Understanding Breathwork Explanation of breathwork and its unique approach to healing trauma. 00:11:08 - Demonstration of Breathwork Kellen provides a brief demonstration of breathwork techniques. 00:12:24 - Safety in Breathwork Discussion on the importance of having a guide during breathwork sessions. 00:15:09 - Breathwork for Adoptees Exploration of how breathwork can specifically benefit adoptees dealing with trauma. 00:16:39 - Trauma in the Body Kellen explains how trauma is stored in the body and the importance of somatic healing. 00:19:30 - Kellen's Offerings Information on Kellen's practice, including support groups for trans-adoptees. 00:20:20 - Root Cause Healing Introduction to root cause therapy and its significance in addressing limiting beliefs. 00:22:26 - Kellen's Journey and Age Discussion on Kellen's age and their deep work in healing and therapy. 00:23:30 - Closing Thoughts Final remarks on the importance of breathwork and resources for adoptees. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/35165180

Responding to the Siren Call: Navigating Birth Family Connections with Susan Kiyo Ito - Ep 182 02/03/2025

Responding to the Siren Call: Navigating Birth Family Connections with Susan Kiyo Ito - Ep 182 "I think she had a deep ambivalence about me, knowing me, having a relationship with me from the very beginning." -- Susan Kiyo Ito Read the transcript of this episode here: EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Susan Kiyo Ito, a writing professor and author of the memoir I Would Meet You Anywhere. Susan's book, a culmination of 30 years of work, explores her journey as a biracial adoptee—half Japanese and half white—who was adopted at three and a half months old by Japanese American parents. We delved into Susan's origin story, her relationship with her adoptive parents, and her deep desire to connect with her birth mother, Yumi. Susan described Yumi as a charismatic yet ambivalent figure, reflecting on the complexities of their relationship and the cultural stigma surrounding adoption in Japanese society. Throughout our conversation, we discussed the emotional weight of adoption, the challenges of identity, and the universal longing for connection that many adoptees experience. Susan shared how writing her memoir was a healing process, allowing her to articulate her experiences and put down the burdens she had carried for so long. We also touched on the misconceptions surrounding adoption, particularly the notion of "luck," and how important it is for adoptive parents to support their children in their search for identity and connection without imposing their own feelings onto them. As we wrapped up, Susan encouraged listeners to embrace their stories and consider the power of sharing their experiences. Her insights and reflections provide a valuable perspective on the complexities of adoption, making this episode a must-listen for anyone impacted by adoption or interested in understanding its nuances. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Susan’s information: Explore Susan’s website and purchase her memoir: Find her on Facebook: Find her on Instagram: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:12 - Meet the Host and Guest 00:00:44 - Susan Kiyo Ito's Memoir Journey 00:01:27 - Personal Connections and Background 00:02:38 - Susan's Adoption Story 00:04:37 - Cultural Heritage and Upbringing 00:05:37 - Describing Yumi: The Birth Mother 00:06:48 - Cultural Stigma and Secrets 00:07:02 - The Significance of the Title 00:09:46 - Personal Growth and Boundaries 00:10:44 - Emotional Release After Publishing 00:11:28 - The Weight of Connection 00:12:45 - The Complexity of Relationships 00:14:25 - Validation from Other Adoptees 00:15:10 - Sensory Details in Writing 00:16:37 - The Role of Journaling 00:18:19 - Exploring Alternative Life Paths 00:20:54 - Reflections on Luck in Adoption 00:22:54 - Advice for Adoptive Parents 00:25:45 - Support and Understanding 00:26:29 - The Sound of Names 00:27:28 - Connecting with the Author 00:29:33 - Closing Thoughts and Future Works /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/35107150

The Rebellious Adoptee: Finding Healing and Community After a Traumatic Childhood with Dave Sanchez-Brown - Ep 181 01/27/2025

The Rebellious Adoptee: Finding Healing and Community After a Traumatic Childhood with Dave Sanchez-Brown - Ep 181 "The most healing thing for me now has been the support of other adoptees." -- Dave Sanchez-Brown Read the transcript of this episode here: https://app.swellai.com/t/tp_01JJD8EF1R7VJ6J0V5GXRWXJY4 =============== EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the privilege of speaking with Dave Sanchez-Brown, an adoptee who has bravely navigated the complexities of adoption, mental health struggles, and addiction. Dave shared his adoption story, which took a significant turn after he read Dani Shapiro's memoir Inheritance. Inspired, he decided to take a DNA test, leading him to uncover his biological family and the trauma associated with his past. He discussed the overwhelming emotions that surfaced as he connected with his roots, including the discovery of a family history marked by addiction. Throughout our conversation, Dave highlighted the importance of community and peer support in his recovery journey. He emphasized that finding others who share similar experiences has been more therapeutic than traditional therapy. We also touched on the stigma surrounding addiction and mental health, and how society often lacks empathy for those struggling. As we wrapped up, Dave offered valuable advice for adoptive parents, urging them to be aware of their children's emotional needs and the potential for feelings of alienation. He encouraged parents to seek their own healing to better support their kids. This episode is a powerful reminder of the resilience of the human spirit and the importance of connection in healing. I hope Dave's story inspires listeners to seek support and understanding, whether they are adoptees, adoptive parents, or anyone affected by mental health challenges. Thank you for joining us, and remember to stay safe and connected. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Dave’s information: Follow Dave as The Rebellious Adoptee on Facebook: And find him as The Rebellious Adoptee on Instagram: Other resources mentioned in this episode: Dani Shapiro’s memoir Inheritance: DNA Detectives Facebook Group: Search Angels: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Introduction to Adoption Healing Quest 00:02:00 - Introducing Dave Sanchez-Brown 00:02:21 - Dave's Adoption Story Begins 00:03:36 - The Impact of DNA Testing 00:04:21 - Finding Biological Family 00:05:59 - Discovering Family History and Addiction 00:07:28 - Understanding Genetic Influences 00:08:09 - Adoptive Family Dynamics 00:09:00 - Childhood Trauma and Coping Mechanisms 00:10:54 - First Suicide Attempt and Hospitalization 00:12:22 - Parental Reactions to Suicidal Behavior 00:13:27 - Surviving Through Activities and Friendships 00:14:50 - Moving to San Francisco and Coming Out 00:16:09 - The AIDS Crisis and Its Impact 00:18:25 - Struggles with Addiction Post-Partner's Death 00:20:01 - Creating a Fictitious Family 00:21:11 - Revisiting Addiction and Recovery 00:22:35 - Turning Point: Moving to New York 00:23:29 - Support from Other Adoptees 00:24:10 - Coming Out of the Adoption Fog 00:25:03 - Intergenerational Trauma and Its Effects 00:26:43 - Reclaiming Identity as the Rebellious Adoptee 00:27:20 - Navigating the Complexities of Adoption 00:29:20 - Advice for Adoptive Parents 00:32:05 - The Importance of Empathy and Support 00:33:35 - Connecting with the Community 00:34:42 - Final Thoughts, Encouragement, and Resources /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/35000955

Adoption in India: Insights from an Adoptee Therapist with Dr. Asra Ali - Ep 180 01/20/2025

Adoption in India: Insights from an Adoptee Therapist with Dr. Asra Ali - Ep 180 "It's a deep rooted fear of every adoptive parent that the parent will get rejected." - Dr. Asra Ali Read the transcript of this episode here: =============== Join Unraveling Adoption's in-person Adoption Healing Quest in Seal Beach, CA on February 8, 2025. More info and registration here: =============== EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Asra Ali, an adoptee from India whose adoption was facilitated by Mother Teresa. Dr. Asra shared her unique adoption story, highlighting the positive experiences she had growing up in a loving family that embraced her identity as an adopted child from a young age. We delved into the cultural narratives surrounding adoption in India, discussing the historical preference for male children and the significant shifts that have occurred over the years. Dr. Asra explained how adoption practices have evolved, moving from informal arrangements to more structured legal processes to combat issues like human trafficking. As a psychologist and child and family therapist, Dr. Asra works with adoptive families in India, helping them navigate the complexities of adoption. She emphasized the importance of honesty and emotional support for adopted children, noting that many adoptive parents struggle with insecurity and often keep the child's adoption a secret. This can lead to emotional disconnects and challenges for the child. Throughout our conversation, Dr. Asra provided valuable insights into the common mistakes adoptive parents make and the need for open communication about adoption. She also shared her mixed feelings about her own adoption, reflecting on the unanswered questions regarding her biological family. Listeners will find this episode enlightening as we explore the intricacies of adoption in India and the universal themes that resonate with adoptive families worldwide. Dr. Asra's work is a testament to the importance of understanding and supporting adopted children, and I encourage anyone interested in this topic to reach out to her for guidance. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Dr. Asra’s information: Find Dr. Asra on Instagram: Call Dr. Asra on Mobile/Whatsapp: 9742163606 (India) Email Dr. Asra: People throughout the world can reach out to Dr. Asra for various counselling therapy sessions Depression Adoption Emotional distress Low self esteem Public speaking issues/ Social issues Parenting and its types How to handle teenages Impact of Covid on my child's mental health, emotional, social and cognitive decline Grief counselling Loss of a dear one OR pet counselling Early childhood years challenges Handling children with emotional distress Importance of nutrition Mind and body healing Astro travel journey Healing the child in you Impact of food on my body Positive attitude towards self and other Working on negative emotions and energy Communication and its importance for my healing Price for 1-hour session: US$: 80 dollars Canada: 90 USD/CAD UAE: 1000 AED India: 2000 inr Other resources mentioned in this episode: The other Indian adoptee guest on our podcast: “Pride and Resilience: A Transgender Adoptee's Path” with Sanjay Pulver: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:01:00 - Meet Dr. Asra AliIntroduction of Dr. Asra Ali, an adoptee from India, and her unique adoption story facilitated by Mother Teresa. 00:03:00 - Cultural Perspectives on Adoption in India Discussion on the cultural status of adoption in India, including gender preferences and historical practices. 00:06:00 - Domestic vs. International Adoption Insights into the prevalence of domestic adoption in India compared to international adoption and the challenges involved. 00:10:00 - Common Mistakes by Adoptive Parents Dr. Asra discusses the importance of honesty and the emotional disconnect often seen in adoptive families. 00:15:00 - Reflections on Identity and Biological Roots Exploration of Dr. Asra's feelings about her adoption, her desire to learn about her biological parents, and the concept of twinship among adoptees. 00:20:00 - Advice for Adoptive Parents Dr. Asra offers guidance on how adoptive parents can better support their children and the importance of personal growth. 00:24:00 - Closing Remarks and Resources Beth shares information about upcoming events related to adoption healing and how to connect with Dr. Asra. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/34890255

From Secrets to Self-Discovery: A Late Discovery Adoptee’s Story with Brad Ewell - Ep 179 01/13/2025

