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638: Keep Christianity Weird & Lessons from the Church Abuse Scandal with Kristen Kobes Du Mez

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Release Date: 10/09/2024

697: Cancelling “Judeo-Christian,” Defending Slavery, & Rethinking Gaza with J. Ross Wagner show art 697: Cancelling “Judeo-Christian,” Defending Slavery, & Rethinking Gaza with J. Ross Wagner

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The term “Judeo-Christian” has been used by the Religious Right for decades as a positive shorthand for biblical values in the culture, so why are conservative Christians now rejecting the label? And why are Christian defenses of slavery and the Confederacy gaining popularity 160 years after the Civil War? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn explain how the rising influence of Christian nationalism drives both trends. J. Ross Wagner, editor of the new book, “Being Christian After the Desolation of Gaza,” talks to Skye about how both American and Palestinian Christians are reexamining evangelical...

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696: Transcending Our Political Divisions & Labels with Andy Beshear show art 696: Transcending Our Political Divisions & Labels with Andy Beshear

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695: Analyzing the Blue Wave & Why the Church Still Matters with Carmen Joy Imes show art 695: Analyzing the Blue Wave & Why the Church Still Matters with Carmen Joy Imes

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692: Vertical vs. Horizontal Morality & Rediscovering Confession with Jamin Goggin show art 692: Vertical vs. Horizontal Morality & Rediscovering Confession with Jamin Goggin

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A recent article tries to explain why so many politically active Christians behave unchristianly in the public square by differentiating “vertical” and “horizontal” sources of morality. The Holy Post crew examines the argument and finds it weak. Has MAGA ignited a revival in the U.S.? David French says we may be confusing a political revolution for a spiritual revival. Jamin Goggin joins Skye to discuss recovering the practice of confession in our churches. Goggin says it should start with pastors. Also this week—man does not live by 1200-year-old bread alone.   0:00 - Show...

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691: The Antichrist, Illiberalism, & Why Gen Z Accepts Political Violence with Elizabeth Neumann show art 691: The Antichrist, Illiberalism, & Why Gen Z Accepts Political Violence with Elizabeth Neumann

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Being a cultural Christian used to be an insult, but more people are embracing the label with pride. The Holy Post crew unpacks what’s behind the growing affection for cultural Christianity, and they explain why it’s more important than ever to embrace the weird, supernatural beliefs of the faith. Historian Kristen Kobes Du Mez is back to discuss her new documentary, “For Our Daughters,” about the sexual abuse scandals that have shaken the faith of many in the church. She sees a link between the theology and culture that created and covered-up sexual abuse in the church, and the rise of political idolatry within evangelicalism. Also this week—hurricanes are now political, and a Haitian pastor in New Hampshire with a sense of humor invites pets to his church.

 

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0:00 - Intro

 

1:18 - Show Starts

 

3:24 - Theme Song

 

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7:18 - Terry Gilliam’s News of the Butt

 

10:30 - Haitian Priest Blesses Pets

 

15:05 - Hurricane Helene

 

23:02 - Cultural Christianity Michael Bird Article 

 

34:58 - Why Christian Beliefs are Necessary for Christian Virtue

 

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56:00 - Interview

 

1:02:26 - How Women are Blamed for Men’s Sins

 

1:08:47 - Are Churches Better Prepared to Address Sexual Abuse?

 

1:14:54 - Is the Culture More Likely to Call Out Abuse Now?

 

1:18:17 - The Link Between January 6 and Sexual Abuse Scandals

 

1:24:04 - Will There Be a Church Backlash if Kamala Wins?

 

1:29:04 - End Credits  

 

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Haitian Priest Blesses Pets:

https://religionnews.com/2024/10/06/in-new-hampshire-a-haitian-priest-blesses-animals-defeating-internet-pet-eating-rumors-with-laughter/

 

Disaster Relief for Hurricane Helene:

https://www.bpr.org/bpr-news/2024-09-28/list-ways-to-donate-and-help-flood-victims-in-western-north-carolina-after-hurricane-helene

 

The Rise of Cultural Christianity:

https://michaelfbird.substack.com/p/the-rise-of-cultural-christianity?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=313362&post_id=148631936&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=6smb2&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

 

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