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Guy Young (Ethena) on the Past and Future of Crypto Interest Rates (EP.507)

On The Brink with Castle Island

Release Date: 02/28/2024

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Guy Young, the founder of Ethena, rejoins the show to give us an update on Ethena and to discuss the nature of crypto interest rates.

In this episode:

  • Reflections on the Ethena launch
  • ETH funding rates versus ETH ETF expectations
  • Funding rates on crypto native exchanges versus CME
  • Why Ethena versus doing the cash and carry trade
  • At what point does Ethena start to drive down funding rates
  • The history of the cash and carry trade in crypto
  • Did yield farming represent a real form of yield?
  • Why is yield farming less viable today?
  • The ultimate convergence between tradfi and crypto yields
  • Where risk premia come from for Ethena versus the risk free rate
  • ETH taking yields and their development
  • Guy’s concerns about Eigenlayer and its effect on DeFi
  • Interactions between real rates and crypto rates
  • Stablecoin supply versus tradfi interest rates
  • Crypto yields versus RWA supply
  • The share of stablecoins that is speculative in nature
  • Guy’s expectations for the medium term future of crypto rates