From Secrets to Self-Discovery: A Late Discovery Adoptee’s Story with Brad Ewell - Ep 179 "I was able to kind of reinvent myself into who I probably would have been at some level had I not been adopted." -- Brad Ewell Read the transcript: EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the honor of speaking with Brad Ewell, a late discovery adoptee (LDA) who learned about his adoption at the age of 48. Brad shared his shocking journey of self-discovery after taking an ancestry DNA test, which revealed a truth that had been hidden from him for nearly five decades. He discussed the confusion and betrayal he felt upon learning that everyone around him had known he was adopted, while he had no idea. Brad reflected on his upbringing, his struggles with identity, and how he tried to fit into a life that never felt quite right. Our conversation also explored Brad's reconnection with his biological family, including his birth father, who had been incarcerated for decades. This relationship has provided him with unexpected closure and understanding. Brad emphasized the importance of community and therapy for those navigating similar experiences, highlighting the need for openness in adoption. His story serves as a powerful reminder of the significance of truth and the healing that can come from embracing one's identity. =============== Join our in-person Adoption Healing Quest in Seal Beach, CA on February 8, 2025. More info and registration here: RESOURCES: Brad’s information: Here are all of Brad’s blog posts and links: Right to Know organization: Find Brad's adoption account on Instagram: Find Brad’s art on Instagram: Other resources mentioned in this episode: Fred Nicora’s another LDA that Brad mentions. He was an Unraveling Adoption episode guest too: =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:44 - The Importance of Truth in Adoption Discussion on the necessity of telling adoptees their truth from a young age. 00:01:05 - Meet Brad Ewell: A Late Discovery Adoptee Introduction of guest Brad Ewell and his experience as a late discovery adoptee. 00:01:46 - Did You Have an Inkling? Brad shares his experience of not having any idea he was adopted. 00:04:50 - The Ancestry DNA Test Revelation Brad recounts how he discovered he was adopted through an ancestry DNA test. 00:10:29 - The Moment of Truth Brad describes the emotional moment he learned he was adopted. 00:12:02 - Connecting with His Birth Father Brad shares the process of finding and communicating with his birth father. 00:17:09 - Building a Relationship Brad discusses the development of his relationship with his birth father. 00:20:33 - Reconstructing Identity Brad reflects on how he has been able to reinvent himself post-discovery. 00:24:44 - Advice for Adoptive Parents Brad offers insights for adoptive parents on the importance of honesty with their children. 00:27:53 - Navigating Loss and Grief Brad discusses the passing of his adoptive parents and its impact on his journey. 00:30:15 - Community Support in Adoption The importance of finding community and support among those with similar experiences. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/34656685

REPLAY Behind the Scenes of Because She's Adopted: A Filmmaker's Journey with Kristal Parke - Ep 178 01/06/2025

REPLAY Behind the Scenes of Because She's Adopted: A Filmmaker's Journey with Kristal Parke - Ep 178 "I truly felt the weight of the world telling the story. I felt like it was a great responsibility, but I had to do it." -- Kristal Parke Read the Transcript here: https://app.swellai.com/t/tp_01JG7AR0SN4Y6M7WW6E7WEK0AT EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Kristal Parke, a talented filmmaker and adoptee, about her acclaimed documentary, Because She's Adopted. As we kick off 2025, we are excited to offer a replay of our conversation, which dives deep into the complexities of adoption and the personal journey Kristal undertook while creating her film. Kristal shares her experiences growing up as a Canadian adoptee, her reunion with her birth mother, and her struggles with addiction and identity. We discuss the unique aspects of her story, including the impact of her Indigenous heritage and the challenges she faced in reconnecting with that part of herself. Kristal's film has resonated with many, winning awards and touching the hearts of viewers, including her own family and film crew. Throughout our conversation, we explore the emotional weight of telling one's story and the healing that comes from vulnerability. Kristal's journey not only highlights the importance of understanding adoption from multiple perspectives but also emphasizes the ongoing impact it has on families and future generations. Join us for a screening of Because She's Adopted on January 11th, 2025, where you can engage with Kristal and ask questions about her powerful work. This episode is a heartfelt reminder of the complexities of adoption and the importance of sharing our stories. Thank you for listening, and I hope you enjoy this insightful conversation with Kristal Parke. Join Kristal for an online screening of Because She’s Adopted on January 11, 2025, at 4pm PST / 7pm EST, including a Q&A with Kristal afterwards. More information and tickets are here: =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Kristal’s information: Check our Kristal’s film’s website to keep informed of future events: Follow the film at Facebook: Or on Instagram: Email Kristal at Watch a trailer of the film Because She’s Adopted: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Welcome to Unraveling Adoption Introduction to the podcast and host Beth Syverson. 00:01:15 - Introducing Krystal Parke Overview of Krystal Park and her film "Because She's Adopted." 00:02:24 - The Impact of the Film Krystal shares her hopes for the film and its emotional impact. 00:04:33 - Support from Adoptive Parents Discussion on her adoptive parents' reactions to the film. 00:05:06 - Reunion with Birth Family Krystal talks about her reunion with her birth mother. 00:06:58 - Exploring Identity and Gender The complexities of identity and gender expectations in adoption. 00:08:19 - Indigenous Heritage Krystal discusses her Indigenous roots and reconnection challenges. 00:10:29 - Journey to Manitoba Details about her significant trip to Manitoba. 00:11:26 - Understanding Residential Schools Explanation of the impact of residential schools on Indigenous peoples. 00:13:09 - The Sixties Scoop Discussion on the Sixties Scoop and its effects on her birth mother. 00:14:58 - Reunion Reflections Reflections on the emotional complexities of her reunion. 00:16:09 - Family Support in Filmmaking Importance of family support during the filmmaking process. 00:18:44 - Brothers' Perspectives Insights from her brothers about adoption and family dynamics. 00:19:51 - The Role of Humor in the Film How humor was used to balance the film's heavy themes. 00:20:45 - Children's Reactions Her children's understanding and support for the film. 00:21:51 - Cultural Connections Significance of cultural identity for her children. 00:23:44 - Filming Experience Memorable moments and dynamics of the filming process. 00:26:02 - Personal Growth Through Filmmaking Krystal reflects on her growth and understanding of her story. 00:27:43 - Future Aspirations Discussion on potential future projects and self-discovery. 00:29:34 - Closing Remarks Beth wraps up the episode and encourages listener engagement. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/34639025

From Control to Acceptance: Parenting Through Grief with Jessica Fein - Ep 177 12/30/2024

From Control to Acceptance: Parenting Through Grief with Jessica Fein - Ep 177 "We followed her lead. And so there was a lot of laughter and there was a lot of beauty." -- Jessica Fein Read the episode transcript here: EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the privilege of speaking with Jessica Fein, an adoptive mother and author of the memoir Breath Taking: A Memoir of Family, Dreams, and Broken Genes. Jessica shares her family's deeply moving and complex journey through adoption and the heartbreaking experience of losing her middle child, Dalia, to a rare genetic disorder. We began by discussing Jessica's family's path to adoption, which was initially rooted in a long struggle with infertility. After years of trying to conceive, Jessica and her husband decided to pursue adoption, ultimately leading them to adopt three children from Guatemala. Jessica eloquently describes the joy and chaos of raising her children, but also the challenges they faced when they began to notice developmental issues with Dalia. As Dalia's health declined due to a rare mitochondrial disease, Jessica opened up about the emotional and practical challenges of caring for a child with a degenerative condition. She shared the struggles of navigating the medical system, the frustration of being more knowledgeable about Dalia's condition than some healthcare providers, and the profound love that persisted throughout their journey. Throughout our conversation, Jessica emphasized the importance of finding joy amidst the sorrow and the lessons she learned about control and certainty in parenting. She highlighted that while we cannot control the outcomes of our children's lives, we can choose how we respond to the challenges we face. Jessica's story is a testament to resilience, love, and the complexities of adoption. I encourage listeners to check out her memoir, Breath Taking, and her podcast, I Don't Know How You Do It, where she continues to share stories of families navigating unimaginable circumstances. Thank you for joining us in this heartfelt discussion, and I hope it resonates with anyone touched by adoption or facing similar challenges. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Jessica’s information: Browse Jessica’s website, including her book, podcast, and essays: Find Jessica on Instagram: I Don’t Know How You Do It podcast: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction Welcome to Unraveling Adoption with host Beth Syverson and guest Jessica Fein. 00:01:03 - Acknowledging Loss Beth expresses condolences for Dalia's death and the complexities of Jessica's story. 00:01:55 - Adoption Journey Begins Jessica shares her family's journey through infertility and the decision to adopt. 00:05:53 - Choosing International Adoption Discussion on selecting Guatemala for international adoption. 00:08:41 - Bringing Home Their First Child The experience of bringing their first child home after a long wait. 00:09:41 - Expanding the Family The couple's journey to adopt three children and their early family life. 00:10:52 - Concerns About Dalia's Development Early concerns about Dalia's development and responses from early intervention. 00:12:06 - Hearing Loss Diagnosis Dalia is diagnosed with hearing loss, raising further health questions. 00:13:08 - Rare Genetic Disorder Jessica explains Dalia's rare mitochondrial disease diagnosis and its uncertainties. 00:14:08 - Navigating Medical Challenges The family's experience with medical professionals and understanding Dalia's condition. 00:16:41 - Dalia's Hospitalization The escalation of Dalia's condition leading to a lengthy hospital stay. 00:18:30 - Life with a Tracheostomy Impact of Dalia's tracheostomy on her communication and eating. 00:19:13 - Communication Challenges How Dalia communicated with her family after her condition worsened. 00:20:34 - Importance of Connection Maintaining connection and communication with Dalia despite limitations. 00:21:02 - Finding Joy Amidst Struggles Balancing joy and sorrow in family life during challenging times. 00:22:06 - Self-Care Strategies Practical self-care strategies for caregivers. 00:23:33 - Dalia's School Experience Dalia's participation in school despite her condition. 00:25:14 - Understanding Awareness Exploring Dalia's awareness of her condition and family efforts. 00:26:32 - Lessons on Control Jessica reflects on lessons learned about control and certainty. 00:28:22 - Role of Writing The therapeutic role of writing in processing experiences. 00:30:22 - Advice for Adoptive Parents Jessica offers insights for prospective adoptive parents. 00:35:09 - Unpredictability of Parenthood Discussion on the unpredictability of parenting, biological or adoptive. 00:38:06 - Conclusion and Resources Wrap-up of the conversation and sharing resources for listeners. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/34627625

