The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Join Christopher Aversano, a seasoned maritime industry expert, as he delves into the fascinating world of digitization in shipping on this interview-style podcast. Gain insights from leading professionals and innovators on the latest trends, technologies, and best practices shaping the maritime industry. Whether you're a seasoned seafarer, a tech enthusiast, or just curious about the future of shipping, this podcast is the perfect place to explore the cutting-edge of digital transformation in one of the world's oldest and most essential industries.

Episode 110: Rebuilding Shipbuilding – Remote Work, Training & the Future of U.S. Yards with TotalTek Jason Lloyd 06/17/2025

Episode 110: Rebuilding Shipbuilding – Remote Work, Training & the Future of U.S. Yards with TotalTek Jason Lloyd Episode 110: Rebuilding Shipbuilding – Remote Work, Training & the Future of U.S. Yards Guest: Senior Executive at Episode Overview: Jason Lloyd brings over three decades of leadership experience, forged in the U.S. Navy’s nuclear power program, to the conversation on reviving America’s shipbuilding capabilities. In this episode, he explores how TotalTek is pioneering remote workforce models in ship design and engineering, tackling the shipyard talent gap, and creating pathways for the next generation of maritime professionals. From welding lessons of WWII to the promise of the , this is a forward-looking take on a critical national issue. Key Points: A Historical Wake-Up Call: The U.S. went from building 5,000 ships in WWII to just 12 per year today—Jason breaks down the policy decisions that led to this decline and what must change. Remote Work in Ship Design: TotalTek has embraced a distributed engineering model, proving that with the right values, remote work can unlock a new, untapped labor pool across the country. Training the Next Generation: TotalTech’s partnership with Gulf Coast Community College helps new designers gain practical experience, breaking the “3 years of experience for an entry-level job” paradox. Bridging the Industrial Gap: Rebuilding capacity isn't just about welders—America is also facing a critical shortage of ship designers and engineers. Remote work and targeted training are part of the solution. The SHIPS Act – Hope on the Horizon: With bipartisan support and a focus on both infrastructure and workforce development, this proposed legislation could reshape U.S. maritime capabilities. New Collar Work, New Thinking: Additive manufacturing, cold spray, and other advanced techniques may be key to scaling up shipbuilding—if the U.S. embraces risk and innovation. From Skeptic to Believer: Jason candidly shares how he once doubted remote work—until he realized that getting the best people in the right roles matters more than where they sit. Learn More: Check out for a broader look at how innovation intersects with workforce trends in shipping. Tune in Now: Available on , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/37014365

Episode 109: Mental Health at Sea – A Real Talk with Pam Kern 06/03/2025

Episode 109: Mental Health at Sea – A Real Talk with Pam Kern Episode 109: Mental Health at Sea – A Real Talk with Pam Kern Guest: , MSLCSW, Director of Maritime Mental Health Services, Episode Overview: In this powerful episode, sits down with Pam Kern, a former cruise ship officer turned licensed clinical social worker, to explore the often unspoken realities of mental health at sea. Pam brings deep insight from both her 18 years aboard cruise ships and her current role supporting seafarers through Port Medical Management. From the psychological toll of constant connectivity to the role of leadership in shaping onboard culture, this episode dives into what it really means to stay well in today’s maritime world. Key Points: Life Aboard Cruise Ships: Pam reflects on her 18 years managing front-of-house operations on cruise ships, sharing lessons about human behavior, culture, and burnout. A Shift Toward Mental Health: Her journey from crew member to clinician and her “aha” moment in supporting crew well-being. Crew Isolation & Mental Load: How cruise and cargo environments differ—and what unites them in terms of seafarer mental health. The Double-Edged Sword of Connectivity: Why better internet access can help—and hurt—crew well-being without proper support strategies. Cultural Stigma and the Need for Change: Why “good enough” mental health care isn’t good enough, and the dangers of checking the box. Toxic Leadership and Its Ripple Effects: Pam highlights the impact of onboard leadership culture and the need for emotional temperature checks. Mental Health Meets Maritime Tech: From co-intelligence to platform overload—how digital transformation affects psychological resilience at sea. Learn More: Check out . Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: 💬 Like what you hear? Please rate the show 5 stars, follow, and share with your network. ☕ Support the show: 🌊 Proud media sponsor of /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/36796920

Episode 108: Wireless Safety and Real-Time Crew Monitoring with Sven Brooks of ScanReach 05/20/2025

Episode 108: Wireless Safety and Real-Time Crew Monitoring with Sven Brooks of ScanReach Episode 108: Wireless Safety and Real-Time Crew Monitoring with Sven Brooks of ScanReach Guest: , CEO of Episode Overview: Sven Brooks of ScanReach joins The Last Dinosaur to discuss how wireless mesh networks and wearables are transforming safety and connectivity at sea. From tracking crew locations in real time to enabling fast emergency response and even helping address harassment, this episode explores how digital innovation can empower seafarers, not burden them. Key Points: Purpose-Built Mesh Network: ScanReach has developed a wireless system made specifically for steel ship environments, solving a major connectivity challenge. Real-Time Crew Location: Wearables allow for instant crew mustering and emergency tracking AND boosting safety without infringing on privacy. Safety, Not Surveillance: GDPR compliant design and clear boundaries (like no cabin tracking) ensure transparency and trust. Unexpected Benefits: The system has helped in real-world incidents, including injuries and harassment, even though it wasn’t originally built for that. Gamified Fuel Awareness: Just like eco-driving, crew members who see fuel consumption in real time are naturally incentivized to improve. Industrial IoT at Sea: ScanReach uses off-the-shelf BLE sensors to enhance monitoring—from confined space entry to vibration and humidity data. ‘Halftime’ in Maritime Digitalization: Sven believes we’re in the second phase of maritime tech, one that’s more open, modular, and collaborative. Learn More: 🎧 🛳 Tune in Now: Available on , , and Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/36585880

Episode 107: Driving Innovation at Sea – A Conversation with Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping 05/13/2025

Episode 107: Driving Innovation at Sea – A Conversation with Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping Episode 107: Driving Innovation at Sea – A Conversation with Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping Guest: Director of Innovation, Episode Overview: In this episode, Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping shares how a legacy tanker company can still lead in digital innovation. From practical applications of onboard tech to fostering a culture of experimentation, Garry explains what it means to modernize responsibly in a highly regulated, performance-driven sector. Key Points: Innovation in the Tanker Sector: Garry discusses the challenges and opportunities of driving innovation in a traditional, asset-heavy environment like Ardmore. From Seafarer to Strategist: Garry’s career journey from working at sea to leading innovation, shapes how he bridges technology and real-world operations. Digitalizing with Purpose: Innovation isn’t about chasing trends. Garry emphasizes practical, scalable solutions that improve safety, efficiency, and compliance. Crew Engagement Matters: No tech rollout succeeds without the support of seafarers. Garry shares how Ardmore ensures buy-in from those onboard. Partnerships and Ecosystems: Collaboration with startups and tech partners helps Ardmore stay agile and informed on emerging trends. Looking Ahead: From alternative fuels to real-time data use, Garry paints a picture of how tankers are transforming. Lessons from the Frontline: Insights from testing tools like digital twins and crew safety wearables. Learn More: If this episode resonated with you, check out on the future of seafarers and sustainability, and E on innovation partnerships. Tune in Now: Available on , and more! Watch the episode on Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! 🌊 /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/36514090

