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This week our listener's mother seems to be changing. Taking responsibility, apologising, and listening to all the listener's complaints. So was she ever toxic, or has our listener been wrong about her all along?
Listen to Katie and Helen look at this difficult situation from all angles and offer their insight into what's going on.
"Healing The Shame That Binds You" - John Bradshaw
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