Unraveling the Layers of Childhood Trauma with Ron Jenkins - Ep 176 12/23/2024

Unraveling the Layers of Childhood Trauma with Ron Jenkins - Ep 176 "I didn't realize how strong I was until, you know, I got into therapy and started to understand all the things that I've overcome." - Ron Jenkins Read the transcript of this episode here: EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the privilege of speaking with Ron Jenkins, a remarkable individual whose journey through the complexities of foster care and adoption is both harrowing and inspiring. Ron's story begins with the tragic loss of his mother as a young child, leading him and his siblings into the foster care system. He was eventually adopted by a woman who, rather than providing a safe haven, exploited the system for drug money, resulting in a chaotic and violent environment. Ron candidly shares the trauma he experienced, including the loss of several brothers to violence and the pervasive fear that defined his childhood. Despite these challenges, he made a conscious decision to steer clear of gangs and drugs, ultimately finding a mentor who changed the trajectory of his life. This mentor not only provided guidance but also became a father figure, helping Ron navigate his way to a football scholarship at Fresno State University. Throughout our conversation, Ron emphasizes the importance of self-advocacy, therapy, and the need to break the cycle of trauma. He encourages listeners, especially men, to seek help and recognize that they deserve the same opportunities as anyone else. Ron's journey of healing and his commitment to helping at-risk youth through mentorship and advocacy work is truly inspiring. We also touched on the impact of sexual abuse in Ron's life and how it shaped his relationships. He highlights the importance of addressing these issues through therapy, which has been instrumental in his healing process. As we wrapped up, Ron shared exciting news about a movie being made about his life, and he invited anyone interested in supporting this project to reach out. This episode is a powerful reminder of resilience, the importance of community, and the potential for transformation, even in the face of overwhelming adversity. I hope Ron's story resonates with you and inspires you to seek help, advocate for yourself, and support others in their journeys. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Ron’s information: Ron’s email: Documentary coming 2025-2026 - email Ron to find out how best to support that project Other resources mentioned in this episode: Celia Center, led by Jeanette Yoffe: Runaway Girl: Escaping Life on the Streets by Carissa Phelps: Carissa’s nonprofit organization’s website: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction Welcome to Unraveling Adoption with host Beth Syverson and guest Ron Jenkins. 00:01:43 - Ron’s Adoption Story Ron shares his early experiences in foster care and adoption. 00:02:21 - Foster Care Challenges Discussion of difficulties faced due to his adoptive mother's drug use. 00:03:57 - Violence and Trauma Recounting violent incidents and trauma in his childhood. 00:06:36 - Avoiding Gangs Ron discusses his choices to stay away from gang involvement. 00:10:07 - Loss of a Brother Heartbreaking story of his brother's murder and its impact. 00:12:39 - Self-Advocacy Ron reflects on learning to advocate for himself. 00:14:23 - Mentorship Introduction of Mr. Burnett, a key mentor in Ron's life. 00:16:30 - Impact of Sports How sports provided structure and discipline. 00:20:08 - Helping Youth Ron talks about his work with at-risk youth. 00:22:43 - Trust and Self-Advocacy The importance of learning to trust and advocate for oneself. 00:25:04 - Value of Therapy Emphasizing therapy's role in healing from trauma. 00:28:05 - Sexual Abuse Experiences Ron shares his experiences with sexual abuse. 00:33:16 - Relationship Patterns How past abuse influenced his adult relationships. 00:36:10 - Breaking the Cycle The importance of addressing abusive patterns. 00:38:49 - Healing and Strength Reflections on healing through faith and therapy. 00:39:39 - Book Recommendation Ron recommends "Runaway Girl" for inspiration. 00:40:52 - Movie Project News about a movie being made about Ron's life. 00:42:17 - Closing Remarks Beth thanks Ron and encourages listeners to connect with resources. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/34553060

Abortion and Adoption: Insights from Sociological Research with Gretchen Sisson - Ep 175 12/16/2024

Abortion and Adoption: Insights from Sociological Research with Gretchen Sisson - Ep 175 "I use the language of supply and demand because this is a market-based system and it's uncomfortable for a lot of people, right? Because you're talking about a supply and demand of human beings." -- Gretchen Sisson Read the transcript here: EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Gretchen Sisson, the author of the acclaimed book Relinquished: The Politics of Adoption and the Privilege of American Motherhood. Gretchen's work stems from a decade-long qualitative sociological study that delves into the experiences of relinquishing mothers and critiques the American adoption system. We discussed her journey into this research, which began while she was working with pregnant and parenting young people in Boston. Gretchen highlighted the stigmatization of young motherhood and the disconnect between societal narratives and the lived experiences of these women. Her research emphasizes the complexities of adoption, particularly how it intersects with issues of reproductive health and justice. Gretchen shared insights from her book, revealing that the majority of women who are denied access to abortion end up parenting their children, with only a small percentage choosing adoption. This led to a discussion about the implications of the recent Dobbs decision and its potential impact on adoption rates, as well as the troubling commodification of children within the adoption system. Throughout our conversation, we explored the reactions to her book from both the adoption community and the broader public. While many adoptees have resonated with her work, some adoptive parents have expressed defensiveness. We emphasized the importance of listening to adoptees and understanding the systemic issues surrounding adoption. Gretchen also touched on the need for better support systems for both adoptive parents and adoptees, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of family structures and the complexities of parenting. We concluded with a call to action for listeners to engage with the voices of adoptees and to consider the broader implications of adoption in our society. I encourage everyone to check out Gretchen's book, available in various formats, and to connect with her on social media. Thank you for joining us in this important conversation about adoption and its many layers. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Gretchen’s information: Pick up Gretchen’s amazing book Relinquished: Find Gretchen on Instagram: Other book mentioned in this episode: The Primal Wound by Nancy Verrier: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption 00:00:44 - Introducing Gretchen Sisson 00:01:41 - Gretchen's Research Journey 00:02:53 - Understanding Sociology 00:04:10 - Qualitative vs. Quantitative Research 00:05:36 - Impactful Stories in Adoption 00:06:40 - Response to Gretchen's Book 00:07:53 - Abortion and Adoption Dynamics 00:09:03 - Post-Dobbs Adoption Trends 00:10:55 - The Supply and Demand of Adoption 00:12:49 - Financial Aspects of Adoption 00:13:28 - Redirecting Adoption Funds 00:14:55 - Birth Mothers' Financial Needs 00:16:15 - Adoptee Perspectives on Adoption 00:17:37 - Adoptive Parents' Reactions 00:19:53 - Complexities of Adoption 00:22:06 - Supporting Adoptive Families 00:23:39 - Infertility and Adoption 00:25:23 - Broader Perspectives on Parenthood 00:27:39 - Listening to Adoptees 00:29:35 - Final Thoughts and Takeaways 00:31:09 - Where to Find Gretchen's Work 00:31:49 - Upcoming Events from Unraveling Adoption 00:33:05 - Closing Remarks /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/34390575

Navigating Identity: A Korean Adoptee's Journey with Nathan Nowack - Ep 174 12/09/2024

Navigating Identity: A Korean Adoptee's Journey with Nathan Nowack - Ep 174 "I...sometimes I forget that I'm Asian unless I see myself in a mirror." -- Nathan Nowack Read the Transcript: EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Nathan Nowack, a Korean adoptee, professional photographer, and co-host of The Janchi Show. Nathan shared his adoption story, having been adopted from Korea at just five and a half months old and raised in a predominantly white community in Oklahoma. He reflected on his childhood, noting the lack of cultural representation and the challenges of navigating his Asian identity in a world that often sees him as different. We discussed the complexities of transracial adoption, including the impact of his parents' approach to race and culture. Nathan emphasized the importance of understanding and acknowledging one's racial identity, especially in a society that often overlooks these nuances. He shared his experiences with microaggressions and the emotional toll they can take on adoptees, highlighting the need for greater awareness and sensitivity. Nathan also spoke about his involvement with KAAN (Korean American Adoptee Adoptive Family Network) and how connecting with other adoptees has been instrumental in his healing journey. He described the sense of community he found there and the importance of sharing diverse adoption stories, acknowledging that each experience is unique. As a father of three multiple-ethnicity children, Nathan is committed to helping them understand their cultural heritage. He shared how he incorporates Asian traditions and celebrations into their lives, ensuring they have a strong sense of identity. This conversation was rich with insights into the complexities of adoption, identity, and community. I hope listeners find Nathan's story as inspiring and enlightening as I did. Be sure to check out The Janchi Show and connect with Nathan on Instagram for more of his journey and perspectives. Thank you for joining us, and I look forward to our next episode! =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Nathan’s information: Find Nathan on Instagram: Check out Nathan’s Podcast: and https://www.instagram.com/janchishow/ Find out more about KAAN: and =============== =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption Welcome to the podcast and introduction of host Beth Syverson and guest Nathan Nowack. 00:01:26 - Nathan's Adoption Story Nathan shares his background as a Korean adoptee raised in a predominantly white environment. 00:02:50 - Cultural Representation in Upbringing Discussion on the lack of Asian cultural representation in Nathan's childhood. 00:03:50 - Transracial Adoption and Parental Awareness Nathan reflects on his adoptive parents' understanding of transracial adoption. 00:05:32 - The Melting Pot Mentality Exploration of the "colorblind" approach to race and its implications for Nathan. 00:06:52 - Microaggressions and Identity Nathan discusses experiences with microaggressions and their impact on his identity. 00:08:38 - Community and Connection The importance of finding community among other adoptees for support and understanding. 00:09:18 - Involvement with KAAN Nathan explains his role in the Korean American Adoptee Adoptive Family Network (KAAN). 00:10:56 - Upcoming KAAN Conference Details about the next KAAN conference and its themes. 00:11:41 - Healing Through Shared Stories How connecting with other adoptees aids in Nathan's healing journey. 00:12:30 - The Complexity of Adoption Stories Discussion on the varied experiences of adoptees and the ongoing nature of loss. 00:13:44 - Reunion with Biological Family Nathan shares his experience of reuniting with his biological siblings. 00:15:17 - Communication Challenges with Siblings The difficulties of connecting with his siblings due to language barriers. 00:16:37 - Sibling Trauma and Adoption Exploration of the trauma experienced by Nathan's siblings regarding his adoption. 00:17:45 - Parenting Mixed-Race Children Nathan discusses raising his children with awareness of their diverse heritage. 00:19:15 - Cultural Education for Children How Nathan incorporates Asian culture and representation into his children's lives. 00:20:37 - Food and Cultural Connection Nathan's love for food and how it connects him to his heritage and family. 00:21:50 - Living Through His Children Reflections on how Nathan experiences his own identity through his children's upbringing. 00:22:45 - Closing Thoughts and Resources Nathan expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his story and offers ways to connect. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/34296965

Adoption Songs: Exploring the Complexities of Adoption Through Music with Lori Evans Ermi and Kate Ermi 12/02/2024

Adoption Songs: Exploring the Complexities of Adoption Through Music with Lori Evans Ermi and Kate Ermi "I think now that we have this knowledge, then we can use our story to help create awareness." - Lori Evans Ermi Read the transcript here: https://app.swellai.com/t/tp_01JDRMT4Z5RGJ6SD35WBFBT4PM EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of welcoming Lori Evans Ermi and her 17-year-old daughter, Kate Ermi, both of whom are adoptees and co-wrote their new book, Adoption Songs. Our conversation delved into the complexities of adoption from their unique perspectives, highlighting the emotional layers that come with their experiences. Lori shared her journey as a domestic adoptee from the baby scoop era, detailing her late discovery of her adoption at the age of eight and the trust issues that arose from that revelation. Despite having loving adoptive parents, she faced challenges in her identity and connection to her biological roots. Kate, on the other hand, has always known she was adopted and has navigated her own path of understanding her heritage, which was further illuminated through DNA testing. We discussed the creation of Adoption Songs, where each chapter is framed as a track, with contributors choosing songs that resonate with their adoption stories. The book aims to provide a broad perspective on adoption, acknowledging both the joys and the inherent losses that come with it. Lori emphasized the importance of music as a healing tool, and Kate shared her lifelong passion for music, which has been a source of comfort for her. Throughout our conversation, we touched on the significance of community and shared experiences among adoptees, as well as the need for more resources and support for young adults in the adoption community. Lori and Kate's commitment to raising awareness and fostering understanding about adoption's complexities is truly inspiring. I encourage listeners to check out their book and visit their website, adoptionsongs.org, for more information and resources. Additionally, I shared details about an upcoming event, Adoption Healing Quest, which will take place in February 2025, aimed at exploring various healing modalities within the adoption community. Thank you for joining us in this important conversation, and I hope you find the insights shared by Lori and Kate as enlightening as I did. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Lori and Kate’s information: Find their website with info about their book Adoption Songs: Other resource mentioned in this episode: The Primal Wound by Nancy Verrier: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Welcome to Unraveling Adoption Introduction to the podcast and hosts, Beth, Lori, and Kate. 00:01:10 - Adoptee Stories: Lori's Journey Lori shares her adoption story, including her experiences and feelings about being adopted. 00:04:47 - Adoptee Stories: Kate's Journey Kate discusses her adoption experience and her understanding of her identity. 00:06:45 - The Complexity of Adoption Discussion on the layers of adoption and the importance of understanding different perspectives. 00:07:33 - Creating Adoption Songs Exploration of the book "Adoption Songs" and the involvement of both Lori and Kate in its creation. 00:10:43 - The Primal Wound Concept Introduction to the concept of The Primal Wound and its significance in adoption narratives. 00:11:45 - Future Plans for Adoption Songs Plans for a sequel to the book and the inclusion of more diverse perspectives. 00:12:38 - The Role of Music in Healing Discussion on how music plays a significant role in the lives of Lori and Kate. 00:14:40 - Untangling Our Roots Experience Kate shares her experience at the Untangling Our Roots event and the impact of hearing others' stories. 00:18:03 - Navigating Complex Emotions Lori and Kate discuss the complexities of their relationship and the duality of love and loss in adoption. 00:21:29 - Mainstream Adoption Narratives The importance of presenting adoption stories in a way that is accessible and relatable to a broader audience. 00:22:30 - Finding Resources and Support Information on where to find the book and additional resources related to adoption. 00:23:26 - Upcoming Events and Closing Thoughts Announcement of future events and a closing message of gratitude to listeners. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/34202740