Episode 106: The Evolving Role of Freight Trading in a Digital World 04/29/2025

Episode 105: Decarbonization Meets Digital - zero44’s Vision for Maritime Compliance 04/22/2025

Episode 105: Decarbonization Meets Digital - zero44’s Vision for Maritime Compliance Episode 105: Decarbonization Meets Digital - zero44’s Vision for Maritime Compliance Guest: , Co-founder & Managing Director, Episode Overview: In this episode, we sit down with Friederike Hesse, Co-founder and Managing Director of zero44, a Berlin-based startup helping the maritime industry navigate decarbonization through smart digital tools. From FuelEU Maritime to commercial strategy and pooling, Friederike breaks down how zero44 is giving operators a way to not only comply—but thrive. Key Points: The FuelEU Maritime Effect: How upcoming EU regulations are shaping behavior in chartering and operations. From Vision to Product: The founding of zero44 and why decarbonization isn’t just about emissions—it’s about economics. Pooling and Compliance: Why zero44 built tooling to handle pooling mechanics and its impact on chartering relationships. Making Decarbonization Commercial: Friederike explains how compliance tools can drive smarter commercial decisions. Challenges of Change: The biggest barriers to tech adoption in a fragmented, global industry. Berlin Meets Maritime: The unique energy of Germany’s startup scene and how it’s influencing maritime innovation. Partnerships that Matter: How relationships—with customers, class societies, and fellow startups—are key to creating traction. Learn More: → For another look at decarbonization, check out → For a big-picture look at how digitalization and decarbonization intersect, listen to Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano 🔗 Support Our Podcast: If you found value in this episode, rate us 5-stars and follow! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Interested in sponsorships? Let’s talk! 📢 Special Mention: The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor of /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/36215740

Episode 104: From Satellites to Shipping – Terminal Innovation with Paul Albert-Lebrun 04/08/2025

Episode 103: Sustainability, Resilience & the Future of Ports with Dr. Beatriz Canamary 03/25/2025

Episode 103: Sustainability, Resilience & the Future of Ports with Dr. Beatriz Canamary Episode 103: Sustainability, Resilience & the Future of Ports with Dr. Beatriz Canamary Guest: Founder & CEO of , Professor at Florida Polytechnic University Episode Overview: In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Beatriz Canamary, a leader at the intersection of sustainability and logistics. As the founder of SuRe Strategy and a professor at Florida Polytechnic University, Dr. Canamary brings a unique perspective on integrating sustainability into port operations, supply chains, and maritime infrastructure. We discuss her career journey, the evolving role of ports in decarbonization, and the challenges of navigating shifting policies while maintaining a sustainable and resilient maritime industry. Key Points: The Role of Ports in Maritime Decarbonization: Dr. Canamary explains why ports sit at the crossroads of the green transition, influencing fuel supply, shipbuilding, and operational strategies. Scope 3 Emissions & Why They Matter: Understanding how ports measure and report emissions beyond their direct operations—and how collaboration is key. Green Corridors & Industry Collaboration: Examining how initiatives like the LA-Shanghai green shipping corridor drive decarbonization and why data-sharing remains a challenge. ZEMBA – The Zero Emissions Maritime Buyers Alliance: An industry-led initiative where cargo owners and shipping companies partner to accelerate decarbonization. Navigating Policy Uncertainty in Maritime: Insights into how shifting regulations and trade policies impact long-term sustainability strategies. Attracting the Next Generation to Maritime Careers: Dr. Canamary shares her perspective on engaging Gen Z talent and her new initiative, Link Gen Z, a learning platform for sustainability and maritime education. Beyond ports: Dr Canamary is contributing to a book called ‘Sustainability in the Cruise Industry’ and working on her own book: "Maritime Ports of Tomorrow: Navigating Resilience and Sustainability in Global Supply Chains" Recommended Reads: Dr. Canamary shares her current reading list, including Maritime Decarbonization, The Port of the Future, and Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order by Ray Dalio. Learn More: Check out Episode 92: Port Miami’s Vision for the Future with Christopher Hudtwalcker. Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on 🎵 Music by: Peg and The Rejected King of SKA 🎨 Artwork By: GA Design 🎙️ Produced by: Chris Aversano 🔗 Support Our Podcast: If you found value in this episode, rate us 5-stars and follow! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Interested in sponsorships? Let’s talk! You can also buy me a coffee! 📢 Special Mention: The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor of /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/35819510

Episode 102: Optimizing Port State Control Inspections with Fabian Fussek 03/18/2025

Episode 102: Optimizing Port State Control Inspections with Fabian Fussek Guest: , Co-Founder & CEO of Episode Overview: In this episode of , I sit down with Fabian Fussek, the Co-Founder and CEO of Kaiko Systems. Fabian and his team are revolutionizing how crews and technical managers navigate the challenges of Port State Control (PSC) inspections. We break down what these inspections are, why they matter, and how Kaiko Systems' digital tools are streamlining compliance and operational efficiency. Fabian also shares his journey from the tech sector to maritime, the challenges of data standardization in shipping, and why integrating AI-driven solutions is key to improving safety and performance at sea. Key Points: The Importance of Port State Control Inspections PSC inspections ensure vessels meet international regulations and safety standards. "Think of it like a police inspection on the road—if you're not prepared, it can lead to costly delays and detentions." How Kaiko Systems is Simplifying Compliance Provides structured checklists and mobile-first tools for crews to prepare in advance. Allows technical managers to access real-time data on ship readiness. Bridging the Gap Between Ship and Shore "Seafarers are often left to manage inspections alone. Our tools align the incentives between ship and shore to ensure seamless compliance." Kaiko helps shipowners and technical managers track inspection readiness remotely. The Rise of AI in Maritime Compliance AI-driven insights help predict potential deficiencies before inspections occur. "We built Kai, an AI agent that simplifies reporting and risk assessments, reducing manual workload." Challenges in Data Standardization "90% of data generated on a ship never leaves it—this is a massive untapped resource." Kaiko Systems works to structure and standardize data for seamless integration with shipping companies' existing systems. Overcoming Resistance to Digitalization Seafarers are more tech-savvy than many expect: "They want tools that actually help them do their job better." Kaiko collaborates directly with frontline workers to ensure usability and effectiveness. Lessons for Maritime Entrepreneurs Fabian’s advice for founders: "Be open to luck, listen to your customers, and build strong industry relationships." The role of venture studios in fostering maritime tech startups. Learn More: 🔹 Related Episode: Check out episode 🔹 Kaiko Systems website: 🎧 Tune in Now: Available on , and 🎶 Music by: Peg and The Rejected King of SKA 🎨 Artwork By: GA Design 🎙 Produced by: Chris Aversano 💡 Support Our Podcast: Enjoyed this episode? Rate us 5-stars, subscribe to our newsletter, and share with your network. Your support helps us grow! 📢 Special Mention: The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor of Interested in sponsoring an episode? Let’s talk! ⛵ Until next time—fair winds and following seas! 🌊 /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/35702145

Episode 101: Enhancing Vessel Operations with AI-Driven Asset Management 03/04/2025

