loader from loading.io

Episode 88: Modernizing Great Lakes Shipping: Navigating Automation and Digitalization with Mark Barker

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Release Date: 10/15/2024

Episode 138: Weather, Risk & Maritime Decision Making with Amy Buhl of Weathernews show art Episode 138: Weather, Risk & Maritime Decision Making with Amy Buhl of Weathernews

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Episode 138: Weather, Risk & Maritime Decision Making with Amy Buhl of Weathernews Guest: l, Service Operations Leader at Episode Overview Weather impacts every voyage, every day, yet it often operates quietly in the background of maritime decision-making. In this episode of The Last Dinosaur, Chris sits down with Amy Buhl, Service Operations Leader at Weathernews, to discuss how weather intelligence, vessel operations, connectivity, vessel performance, and voyage optimization are becoming increasingly interconnected. Drawing on more than two decades of experience, Amy explains how voyage...

info_outline
Episode 137: Fuel, Data, and Real Margins – Building a Modern Bunkering Business with Daniel Rose of Shipergy show art Episode 137: Fuel, Data, and Real Margins – Building a Modern Bunkering Business with Daniel Rose of Shipergy

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Episode 137: Fuel, Data, and Real Margins – Building a Modern Bunkering Business with Daniel Rose of Shipergy Guest: , Co-Founder, Episode Overview: What does it take to build a modern trading business in one of shipping’s oldest markets? In Episode 137, Daniel Rose shares how he co-founded Shipergy and scaled it from zero to over $200M in revenue, all while building data-driven tools that challenge how fuel is bought and valued. From early-stage chaos to AI-enabled operations, this is a grounded look at where technology really works and where it doesn’t. Key Moments   00:10...

info_outline
Episode 136: Translating Maritime Innovation – From Shipyards to Startups with Caitlin Hardy show art Episode 136: Translating Maritime Innovation – From Shipyards to Startups with Caitlin Hardy

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Episode 136: Translating Maritime Innovation – From Shipyards to Startups with Caitlin Hardy Guest: , Founder & Managing Director, Episode Overview: Caitlin Hardy joins The Last Dinosaur to break down what it really takes to bring technology into maritime, from shipbuilding and subsea systems to startups trying to find product-market fit. Drawing on her experience across naval architecture, Kongsberg, and now Ness Sea, Caitlin offers a clear-eyed view of why adoption is hard, who drives innovation, and why the industry still struggles to tell its story. This conversation touches on...

info_outline
Episode 135: Beyond Compliance – The Reality of Seafarer Wellbeing with Meei Wong show art Episode 135: Beyond Compliance – The Reality of Seafarer Wellbeing with Meei Wong

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Episode Overview: A conversation that challenges how the industry defines “wellbeing.” Founder and CEO of , breaks down why compliance-driven metrics miss the real picture onboard—and why trust, culture, and incentives are the real barriers to improving life at sea. Timestamps: 00:05 – Introduction and Meei’s journey into seafarer welfare 02:23 – A broken system: industry value vs reliance on charities 05:20 – What wellbeing actually looks like onboard vs compliance metrics 10:36 – Why self-reported data misses the reality 13:08 – Health gaps, underreporting, and life...

info_outline
Episode 134: Why Maritime Still Isn’t Connected – And What It Will Take to Fix It show art Episode 134: Why Maritime Still Isn’t Connected – And What It Will Take to Fix It

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Guest: , Principal Engineer at Chair, Episode Overview: Maritime has no shortage of digital tools. What it lacks is connection. In this episode, speaks with Tim Morris about why shipping still operates in silos while other transport sectors have evolved into fully connected systems. They explore what intelligent transport systems (ITS) really mean in a maritime context, where the industry is falling short, and how better coordination across ports, vessels, and landside logistics could unlock efficiency, resilience, and sustainability. Key Moments 00:05 – Introduction Chris sets the...

info_outline
Episode 133: The Human Side of Shipping: Seafarer Welfare in a Connected World show art Episode 133: The Human Side of Shipping: Seafarer Welfare in a Connected World

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Episode 133: The Human Side of Shipping: Seafarer Welfare in a Connected World Episode Overview Recorded live at , this roundtable pulls back the curtain on seafarers’ welfare in modern shipping. Chris sits down with , , and to explore how digital transformation is reshaping life for crews when ships come into port. From Starlink and onboard connectivity to WhatsApp communication, e-commerce logistics, and social media visibility, this conversation highlights how seafarer welfare has evolved into a critical part of the maritime ecosystem. It also brings into focus a more immediate reality....

info_outline
Episode 132: How Cargill Thinks About Decarbonization, Risk, and the Future of Shipping with Jan Dieleman show art Episode 132: How Cargill Thinks About Decarbonization, Risk, and the Future of Shipping with Jan Dieleman

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Episode 132: How Cargill Thinks About Decarbonization, Risk, and the Future of Shipping with Jan Dieleman Guest: Jan Dieleman President, Ocean Transportation — Cargill Chair, Global Maritime Forum Episode Overview In this episode of The Last Dinosaur, Chris Aversano speaks with , President of Ocean Transportation at and Chair of the . Cargill charters hundreds of vessels across global trades at any given time, moving grains, energy products, and raw materials around the world. From that vantage point, Jan offers a unique charterer perspective on how shipping decisions are made. Hint: it is...