The Male Adoptee Experience: Understanding Anger, Vulnerability, and Community with Tim Perdion - Ep 172 11/25/2024

The Male Adoptee Experience: Understanding Anger, Vulnerability, and Community with Tim Perdion - Ep 172 "I almost feel like there was a blueprint, and I was a character to fit into that blueprint." -- Tim Perdion Episode Summary: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the opportunity to speak with Tim Perdion, an adoptee from Ohio who has spent the last decade navigating his journey of self-discovery and healing. Tim shares his experience of being adopted shortly after birth and the feelings of not belonging that plagued him throughout his childhood. Despite growing up in a loving family, he struggled with anger and a sense of isolation, which led him to seek validation through sports and relationships. As a teenager, Tim turned to substances to cope with his internal struggles, leading to a reputation for overindulgence in high school. After facing personal crises in adulthood, including two divorces, he sought help at a trauma and addiction clinic, where he began to confront the deeper issues related to his adoption. Tim highlights the lack of focus on adoption-related trauma in traditional recovery settings and emphasizes the importance of vulnerability and community for male adoptees. He introduces the concept of the "orphaned heart," describing the emotional barriers adoptees build to protect themselves from feelings of abandonment and rejection. Tim encourages younger male adoptees to explore their inner worlds and seek support, reminding them that they are not alone in their struggles. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of the complexities of adoption, the significance of community, and the power of vulnerability. I hope Tim's story resonates with many and inspires others to seek understanding and connection in their own journeys. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Tim’s information: Email Tim at Tim’s Website: Find Tim on LinkedIn: Find Tim on Facebook: Find Tim on Instagram: Books mentioned in the episode: The Primal Wound by Nancy Verrier: Healing the Orphaned Heart: Renewal for the Misunderstood, the Abused, and Abandoned by Casey Treat: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption 00:01:24 - Tim's Childhood and Adoption Experience 00:03:47 - Struggles with Identity and Belonging 00:06:26 - The Impact of Family Dynamics 00:08:56 - Substance Use and Coping Mechanisms 00:10:51 - Seeking Help and Treatment 00:12:08 - Understanding Adoption Trauma 00:14:20 - The Journey of Self-Discovery 00:16:02 - Finding Community and Connection 00:19:05 - The Importance of Sharing Stories 00:20:17 - Challenges for Male Adoptees 00:22:05 - The Role of Forgiveness in Healing 00:24:46 - Learning to Ask for Help 00:27:04 - Advice for Younger Male Adoptees 00:29:44 - Resources and Community Support 00:30:57 - Conclusion and Call to Action /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/34117576

The Plants Are Calling for the Adoption Constellation with Mee Ok Icaro - Ep 171 11/18/2024

The Plants Are Calling for the Adoption Constellation with Mee Ok Icaro - Ep 171 "The plants are always turning everything upside down because our culture is upside down." -- Mee Ok Icaro EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I, Beth Syverson, welcome back Mee Ok Icaro, a previous guest who has shared her profound insights on adoption and healing through plant medicine. This episode is particularly special as we recorded as we prepared for an ayahuasca retreat in Costa Rica, where I participated in my first ceremony under Mee Ok’s guidance. We begin by discussing our feelings as the retreat approaches. I express my excitement mixed with a hint of fear, acknowledging that this experience is far outside my comfort zone. Mee Ok shares her own anticipation and the unique challenges of leading a retreat for the first time, emphasizing the importance of focusing on personal healing rather than taking on the burdens of others. Mee Ok elaborates on the concept of leadership in the context of plant medicine, contrasting it with traditional views. She explains that true leadership often involves humility and a willingness to learn from others, rather than a desire for power or control. This perspective shifts the narrative around what it means to guide others in their healing journeys. As we delve deeper into the preparations for the retreat, we discuss the rigorous dieta we have both been following. This dieta involves strict dietary and behavioral restrictions designed to prepare our bodies and minds for the transformative experience ahead. I share my struggles with giving up my phone and certain foods items and the impact of reducing external stimuli on my mental clarity and emotional well-being. Mee Ok and I also touch on the broader implications of accessibility to plant medicine, particularly for marginalized communities. We discuss the challenges faced by individuals from lower-income backgrounds in accessing these healing modalities and the need for a more equitable approach as psychedelics become more mainstream. Throughout the episode, we reflect on the importance of integration and preparation in the healing process. I share my personal journey with ketamine treatment and how it has helped me move away from antidepressants, highlighting the significance of active engagement in one's healing journey rather than passively relying on substances. As we conclude, we express our excitement for the upcoming retreat and the potential for profound transformation. We plan to record a follow-up episode after the retreat to share our experiences and insights gained during this journey. Join us as we explore the complexities of adoption, healing, and the transformative power of plant medicine in this thought-provoking episode. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Mee Ok’s information: Connect with Mee Ok through her website: Hear Mee Ok’s previous Unraveling Adoption podcast episode, “Ayahuasca for Transforming Trauma and Pain with Mee Ok Icaro”: Hear Mee Ok and Leslie Pate Mackinnon’s previous Unraveling Adoption podcast episode ”Insights from Plant Medicine for the Adoption Constellation with Mee Ok Icaro and Leslie Pate Mackinnon”: Register for Mee Ok’s next Adoptee-Only Medicine Circle here: Other resources mentioned in this episode: Soltara Healing Center (Costa Rica): \ Other Resources: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption Welcome to the podcast and introduction of hosts Beth Syverson and Mee Ok Icaro. 00:02:00 - Preparing for Ayahuasca Retreat Discussion about the upcoming ayahuasca retreat in Costa Rica and the preparation process. 00:03:30 - Emotional Readiness and Expectations Beth and Mee Ok share their feelings of excitement and fear as they approach the retreat. 00:05:30 - Redefining Leadership in Healing Spaces Mee Ok discusses her perspective on leadership and the importance of humility in guiding others. 00:09:00 - The Role of Ego in Leadership Exploration of how ego affects leadership and the qualities of a good leader. 00:12:00 - Accountability in Healing Environments Mee Ok emphasizes the need for accountability and trust in the retreat setting. 00:15:00 - The Importance of Preparation and Integration Discussion on the significance of preparation and integration in the healing process. 00:20:00 - Challenges of Accessibility in Psychedelic Healing Conversation about the barriers to accessing psychedelic treatments for various demographics. 00:23:00 - Personal Healing Journeys Beth shares her experiences with ketamine treatment and the importance of integration. 00:27:00 - The Process of the Dieta Mee Ok explains the dieta, its restrictions, and its role in preparing for the ayahuasca experience. 00:32:00 - Transformative Effects of Disconnecting Beth discusses the impact of reducing phone and media usage during the dieta. 00:35:00 - Commitment to Healing Work Mee Ok talks about the commitment required for serious healing and the importance of discipline. 00:40:00 - The Role of Tobacco in Healing Mee Ok shares her personal journey with tobacco and its significance in the healing process. 00:45:00 - Building Relationships with Plants and Healers Discussion on the importance of relationships with plants and healers in the dieta process. 00:49:00 - Conclusion and Future Intentions Wrap-up of the conversation and reflections on the journey ahead. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/33939297

Finding Empowerment through Sex Work as a Korean Adoptee with Kayla Tange - Ep 170 11/05/2024

Finding Empowerment through Sex Work as a Korean Adoptee with Kayla Tange - Ep 170 Finding Empowerment through Sex Work as a Korean Adoptee with Kayla Tange "I can be in my body, and in that moment, I feel safe." -- Kayla Tange EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the privilege of speaking with Kayla Tange, a Korean adoptee raised by Japanese-American parents. She has navigated a unique and complex journey through life as an exotic dancer, performance artist, and sex worker. Kayla shared her adoption story, detailing her early life in an orphanage in Seoul before being adopted at six months old. We explored how her experiences with ADHD and autism influenced her career choices and her desire for connection. Kayla candidly discussed her entry into the world of sex work, revealing how it provided her with a sense of empowerment and control over her body—something she felt was taken from her during her adoption. Throughout our conversation, we touched on the themes of identity, belonging, and the emotional complexities that come with being an adoptee. Kayla's reflections on her work and the connections she forms with clients highlighted the often misunderstood aspects of sex work, challenging stereotypes and emphasizing the agency she feels in her choices. Kayla also read a powerful piece from her contribution to the anthology Whorephobia, which delves into her experiences and emotions surrounding her adoption and her work. Her insights offered a profound understanding of the intersections between adoption, identity, and the search for belonging. This episode is a deep dive into the complexities of adoption and the ways in which individuals navigate their identities and experiences. I encourage listeners to reflect on Kayla's story and the broader implications it has for understanding adoption and the diverse paths that adoptees may take. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Kayla’s information: Email Kayla: Check out Kayla’s Website: Follow Kayla on Instagram: Watch Kayla’s amazing short film Dear Mother: Here’s the anthology, Whorephobia, that includes Kayla’s essay that she read on this episode: Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption Welcome to the podcast and introduction of host Beth Syverson and her son Joey. 00:00:34 - Today's Topic: Sexuality and Sex Work Discussion on the focus of the episode regarding sexuality and sex work. 00:00:56 - Introducing Kayla Tange Introduction of guest Kayla Tange, her background as a Korean adoptee, and her work in the sex industry. 00:01:52 - Kayla's Adoption Story Kayla shares her adoption story, including her age at adoption and her upbringing. 00:02:32 - Early Interest in Performance Discussion on Kayla's early interest in dance and performance. 00:03:20 - Career Path and ADHD Diagnosis Kayla talks about her career journey and the impact of her ADHD and autism diagnosis. 00:04:49 - Transition to Sex Work Kayla explains how she transitioned into sex work and dancing. 00:05:59 - Job Satisfaction and Flexibility Discussion on the benefits of working as a dancer compared to retail jobs. 00:06:33 - ADHD and the Nature of the Job Exploration of how the job suited Kayla's ADHD tendencies. 00:08:06 - Connecting with Customers Kayla discusses the importance of connecting with customers and building relationships. 00:09:06 - Adoption Trauma and Connection Exploration of the link between adoption trauma and Kayla's need for connection. 00:10:25 - Empowerment through Sex Work Kayla shares her perspective on feeling empowered through her work. 00:12:17 - Commodification of Bodies Discussion on the commodification of bodies in adoption and sex work. 00:13:24 - Feelings of Displacement Kayla reflects on feelings of displacement related to her adoption. 00:14:01 - Experiences in Korea Kayla shares her experiences and feelings during her trips to Korea. 00:15:11 - Creating the Film "Dear Mother" Discussion on the process and impact of creating her film. 00:16:28 - The Power of Performance Kayla talks about the liberating aspects of performing. 00:17:56 - Family Dynamics and Support Kayla reflects on her adoptive family's support and concerns regarding her career. 00:19:13 - Community and Support in the Industry Discussion on the supportive community within the sex work industry. 00:20:12 - Advice to Her Younger Self Kayla shares what she would tell her 12-year-old self. 00:21:45 - Advice for Parents Kayla offers advice to parents about supporting their children's interests. 00:23:49 - Reading from Whorephobia Kayla reads a powerful piece from the anthology Whorephobia. 00:37:04 - Closing Thoughts and Future Plans Discussion on Kayla's ongoing work and future plans, along with closing remarks from Beth. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/33753492

