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619: Human Sinfulness and the Evangelical Legacy of Slavery

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Release Date: 05/29/2024

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0:00 - Intro

 

1:36 - Show Starts

 

2:58 - Theme Song

 

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5:39 - Italian Island Overrun by Goats

 

10:31 - Pope Francis Calls Humans “Fundamentally Good?”

 

28:20 - Ryan Burge and the Plateauing of the Nones

 

45:57 - Florida Priest Bites Woman

 

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51:17 - Interview

 

59:56 - Opposing Slave Trade, but Not Slavery

 

1:09:47 - How Edwards, Whitfield, and Wesley Influenced Attitudes About Slavery

 

1:20:05 - Avoiding Moral Blindspots

 

1:27:12 - End Credits



Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Alicudi: Italian Island Offers Goats Up for Adoption

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68731003

 

Pope Francis Draws Accusations of Heresy for Saying Humans are Good

https://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-draws-accusations-of-heresy-for-saying-humans-good.html

 

Ryan Burge and Nones Plateau

https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/the-nones-have-hit-a-ceiling?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=6smb2&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

 

Florida Priest Admits Biting Woman in Defense of Eucharist

https://www.ncronline.org/news/florida-priest-admits-biting-woman-last-resort-defense-save-eucharist

 

Other resources:

Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield by Sean McGever: https://a.co/d/7SrPAZu

 

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