Episode 101: Enhancing Vessel Operations with AI-Driven Asset Management Episode 101: Enhancing Vessel Operations with AI-Driven Asset Management Guest: , Product Owner at Episode Overview: This episode of features Ilari Lemmetty, Product Owner at Elomatic, discussing the launch of the Aura Asset Performance Management system. This AI-powered platform enhances vessel operations by providing shipowners with clean, actionable data for predictive maintenance. Key Points: The Development of Aura "The development of Aura was a gradual process with multiple 'light bulb' moments rather than a single breakthrough." The shift from shipyard-driven maintenance to owner-controlled fleet optimization. AI in Predictive Maintenance "AI is not replacing human expertise but complementing it by detecting anomalies that may go unnoticed." AI optimizes maintenance schedules, reducing downtime and unexpected failures. Data Ownership and Collaboration "Historically, OEMs have controlled equipment data, but regulatory changes are shifting data ownership towards shipowners." Breaking down data silos enables more efficient fleet management. The Future of AI Regulation "Regulatory bodies are becoming more open to AI-driven predictive maintenance, provided it can be validated as effective." The emphasis is shifting from regulating AI development to its applications. Maritime as a Career Path "Maritime offers a dynamic international environment, providing opportunities to work with diverse cultures and cutting-edge technology." The industry’s digital transformation makes it an exciting time to get involved. Listen Now Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on Support the Podcast If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. and help keep these stories alive! Your support truly makes a difference! Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of , coming in September 2025. /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/35390970

Episode 100: The Maritime Podcasting Pioneer – Lena Gothberg 02/25/2025

Episode 100: The Maritime Podcasting Pioneer – Lena Gothberg Episode 100: The Maritime Podcasting Pioneer – Lena Gothberg Guest: , Host of Why It Matters: This is The Big One—the 100th episode of ! And who better to join than Lena Gothberg, a trailblazer in maritime podcasting? For nearly a decade, Lena has been the voice behind The Shipping Podcast, making it the longest-running podcast dedicated to the maritime industry. This episode is not just about podcasting; it’s about how storytelling and digital media are reshaping maritime communications. Key Points: The Evolution of Maritime Podcasting: How Lena started The Shipping Podcast when podcasting in maritime wasn’t even a concept. "Shipping is storytelling." – Lena Gothberg The challenges of convincing industry professionals to participate in an unfamiliar medium. Longevity in Podcasting: Why so many podcasts don’t last past 10 episodes. "If you last more than three months, you're okay." – Lena Gothberg Lena’s personal journey reaching nearly a decade of continuous podcasting. Women’s Voices in Maritime: Lena’s commitment to featuring women in the maritime industry. "It’s not about excluding men, it’s about ensuring women have a voice too." – Lena Gothberg How representation has evolved over time. Digitalization & Social Media’s Role in Maritime: The power of podcasts and social media in breaking maritime’s traditional communication barriers. "We need to bring the invisible industry into the digital universe." – Lena Gothberg Why storytelling is key in an industry often seen as invisible to the public. The Future of Podcasting in Shipping: Video vs. audio—does every podcast need a video component? "Why should I let people watch me while I work?" – Lena Gothberg The impact of industry changes on independent maritime content creators. Engaging the Next Generation: Why maritime needs to embrace modern media to attract talent. "Students need to hear from real people, not just read textbooks." – Lena Gothberg The role of podcasts in educating newcomers and shaping industry narratives. Lessons from 10 Years of Podcasting: Key takeaways for those looking to start their own podcast in maritime or beyond. "Do it your way. If people want to listen, they will." – Lena Gothberg The importance of persistence and adaptability. Listen Now: Available on , , and . Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a five-star review, and share! Support the Podcast: If you enjoy The Last Dinosaur Podcast, consider supporting through . Your support keeps these stories alive! Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/35348515

Episode 99: Navigating the Future of Maritime Training with Capt. Pradeep Chawla 02/18/2025

Episode 99: Navigating the Future of Maritime Training with Capt. Pradeep Chawla Episode 99: Navigating the Future of Maritime Training with Capt. Pradeep Chawla Guest: , Chairman of GlobalMET and Founder of Episode Overview: Capt. Chawla shares insights from his 50-year maritime career, transitioning from sea to leadership at , and now pioneering digital training at MarinePALS. We explore the evolution of maritime education, the role of technology, and the changing landscape of seafarer training. Key Points: The Shift to Digital Learning "Nobody likes reading anymore. Most learning now happens via YouTube, not textbooks." Microlearning, gamification, and VR are reshaping how seafarers acquire critical skills. Why VR and Gamification Matter First-time experiences, like entering a ship’s forpeak tank, can be simulated to build confidence. "A senior master once crashed a Cape-size bulk carrier in a simulator, but after seven attempts, he got it right—he never forgot that lesson." Adapting to Alternative Fuels LNG, ammonia, and methanol are the future—but require specialized training. MarinePALS developed VR training for LNG bunkering, helping crew adapt before stepping on board. Technology and Training Evolution "A second mate’s passage planning once took 12 hours—now it’s automated in two." Digitalization is reshaping navigation and ship operations, requiring new skill sets. The Power of Social Media in Shipping Shipping has traditionally operated in the shadows, but platforms like YouTube and Instagram can help highlight the industry’s importance. "In my previous company, we went from 20,000 to 100,000 followers by sharing crew-generated content—seafarers love seeing their own work showcased." The Seafarer Shortage and Industry Future Despite concerns, Capt. Chawla is optimistic: "The sea still attracts the brave." To appeal to the next generation, highlight responsibility: "By 22, you’ll be in charge of a $400M asset. Where else does that happen?" Advice for the Next Generation "Forget the idea that maritime is an outdated industry—it's evolving fast, and there’s no better time to join." Training needs to reflect modern learning habits: short, engaging, and interactive. Learn More: Related episode: MarinePALS website: Tune in Now: Available on , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor o, coming in September 2025. /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/35293870

Episode 98: Charting the Future of Liner Shipping with Roberto Giannetta 02/04/2025

Episode 98: Charting the Future of Liner Shipping with Roberto Giannetta Episode 98: Charting the Future of Liner Shipping with Roberto Giannetta Guest: Chairman, Episode Overview: In this episode, we sit down with Roberto Giannetta, a seasoned expert with over 35 years of experience in the liner shipping industry and the chairman of the Hong Kong Liner Shipping Association. Roberto shares insights into the pivotal role liner shipping plays in global trade, the challenges of decarbonization, and the opportunities brought by digitalization. He discusses how standardization and collaboration across the industry are key to addressing these challenges, alongside the progress being made in adopting green fuels and modern technologies. This episode was brought to you in association with the ! Key Points: Decarbonization in Liner Shipping: How the structured nature of liner shipping offers advantages in planning and adapting to decarbonization efforts. The challenges of green fuel adoption, including costs and global supply limitations. Roberto’s perspective on the future of propulsion systems, including modular nuclear reactors. The Role of Digitalization: The importance of standardizing systems and terminology across the industry to drive efficiency. Progress in digital bills of lading and other technologies aimed at reducing reliance on paper-based systems. Global Collaboration and Leadership: How organizations like the International Maritime Organization (IMO) are shaping the future of shipping regulations. The challenges of aligning stakeholders across jurisdictions to create unified standards. Asia’s Unique Role in Maritime Innovation: Insights into how automation is improving efficiency in Asia's terminals and its impact on job security. The role of China as a leader in green fuel production and its influence on global shipping. Roberto’s Career Journey: From IT to shipping, Roberto reflects on his fascinating path to becoming a key voice in the maritime industry. Learn More: For more on digital bills of lading, check out with Piotr Cichocki of Secro, where we explored the journey toward standardization and the impact of digitalization on global trade. Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Artwork By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London International Shipping Week coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/35008625

