The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Join Christopher Aversano, a seasoned maritime industry expert, as he delves into the fascinating world of digitization in shipping on this interview-style podcast. Gain insights from leading professionals and innovators on the latest trends, technologies, and best practices shaping the maritime industry. Whether you're a seasoned seafarer, a tech enthusiast, or just curious about the future of shipping, this podcast is the perfect place to explore the cutting-edge of digital transformation in one of the world's oldest and most essential industries.
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Episode 125: Leveling the Playing Field in Global Trade with Carmit Glik of Ship4wd
12/02/2025
Episode 125: Leveling the Playing Field in Global Trade with Carmit Glik of Ship4wd
Episode 125: Leveling the Playing Field in Global Trade with Carmit Glik of Ship4wd Guest: CEO, Episode Overview: Global trade isn’t just mega-shippers and Fortune 500s. It’s thousands of small and mid-sized businesses trying to move a single container without getting crushed by complexity. In this episode, Carmit Glik, CEO of Ship4wd, explains how her team is building a digital-first freight solution that combines technology and human support to give underdogs a fair shot in international logistics. Key Points: Why SMBs Are the Real Backbone of Trade How small and mid-sized businesses make up the majority of economic activity—and why they’re often ignored by traditional logistics providers. Trust After Turbulence What COVID, the Red Sea disruptions, and shifting tariffs have done to SMB confidence—and why “too good to be true” is the default reaction to new services. Digital-First, Human-Backed How Ship4wd blends self-service booking, tariff calculators, and shipment tracking with real people on call when things go sideways. Knowledge as an Antidote to Chaos Why transparency on duties, tariffs, and total landed costs is now non-negotiable for business owners making tight-margin decisions. From VC to Founder: Lessons for Maritime/Logistics Startups Carmit’s path from maritime VC to operator, what’s changed in the startup ecosystem since 2018, and her advice for founders who want to solve real problems in freight. Sponsored by Accelleron This episode is brought to you by and the LOREKA360° Emissions Desk—one partner, one process, and complete confidence in your compliance. Learn more at accelleron.com/emissions-desk. If you’d like to discuss sponsoring The Last Dinosaur, please get in touch with Tune in Now: Listen to Episode 125 on or your favorite podcast platform.
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Episode 124: Connecting Ships with Local Experts: Manos Koukouvios, COO, Vsltec
11/25/2025
Episode 124: Connecting Ships with Local Experts: Manos Koukouvios, COO, Vsltec
Connecting Ships with Local Experts Guest: s, COO, Episode Overview: Former seafarer and now COO of Vsltec, Manos Koukouvios shares how a real off-hire HVAC failure in West Africa sparked the idea for a vetted, location-based network of technical service providers. We talk about building a two-sided marketplace in shipping, managing expectations in a “WhatsApp world,” and what founders should really focus on when starting in maritime tech. ⭐ Sponsor: Accelleron – LOREKA360° Emissions Desk You Should Be Operating Ships, Not Filing Paperwork Accelleron’s LOREKA360° Emissions Desk is a complete compliance service that handles data checks, documentation, forecasting, and verification – powered by intelligent software and experts who’ve actually worked at sea. 👉 Learn more at Want to advertise with the podcast? Contact my friends at Key Points From sea to startup: Manos’ journey from LNG and cruise ships to Flagship Founders and into VesselTech. The HVAC case that sparked Vsltec: How one bad technical job turned into months of off-hire and a clear problem to solve. Vetted, local networks: Why Vsltec insists on truly local service providers and how that de-clutters the “we do everything, everywhere” noise. Change management & expectations: Selling into overloaded technical/purchasing teams whose expectations are shaped by free, consumer-grade apps. Advice for founders: Obsess over the problem first, talk to people, and only build when you know it’s real, big, and worth paying for. Learn More: For another deep-dive on maritime innovation, check out Tune in Now: Available on and Support the Podcast: Please rate 5 stars, follow, share, or support via Stay curious, stay salty. 🦕🌊
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Episode 123: Digital Pay at Sea: Crew Wages, Compliance, and Cashless Ships with Stuart Ostrow of ShipMoney
11/18/2025
Episode 123: Digital Pay at Sea: Crew Wages, Compliance, and Cashless Ships with Stuart Ostrow of ShipMoney
Episode Overview: Crews are still getting paid with cash, FedExed checks, and manual wires. is trying to end that. In this episode, explains how digital payroll and controlled payout options are changing how seafarers get paid, how owners manage cash, and how operators stay compliant in a sanctions-heavy world. This episode of The Last Dinosaur is produced in proud partnership with , a global pitch platform spotlighting the people building the future of maritime. Sponsor: Staying compliant in shipping is only getting harder. CII, EU ETS, FuelEU… it’s nonstop. Orbit Reporter automates regulatory reporting, improves data accuracy, and helps owners get ahead instead of scrambling. Named one of the 150 Most Innovative Companies in Maritime four years in a row. Want compliance to be an advantage, not a tax on ops? Learn more at . Interested in sponsoring The Last Dinosaur? Reach out to Key Points: Paying crew is still painfully manual — cash on board, wires, even paper checks. Digital pay gives seafarers control: they can send money home how they want (bank, wallet, cash pickup). Removing cash from vessels also helps owners with compliance, auditability, and fraud risk. Cyber and compliance are daily battles: sanctions, KYC, OTP security, penetration testing. This isn’t just payroll anymore — companies are using these tools for ship stores, superintendent expenses, and vendor payments. Tune In: Listen on , and watch on Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support the Show: Follow, rate us 5-stars, and share with someone in crewing, compliance, or vessel management.