From Ethiopia to America and Back Again: An Adoptee’s Fight for Justice with Mike Davis and Maureen McCauley - Ep 169 10/28/2024

From Ethiopia to America and Back Again: An Adoptee’s Fight for Justice with Mike Davis and Maureen McCauley - Ep 169 "I thought I'll go to the embassy and I'll clear this up. Yeah, that I was adopted legally and I was US citizen." -- Mike Davis READ THE TRANSCRIPT HERE: EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the privilege of speaking with Mike Davis, an intercountry adoptee whose story sheds light on the often-overlooked complexities of adoption, particularly regarding citizenship issues. Mike was adopted from Ethiopia at the age of eight by an African-American single father and grew up in the U.S. However, in the mid-1990s, he discovered that he was not a U.S. citizen, despite his father's efforts to complete the necessary adoption paperwork. In 2005, Mike was deported to Ethiopia, a country he barely remembered, where he faced immense challenges, including language barriers and a lack of support. He shared the harrowing details of his deportation, including being dropped off at the airport with only the clothes on his back and a small amount of money. Mike's story is a stark reminder of the potential pitfalls in the inter-country adoption process and the devastating impact it can have on families. Throughout our conversation, Mike emphasized the ongoing struggles he faces, including the inability to access benefits he contributed to while working in the U.S. and the emotional toll on his family, including his wife and children, who have also suffered due to his deportation. We were also joined by Maureen McCauley, an adoptive parent and advocate for Mike, who has been instrumental in raising awareness about his situation and has created a to assist with his legal and medical expenses. Together, we discussed the broader implications of Mike's story, including the urgent need for legislative change to protect the rights of all adoptees, particularly those who are at risk of deportation. This episode serves as a call to action for listeners to educate themselves about the complexities of adoption and to advocate for the rights of adoptees. We encourage all Americans to support the Adoptee Citizenship Act and to reach out to their Congressional representatives to help ensure that no adoptee has to endure the hardships that Mike has faced. Thank you for joining us in this important conversation. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Donate to Mike’s GoFundMe: Read the book that Maureen edited and that includes Mike's essay, Lions Roaring Far From Home: An Anthology by Ethiopian Adoptees: Check out Maureen's blog, Light of Day Stories: Other resources mentioned in this episode: Adoptees for Justice: Adoptees United: Adoptee Citizenship Act: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Welcome to Unraveling Adoption Introduction of host Beth Syverson and her mission. 00:01:00 - Complexities of Adoption Overview of today's focus on inter-country adoption issues. 00:02:00 - Meet Mike Davis Introduction of guest Mike Davis and his background. 00:03:40 - Deportation Experience Mike recounts his deportation to Ethiopia. 00:05:30 - First Days in Ethiopia Mike's initial struggles upon arrival in Ethiopia. 00:07:00 - Citizenship Realization Discovery that Mike was not a U.S. citizen. 00:09:00 - Adoption Paperwork Issues Discussion on the confusion surrounding Mike's adoption documents. 00:10:30 - Legal Challenges Mike shares his legal battles to prove citizenship. 00:12:00 - Family Impact The emotional toll on Mike's family due to his deportation. 00:14:00 - Criminal Charge Consequences Mike discusses the events leading to his criminal charge. 00:16:30 - Legal Representation Struggles Challenges in finding effective legal help. 00:18:00 - Support from Maureen Introduction of Maureen and her advocacy for Mike. 00:20:00 - Adoptee Citizenship Act Explanation of the legislative efforts for adoptee citizenship. 00:22:00 - Broader Adoptee Issues Impact on other adoptees facing similar challenges. 00:24:00 - Call to Action Encouragement for listeners to support the cause. 00:26:00 - Final Thoughts from Mike Mike's reflections on the injustices faced by adoptees. 00:32:00 - Conclusion and Resources Wrap-up and information on how to get involved. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/33621727

Educating the Next Generation: Adoption Messages in Children's Books with Allison Olson - Ep 168 10/21/2024

Educating the Next Generation: Adoption Messages in Children's Books with Allison Olson - Ep 168 "I can read a book and tell you if it's written by an adoptee, written by an adoptive parent or written by somebody who's just a famous author and someone told him to write about adoption and they know nothing about it." -- Allison Olson EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Allison Olson, an adoptee and adoptive parent who has made significant contributions to children's literature on adoption. We explored her personal adoption story, which began in 1979 when she was adopted as a baby in a closed adoption, and how her experiences shaped her perspective as both an adoptee and a parent to an adopted child. Allison shared her insights on the evolution of adoption practices, particularly the shift from closed to open adoptions, and the importance of representation in children's books. She expressed her frustration with the common narratives found in many adoption-themed picture books, which often portray adoptees as "lucky" rather than "loved." This inspired her to write her own books, including Surrounded by Love: An Open Adoption Story and Learning About My Friend's Adoption, aimed at educating children about adoption in a balanced and loving way. We discussed the challenges adoptees face in educating their peers about their experiences and the need for more resources that accurately reflect the complexities of adoption. Allison emphasized the importance of normalizing conversations about adoption and providing children with the tools to understand and embrace their identities. Listeners will find Allison's work invaluable, as it not only addresses the needs of adopted children but also serves as a resource for their friends and families. I encourage everyone to check out her books and share this episode to help spread awareness about the importance of thoughtful representation in children's literature. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Allison’s information: Check out Allison’s website for her own books plus her lists of children’s books: Find Allison’s books on Amazon: Allison’s book lists: “An Adoptee’s Top 14 Children’s Adoption Books”: “Children’s Adoption Books Written by Adoptees”: Find Allison on Social Media: Instagram: Facebook: TikTok: Other Resources: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption Welcome to the podcast and introduction of host Beth Syverson and guest Allison Olson. 00:01:00 - Allison's Adoption Story Allison shares her personal adoption journey and her experiences as both an adoptee and an adoptive parent. 00:03:00 - Closed vs. Open Adoption Discussion on the differences between closed and open adoptions, including definitions and implications. 00:07:00 - The Impact of Openness in Adoption Allison reflects on the benefits of open adoption and her experiences with her daughter's adoption. 00:10:00 - Challenges in Children's Adoption Books Allison discusses her experiences with children's picture books about adoption and the messages they convey. 00:14:00 - The Need for Balanced Representation Exploration of the importance of balanced narratives in adoption literature, highlighting both love and struggle. 00:17:00 - Creating Surrounded by Love Allison explains her motivation for writing her first book and the intentional choices made in its creation. 00:20:00 - Learning About My Friend's Adoption Introduction to Allison's second book aimed at educating non-adopted children about adoption. 00:24:00 - The Responsibility of Educating Others Discussion on the burden adoptees face in educating their peers and the importance of literature in this process. 00:28:00 - Resources and Closing Thoughts Allison shares her website and resources for finding adoption-related books. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/33521222

Creative Paths to Healing Childhood Trauma with Jonathan Moon - Ep 167 10/14/2024

Creative Paths to Healing Childhood Trauma with Jonathan Moon - Ep 167 “I'm telling all the skeptics who may be listening, just go in there with an open mind because you're not going to lose anything. You have so much more to gain.” - Jonathan Moon EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the privilege of speaking with Jonathan Moon, an adopted person who has navigated the complexities of relinquishment and adoption trauma. Jonathan's journey began in Korea, where he faced significant challenges as a child, including living on the streets and experiencing significant instability. He was adopted to the U.S. at the age of nine and has recently embarked on a path of healing and self-discovery. Jonathan shared his unique story, including his reunion with his grandmother through a Korean TV show and the emotional complexities surrounding his birth family. He discussed the struggles he faced growing up, including the impact of his father's alcoholism and abuse, and how these experiences shaped his identity. Throughout our conversation, Jonathan emphasized the importance of community and connection among adoptees, highlighting how sharing similar experiences can foster understanding and healing. He also opened up about his journey toward healing, which has included acting classes, therapy, and alternative healing practices like myofascial release and ketamine therapy. Jonathan's story is a testament to resilience and the ongoing process of healing from trauma. He is currently working on an artistic film titled Voice of Waters, which aims to share his experiences and insights with a broader audience. I encourage listeners to check out his website and support his work. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Jonathan’s information: Find out about Jonathan's upcoming film, Voice of Waters, and sign up for his website here: Other Resource Mentioned in the episode: The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.: Miofascial release: Ketamine therapy: Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption Welcome to the podcast and introduction of host Beth Syverson and guest Jonathan Moon. 00:01:14 - Meeting at Untangling Our Roots Discussion about the adoption conference where Beth and Jonathan met. 00:02:51 - Jonathan's Early Life Jonathan shares his background, including his birth parents and early memories. 00:05:48 - Life with His Grandmother Description of Jonathan's childhood living with his maternal grandmother. 00:08:00 - Transition to Living with His Father Jonathan recounts the move to live with his birth father and half-brothers. 00:09:20 - Challenges at His Father's Home Jonathan discusses the difficulties he faced living with his father and brothers. 00:12:52 - Living on the Streets Jonathan shares his experiences of running away and living on the streets. 00:15:04 - Adoption Process Jonathan describes how he was adopted to the U.S. and his initial thoughts. 00:18:34 - First Days in America Jonathan reflects on his arrival in the U.S. and the adjustment to his new life. 00:20:34 - Family Dynamics Discussion about Jonathan's adoptive family and his place within it. 00:22:05 - Struggles with Trauma Jonathan opens up about the impact of his past traumas on his life. 00:23:24 - Military Experience Jonathan talks about his time in the military and coping mechanisms. 00:24:18 - Reunion with Birth Family Jonathan shares the story of his reunion with his grandmother and birth mother. 00:27:33 - Confronting His Birth Father Discussion about Jonathan's decision to not reunite with his birth father. 00:28:55 - Journey to Healing Jonathan discusses his healing journey and the steps he has taken. 00:29:24 - Acting and Self-Discovery How acting classes helped Jonathan confront his trauma. 00:31:20 - Therapy and Healing Modalities Jonathan shares his experiences with therapy and alternative healing methods. 00:33:22 - Myofascial Release Therapy Description of myofascial therapy and its impact on Jonathan's healing. 00:35:16 - Ketamine Therapy Jonathan discusses his experiences with ketamine therapy and its transformative effects. 00:37:43 - Profound Experiences with Ketamine Jonathan recounts a significant session where he felt a deep connection with his family. 00:40:31 - Exploring Other Healing Practices Jonathan talks about trying Reiki and other energy work. 00:41:34 - Creating Voice of Waters Discussion about Jonathan's film project and its significance in his healing journey. 00:42:42 - Closing Thoughts and Resources Beth encourages listeners to explore Jonathan's work and upcoming events related to adoption. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/33428607

