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615: Taylor Swift’s Sacrilege & the Future of the Republican Party with Peter Wehner

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Release Date: 05/01/2024

625: Loving Our Christian Nationalist Neighbors with Caleb Campbell show art 625: Loving Our Christian Nationalist Neighbors with Caleb Campbell

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It’s one thing to fight against a heresy, but what about the people caught in its grasp? Caleb Campbell’s new book, “Disarming Leviathan,” argues Christian Nationalism is an idolatrous, anti-Christian movement, but that we ought to take a gentle, loving, and missional posture toward our friends and neighbors following it. Also this week, Ronald Reagan often said America was a shinning “city upon a hill.” Derwin Gray joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss the phrase, its original context in the Sermon on the Mount, and how Puritan colonists used it very differently than modern...

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As the Supreme Court releases a slate of new rulings the justices appear to be sending a message: "Congress, do your job!" David French explains to Skye Jethani why congressional leaders are increasingly reluctant to take votes or pass laws, how this is making the presidency dangerously powerful, and why the courts are saying it's unconstitutional and harmful to democracy. Then, David tells why his former denomination canceled him—with some members even calling him a "heretic"—despite his full agreement with all of their doctrine and positions. Why are so many churches being driven by fear...

623: Posting the 10 Commandments & America’s Secular Future with John Dickson show art 623: Posting the 10 Commandments & America’s Secular Future with John Dickson

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Louisiana has passed a law requiring the Ten Commandments be posted in every public school classroom. Supporters say it’s about respecting history, law, and the country’s religious heritage. Critics argue it’s completely unconstitutional. What’s really behind the new law? John Dickson says secularism in Australia is ten years ahead of the U.S., and there are valuable lessons the American church can learn from his country about how to thrive in a post-Christian society. Also this week—after two more megachurch pastor scandals we have to ask what’s wrong with our ministry culture....

622: How Ideological Purity is Killing Churches with Ryan Burge show art 622: How Ideological Purity is Killing Churches with Ryan Burge

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Remember when churches were seeker-sensitive? The goal was to grow by welcoming newcomers, skeptics, and non-believers. But now it seems some evangelical churches and denominations are more worried about ideological purity than outreach. Sociologist, political scientists, and pastor Ryan Burge is back to talk about the self-defeating trend toward subtraction rather than addition in the church. Also this week, the Southern Baptists decide not to ban all women pastors…yet. Megan Basham claims evangelical leaders aren’t selling out to conservative constituents, but to gain the approval of...

621: The Rise of Christian Extremism with Elizabeth Neumann show art 621: The Rise of Christian Extremism with Elizabeth Neumann

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After working for the Department of Homeland Security, and more than twenty years as a counterterrorism expert, Elizabeth Neumann says the greatest threat to the U.S. is no longer international Islamic terrorism but domestic Christian extremists. She discusses her new book, “Kingdom of Rage,” with Skye and how conspiracy theories and violent political ideologies have infiltrated American evangelicalism. Also this week, the Southern Baptists debate which is the greater threat to the faith—the Nicene Creed or female pastors. And new data says drinking and smoking has plummeted among...

620: Applying the 7 Deadly Sins in a Secular Age with Elizabeth Oldfield show art 620: Applying the 7 Deadly Sins in a Secular Age with Elizabeth Oldfield

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Lord Acton famously said, “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Was he right? Mike Erre is back to discuss the way Christians think about power, and why he believes our pursuit of power over the world is not the way of Jesus. Then, author Elizabeth Oldfield talks with Kaitlyn about her new book, “Fully Alive,” which uses the Seven Deadly Sins as a bridge for introducing secular people to the wisdom of Christianity. Also this week—the verdict in the Trump trail, a very unique fossil museum opens in Arizona, and Phil creates a fun new game for Christians called “Is...

French Friday: The Trump Verdict, Flawed Heroes, & Shogun show art French Friday: The Trump Verdict, Flawed Heroes, & Shogun

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The verdict is in and Donald Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts in the hush money trial. Skye Jethani and David French discuss the political implications of the guilty verdict. While neither believe the verdict will have any impact on Trump’s base, David thinks it could erode support among supporters on the bubble, but Skye remains unconvinced. Then, they discuss how we should address the legacies of historical heroes who left behind complex and sometimes troubling legacies. Is it appropriate to honor and celebrate certain aspects of these figures, or should their significant flaws...

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In a recent 60 minutes interview, Pope Francis sparked controversy when he claimed that humans are fundamentally good. Katelyn Beaty joins Phil and Kaitlyn to discuss the Pope's comments, and why our theology needs to include both the doctrine that all humans are made in the image of God and an understanding of original sin. Also, new survey data suggests that the "Religious Nones" have plateaued and religious affiliation among Gen Z is on the rise. We discuss why this might be happening and how the "weirdness" of Christianity is what makes it appealing to so many people right now. Then Skye...

618: Commencement Controversy & Racial Reconciliation with Latasha Morrison show art 618: Commencement Controversy & Racial Reconciliation with Latasha Morrison

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Kansas City Chiefs Kicker, Harrison Butker, recently gave a controversial commencement address at Benedictine College where he drew on some popular conservative talking points about Pride Month, Covid 19 policies, and the calling of women in the home. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the problems they had with the speech, as well as their frustrations with some of the criticism of the speech, and how Butker's views seem to have been influenced more by conservative politics than the historic Catholic position on these issues. Then, Kaitlyn sits down with Latasha Morrison to talk about her new...

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Swifties are celebrating the record-breaking release of two new albums, but some conservative Christians are not happy. They’re accusing Taylor Swift of mocking Christianity and promoting witchcraft. Our resident Swiftie, Kaitlyn Schiess, explains the controversy. Then, former presidential speechwriter and contributor to The Atlantic, Pete Wehner, talks with Skye about the future of the Republican Party. Will the Trump spell ever break? Also this week—the end of America’s monoculture, and how dumb were dinosaurs?

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4:50 - Update on Phil

6:08 - Dinosaurs—Were They Smart?

13:00 - Is Taylor Swift Mocking Christians?

15:12 - Taylor Swift’s Bohemian Mishmash

18:12 - Artistic vs Political Usage of Biblical Language

23:13 - Taylor Swift and Kids

23:23 - Children and Public Spaces

31:02 - Portrayal vs Endorsement

35:18 - Everything is a Cult Now and 20th Century Communication Technology

40:17 - What Even is Mainstream?

44:27 - Labels and the Good Samaritan

50:14 - Choice and Community

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58:13 - Interview

1:03:48 - What Radicalized the Republican Voter Base?

1:08:25 - Where There Signs 20 Years Ago That Radicalization Was Coming? 

1:11:30 - Pro-Life Republicans Changing Their Stances?

1:22:20 - What’s the Future for the GOP?

1:33:58 - End Credits


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