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Episode 122: Why Maritime Needs a Data Utility, Not Another App – Ari Marjamaa, Raa Labs
10/28/2025
Episode 122: Why Maritime Needs a Data Utility, Not Another App – Ari Marjamaa, Raa Labs
Episode 122: Why Maritime Needs a Data Utility, Not Another App – , Episode Overview: Raa Labs helps maritime businesses collect, organize, and share high-quality operational vessel data—onboard and onshore—so owners and operators can run analytics anywhere. Ari explains why Raa Labs acts like a “data utility layer”. This turns messy inputs into trusted signals, and what it takes to drive adoption from bridge to boardroom. Sponsor: keeps fleets connected with a hybrid OneWeb + Starlink solution managed by one trusted partner. Learn more at . Want to advertise with the podcast? Contact our friends at Key Points: Data Utility Model: Deliver clean, contextualized data that any analytics tool can use—plumbing first, dashboards later. Horizontal, Not Vertical: Standardize and route data independent of OEM/app silos. Standardization by Software: A contextualization engine converts mixed units/labels into consistent outputs. Crew Workload: Use sensor data to auto-populate reports; crews validate instead of retyping. Adoption = Org Change: Exec buy-in, clear use cases, new team structures, and internal champions drive scale. Decarb & ROI: Voyage optimization + precise reporting support EU ETS/compliance while cutting fuel. Learn More: Tune in Now: , Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” • Art: GA Design • Produced by: Support Our Podcast: Please rate 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for updates. Stay curious, stay salty. Chris
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Episode 121: From Excel to Foresight: Ingrid Kylstad on Building Resilient, Low-Carbon Supply Chains
10/21/2025
Episode 121: From Excel to Foresight: Ingrid Kylstad on Building Resilient, Low-Carbon Supply Chains
From Excel to Foresight: Ingrid Kylstad on Building Resilient, Low-Carbon Supply Chains Guest: , Managing Director, Episode Overview: Ingrid Kylstad joins Chris to unpack how Klaveness Digital’s helps industrial shippers shift from day-to-day firefighting to foresight-driven planning. They dive into digital twins for the seaborne supply chain, AI-enabled scenario modeling, change management in B2B software, and what it will take to build resilient, decarbonized, and cost-effective supply chains. As part of our Challenge series, this conversation spotlights practical innovation that sticks. The Last Dinosaur is the official podcast of the Captain’s Table Challenge Key Points: Ingrid’s path into maritime: From EU regulatory affairs to the Norwegian Shipowners’ Association to leading at Klaveness Digital—why diverse backgrounds strengthen shipping. CargoValue explained: A SaaS “digital twin” that gives real-time shipment/inventory visibility, optimizes schedules, reduces stock-outs and demurrage, and enables global, real-time collaboration. From reactive to proactive: Why foresight, scenario planning, and “what-if” modeling beat spreadsheet firefighting. Change management is the product: Champions, early wins, and dedicated customer success are essential—Excel is the status-quo competitor. AI & automation: Co-pilots and automated workflows are moving from hype to table stakes; scenario modeling now far more attainable. Open ecosystems & APIs: Sophisticated buyers demand data portability and integrations; vendors must play nicely in diversified tech stacks. Decarbonization momentum: Less hype, more implementation—Scope 3 rigor is rising among large industrials; owners that serve them need credible data and tools. Learn More: Related episode: : Evidence-based ROI for digital platforms and closing the innovation gap for small/mid-size owners. Sponsor: This episode is sponsored by helping operators monitor, manage, and optimize emissions decisions. Learn more: accelleron.com/digital-solutions/emissions-desk Tune in Now: Available on , and . Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐, follow, and share. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates—and consider supporting us on . Your support truly makes a difference!