The Realities of Open Adoption with a Mother-Daughter Duo with Linda and Belle Sexton - Ep 166 10/07/2024

The Realities of Open Adoption with a Mother-Daughter Duo with Linda and Belle Sexton - Ep 166 "I think my mom does a great job addressing this in the book, but open adoption is not without its challenges." - Belle Sexton Episode Summary: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the honor of speaking with Linda R. Sexton, an adoptive mom and author, and her 25-year-old daughter, Belle. This marks our first mother-daughter duo on the podcast, offering a unique perspective on open adoption. Linda R. Sexton is an author, speaker and blogger. She is an adoptive mom of two children, both in open arrangements, and is the author of the award-winning book, . The story is told with frank honesty about the grief and joys of open adoption. Linda includes the voices of all four birth parents, birth grandmothers and her adopted children. She has seen first hand how an adopted child can benefit greatly by knowing and connecting with birth parents and other members of their biological family. Visit her website to learn more. In our episode, Belle shared her adoption story, highlighting her early life in Texas and the open adoption plan created by her young birth parents. She emphasized the importance of knowing her birth family, which helped her navigate her identity as an adoptee. Linda reflected on the emotional journey of waiting for Belle's birth and the profound moment when Belle's birth mother handed her over in a hospital ceremony. We discussed the complexities of open adoption, including Belle's feelings of adoptee's guilt and the importance of maintaining connections with birth families. Both emphasized that while open adoption can be challenging, it is a better option when compared to closed adoptions. For those of you who enjoyed this podcast and wish to know more, The Branches We Cherish: An Open Adoption Memoir is available on Amazon or can be purchased from your favorite bookseller. There are several families involved in the story and most of the names have been changed to protect privacy. (Since you now know Belle, she is Sofie in the book.) This episode beautifully illustrates the complexities and joys of adoption, and I hope it resonates with those on similar journeys. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Linda & Belle’s information: Pick up Linda’s book The Branches We Cherish: An Open Adoption Memoir: Or pick it up at an independent bookstore if you prefer: Explore Linda’s website: If you want to reach Belle, email Linda through her website, and she will get your message to Belle Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption Welcome to the podcast and introduction of hosts and guests. 00:01:26 - Belle's Adoption Story Belle shares her background and experiences with her birth parents. 00:03:15 - Terminology in Adoption Discussion on the vocabulary used to describe adoptive and birth parents. 00:04:16 - Linda's Perspective on the Adoption Process Linda reflects on the emotional journey of adopting Belle. 00:06:06 - The Ceremony of Relinquishment Linda describes the emotional moment of receiving Belle from her birth mother. 00:08:09 - Memories and Keepsakes Belle shares about the memorabilia from her birth family. 00:10:12 - Challenges in Open Adoption Discussion on the complexities and challenges faced in open adoption. 00:12:25 - Understanding Birth Parents' Choices Belle reflects on her birth parents' decision-making process. 00:15:46 - Adoptee's Guilt Belle discusses feelings of guilt and the impact of her adoption experience. 00:19:03 - Navigating Relationships with Birth Parents Belle talks about her relationship dynamics with her birth parents. 00:20:52 - The Impact of Writing the Memoir Linda and Belle discuss the process and effects of writing the memoir together. 00:26:02 - Final Thoughts on Open Adoption Belle and Linda share their concluding thoughts on the benefits and challenges of open adoption. 00:28:49 - Connecting with the Audience Linda provides information on how to reach her and access her resources. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/33309532

The Intersection of Politics and Adoption with Mark H. - Ep 165 09/30/2024

The Intersection of Politics and Adoption with Mark H. - Ep 165 "The way that fascism triumphs is if everyone goes silent and becomes quiescent." - Mark H. EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I, Beth Syverson, welcome Mark, a transracial adoptee from Korea and a passionate advocate for adoption-related issues. Together, we delve into the often-overlooked intersection of politics and adoption, particularly in the context of the upcoming U.S. presidential election. As an adoptive mom of a 20-year-old son, Joey, who is navigating his own path, I feel a deep responsibility to address the complexities surrounding adoption and how they relate to broader societal issues. This election is particularly significant, as it touches on critical topics such as racial justice, women's reproductive rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and the preservation of our democratic systems. With Joey preparing to vote for the first time, I am acutely aware of the stakes involved and the long-term impact our choices will have on future generations. Mark shares his unique perspective as a transracial adoptee and a gay man, highlighting the challenges he faced growing up in a predominantly white environment. He reflects on the societal norms of his youth, where discussing politics was often taboo, and emphasizes the importance of speaking out in today's climate. Mark articulates the existential nature of this election, particularly for marginalized communities, and the need for individuals to engage in political discourse. Throughout our conversation, we explore the implications of having a woman of color, Kamala Harris, as a presidential candidate. While Mark expresses excitement about her candidacy, he also addresses the racism and misogyny she faces, which resonates deeply with his own experiences of being “other”ed. We discuss how the political landscape has shifted, particularly within the Republican Party, and the urgent need for individuals to recognize and confront systemic racism. Mark and I emphasize the importance of activism, not just in the traditional sense of protests and demonstrations, but in everyday conversations with friends, family, and neighbors. We encourage listeners to engage with those around them, especially in swing states, to ensure that their voices are heard and that they participate in the electoral process. As we wrap up the episode, I invite listeners to reflect on their own roles in advocating for change and to consider how their political choices impact the lives of those in the adoption community and beyond. We urge everyone to vote, to educate themselves, and to have open discussions about the critical issues at stake in this election. This episode serves as a call to action for all of us to be brave, to stand up for what we believe in, and to work towards a more equitable society for everyone, especially those affected by adoption. Thank you for joining us in this important conversation. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: If you’d like to connect with Mark H., send him an email through me at . He’s staying anonymous in this episode in order to not jeopardize his job. Respond to this episode on Unraveling Adoption’s page on , , , or . Other resource mentioned in this episode: White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism by Robin J. DiAngelo: Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:01:00 - The Importance of Voting Beth discusses the significance of the upcoming presidential election and its impact on adoption-related issues. 00:02:30 - Introducing Mark Mark, a transracial adoptee, joins the conversation to discuss the intersection of politics and adoption. 00:03:00 - Mark's Background and Perspective Mark shares his experiences as a transracial adoptee and the importance of speaking out in the current political climate. 00:06:00 - The Fog of Whiteness Mark discusses the challenges of growing up in a predominantly white environment and the implications for transracial adoptees. 00:08:30 - Representation in Politics Mark expresses his feelings about having a woman of color as a presidential candidate and the challenges she faces. 00:10:30 - Racism and Misogyny in Politics Discussion on the racism and misogyny directed at Kamala Harris and its impact on marginalized communities. 00:12:30 - Understanding Systemic Racism Mark explains the difference between individual acts of racism and systemic racism in society. 00:14:30 - The Role of White Allies The importance of white individuals engaging with and understanding issues of race and privilege. 00:16:00 - The Stakes of the Election Mark emphasizes the critical nature of the upcoming election and the need for active participation. 00:18:00 - Mobilizing for Change Discussion on the responsibility of individuals to educate and mobilize others in their communities. 00:20:00 - The Importance of Conversations Mark highlights the power of personal conversations in advocating for change and understanding. 00:22:00 - Adoption and Political Interests Exploration of how adoption intersects with political issues, particularly for families of color. 00:24:00 - Activism in Everyday Life Mark discusses how activism can take many forms, including simple conversations with friends and family. 00:26:00 - The Power of Individual Votes The significance of each vote in local and national elections and the moral obligation to participate. 00:28:00 - Conclusion and Call to Action Beth and Mark encourage listeners to engage in the political process and advocate for marginalized communities. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/33241037

Unpacking Adoption Trauma: Insights from an Adoptive Parent with Stacey Uhrig - Ep 164 09/23/2024

Unpacking Adoption Trauma: Insights from an Adoptive Parent with Stacey Uhrig - Ep 164 “They [our kids] can't be more regulated than you are. They can only be as regulated as the least regulated person in the house.” - Stacey Uhrig EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Stacey Uhrig, an adoptive parent and certified trauma recovery coach. Stacey shared her journey into adoption, which began after her own struggles with infertility. She emphasized the emotional complexities and challenges that come with adoption, particularly the trauma that both adoptees and adoptive parents may face. Stacey discussed her experiences raising two boys adopted from Korea and the significant insights she gained about trauma, attachment, and the impact of early disruptions in a child's life. We explored the importance of understanding the emotional wounds that children may carry from their past experiences, even before they come into our homes. Throughout our conversation, we highlighted the need for adoptive parents to do their own emotional work in order to better support their children. Stacey shared valuable resources, including her own ebook, What is Trauma Really?, and her podcast, Flip Your Mindset, both of which aim to educate and empower those affected by adoption. We also touched on the misconceptions surrounding trauma and the importance of approaching parenting with empathy and an open mind. This episode serves as a reminder that understanding adoption trauma is crucial for creating a nurturing environment for our children. I hope this conversation resonates with adoptive parents and encourages them to seek knowledge and support in their parenting journey. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Stacey’s contact information: Look up Stacey’s website: Hear Stacey’s podcast: Find Stacey on Instagram: Download Staceys’ FREE e-book What Is Trauma Really?: Other resources mentioned in this episode: Seven Core Issues in Adoption and Permanency: A Comprehensive Guide to Promoting Understanding and Healing In Adoption, Foster Care, Kinship Families and Third Party Reproduction by Sharon Roszia and Allison Davis Maxon: Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction Welcome to Unraveling Adoption with host Beth Cyberson and guest Stacey Uhrig. 00:01:00 - Stacey's Adoption Journey Stacey shares her path to adoption through infertility and decision-making. 00:03:30 - Challenges in Adoption Discussion on the challenges faced, including school difficulties and a brain injury. 00:06:00 - Understanding Adoption Trauma Stacey reflects on the concept of the primal wound and its implications. 00:08:30 - Lack of Resources The struggle to find support and resources for adoptive parents. 00:10:30 - Importance of Education The need for better preparation for adoptive parents regarding challenges. 00:12:30 - Personal Growth How learning about trauma provided Stacey with grace in her parenting. 00:15:00 - Impact of Early Experiences Effects of early attachment disruptions on adopted children. 00:18:00 - Parental Responsibility The role of adoptive parents in understanding and healing trauma. 00:21:00 - Coaching Approach Stacey explains her coaching methods for adoptive parents. 00:24:00 - Nature of Trauma Exploration of trauma's meaning and effects on children. 00:27:00 - Self-Reflection for Parents Encouragement for parents to do their own emotional work. 00:30:00 - Work with Adoptees Stacey discusses her methods for working with adoptees. 00:33:00 - Conclusion and Resources Wrap-up and sharing of Stacey's website and podcast for further resources. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/33149322