Episode 97: Maritime Leadership and Education in the 21st Century with Rear Admiral John Okon, President SUNY Maritime College 01/28/2025

Episode 97: Maritime Leadership and Education in the 21st Century with Rear Admiral John Okon, President SUNY Maritime College Episode 97: Maritime Leadership and Education in the 21st Century with Rear Admiral John Okon, President SUNY Maritime College Guest: President, Episode Overview: In this episode, Christopher Aversano speaks with Rear Admiral John Okon, the newest president of SUNY Maritime College. They discuss how maritime education has evolved to meet the demands of an increasingly digital and interconnected world. Admiral Okon shares insights into his leadership journey, the critical importance of cybersecurity in maritime education, and the innovative ways SUNY Maritime is preparing for the next generation of maritime leaders. Key Points: Leadership at SUNY Maritime: Admiral Okon's journey from student to president and his vision for leading the college into its next chapter. “My first day in uniform was at Maritime, and my last day in uniform was at Maritime. This institution shaped my career and my life.” Critical Thinking and Character-Based Leadership: Why these two pillars are essential for the future of maritime professionals. “We are trying to train and educate good human beings. Leadership starts with one fundamental aspect—being a good human being.” The Role of Cybersecurity: Addressing the growing importance of cybersecurity in maritime education and industry practices. “Cybersecurity lives in everything we have—engine controls, bridges, logistics systems. We need to bake it into our education and training.” Collaborating Across Maritime Academies: How state maritime academies and Kings Point work together to strengthen the industry. “When the rubber meets the road, we work together. A rising tide floats all boats.” Social Media as a Tool for Outreach: Enhancing SUNY Maritime's brand and attracting students through dynamic online engagement. “We’ve raised our social media presence significantly, and the feedback is clear—students are finding us through these platforms.” Attracting Talent to the Industry: Strategies to bring more students into maritime careers and showcase the value of a maritime education. “Come to Maritime, work hard for four years, and benefit for the next 40.” Celebrating 150 Years: Reflecting on the rich history and enduring legacy of SUNY Maritime College during its sesquicentennial. “This is a 150-year-old family with deep roots across the world. When you join, you’re part of something much bigger.” Learn More: Explore our with Captain Matthew Glass discussing the and the challenges that he faces as a pilot in one of the busiest waterways in the world. Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates, and consider sponsoring an episode. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of . Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/35004450

Episode 96: Steering the Future: How the Propeller Club is Transforming Maritime Associations with Maria Conatser 01/14/2025

Episode 96: Steering the Future: How the Propeller Club is Transforming Maritime Associations with Maria Conatser Episode 96 Guest: , President, Senior Financial Planning Analyst, Episode Overview: Maria Conatser joins to discuss the transformation needed for industry associations like the International Propeller Club to remain relevant in today’s digital age. She highlights the strategies to attract and retain members, leverage social media, and modernize offerings while reflecting on the organization’s rich history and ongoing contributions to the maritime industry. Key Points: The Propeller Club’s Legacy and Evolution: Founded in 1922, the International Propeller Club is a cornerstone of maritime networking. Maria shares its evolution from informal luncheons to a global network with over 80 ports worldwide. Adapting to the Digital Age: Associations must embrace technology to meet the expectations of younger members, including virtual events, interactive websites, and engaging social media campaigns. Transformative Leadership: Maria’s vision for revitalization includes expanding international chapters, strengthening government advocacy, and fostering collaboration with like-minded organizations. Impact of the Pandemic: COVID-19 accelerated the adoption of digital tools, enabling global connections through virtual meetings and webinars. This shift created opportunities to reach wider audiences. Engaging the Next Generation: To attract younger maritime professionals, the Propeller Club is diversifying its offerings, from social events to educational webinars, and addressing workforce development challenges. Workforce Development and Retention: Maria emphasizes the need for improving the industry's perception, providing connectivity and work-life balance for seafarers, and aligning with societal values to attract new talent. Strengthening International Relations: The Propeller Club’s intentional push for international growth includes new chapters in Bulgaria, Cyprus, Norway, and more, signaling its commitment to a global maritime strategy. Leveraging Social Media: A robust digital presence is key to staying relevant. Maria shares the Propeller Club’s ongoing efforts to modernize its website and social media strategies. The Future of Maritime Advocacy: Addressing “sea blindness,” Maria calls for greater public awareness about maritime’s essential role and its environmental advantages in global trade. Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration! Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/34824230

Episode 95: Navigating the Houston Ship Channel - Challenges and Innovation with Captain Matthew Glass 01/07/2025

Episode 95: Navigating the Houston Ship Channel - Challenges and Innovation with Captain Matthew Glass Episode 95: Navigating the Houston Ship Channel - Challenges and Innovation with Captain Matthew Glass Guest: Captain , Pilot and Second Officer on the Executive Committee Episode Overview: In this episode of Chris Aversano welcomes Captain Matthew Glass, a seasoned pilot on the Houston Ship Channel. They dive into the evolving landscape of one of the busiest ports in the world, exploring topics like infrastructure upgrades, digitalization, social media, and the challenges posed by decarbonization and engine power limitations. Key Points & Quotes: Captain Glass’s Journey: "My dream from a young age was to be a pilot. Growing up near Galveston Bay, it was all I wanted to do." (02:00) Insight into his maritime career, starting at Texas Maritime Academy and evolving into a leadership role as a Houston pilot. Houston Ship Channel Upgrades: "We’re completing Project 11, a billion-dollar effort to widen the channel to 750 feet. This allows two-way NeoPanamax traffic and boosts efficiency." (03:58) Challenges of Decarbonization: "With these newer engines, power limitations can impact maneuverability. As pilots, we need power for control—not just speed." (08:38) Embracing Digitalization: "We’re almost a technology company. From dispatch systems to pilot navigation units, everything is standardized and data-driven." (13:30) Discussion on innovations like their in-house Pilot Dispatching System (PLS) and collaborations with the U.S. Coast Guard. Social Media for Awareness: "What’s boring to us as pilots is fascinating to others. Social media helps us share our work and educate the public about the port’s importance." (22:13) Workforce Development: "When families learn about maritime opportunities, they’re fascinated. Social media and local partnerships help us attract the next generation." (30:38) Balancing Career and Family: "Most nights, I’m reading Goodnight Farm to my kids. It’s a reminder that there’s more to life than emails and ship stats." (34:26) Learn More: Explore related discussions on the intersection of digitalization and maritime operations in Tune in Now: Available on , and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of , coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/34719920

Episode 94: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2024 with Evan Efstathiou 12/23/2024