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Episode 120: From F1 to Wind Wings: John Cooper on Data-Driven Decarbonization
10/07/2025
Episode 120: From F1 to Wind Wings: John Cooper on Data-Driven Decarbonization
Episode Title Episode 120: From F1 to Wind Wings: John Cooper on Data-Driven Decarbonization Guest: CEO, Episode Overview: How motorsport-grade simulation, digital twins, and on-deck feedback are turning wind-assisted propulsion into real fuel and CO₂ savings—especially for smaller operators. Key Points: F1 → fleets: Simulation culture applied to ship design. Digital twin: ShipSEAT models routes; guides real voyages. Crew buy-in: Pride, stability, and daily “CO₂ saved.” Retrofit ROI: 25-year wings move between vessels. Smart routing: Engine + wind changes voyage planning. SME advantage: Financing + maker-lists unlock adoption. Policy tailwinds: EU ETS/FuelEU strengthen the case. Friendly competition: Gamified performance mindset. Advertising with The Last Dinosaur: Want to reach maritime decision-makers? Learn more from our friends at . Media Partnerships: The Last Dinosaur is a media partner of and Learn More: Tune in Now: Available on and . Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to the newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference!
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Episode 119: Project-Led Growth, Practical Decarbonization & Startup Bridges with Tabitha Logan
09/23/2025
Episode 119: Project-Led Growth, Practical Decarbonization & Startup Bridges with Tabitha Logan
Episode 119: Project-Led Growth, Practical Decarbonization & Startup Bridges with Tabitha Logan Guest: , Director of Projects, ; Co-Founder, Episode Overview: From fleet renewals to digitalization to sustainability-linked financing, Tabitha Logan brings a project leader’s perspective to maritime’s transformation. She also shares how The Captain’s Table Challenge continues to bridge the gap between shipowners and startups. Key Points: Leading growth at Cetus: S&P, M&A, branding, digitalization, ESG Why change management > new tools when driving adoption Quick wins that build buy-in (e.g., Shipfix saving teams 2–3 hours/day) Digitalization challenges: training, disruption, cyber risks Efficiency retrofits: rudder mods, prop tweaks, silicon coatings (8–10% fuel savings) Alternative fuels: biofuels now, methanol/ammonia still too costly Crew retention & morale gains from eco-fleet upgrades + Starlink connectivity Financing dividends: securing sustainability-linked loan facilities Captain’s Table: how startups win by proving value early and listening to feedback Future vision: global heats (London, Dubai) feeding Hong Kong finals; alumni + corporate labs Sponsor: This episode was sponsored by ; check out their noon reporter here: Learn More: Ep 114 – Josephine Le (The Hood): Seafarer welfare & transparency Ep 116 – Joy Basu (Smart Ship Hub): ROI-focused digital platforms for small/mid owners Tune in Now: | | Advertising with The Last Dinosaur: Want to reach maritime decision-makers? Learn more from our friends at . Media Partnerships: The Last Dinosaur is a media partner of The Captain’s Table and SHIPPINGInsight. Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Stay curious, stay salty.