Personal Trust Communities in Adoption with Mike Thorne - Ep 163 09/16/2024

Personal Trust Communities in Adoption with Mike Thorne - Ep 163 "When I was nine years old,...my parents just looked at each other and looked back at me and said, Michael, we just want to tell you that we love you very much and that you're adopted." -- Mike Thorne =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: ============== EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the pleasure of speaking with Mike Thorne, an adoptee and community leader. Mike shared his journey of discovering his adoption at age nine, which profoundly impacted his self-worth. We discussed the importance of building personal trust communities—supportive networks that provide emotional and intellectual guidance, especially for those navigating the complexities of adoption. Mike also reflected on his time as a board member of the National Council for Adoption (NCFA), emphasizing the need for diverse perspectives in adoption discussions. He encouraged listeners to seek out their own support systems and focus on their dreams rather than being held back by past experiences. This episode serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of connection and understanding within the adoption community. I hope you find inspiration in Mike's insights and encourage you to explore his TEDx Talk and memoir for further understanding. Thank you for joining us, and I look forward to continuing this important conversation in future episodes. RESOURCES: Mike Thorne’s information: Watch Mike’s TEDx Talk: Read Mike’s memoir Hustle With Heart: Unlocking Self-Worth Through Personal Trust Communities: Other resources mentioned in this episode: NCFA - National Council for Adoption: Simon Benn’s organization & podcast Thriving Adoptees: Other resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption Welcome to the podcast and introduction of host Beth Syverson and her son Joey. 00:01:00 - Mike Thorne's Adoption Story Mike shares his vivid experience of discovering he was adopted at the age of nine. 00:02:30 - Navigating Adoption Conversations Discussion on the lack of resources and conversations around adoption during Mike's childhood. 00:03:55 - Understanding Late Discovery Adoptees Exploration of the term "late discovery adoptee" and its implications. 00:05:00 - Age-Appropriate Communication in Adoption The importance of age-appropriate discussions about adoption with children. 00:06:00 - Adoptee Perspectives in Education Mike discusses his daughter's experiences as a teacher and the impact of sharing adoption stories. 00:07:00 - Mike's Leadership in Adoption Advocacy Mike's involvement with the National Council for Adoption and the importance of adoptee voices. 00:08:30 - Adoptee Panel at NCFA Conference Insights from the adoptee panel at the NCFA conference and its impact on attendees. 00:10:00 - The Need for Male Voices in Adoption The significance of including male and non-binary perspectives in the adoption conversation. 00:11:00 - Evolution of NCFA Discussion on the changes within the National Council for Adoption and its leadership. 00:12:00 - Mike's Future Goals in Maine Mike shares his plans to connect with local organizations in Maine to support adoption and foster care. 00:13:00 - Corporate Leadership Background Mike discusses his corporate experience and how it informs his approach to leadership. 00:15:00 - The Importance of Personal Trust Communities Introduction to the concept of personal trust communities and their role in personal growth. 00:18:00 - Overcoming Perfectionism in Adoptees Mike reflects on the perfectionism often experienced by adoptees and its roots. 00:20:00 - Building Supportive Networks The importance of finding the right people to support you in various aspects of life. 00:22:00 - Adoptee Spaces and Support The value of finding supportive spaces for adoptees to share their experiences. 00:24:00 - Challenges for Adoptive Parents Discussion on the struggles adoptive parents face in understanding and supporting their children. 00:26:00 - Collaboration Among Organizations The need for collaboration among nonprofits to improve outcomes for children in the adoption system. 00:28:00 - Mike's Vision for the Future Mike shares his aspirations for making a difference in the adoption community. 00:30:00 - Encouragement for Listeners Mike encourages listeners to focus on their dreams and find supportive communities. 00:32:00 - Conclusion and Resources Wrap-up of the episode, including resources for listeners to connect with Mike and Beth. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/33050262

The Importance of Adoptee-Led Initiatives with Jessica M. Luciere - Ep 162 09/09/2024

The Importance of Adoptee-Led Initiatives with Jessica M. Luciere - Ep 162 "I tell every adopted person that I meet that their story changes my own story. And it's the truth. It is the absolute truth." - Jessica M. Luciere In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, host Beth Syverson interviews Jessica M. Luciere, an inter-country, interracial adoptee from Colombia who works at Spence Chapin, a nonprofit adoption agency. Jessica shares her personal adoption story and highlights the importance of adoptee-led initiatives in the adoption community. She discusses the programming she has created at Spence Chapin, including Voices of Adoption for adoptees over 18 and Teen Voices of Adoption for younger adoptees. Jessica emphasizes the significance of community and support for adoptees and adoptive parents, encouraging them to be open, vulnerable, and willing to learn. She also shares her experience of reuniting with her birth family in Colombia and offers advice for adoptees seeking connection with others. Beth and Jessica stress the importance of listening to adoptees' voices and elevating their perspectives in the adoption conversation. Overall, the episode highlights the value of community, support, and understanding in the adoption journey. =============== 📘Pick up our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Jessica’s information: Spence Chapin’s website: Voices of Adoption - support groups for adults and teen adoptees: Jessica's email: Jessica’s Instagram: Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption and Jessica 00:05:30 - Importance of Adoptee-Led Initiatives 00:10:00 - Training and Support for Adoptive Parents 00:13:00 - Growing Up as a Transracial Adoptee 00:15:30 - Reuniting with Birth Family 00:17:00 - Advice for Adoptees Seeking Connection 00:19:00 - Advice for Adoptive Parents 00:20:30 - Resources and Programming at Spence Chapin 00:22:00 - Conclusion and Call to Action /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/32901632

Shedding Light on Children of Priests with Brendan Watkins - Ep 161 09/02/2024

Shedding Light on Children of Priests with Brendan Watkins - Ep 161 "The Church, of course, is doing everything it can to silence victims." - Brendan Watkins EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, the host, Beth Syverson, interviews Brendan Watkins, an Australian adoptee who shares his emotional journey of discovering his origin story filled with religious intrigue. Brendan found out that his birth mother became pregnant in the 1950s and relinquished him for adoption, and later became a nun. He then discovered that his birth father was a Catholic priest. Brendan's memoir, Tell No One, sheds light on the challenges faced by children of priests and nuns. The episode delves into the complexities of adoption, the impact of secrecy and shame, and the need for awareness and support for individuals affected by such circumstances. Brendan emphasizes the importance of mental health support and seeking legal assistance for those in similar situations. The episode highlights the ongoing struggle for justice and recognition faced by children of priests and nuns, urging listeners to educate themselves and support those affected by these issues. =============== 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Brendan Watkin’s information: Check out Brendan’s website: Grab Brendan’s memoir Tell No One: Other resources mentioned in this episode: SNAP (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests): Coping International (Children of Priests International): Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== TIME STAMPS: Introduction to Unraveling Adoption: 00:00:02-00:00:34 Brendan's Early Childhood and Adoption Revelation: 00:01:36-00:03:08 Discovering Birth Mother's Identity: 00:03:28-00:05:14 Revealing Birth Father's Identity: 00:06:34-00:08:53 Insights into Relationship Between Birth Parents: 00:09:19-00:09:51 Discussion on Celibacy and Wealth in the Church: 00:10:32-00:12:53 Impact of NDAs and Confidentiality Agreements: 00:16:15-00:19:01 Support and Justice for Children of Priests and Nuns: 00:20:11-00:22:56 Reflections on the Church's Actions and Victims: 00:23:20-00:26:04 Resources and Conclusion: 00:26:54-00:28:30 /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/32818092

Homeschooling Complexities for Adopted Children with Rae (Adoptee Reclaimed) - Ep 160 08/26/2024

Homeschooling Complexities for Adopted Children with Rae (Adoptee Reclaimed) - Ep 160 "I never learned the word stress until I was 14 years old. And I can guarantee you I was very stressed well before the age of 14." -- Rae =============== 📘 Order our book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, host Beth Syverson interviews Rae, whose handle is Adoptee Reclaimed. Rae discusses how being homeschooled from kindergarten through high school in a conservative family led to feelings of isolation and pressure to conform. She highlights the challenges adoptees particularly face in homeschooling, such as the heightened power dynamic between adoptive parents and adoptees, the lack of diverse perspectives in education, and the impact on social skills development. Rae emphasizes the importance of having additional teachers or group activities to provide different perspectives and social interactions for homeschooled adoptees. She also shares advice for isolated adoptees, encouraging them to be patient with themselves and seek out supportive communities. Overall, the episode sheds light on the complexities of adoption and homeschooling, urging listeners to engage with adoptees and homeschooling families to better understand and support them. Rae's insights provide valuable perspectives on the intersection of adoption and education, highlighting the need for more awareness and support for adoptees in homeschooling environments. =============== RESOURCES: Rae’s information: Find Rae as Adoptee Reclaimed on Instagram: Find Rae as Adoptee Reclaimed on Facebook: Other resources mentioned in this episode: Coalition for Responsible Home Education: Other resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:02 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption 00:01:13 - Introducing Guest, Rae, and Discussion on Homeschooling 00:02:54 - Rae's Experience with Homeschooling and Adoption 00:04:44 - Rae's Initial Thoughts on Homeschooling 00:06:16 - Challenges Faced in Homeschooling 00:08:30 - Impact of Isolation in Homeschooling on Adoptees 00:10:00 - Transition to College and Educational Gaps 00:11:06 - Intersection of Homeschooling and Adoption 00:12:58 - Pressure to Conform in Homeschooling 00:14:31 - Potential for Abuse in Homeschooling 00:15:41 - Educational Gaps and Social Challenges in College 00:17:50 - Emotional Growth and Social Behavior 00:19:44 - Recommendations for Improving Homeschooling for Adoptees 00:22:18 - Ways to Support Adoptees in Isolated Homeschooling Environments 00:26:06 - Advice for Isolated Adoptees 00:28:06 - Conclusion and Contact Information /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/32693617

The Stolen Legacy of Indigenous Adoption with Pete Patton - Ep 159 08/19/2024

The Stolen Legacy of Indigenous Adoption with Pete Patton - Ep 159 "I really want to focus on the collective nature of being stolen, because it wasn't just me. It was the vast majority of Native adoptees." -- Pete Patton Episode Summary: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, co-hosted by Beth Syverson and her son Joey, they interview Pete Patton,LCSW, an Indigenous Inuit adoptee who shares his experiences of being stolen and adopted. Pete discusses the historical context of racism in Oregon and the impact it had on Native American communities there and elsewhere. He also delves into his journey of reconnecting with his Indigenous heritage and the healing process he has undergone. Pete highlights the importance of understanding the collective experiences of adoptees and the need for reconnection with ancestors. The conversation sheds light on the complexities of adoption and the importance of listening to and learning from Indigenous voices. The episode emphasizes the significance of acknowledging and honoring the stories of adoptees and the importance of cultural reconnection for healing. Photo Credit for cover photo of Pete: Alberto Moreno ================ 📘Get our new book Adoption and Suicidality: 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Pete’s information: Contact Pete via email at Find the chapter that Pete contributed to in this book: Altogether Us: Integrating the IFS Model with Key Modalities, Communities, and Trends: Hear Pete on The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems with Tammy Sollenberger: Other resources mentioned in this episode: IFS Institute (Internal Family Systems): Here are the books Pete mentions: Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Wall Kimmerer: 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus by Charles C. Mann: The Rediscovery of America: Native Peoples and the Unmaking of U.S. History by Ned Blackhawk: The Memory of Souls by Cliff Taylor: Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption 00:01:24 - Focus on Being Stolen and Adopted 00:04:32 - Historical Context of Assimilation Policies 00:10:58 - Impact of Cultural Othering 00:14:07 - Connecting with Indigenous Community 00:18:45 - Seven B's of Indigenous-inspired IFS 00:20:20 - Shamanic Death Experience and Spiritual Journey 00:23:20 - Impact of Buffalo Population Annihilation 00:24:43 - Adoption as an Extension of Boarding Schools 00:26:02 - Sharing Collective Experiences of Adoption 00:26:56 - Upcoming Events and Conclusion /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/32613237

Adoption and Suicidality with Joey Nakao, Dr. Joyce Maguire Pavao, Bruce Porth, Janell Strube, Laura L. Engel, Lorraine Dusky, Terri Dreismeier, and Melissa Brunetti - Ep 158 08/12/2024