Episode 94: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2024 with Evan Efstathiou Episode 94: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2024 Guest: , Managing Director of and Chief Executive Officer of Editor's Note: Please note that there were some minor audio inconsistencies on the host's side during this episode. We appreciate your understanding and hope you enjoy the discussion! Episode Overview: In this annual tradition, Christopher Aversano is joined by Evangelos Efstathiou for the third year in a row to review the year in maritime digitalization and tech. They discuss the biggest trends of 2024, including the evolution of AI in the maritime industry, private equity’s increasing influence, and the critical intersection of decarbonization and digitalization. Evangelos also shares updates on SkySail’s exciting partnership with AMA Capital and Burmester & Vogel’s game-changing advancements in AI for demurrage management. Key Points: AI’s Transformational Role: AI’s integration in maritime operations has moved beyond hype, with practical applications driving revenue growth and operational efficiency. Burmester & Vogel’s AI solutions now account for 25% of its revenue, highlighting the technology’s real-world impact. Regulatory Push Toward Decarbonization: 2024 saw an increased focus on decarbonization initiatives such as FuelEU, with digital tools playing a pivotal role in tracking and optimizing emissions. Private Equity and Platform Consolidation: Evangelos highlights Kpler’s acquisition of Spire Maritime and MarineTraffic as an example of the ongoing trend of private equity-backed consolidation in maritime tech. SkySail’s Partnership with AMA Capital: The collaboration combines SkySail’s maritime tech expertise with AMA Capital’s proven investment banking capabilities, creating a new suite of services for maritime tech investments. The "Real AI" at Burmester & Vogel: After three years of development, Burmester & Vogel’s AI tools for demurrage management are redefining the workflow, automating processes, and significantly reducing human labor. Challenges in AI Adoption: While enthusiasm for AI is high, customers are navigating the noise created by vendors offering AI solutions without clear value. Evangelos draws parallels with the blockchain buzz five years ago. Consolidation in Maritime Efficiency Solutions: A bold prediction for 2025 suggests significant mergers between software and hardware players, offering holistic efficiency services from hull coatings to weather routing. Interest Rates and VC Funding: Rising interest rates have forced startups to focus on self-sustaining economics, challenging maritime tech ventures to prove product-market fit in a high-CAC environment. Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of , coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration! Learn More: Check out Episode 89: Seafarers, Decarbonization, and Diversity at Sea with Ralph Juhl, EVP, Technical at Hafnia Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/34569290

Episode 93: Navigating Ports and Innovation with Tommy Mikkelsen, Managing Director at Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure 12/03/2024

Episode 93: Navigating Ports and Innovation with Tommy Mikkelsen, Managing Director at Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure Episode 93: Navigating Ports and Innovation with Tommy Mikkelsen, Managing Director at Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure Guest: Tommy Mikkelsen, Managing Director, Navigation and Piloting Division, Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure Episode Overview: In this episode, Chris Aversano speaks with Tommy Mikkelsen about Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure’s innovative contributions to port navigation and operational efficiency. With over 100 years of expertise, Trelleborg is at the forefront of advancing safety, sustainability, and digitalization in critical marine and port operations. Tommy shares insights from his 30-year career, the challenges of change management, and how Trelleborg is driving decarbonization and efficiency in ports worldwide. Key Points: Trelleborg’s Niche in Marine Infrastructure: Focused on the "last mile" of maritime operations, including navigation and piloting, fender systems, and mooring solutions. Collaborations with the Panama Canal Authority: Implementing high-accuracy navigation systems to enhance efficiency and safety for ships transiting the canal. Adopting Technology for Port Operations: Leveraging predictive modeling and real-time data to optimize ship movements, reduce fuel consumption, and decrease dredging requirements. Change Management Challenges: Addressing resistance from pilots and crews to new technology by emphasizing training and intuitive design. Decarbonization Through Digitalization: Innovations such as real-time under-keel clearance monitoring and optimized tug usage to reduce emissions and improve cargo handling. Advancing Maritime Digitalization: Enhancing data-sharing capabilities to overcome proprietary barriers and ensure a holistic approach to monitoring and optimization. Encouraging Careers in Maritime: The maritime industry offers hands-on innovation opportunities for engineers and developers, making a tangible impact in a rapidly evolving field. Personal Insight: Tommy shares his love for sci-fi literature, recommending The Expanse series by James S.A. Corey for a dose of inspiration. Learn More: Check out Episode 72 with David Yeo, CEO of Innovez One talks about port digitization. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: Enjoyed this episode? Rate us 5 stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/34216010

Episode 92: Port Miami’s Vision for the Future with Christopher Hudtwalcker 11/19/2024

Episode 92: Port Miami’s Vision for the Future with Christopher Hudtwalcker Episode 92: Port Miami’s Vision for the Future with Christopher Hudtwalcker Guest: Senior Strategy & Innovation Officer, Episode Overview: In this episode of The Last Dinosaur, Christopher Aversano welcomes Christopher Hudtwalcker, the Senior Strategy & Innovation Officer of Port Miami. Hudtwalcker shares the port's transformative journey, detailing their dual focus on cruise and cargo sectors and plans for expanding as a key cargo hub for Latin America. With a strong emphasis on innovation, Port Miami is pioneering new initiatives like the creation of a dedicated innovation office and ambitious cargo visibility projects to optimize operations, decarbonization efforts, and community engagement. Key Points: Port Miami's Economic Impact: Port Miami generates $61.4 billion in economic activity, supports over 340,000 jobs, and plays a crucial role in Florida’s economy. Hudtwalcker discusses the port's commitment to local economic growth and community impact. Expanding Cargo Operations: While historically known as the “cruise capital of the world©,” Port Miami is doubling down on its cargo facilities. With new densification projects, the port aims to strengthen its position as the primary cargo gateway to Latin America. The Innovation Office: Port Miami is leading the way by establishing a dedicated innovation office, one of the first of its kind in the U.S. This office will centralize digital transformation efforts, streamline cargo tracking, and enhance port operations through emerging technologies. Cargo Visibility and Pilot Projects: Hudtwalcker shares details about current pilot projects using AI and computer vision to track cargo movements and manage port efficiency, helping Miami compete in a data-centric future. Decarbonization and Sustainability Efforts: Given its unique location, Port Miami prioritizes sustainability by reducing emissions, investing in shore power for cruise ships, and managing truck idling times, all with an eye on improving air quality for the community. Building a Port Community System: With inspiration from other global ports, Miami aims to create a “one-stop-shop” online platform for stakeholders to access real-time port data, from truck schedules to weather updates, fostering a more connected ecosystem. Engaging the Next Generation: Reflecting on his own journey from politics to the maritime sector, Hudtwalcker shares insights on the appeal of maritime careers and the variety of opportunities in this dynamic field. Learn More: For those who enjoyed learning about port modernization, check out Episode 77 with Bethann Rooney, Director of , where we discuss the strategic transformations happening in one of the busiest ports on the East Coast. Like Port Miami, Port New York & New Jersey operates as a landlord port, collaborating with cargo handlers and focusing on sustainable growth. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Special Announcements: The Captain’s Table Partnership: This episode is part of The Last Dinosaur’s collaboration with the , supporting the Captain's Table Challenge to spotlight groundbreaking innovations and startups in maritime. Media Partnership with LISW25: The Last Dinosaur is also proud to be a media partner for the in September 2025. Stay tuned for exclusive coverage and insights from one of the industry’s most significant global events. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Artwork By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you enjoyed this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for updates, and consider supporting our work through sponsorship opportunities. /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/33970987

Episode 91: Navigating Global Marine Lubricants and Decarbonization with David Price, CEO of Gulf Marine 11/12/2024