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Episode 118: Driving Strategy and Scaling Maritime Tech with Aleksander Askeland of Manta Marine Technologies
09/16/2025
Episode 118: Driving Strategy and Scaling Maritime Tech with Aleksander Askeland of Manta Marine Technologies
Episode 118: Driving Strategy and Scaling Maritime Tech with of Guest: Aleksander Askeland, Chief Financial Officer, Manta Marine Technologies Episode Overview: Aleksander Askeland’s career journey has taken him from the Arctic coal trade to leading strategy and finance at Manta Marine Technologies, one of the most forward-looking players in maritime decarbonization. In this conversation, we dive into the CFO’s role as a strategic driver, the realities of scaling tech in shipping, and why digitalization and emissions compliance must go hand in hand. Key Points: From Svalbard to Shipping: How a coal export operation in the Arctic introduced Aleksander to shipping’s complexity and sparked his passion. The Yara Years: Why Yara’s pivot from scrubbers to a broader tech portfolio laid the groundwork for Manta’s evolution. CFO as Strategist: Moving beyond balance sheets and towards how finance leadership shapes market positioning, acquisitions, and tech bets. Change Management at Sea: Why crew adoption is central to decarbonization technologies and how to avoid disrupting daily workflows. Acquisition by Okapi Supply Trading SA: How independence from Yara is making Manta more agile in responding to market and regulatory pressures. Scaling Beyond Pilots: Overcoming the challenge of moving shipowners from 1–2 trial vessels to fleet-wide adoption. Investor Attention: Where maritime tech is in the “football match” of investment and why maritime-focused VCs are changing the game. Learn More: Listen to my conversation with Scott Bergeron, Head of Fleet Management at Oldendorff Carriers, on scaling maritime operations [Episode 82]. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Head cook and bottle washer: Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Proudly sponsored by: – the premier global pitch competition for maritime and logistics startups – North America’s premier technology & innovation forum for shipping – where the world’s maritime leaders meet Curious about adverstising with us? Get in touch with the team at
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Episode 117: Steering Shipping’s Future – Sustainability & Energy Transition at Swire
09/09/2025
Episode 117: Steering Shipping’s Future – Sustainability & Energy Transition at Swire
Episode 117: Steering Shipping’s Future – Sustainability & Energy Transition at Swire Guest: , Chief Sustainability & Energy Transition Officer, & Episode Overview: In this episode, part of The Last Dinosaur’s partnership with the , I sit down with Susana Germino to explore how one of the world’s oldest shipping companies is tackling the energy transition. From her personal journey — starting in coal transport and now leading sustainability — to Swire’s ambitious targets and pragmatic approach, Susana shares how legacy, innovation, and data come together in the drive toward decarbonization. The Last Dinosaur is also proud to be a media partner for and . Key Points: From Coal to Clean: Susana’s transition from managing coal transport in Indonesia to spearheading Swire’s sustainability and energy transition strategy. Sustainability as a License to Operate: How Swire shifted from “nice-to-have” to embedding sustainability at the core of operations. Targets & Roadmap: Net zero by 2050, 50% reductions by 2030, and near-term wins from biofuels and efficiency programs. Innovation & Experimentation: Why budgeting for failure is essential to real progress in maritime decarbonization. Just-in-Time Shipping: The potential fuel savings — and why ports and terminals are the missing link. Future Fuels & Training Gaps: The reality of infrastructure, seafarer training, and readiness for ammonia, methanol, and bio-LNG. Data & AI: From rudimentary collection to advanced voyage optimization, why AI is only as strong as the strategy it supports. Learn More: Episode 84: Innovation and Collaboration in the Maritime Industry with Vishal Khattri Episode 111: Cybersecurity at Sea with Dr. Gary Kessler Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If this episode sparked new ideas, please rate us 5-stars and follow on your favorite platform. Share with a colleague, subscribe to our newsletter, or support us on
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Episode 116: Digitizing the Forgotten Majority: Small Shipowners & Big Impact with Joy Basu
08/26/2025
Episode 116: Digitizing the Forgotten Majority: Small Shipowners & Big Impact with Joy Basu
Digitizing the Forgotten Majority: Small Shipowners & Big Impact with Joy Basu Guest: , CEO of Episode Overview: In this episode, Chris Aversano speaks with Joy Basu, CEO of Singapore-based Smart Ship Hub, about how small and mid-sized shipowners, often overlooked in the innovation conversation are finding measurable value in digital platforms. Joy shares how Smart Ship Hub delivers real-world results like faster trade settlements, reduced manual reporting, and better compliance. The conversation also explores bridging the digital maturity gap, creating proof through case studies, and what maritime can learn from avionics and other high-data sectors. Key Points: · The 60% Overlooked: Small and medium shipowners make up the majority of the market, yet most innovation headlines focus on the largest players. · ROI-First Mentality: These owners care about one thing the bottom-line impact. Smart Ship Hub’s adoption often starts with two ships and grows quickly based on proven savings. · Reducing Settlement Time: Joy shares a real-world example of slashing trade settlements from 30–45 days to 1–2 days using unified data. · Efficiency Gains That Matter: From emissions reporting to compliance, platforms can save hundreds of hours. This equates to 2–4 man-months per fleet. · Breaking Through Legacy Mindsets: Many smaller owners still operate with outdated tools. Case studies and clear KPIs are the only way to shift that mindset. · The Aviation Parallel: Companies with avionics-grade digital maturity are entering maritime and bringing with them scalable, connected infrastructure. · Don’t Sell, Show: Demonstration, not persuasion, is how Smart Ship Hub gets buy-in from skeptical users. · The Democratization of Data: The future belongs to those who can process and share data, not hoard it. Learn More: 🎧 Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: 💬 Like what you hear? Please rate the show 5 stars, follow, and share with your network. It really helps spread the word. ☕ Support the show: Buy Me a Coffee. Your support helps keep us going strong. 🌊 Proud media sponsor of London International Shipping Week 2025, The Captain's Table Challenge, and SHIPPINGInsight.