Adoption and Suicidality with Joey Nakao, Dr. Joyce Maguire Pavao, Bruce Porth, Janell Strube, Laura L. Engel, Lorraine Dusky, Terri Dreismeier, and Melissa Brunetti - Ep 158 Adoption and Suicidality with Joey Nakao, Dr. Joyce Maguire Pavao, Bruce Porth, Janell Strube, Laura L. Engel, Lorraine Dusky, Terri Dreismeier, and Melissa Brunetti - Ep 158 "Despite working hard on a daily or moment-to-moment basis to stay alive, the poem revealed a thin thread of hope that by turning toward and befriending my pain, I might just find a way through it." -- Bruce Porth, one of the book’s contributors ❤️‍🩹 If you or someone you know is suicidal, please call or text 988, the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. (Outside US, call your area’s crisis line.) ❤️‍🩹 Podcast Episode Synopsis: In this special episode of Unraveling Adoption, host Beth Syverson delves into the complexities of adoption and its intersection with suicidality. The episode features conversations with various contributors to the newly released book "Adoption and Suicidality," which includes stories, poems, and resources for adoptees, families, healthcare professionals, and allies. The episode begins with a heartfelt conversation between Beth and her son, Joey, who co-wrote the book. Joey reflects on his journey through mental health struggles and the healing process, emphasizing the importance of sharing their experiences to help others. Following this, Beth engages in conversations with seven contributors from the book, each sharing their personal stories and insights related to adoption and suicidality. The contributors, including Dr. Joyce Maguire Pavao, Bruce Porth, Janell Strube, Laura Engel, Lorraine Dusky, Terry Dreismeier, and Melissa Brunetti, offer poignant readings from their pieces, shedding light on the emotional complexities and challenges faced within the adoption community. Throughout the episode, the contributors discuss the stigma surrounding adoption and mental health, the need for open dialogue and education, and the impact of early trauma on mental well-being. They share personal experiences of loss, grief, and resilience, highlighting the importance of community support and understanding. The episode concludes with a reflection on the powerful and emotional narratives shared, emphasizing the significance of raising awareness, providing resources, and fostering a supportive environment for adoptees and their families. The contributors' raw and honest accounts serve as a catalyst for destigmatizing adoption-related mental health struggles and promoting healing and understanding within the adoption community. =============== 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES from this episode: Purchase the book Adoption and Suicidality through Amazon as a paperback book, e-book, and audiobook: Here’s our website with more information about the book, including the resource list in the back of the book: Find a therapist, coach, or other healing practitioner through the Healing the Adoption Constellation Database: Find adoption-related support groups and other events through our Community Calendar: Contact the contributors who spoke in this episode: Dr. Joyce Maguire Pavao: Bruce Porth: Janell Strube: Laura L. Engel: Lorraine Dusky: Terri Dreismeier: Melissa Brunetti, SMGI® Practitioner: Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== Please rate (*****) and/or review Unraveling Adoption in Apple Podcasts and Spotify (even if you listen to it on another app). Your feedback will help more listeners find our episodes. Thank you! =============== TIME STAMPS Introduction to the Book: 00:00:03-00:02:10 Joey's Reflections on the Book: 00:02:14-00:04:07 Contributors’ Introductions: 00:12:57-00:13:40 Contributor Readings and Reflections: 00:13:40-00:25:17 Discussion on Suicide and Adoption: 00:25:17-00:36:11 Impact of Adoption on Mental Health: 00:36:29-00:39:06 Reading Excerpts from Contributors: 00:40:05-01:01:20 Hope for Readers/Listeners: 01:01:30-01:21:57 /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/32523277

Rituals and Relationships in Adoption Reunion with Elizabeth Barbour - Ep 157 08/05/2024

Rituals and Relationships in Adoption Reunion with Elizabeth Barbour - Ep 157 "I think my mom, my adoptive mom, was probably scared that she was going to lose me to my birth family." -- Elizabeth Barbour EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, host Beth Syverson interviews guest Elizabeth Barbour, an adoptee who has been in reunion with her birth parents and 11 siblings since 1999. Elizabeth shares her personal adoption story and highlights the importance of navigating search and reunion in a healthy way. She emphasizes the need for support, education, and personal growth for all members of the adoption triad. Elizabeth also discusses the significance of rituals and ceremonies in maintaining long-term relationships post-reunion. Additionally, she mentions her upcoming book on adoption reunion and the spiritual journey she has experienced through adoption. =============== 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Connect with Elizabeth at Check out her book, Sacred Celebrations: Designing Rituals to Navigate Life’s Milestone Transitions: Look into the October 2024 Magical Mountain Retreat in Asheville, NC: Find Elizabeth on social media: FB: IG: LinkedIn: Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Adoption and Reunion 00:05:30 - Elizabeth's Reunion Story 00:10:43 - Rituals in Reunion Celebrations 00:13:38 - Impact of Personal Adoption Experience on Parenting 00:15:33 - Family Constellations Workshop Experience 00:17:50 - Advice for Adoptive Parents in Search and Reunion 00:20:24 - Advice for Birth Parents in Reunion 00:22:41 - Spiritual Journey in Adoption and Reunion 00:24:07 - Upcoming Reunion Book Announcement 00:25:15 - Conclusion and Resource Recommendations /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/32419517

Understanding The Foster Care to Prison Pipeline with Desmond DeRoo and Sara DeRoo - Ep 156 07/29/2024

Understanding The Foster Care to Prison Pipeline with Desmond DeRoo and Sara DeRoo - Ep 156 “Love is the biggest and best thing that she did — unconditional love." Desmond DeRoo EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of the podcast, I had the privilege of speaking with Desmond DeRoo, a 30-year-old currently serving his second prison term in Michigan. Desmond, who was adopted by Sarah DeRoo at the age of five after being in the foster care system, shared his experiences of growing up as a biracial child in a small white town in Michigan. Despite facing intense early childhood trauma and struggles with impulsive behavior, Desmond emphasized the importance of unconditional love and support from his adoptive family, especially his mother, Sarah. Desmond provided valuable advice for struggling youth, emphasizing the importance of finding one's passion, surrounding oneself with positive influences, and taking responsibility for one's actions. He also highlighted the significance of seeking community support and resources, especially for adoptive parents facing challenges in raising their children. The episode shed light on the failures of various systems, including the foster care, education, and criminal justice systems, in supporting individuals like Desmond. It underscored the need for greater awareness, empathy, and proactive intervention to prevent marginalized youth from falling through the cracks and entering the prison pipeline. Overall, Desmond's resilience, wisdom, and commitment to helping others serve as an inspiration for adoptive parents and individuals navigating trauma and adversity. His and his mom’s joint message of hope and empowerment resonates with the importance of building supportive communities and advocating for systemic change to create a more inclusive and compassionate society. =============== 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Desmond and Sara’s information: Connect with Desmond and Sara through their website: Buy their book through Amazon: Follow on Instagram: Follow on Facebook: Other Resources: Statistics about foster care and prison that were mentioned in the intro: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: =============== TIME STAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction: Beth Syverson introduces herself and her role as an adoptive mom, setting the stage for the podcast episode. 00:02:41 - Foster Care to Prison Pipeline Statistics: Discussion on the statistics and challenges faced by former foster children in the criminal justice system. 00:06:29 - Desmond and Sara's Background: Introduction to Desmond and Sara DeRoo's story, highlighting their experiences with adoption and trauma. 00:09:12 - Desmond's Early Trauma and Challenges: Desmond's struggles as a biracial child in a small white town, his impulsive behavior, and encounters with the criminal justice system. 00:12:00 - Sara's Parenting Journey: Sara's experiences as a widow raising six adopted kids and blending families, navigating the complexities of adoption. 00:19:12 - Impact of Education System on Desmond: Discussion on how the education system failed Desmond and contributed to his path towards prison. 00:25:48 - Advice for Adoptive Parents: Desmond and Sara share advice for parents, emphasizing the importance of love, support, and seeking help. 00:35:16 - Desmond's Advice for Struggling Youth: Desmond offers advice for struggling youth, focusing on finding passion, surrounding oneself with positive influences, and taking responsibility for actions. 00:42:09 - Desmond's Future Plans Post-Prison: Desmond discusses his plans post-prison, including working with kids and using his experiences to help others. 00:46:55 - Final Thoughts and Advice on Adoption Journey: Desmond and Sara emphasize the importance of community, seeking support, and being open about struggles in the adoption journey. /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/32309037

The Impact of Colonization on an Inuit Greenlander Adoptee in Denmark with Kâlánguak Absalonsen - Ep 155 07/22/2024

The Impact of Colonization on an Inuit Greenlander Adoptee in Denmark with Kâlánguak Absalonsen - Ep 155 "We have only ourselves. And when I'm thinking about that, I'm thinking how strong we are. Because we have survived and still live and still create and still talk about our history." -- Kâlánguak Absalonsen Episode Summary: In this episode of Unraveling Adoption, I had the privilege of speaking with Kâlánguak Absalonsen, an adopted person from Greenland living in Denmark. Kâlánguak shared her unique perspective on adoption, colonization, and the challenges faced by Inuit people in Denmark. She highlighted the impact of colonization on adoption practices and the struggle to maintain cultural identity in a foreign environment. Kâlánguak’s personal journey of self-discovery and reconnecting with her Inuit roots was both inspiring and heartbreaking. She emphasized the importance of giving voice to marginalized communities, like Inuit adoptees, and the strength it takes to navigate the complexities of adoption without the support of family. Through her blog, book, and advocacy work, Kâlánguak is shedding light on the experiences of Inuit adoptees and challenging the narratives imposed on them by society. Her resilience and determination to reclaim her identity serve as a powerful reminder of the strength within adoptees. As the host, I was deeply moved by Kâlánguak’s story and her courage to speak out. I encourage listeners to visit her website, read her book, and support her efforts to amplify the voices of Inuit adoptees. Let's continue to spread awareness and understanding of adoption's complexities and support adoptees in their journey of self-discovery and healing. =============== 📆 Community Calendar: ✨Healing the Adoption Constellation database: 💌Sign up for our Unraveling Adoption email list: =============== RESOURCES: Kâlánguak’s contact information: Discovery Kâlánguak’s website (in English and Danish): Connect with Kâlánguak on Facebook and find her blog posts (translatable on Facebook): Here’s her beadwork on Instagram: Check out Kâlánguak‘s beading handiwork in a video: And here’s the cover of her beautiful book (in Danish) called Lille: Other Resources: APtitude Support Group for Adoptive Parents Facing Adoption’s Challenges: Other Parents Like Me - Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents who have a child struggling with addiction: =============== Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Email questions or comments to Find us on , , and Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Check out our website: Create your own podcast through Libsyn: Time Stamps: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Kâlánguak and adoption in Denmark 00:01:32 - History Lesson on Greenland and Denmark 00:04:04 - Kâlánguak's Adoption Story 00:08:18 - Challenges Faced Growing Up in Denmark 00:11:04 - Learning Style Differences 00:13:35 - Transition to Adulthood and Career Path 00:15:56 - Discovering Learning Disability 00:19:36 - Estrangement from Adoptive Parents 00:22:08 - Impact of Colonization on Identity 00:24:34 - The Impact of Adoption on Kâlánguak's Life 00:26:37 - Advocacy for Inuit People and Adoptees 00:30:26 - Strength and Resilience of Adoptees /episode/index/show/32e8963a-2d90-4f3c-97bb-64ac96ea387d/id/32223572

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