Episode 91: Navigating Global Marine Lubricants and Decarbonization with David Price, CEO of Gulf Marine Episode 91: Navigating Global Marine Lubricants and Decarbonization with David Price, CEO of Gulf Marine In this episode of The Last Dinosaur, brought to you in partnership with the , C sits down with , CEO of , a company renowned for providing OEM-approved marine lubricants and technical services across 1,000+ ports worldwide. Gulf Marine, a subsidiary of Gulf Oil International within the Hinduja Group, is deeply committed to quality and customer service, ensuring reliable support wherever it’s needed. David shares Gulf Marine’s journey, his personal transition from customer to CEO, and how the company is actively supporting the maritime industry’s path toward decarbonization. Key Takeaways From Customer to CEO: David shares his unique journey, transitioning from being a Gulf Marine customer to leading the company. His experience brings a customer-first perspective that has shaped Gulf Marine's focus on reliability and responsiveness. Customer-Centric Service in Action: Gulf Marine is dedicated to ensuring dependable service, even in the most challenging locations, by closely listening to client needs and providing quick, tailored support. Decarbonization Through Innovation: Lubricants are critical in the maritime decarbonization journey, especially with regulations like IMO 2020. David explains Gulf Marine’s advancements in developing lubricants compatible with alternative fuels like methanol and ammonia. Sustainability at Every Level: Gulf Marine’s Singapore facility operates on solar power, showcasing the company’s commitment to environmental responsibility in its production process. Digital Optimization: Gulf Marine, a proprietary tracking software, to monitor global trade patterns and optimize deliveries, ensuring products reach clients exactly when and where they need them. Adapting to Supply Chain Shifts: Global supply chain challenges, from geopolitical events to natural disasters, require flexibility and innovation. David discusses how Gulf Marine navigates these obstacles to maintain smooth operations. Why Join the Maritime Industry: David’s passion for shipping is evident as he shares why he believes the industry offers exciting, ever-evolving career opportunities. Special Announcements The Captain’s Table Partnership: This episode is part of The Last Dinosaur’s collaboration with the Captain’s Table, supporting the Captain's Table Challenge to spotlight groundbreaking innovations and startups in maritime. Media Partnership with : The Last Dinosaur is also proud to be a media partner for the London International Shipping Week (LISW25) in September 2025. Stay tuned for exclusive coverage and insights from one of the industry’s most significant global events. Don’t Miss Out: Check out for more insights on innovation in maritime sustainability. Listen Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support the Show: Found value in today’s episode? Please rate us 5-stars, follow, and subscribe to our newsletter for the latest updates. Your support means everything! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/33866357

Episode 90: Driving Trade Forward – Digital Standards in Maritime with Pamela Mar, ICC 11/05/2024

Episode 90: Driving Trade Forward – Digital Standards in Maritime with Pamela Mar, ICC Episode 90: Driving Trade Forward – Digital Standards in Maritime with Pamela Mar, ICC Guest: , Managing Director of the Digital Standards Initiative, Episode Overview: In this episode, I speak with Pamela Mar, Managing Director of the Digital Standards Initiative at the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC), the world’s largest business organization representing 45 million businesses across 170 countries. We dive into ICC’s mission to streamline global trade, focusing on maritime’s critical role and how digital standards can transform the landscape for greater efficiency, transparency, and inclusivity. This is another episode brought to you in partnership with Quote: "If you have any interest in enabling things to be cheaper, faster, and more accessible to everyone, you will want to see faster digitalization of global trade." — Pamela Mar Key Points: ICC's Role in Trade and Maritime: Pamela outlines ICC’s foundational work advocating businesses at all levels and its role in fostering stability and growth through global trade. The Digital Standards Initiative (DSI): Launched by ICC, DSI works to modernize trade by digitalizing processes, aiming to align standards for documents like bills of lading (BLs), making trade faster and more transparent. Why Digitalization Matters for Trade Efficiency: Pamela highlights that digital trade documents reduce costs, enhance security, and provide vital data for better decision-making, supporting transparency and efficiency across supply chains. Digital Trust in Trade: Emphasizing the importance of trust, Pamela explains how digital standards need harmonized frameworks for data security, traceability, and interoperability to gain widespread adoption. Collaboration with Governments and Organizations: ICC collaborates with global entities to drive legal frameworks allowing electronic records, with countries like the UK and France leading by example. Adoption Barriers and Strategies: Pamela discusses challenges in digital adoption, especially across complex supply chains. The DSI focuses on high-impact documents like EBLs, which streamline trade finance and simplify logistics. Benefits for the Future of Trade: Moving to digital standards benefits all – from reducing costs to supporting decarbonization efforts. ICC’s work paves the way for a more connected, transparent global marketplace. Learn More: Check out our previous episode with Ralph Juhl to explore more on maritime digitalization and its challenges. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch this episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected, "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you enjoyed this episode, please rate us 5-stars, follow, and share! For exclusive content, subscribe to our newsletter. Announcement: The Last Dinosaur is also a proud media partner with the 2025 (#LISW25). /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/33751527

Episode 89: Seafarers, Decarbonization, and Diversity at Sea with Ralph Juhl, EVP, Technical at Hafnia 10/29/2024

Episode 89: Seafarers, Decarbonization, and Diversity at Sea with Ralph Juhl, EVP, Technical at Hafnia Episode 89: Seafarers, Decarbonization, and Diversity at Sea with Ralph Juhl, EVP, Technical at Hafnia Guest: , Executive Vice President, Technical, Episode Overview: In this episode, Christopher Aversano speaks with Ralph Juhl, EVP of Technical Operations at Hafnia, the largest operator of product and chemical tankers. They dive deep into the challenges and innovations facing the shipping industry, particularly the role of seafarers in decarbonization efforts, the evolving role of technology and digitalization on ships, and Hafnia's groundbreaking efforts to diversify crews with initiatives such as their Culture Lab. Ralph also sheds light on seafarers' well-being and the importance of education in adapting to new fuels, regulations, and equipment, along with Hafnia’s unique approach to crew management and diversity. This is the second episode in a series that we are doing along with our partners at Key Points: Seafarers’ Evolving Role in Decarbonization: Ralph explains how seafarers are on the front lines of decarbonization, from operating complex digital systems to adopting new technologies that reduce emissions and improve energy efficiency. Hafnia’s approach to educating crews is critical to adapting to new challenges. Navigating Modern-day Shipping Risks: With global tensions, particularly in the Red Sea and Ukraine, Ralph shares how Hafnia strategically ensures safe passage for its fleet, while balancing the evolving regulatory landscape. Technical Operations and Crew Management: Ralph talks about overseeing Hafnia’s 120+ vessels and managing a workforce of 4,500 seafarers. He discusses the day-to-day operations that ensure ships meet international standards and keep the oil majors satisfied. Culture Lab and Promoting Diversity: Hafnia's innovative Culture Lab program focuses on increasing diversity at sea, with an emphasis on gender equality. Ralph shares how having 50% female crew on some vessels has transformed the on-board culture, making it more collaborative and professional. Digitalization and Future Fuels: Ralph and Chris discuss the complexities of implementing future fuels like LNG and ammonia, as well as how digitalization can support smoother operations and potentially lead to autonomous vessels in the future. Connectivity and Seafarers’ Well-being: Hafnia prioritizes connectivity for crews, allowing seafarers to stay in touch with their families and access real-time data to make better decisions at sea. Ralph highlights the need for balance, ensuring seafarers remain focused while staying connected. "We trust seafarers with billions of dollars of ships and cargo, so why shouldn’t we trust them with a phone? Connectivity at sea isn’t a privilege; it’s a necessity." – Ralph discussing the importance of connectivity for seafarer well-being and operational efficiency. The Future of Autonomous Ships: Ralph offers a thought-provoking perspective on what autonomy in shipping might look like—not as crewless ships but as a shift to fewer office-based roles, enabling more decision-making on board. Learn More: Check out Episode 85 with Cristina Aleixendri Muñoz, discussing wind-assisted propulsion and innovation in shipping. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support means the world to us! #LISW25 /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/33631197