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Episode 115: Salvage, Safety, and the Future of Emergency Response with Joseph Farrell III, CEO, Resolve Marine
08/12/2025
Episode 115: Salvage, Safety, and the Future of Emergency Response with Joseph Farrell III, CEO, Resolve Marine
Episode 115: Salvage, Safety, and the Future of Emergency Response Guest: Joseph Farrell III, CEO, Episode Overview: In this episode, Chris speaks with Joseph Farrell III, CEO of Resolve Marine, about the evolving world of maritime salvage and emergency response. From the Deepwater Horizon to the recent Dali bridge response in Baltimore, Joe shares stories that show how Resolve navigates complexity, risk, and regulatory evolution. He also discusses the growing impact of digital tools, AI, and alternative fuels like ammonia and hydrogen on safety preparedness and training. Key Points: · The Evolution of Salvage: Joe reflects on Resolve’s 40-year journey from a small Caribbean operation to a global leader in emergency marine response. · Defining Moments: Milestones like the Exxon Valdez legislation and Deepwater Horizon shaped not only Resolve’s growth but also the regulatory landscape of salvage and oil spill response. · Rise of Alternative Fuels and Risks: The push for ammonia, LNG, hydrogen, and even nuclear fuels is forcing salvors to rethink emergency preparedness—despite little incentive or regulatory support. · Using AI and Data Smartly: Joe details how Resolve uses point cloud data, AIS tracking, and LLMs to improve decision-making, while emphasizing the limits of data in high-variability scenarios like salvage ops. · Dali Bridge Response & Social Media Pressure: Joe talks about managing public perception, drone surveillance, and misinformed critiques during the high-profile Dali bridge incident. · Crew Training and Talent Shortages: With U.S. mariner pipelines shrinking, Resolve is investing in long-term training to build the next generation of salvage experts from the ground up. · Leadership, Growth, and Communication: Joe shares his philosophy on sustainable growth and clarity in leadership. Learn More: Listen to: re. Tune in Now: 🎧 | ▶️ Watch the full episode on Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Artwork By: GA Design Produced by: Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars ⭐ and follow. Share it with a colleague or friend. Want to support the show?