info_outline
Episode 131: Driving Change in Maritime, and Why Port Calls Still Feel Like Orchestrated Chaos show art Episode 131: Driving Change in Maritime, and Why Port Calls Still Feel Like Orchestrated Chaos

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Episode 131: Driving Change in Maritime, and Why Port Calls Still Feel Like Orchestrated Chaos Guest: , CEO and Co-Founder, Also: Host of the vodcast Special Note: This is a co-produced episode and will be released on both The Last Dinosaur and Teqplay’s vodcast Driving Change in Maritime with Teqplay Episode Overview: This one is a true back and forth. Léon and Chris co-host a joint episode that moves from the reality of port call complexity to why “visibility” is still surprisingly hard, and how digital twins can make maritime data usable in the moments that matter. They also dig...

info_outline
Episode 130: Risk Is Changing, Lets Talk P&I Clubs, Digitalization, and the New Reality of Maritime Insurance show art Episode 130: Risk Is Changing, Lets Talk P&I Clubs, Digitalization, and the New Reality of Maritime Insurance

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Guest: CEO, Episode Overview Shipping has always been about risk. But the nature of that risk is shifting. In this episode, I sit down with Thomas Nordberg, CEO of The Swedish Club, to explore how maritime risk has evolved from vessel-centric, event-driven incidents to complex systemic exposures shaped by geopolitics, regulation, cyber threats, and digital transformation. This is not a conversation about premiums and policies. It is a practical look at how insurers are adapting, how shipowners should be thinking differently, and why the P&I club model may be more relevant today than...

info_outline
Episode 129:  Decarbonization That Actually Works; Founder Lessons with Gordana Ilic, PhD of BetterSea show art Episode 129: Decarbonization That Actually Works; Founder Lessons with Gordana Ilic, PhD of BetterSea

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Guest: — Co-Founder & Co-CEO, and host of Episode Overview: Gordana Ilic didn’t come up through shipping.  Gordana’s path was through sustainability, entrepreneurship, corporate innovation, then into Maersk’s decarbonization work before returning to entrepreneurship. In this episode, we go beyond regulation talk and into what’s really happening in the market: how FuelEU is being received, why smaller owners moved faster than some of the giants, what pooling is changing culturally and commercially, and what founders learn the hard way about building in an industry that’s...

info_outline
 
More Episodes

Episode Title: Modernizing Great Lakes Shipping: Navigating Automation and Digitalization with Mark Barker

Guest: Mark Barker, President, Interlake Maritime Services

Episode Overview:
In this episode, host Christopher Aversano speaks with Mark Barker, President of Interlake Maritime Services. They explore the technological evolution of Great Lakes shipping, focusing on the integration of automation, digitization, and connectivity with Starlink. Mark shares insights into how Interlake is modernizing its fleet, preserving crew welfare, and leveraging social media to build its brand in an industry often overlooked by the public.

Key Points:

  1. The Evolution of Great Lakes Shipping:
    Mark discusses Interlake's transformation from a steamship company to a modern fleet equipped with diesel plants and automated systems. He highlights the challenges and rewards of updating older ships for today's technological demands.
  2. Digitization and Automation on Board:
    Over the past 15+ years, Interlake has focused on digitalization through automation. Mark explains how the company has transitioned from full watch-standing to unmanned engine rooms, which improves efficiency while maintaining safety and operational control.
  3. Crew Connectivity with Starlink:
    Interlake is one of the first companies to adopt Starlink’s maritime service, allowing crews to stay connected with their families. This technology has enhanced both crew welfare and ship operations by providing real-time data and communication capabilities.
  4. Sustainability in Shipping:
    The company's efforts go beyond digitization. Mark highlights how Interlake's bulk carriers play a key role in supporting the US blast furnace steelmaking industry, transporting materials like iron ore and coal more efficiently than rail or road. As Mark says, "We’re moving the building blocks of America across the Great Lakes—iron ore, road salt, stone, and coal—making sure the foundation of the US economy stays strong."
  5. Challenges of IT and Digital Systems in Maritime:
    Christopher and Mark discuss the often-underestimated complexities of implementing IT solutions on ships. They emphasize the importance of preparation, ongoing training, and careful resource allocation to ensure successful modernization efforts.
  6. Embracing Social Media for Branding and Recruitment:
    Mark touches on how Interlake uses platforms like YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram to showcase life on the Great Lakes and attract the next generation of maritime professionals. 
  7. Career Opportunities in the Great Lakes Shipping Industry:
    Mark highlights the upward mobility within Great Lakes shipping, where individuals can start as deckhands and rise to captain. With the industry's increasing digitalization and improved working conditions, it's an attractive option for those seeking a fulfilling career. “Our ships may be on the Great Lakes, but the impact we have is national. We're keeping the heart of the US economy moving—quietly, but powerfully," Mark adds.

Learn More:
If you enjoyed this episode, check out our earlier discussion with fellow ship owner Scott Bergeron Managing Director at Oldendorff Carriers GmbH & Co. KG

 

 

Tune in Now:
Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube! Watch the full episode on YouTube for an in-depth look at the latest developments in Great Lakes shipping.

Music by: Peg and The Rejected – King of SKA

Art Work By: GA Design

Produced by: Chris Aversano

Support Our Podcast:
Found value in this episode? Please rate us 5-stars, follow, and share! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Su