Episode 88: Modernizing Great Lakes Shipping: Navigating Automation and Digitalization with Mark Barker 10/15/2024

Episode 88: Modernizing Great Lakes Shipping: Navigating Automation and Digitalization with Mark Barker Episode Title: Modernizing Great Lakes Shipping: Navigating Automation and Digitalization with Mark Barker Guest: , President, Episode Overview: In this episode, host Christopher Aversano speaks with Mark Barker, President of Interlake Maritime Services. They explore the technological evolution of Great Lakes shipping, focusing on the integration of automation, digitization, and connectivity with Starlink. Mark shares insights into how Interlake is modernizing its fleet, preserving crew welfare, and leveraging social media to build its brand in an industry often overlooked by the public. Key Points: The Evolution of Great Lakes Shipping: Mark discusses Interlake's transformation from a steamship company to a modern fleet equipped with diesel plants and automated systems. He highlights the challenges and rewards of updating older ships for today's technological demands. Digitization and Automation on Board: Over the past 15+ years, Interlake has focused on digitalization through automation. Mark explains how the company has transitioned from full watch-standing to unmanned engine rooms, which improves efficiency while maintaining safety and operational control. Crew Connectivity with Starlink: Interlake is one of the first companies to adopt Starlink’s maritime service, allowing crews to stay connected with their families. This technology has enhanced both crew welfare and ship operations by providing real-time data and communication capabilities. Sustainability in Shipping: The company's efforts go beyond digitization. Mark highlights how Interlake's bulk carriers play a key role in supporting the US blast furnace steelmaking industry, transporting materials like iron ore and coal more efficiently than rail or road. As Mark says, "We’re moving the building blocks of America across the Great Lakes—iron ore, road salt, stone, and coal—making sure the foundation of the US economy stays strong." Challenges of IT and Digital Systems in Maritime: Christopher and Mark discuss the often-underestimated complexities of implementing IT solutions on ships. They emphasize the importance of preparation, ongoing training, and careful resource allocation to ensure successful modernization efforts. Embracing Social Media for Branding and Recruitment: Mark touches on how Interlake uses platforms like YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram to showcase life on the Great Lakes and attract the next generation of maritime professionals. Career Opportunities in the Great Lakes Shipping Industry: Mark highlights the upward mobility within Great Lakes shipping, where individuals can start as deckhands and rise to captain. With the industry's increasing digitalization and improved working conditions, it's an attractive option for those seeking a fulfilling career. “Our ships may be on the Great Lakes, but the impact we have is national. We're keeping the heart of the US economy moving—quietly, but powerfully," Mark adds. Learn More: If you enjoyed this episode, check out our earlier discussion with fellow ship owner Managing Director at Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube! Watch the full episode on YouTube for an in-depth look at the latest developments in Great Lakes shipping. Music by: Peg and The Rejected – King of SKA Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: Found value in this episode? Please rate us 5-stars, follow, and share! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Su /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/33451752

Episode 87: Navigating the Future: Seafarers' Welfare and Maritime Challenges 10/08/2024

Episode 87: Navigating the Future: Seafarers' Welfare and Maritime Challenges Episode 87: Navigating the Future: Seafarers' Welfare and Maritime Challenges Guest Panelists: , Executive Director, , , NAMMA , Executive Director, Episode Overview: Recorded live at the , this special World Maritime Day episode of The Last Dinosaur brings together key experts to discuss the future of seafarers' welfare and the challenges facing the maritime industry. Our panelists dive into this year’s theme, Serving Seafarers: First Things First, exploring critical topics such as sea blindness, the growing influence of digital connectivity, and the role of new technologies in shaping maritime operations. This engaging discussion highlights the importance of putting seafarers' welfare at the heart of the industry as it continues to evolve. Key Points: Sea Blindness: The panel explores how the public remains largely unaware of the maritime industry’s contributions and the critical work of seafarers, despite its global impact. Connectivity's Impact: With more seafarers gaining access to onboard internet and communication tools, we explore how this can both improve and complicate life at sea, especially in terms of maintaining social cohesion on board. Emerging Technologies & Fuels: The shift toward new technologies like AI and alternative fuels (such as ammonia and LNG) is reshaping maritime safety and training. The panel addresses the potential benefits and challenges these developments bring for seafarers. The Human Element: While technology is rapidly changing the industry, the panel emphasizes the importance of maintaining human connections on board. As Simon Grainge notes, “Technology should be a servant, not a master. We must remind seafarers that they are not just small cogs in a vast machine.” Looking Ahead: Safety First: As decarbonization and automation continue to transform maritime logistics, our panelists call for greater involvement of seafarers in decision-making processes to ensure that their welfare and safety remain top priorities. Michelle DePooter emphasizes, “Connectivity is crucial, but so is maintaining the social bonds on board. We can’t lose the human connection.” Links & Resources: Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/33330702

Episode 86: Navigating the Future of Trade Logistics with Jan Hoffmann of UNCTAD 10/01/2024

Episode 86: Navigating the Future of Trade Logistics with Jan Hoffmann of UNCTAD Episode 86: Navigating the Future of Trade Logistics with Guest: Jan Hoffmann, Head, Trade Logistics at the Episode Overview: In this episode, we sit down with Jan Hoffmann, Head of Trade Logistics at UNCTAD, to discuss the critical role that digitalization and sustainable development play in shaping global trade. We explore how the demand for digital data, particularly in maritime logistics, has skyrocketed since COVID-19 and the increasing reliance on tools like AIS tracking and AI. Jan shares his insights into decarbonization, energy transition, and the evolving landscape of logistics, touching on the unique challenges faced by countries like the Marshall Islands. We also dive into the stages of digital transformation and their impact on global trade efficiency and volatility. Key Points: The Role of UNCTAD: Jan explains how UNCTAD supports the development-friendly integration of developing countries into the global economy, ensuring sustainable development through their research and policies. Decarbonization Efforts: We delve into how UNCTAD assists countries like the Marshall Islands in navigating the financial and environmental challenges of decarbonization, especially in negotiations at the IMO. Digital Data Demand: The exponential rise in the demand and supply of data, driven by COVID-19 and the advancement of AIS tracking and AI tools, has transformed the logistics landscape. Three Stages of Digitalization: Optimization: Maximizing efficiency in current processes, such as port arrivals. Extension: Expanding value beyond efficiency, linking to the energy transition. Transformation: Reinventing logistics, trade, and business models with data-driven innovations. Containerization & Managing Transitions: We discuss the ripple effects of digitalization in logistics, particularly how it shifts workloads from ports to manufacturing, emphasizing the need for careful transition management. Technological Change & Its Impact: Jan shares a powerful statement: "Technological change will never be as slow as today," and explains how advances in computing and data modeling are enabling positive transformations in logistics. The Human Element in Logistics: We wrap up by discussing the happiness of people working in logistics, and how their roles are becoming more aligned through technology and collaboration. Learn More: Check out Episode 53 and our chat with Kyle Henderson of Vizion for another insightful discussion on the impact of digitalization in maritime trade. Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/33249272