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Episode 114: Empowering Seafarers with Josephine Le, Founder of The Hood
08/05/2025
Episode 114: Empowering Seafarers with Josephine Le, Founder of The Hood
Episode Title: Empowering Seafarers: Building Trust and Connection in Maritime with Josephine Le of The Hood Guest: , Founder of Episode Overview: In this powerful and human-centered conversation, Josephine Le, founder of The Hood, shares her journey from crewing superintendent to tech founder. The Hood is a digital platform reshaping how seafarers connect, build careers, and find trusted resources in a fragmented maritime industry. We unpack the origins of her idea, the mental health crisis at sea, and why digital connection and transparency must be a top priority across the global shipping workforce. Key Points: The Birth of The Hood: Josephine shares how the COVID-19 pandemic exposed deep flaws in crew change logistics and inspired her to build a platform rooted in empathy and real-world challenges. Not Just LinkedIn for Seafarers: The Hood isn't a corporate social network—it’s designed for the most inexperienced maritime workers, offering safer access to jobs, community, and resources. Smart Tools for a Safer Industry: Features like auto-CV generation, live document sharing, recruiter transparency, and candidate-controlled access are changing the game for job seekers and crewing teams alike. Fighting Fraud and Exploitation: The Hood only works with certified manning agencies and empowers users to report scams and misconduct—bringing accountability where it’s desperately needed. Mental Health and Support: Josephine discusses The Hood’s "We Care" section and partnerships with organizations like ISWAN and Sailors’ Society to support vulnerable workers. AI with Caution: Josephine explains why The Hood hasn’t rushed into AI, preferring to build something meaningful and data-backed over gimmicks. Books at 35,000 Feet: A lover of founder biographies, Josephine shares her current favorite—Man of This Land, about the rise of Hyundai’s shipbuilding empire. Learn More: Check out Episode 109 with Pam Kern on maritime mental health, and Episode 80 with Carl King on seafarer welfare and advocacy. Tune in Now: Available on | | Watch on Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If this episode moved you, follow, rate us 5 stars, share with your network, or support us via . Your support helps keep these important stories coming. The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media partner of: 🚢 The Captain’s Table 📆 London International Shipping Week 2025 🌐 SHIPPINGInsight
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Episode 113: Extending Ship Life & Decarbonization with Tom Lister, CEO of Global Ship Lease
07/29/2025
Episode 113: Extending Ship Life & Decarbonization with Tom Lister, CEO of Global Ship Lease
🎙️ The Last Dinosaur – Episode 113 Extending Ship Life, Decarbonization & Data with Tom Lister of Global Ship Lease Guest: , CEO, Episode Overview: Under Tom’s leadership, Global Ship Lease has grown into one of the world’s largest container tonnage providers while navigating the shifting seas of decarbonization, digitalization, and geopolitical disruption. In this episode, Tom explains how GSL extends the operational life of ships, collaborates with major charterers like Maersk, and leverages data and IoT to drive efficiency while keeping seafarer welfare at the core. Key Points: Owner, Operator, or Provider? Tom demystifies how GSL operates as a tonnage provider, using the airline analogy to clarify owner-operator differences for newcomers and veterans alike. Four Pillars of Decarbonization: From physical retrofits to biofuels, IoT data capture, and speculative investments in carbon capture, Tom outlines GSL’s balanced, collaborative approach to meeting emissions targets while keeping flexibility. Why Data Matters: GSL’s entire fleet is IoT-enabled with expanded Starlink bandwidth, enhancing both operational insight and crew welfare—critical for futureproofing in a fast-changing industry. Small Bets, Big Impact: Tom shares why GSL invests in maritime tech startups like Aqualung, highlighting the need for ‘smart money’ to drive practical innovation without locking into a single fuel pathway. Seafarer Welfare & Talent Pipeline: The conversation highlights the seafarer shortage as a top industry concern, resonating with discussions from our episode with Scott Bergeron on the future of crewing and maritime resilience. Adapting to Uncertainty: Tom reflects on how mid-size and smaller containerships provide optionality amid geopolitical shifts, emphasizing patience, discipline, and nimbleness as timeless maritime virtues. Leadership & Legacy: On a personal note, Tom shares what keeps him up at night—hint: it’s not the business—and what he’s reading, including Ninety Percent of Everything and James. Related Listening: The maritime industry is at a crossroads of tradition and innovation. With leaders like Scott Bergeron at the helm, there's hope for a future where technology and sustainability go hand in hand. Why You Should Listen “Shipping’s been around for millennia, and it will reshape itself to whatever the future needs. We see our role as staying flexible and ready for that.” – Tom Lister Whether you’re new to shipping or a seasoned professional, Tom’s perspective will help you understand the container sector’s real challenges, the collaborative push for decarbonization, and why data is the key to staying relevant. 🎧 Tune in Now: Listen on , , or watch on . 🚢 Help Us Grow: If you find value in these conversations, please: ✅ Rate us 5-stars ✅ Follow & share with your network ✅ Support via Your support keeps The Last Dinosaur going! Stay curious, stay salty, Chris
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Episode 112: Balancing Tradition & Innovation – Kenji Togasaki of IINO Lines
07/15/2025
Episode 112: Balancing Tradition & Innovation – Kenji Togasaki of IINO Lines
Embracing Innovation While Honoring Tradition: Kenji Togasaki of IINO Lines Guest: , Senior Vice President at Episode Overview: Chris speaks with Kenji Togasaki about how IINO Lines—a storied, publicly traded Japanese shipping company—balances operational excellence with forward-looking innovation. They explore IINO’s venture investments, focus on digitalization, decarbonization, and the promise of autonomous shipping while navigating the realities of a legacy shipping environment. Key Points: Kenji’s Maritime Journey: From chemical tanker chartering across Asia and the US to CPA-backed strategy roles, Kenji shares his pathway to leading IINO’s innovation initiatives. COVID Spark to Innovation: How IINO began structured innovation during COVID, moving the company’s mindset toward technology adoption. Investing to Learn: IINO’s strategy of investing in TMV (US), The Dock (Israel), and Motion Ventures (Singapore) to map the maritime startup landscape before moving to direct investments. Focus on Decarbonization, Autonomy, Digitalization: Why these areas are critical for long-term compliance and competitiveness. The Importance of Hardware: Why emissions reductions require physical technologies like wind propulsion alongside digital tools. Collaboration Across the Industry: How collaboration with charters, peers, and startups drives meaningful change. Building Internal Digital Literacy: Using internal newsletters and digital tools to raise innovation literacy within IINO’s conservative culture. Learn More: For more on how data-driven strategies are transforming maritime operations, revisit . 🎧 Listen Now: 🔹 🔹 🔹 Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Artwork by: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you find value in these conversations, please rate us 5-stars, follow, and share with a colleague. You can also support The Last Dinosaur on to help us continue bringing you top maritime leaders. We are proud to be a media sponsor of .
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🎙️ Episode 111: Cyber Threats on the High Seas, a Conversation with Dr. Gary Kessler
07/01/2025
🎙️ Episode 111: Cyber Threats on the High Seas, a Conversation with Dr. Gary Kessler
🎙️ Episode 111: Cyber Threats on the High Seas, a Conversation with Dr. Gary Kessler Guest: r, Co-Founder, at Episode Overview: Cybersecurity is often underestimated in maritime—but Dr. Gary Kessler is on a mission to change that. A pioneer in digital forensics and co-founder of the new Maritime Hacking Village at DEF CON, Gary joins us to break down the risks, realities, and next steps for a sector still catching up to the cyber age. From AIS spoofing to autonomous vessel vulnerabilities, this episode covers the full threat landscape—and what we can do about it. Key Points: Maritime Hacking Village at DEF CON: Why it matters that maritime now has a dedicated space at the world’s most iconic hacker conference. AIS & GPS Spoofing Risks: How easy it is to manipulate navigation systems—and the implications for global trade. AI, Autonomy & the Cyber Frontier: What happens when bad data meets automation—and why “garbage in, danger out” is the new threat model. Cybersecurity ≠ Cyber Awareness: Dr. Kessler argues for focusing on information protection—not just computers and networks. Workforce Development & Culture: We need digitally aware seafarers—and secure systems built by better-trained developers. Ports, Protocols & the Bigger Picture: From NMEA vulnerabilities to smart port exposure, the entire supply chain is at risk. The Policy Gap & Industry Readiness: If IMO can't lead, can insurers and charterers enforce change? Learn More: 🎧 Listen to 🎧 Check out Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, support us at The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor for .
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Episode 110: Rebuilding Shipbuilding – Remote Work, Training & the Future of U.S. Yards with TotalTek Jason Lloyd
06/17/2025
Episode 110: Rebuilding Shipbuilding – Remote Work, Training & the Future of U.S. Yards with TotalTek Jason Lloyd
Episode 110: Rebuilding Shipbuilding – Remote Work, Training & the Future of U.S. Yards Guest: Senior Executive at Episode Overview: Jason Lloyd brings over three decades of leadership experience, forged in the U.S. Navy’s nuclear power program, to the conversation on reviving America’s shipbuilding capabilities. In this episode, he explores how TotalTek is pioneering remote workforce models in ship design and engineering, tackling the shipyard talent gap, and creating pathways for the next generation of maritime professionals. From welding lessons of WWII to the promise of the , this is a forward-looking take on a critical national issue. Key Points: A Historical Wake-Up Call: The U.S. went from building 5,000 ships in WWII to just 12 per year today—Jason breaks down the policy decisions that led to this decline and what must change. Remote Work in Ship Design: TotalTek has embraced a distributed engineering model, proving that with the right values, remote work can unlock a new, untapped labor pool across the country. Training the Next Generation: TotalTech’s partnership with Gulf Coast Community College helps new designers gain practical experience, breaking the “3 years of experience for an entry-level job” paradox. Bridging the Industrial Gap: Rebuilding capacity isn't just about welders—America is also facing a critical shortage of ship designers and engineers. Remote work and targeted training are part of the solution. The SHIPS Act – Hope on the Horizon: With bipartisan support and a focus on both infrastructure and workforce development, this proposed legislation could reshape U.S. maritime capabilities. New Collar Work, New Thinking: Additive manufacturing, cold spray, and other advanced techniques may be key to scaling up shipbuilding—if the U.S. embraces risk and innovation. From Skeptic to Believer: Jason candidly shares how he once doubted remote work—until he realized that getting the best people in the right roles matters more than where they sit. Learn More: Check out for a broader look at how innovation intersects with workforce trends in shipping. Tune in Now: Available on , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference!