Episode 85 Wind-Assisted Propulsion with Cristina Aleixendri Muñoz 09/24/2024

Episode 85 Wind-Assisted Propulsion with Cristina Aleixendri Muñoz Episode 85: Wind-Assisted Propulsion and Innovation in Maritime with Guest: Cristina Aleixendri Muñoz, COO & Co-founder at Episode Overview: In this episode, Chris Aversano talks with Cristina Aleixendri Muñoz about bound4blue’s cutting-edge wind-assisted propulsion systems. They explore how these systems reduce fuel costs and emissions, the challenges of innovating in shipping, and the growing role of regulation in driving adoption. Cristina shares insights on the transition from aeronautics to maritime, the importance of crew engagement, and the challenges of scaling hardware solutions in a software-driven world. Key Points: Wind-Assisted Propulsion Systems: Bound4blue's systems help shipowners improve operational efficiency by leveraging wind to reduce fuel consumption and emissions. Innovation in Shipping: Bringing new technology to the maritime industry is difficult, but as regulations evolve, risks are being reduced, leading to greater adoption. Regulatory Drivers: Cristina explains how regulations like FuelEU are encouraging shipowners to embrace wind-assisted propulsion to meet fuel efficiency targets. Challenges in Hardware Adoption: Innovating in hardware, as opposed to software, faces unique obstacles, from funding to shipyard vendor listings. Crew Engagement: The success of wind-assisted systems relies on crew understanding and involvement, which Cristina emphasizes as key to operational success. Class Societies’ Role: Collaborations with class societies, such as Lloyd’s Register and DNV, have been crucial in validating the technology and easing industry adoption. Growth and Future Trends: With four systems operational and six in the pipeline, bound4blue is poised to scale, and Cristina discusses their future plans to expand globally. Learn More: For related episodes, check out [related episode or guest link]. Tune in Now: Available on , and . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: Rate us 5-stars, follow, and subscribe to our newsletter! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/33146282

Episode 84: The Captains Table Presents - Innovation and Collaboration in the Maritime Industry with Vishal Khattri 09/17/2024

Episode 83: Enhancing Maritime Safety Through Digital Innovation with Esa Henttinen of NAPA 09/10/2024

Episode 83: Enhancing Maritime Safety Through Digital Innovation with Esa Henttinen of NAPA Episode 83: Enhancing Maritime Safety Through Digital Innovation with Esa Henttinen of NAPA Guest: , Executive Vice President of Safety Solutions, Episode Overview: In this episode of The Last Dinosaur: Maritime Shipping in the Digital Age, I have a captivating discussion with Esa Henttinen, Executive Vice President of Safety Solutions at NAPA . NAPA is renowned for its cutting-edge software solutions that span the entire lifecycle of a ship, from design to operations, with a focus on enhancing safety, sustainability, and future-proofing the maritime industry. Our conversation zeroes in on the cruise ship industry, a sector we've only touched on briefly in past episodes, making this a particularly exciting exploration. Esa provides deep insights into how NAPA is harnessing data science to revolutionize safety management and operational efficiency in the cruise ship sector. We delve into the importance of involving seafarers in the development of new tools, the transformative power of connectivity in ship operations, and the role of digitalization in advancing Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) standards within the maritime industry. Key Points: NAPA’s Focus on Seafarers: Esa emphasizes the importance of involving seafarers in the development of digital tools, as top-down solutions often fail without their input and feedback. Connectivity as a Game Changer: The discussion highlights how enhanced connectivity between ship and shore is fostering a new level of collaboration, leading to shared responsibility and improved support for seafarers. Real-Time Visibility in Cruise Operations: NAPA’s digital solutions provide real-time visibility for complex cruise ship operations, aiding in critical areas like stability management and regulatory compliance. The Untapped Potential of Ship Data: Although 90% of ship data remains onboard, there is immense potential in harnessing this data to drive operational improvements, especially through centralized electronic logbook systems. Digitalization in Maritime Operations: Digitalization is enabling comprehensive data measurement in areas like food waste on cruise ships, pushing for improved processes and ESG compliance. Challenges in Permit to Work Processes: The episode explores the need for digitalization in managing permit-to-work processes, which are currently prone to delays and errors, particularly in hazardous work environments. Post-COVID Safety Concerns: Esa shares insights on how the post-pandemic has seen the arrival, on cruise ships, of a fresh generation of seafarers, whose need for better training and guidance will only increase with the introduction of new fuels. Agile Approach to Safety Management: NAPA’s work with clients emphasizes an agile approach to safety management, ensuring that digital tools are effectively integrated into daily operations to enhance seafarer safety and well-being. Closing Remarks: If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, follow, share, and review the podcast. Your support helps us continue to bring insightful conversations like this one to you. Thank you for listening! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/32953342

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Episode 81. Unlocking the Future of Maritime Trade: Digital Bills of Lading with Piotr Cichocki of Secro Inc.. 08/27/2024

Episode 81. Unlocking the Future of Maritime Trade: Digital Bills of Lading with Piotr Cichocki of Secro Inc.. Title: Episode 81 Unlocking the Future of Maritime Trade: Digital Bills of Lading with of Guest: Piotr Cichocki, Managing Director – Europe, Secro Inc. Episode Overview: In this episode of The Last Dinosaur: Maritime Shipping in the Digital Age, I sit down with Piotr Cichocki, Managing Director – Europe for Secro Inc., a company at the forefront of revolutionizing global trade through digital innovation. Piotr brings over 30 years of experience in the maritime industry, including significant contributions to the BIMCO documentary committee. Our conversation dives deep into the world of electronic bills of lading (eBLs) and how Secro is leading the charge in transforming this critical aspect of maritime trade. Piotr shares his journey and insights into the challenges and opportunities presented by digitalizing the BL process. We discuss the implications of tokenization, changes in the law allowing for the recognition of digital securities, and the future of maritime trade in a more interconnected and technologically advanced world. Key Points: Piotr Cichocki’s Background: Over 30 years in the maritime industry with key roles in ship ownership and management, and significant contributions to BIMCO's documentary committee. Secro’s Vision: Secro aims to enable frictionless global trade through their next-generation electronic bill of lading platform, enhancing real-time and secure collaboration in cross-border commodity trade. The Evolution of BLs: Piotr discusses his realization that BLs, while functional, have room for improvement, particularly in reducing fraud and increasing efficiency. The Role of Tokenization: How tokenization and changes in law are paving the way for BLs to be recognized as digital securities, offering new opportunities for collateralization and reduced costs in maritime trade. Blockchain Technology in Maritime: Exploring the shift of blockchain from cryptocurrency to creating digital ledgers and tokens for secure, efficient maritime documentation. Global Legal Changes: Discussion of the 2016 UN law and its implications for digital transactions, with early adoption seen in Singapore and the UK, and how this could transform international trade. The Future of Maritime Trade: The potential for electronic BLs to make maritime trade more attractive and secure, with a focus on reducing costs and increasing transparency. Closing Remarks: If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, follow, share, and review the podcast. Your support helps us continue to bring insightful conversations like this one to you. Thank you for listening! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/32725352

The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

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