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Episode 109: Mental Health at Sea – A Real Talk with Pam Kern
06/03/2025
Episode 109: Mental Health at Sea – A Real Talk with Pam Kern
Episode 109: Mental Health at Sea – A Real Talk with Pam Kern Guest: , MSLCSW, Director of Maritime Mental Health Services, Episode Overview: In this powerful episode, sits down with Pam Kern, a former cruise ship officer turned licensed clinical social worker, to explore the often unspoken realities of mental health at sea. Pam brings deep insight from both her 18 years aboard cruise ships and her current role supporting seafarers through Port Medical Management. From the psychological toll of constant connectivity to the role of leadership in shaping onboard culture, this episode dives into what it really means to stay well in today’s maritime world. Key Points: Life Aboard Cruise Ships: Pam reflects on her 18 years managing front-of-house operations on cruise ships, sharing lessons about human behavior, culture, and burnout. A Shift Toward Mental Health: Her journey from crew member to clinician and her “aha” moment in supporting crew well-being. Crew Isolation & Mental Load: How cruise and cargo environments differ—and what unites them in terms of seafarer mental health. The Double-Edged Sword of Connectivity: Why better internet access can help—and hurt—crew well-being without proper support strategies. Cultural Stigma and the Need for Change: Why “good enough” mental health care isn’t good enough, and the dangers of checking the box. Toxic Leadership and Its Ripple Effects: Pam highlights the impact of onboard leadership culture and the need for emotional temperature checks. Mental Health Meets Maritime Tech: From co-intelligence to platform overload—how digital transformation affects psychological resilience at sea. Learn More: Check out . Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: 💬 Like what you hear? Please rate the show 5 stars, follow, and share with your network. ☕ Support the show: 🌊 Proud media sponsor of
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Episode 108: Wireless Safety and Real-Time Crew Monitoring with Sven Brooks of ScanReach
05/20/2025
Episode 108: Wireless Safety and Real-Time Crew Monitoring with Sven Brooks of ScanReach
Episode 108: Wireless Safety and Real-Time Crew Monitoring with Sven Brooks of ScanReach Guest: , CEO of Episode Overview: Sven Brooks of ScanReach joins The Last Dinosaur to discuss how wireless mesh networks and wearables are transforming safety and connectivity at sea. From tracking crew locations in real time to enabling fast emergency response and even helping address harassment, this episode explores how digital innovation can empower seafarers, not burden them. Key Points: Purpose-Built Mesh Network: ScanReach has developed a wireless system made specifically for steel ship environments, solving a major connectivity challenge. Real-Time Crew Location: Wearables allow for instant crew mustering and emergency tracking AND boosting safety without infringing on privacy. Safety, Not Surveillance: GDPR compliant design and clear boundaries (like no cabin tracking) ensure transparency and trust. Unexpected Benefits: The system has helped in real-world incidents, including injuries and harassment, even though it wasn’t originally built for that. Gamified Fuel Awareness: Just like eco-driving, crew members who see fuel consumption in real time are naturally incentivized to improve. Industrial IoT at Sea: ScanReach uses off-the-shelf BLE sensors to enhance monitoring—from confined space entry to vibration and humidity data. ‘Halftime’ in Maritime Digitalization: Sven believes we’re in the second phase of maritime tech, one that’s more open, modular, and collaborative. Learn More: 🎧 🛳 Tune in Now: Available on , , and Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference!
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Episode 107: Driving Innovation at Sea – A Conversation with Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping
05/13/2025
Episode 107: Driving Innovation at Sea – A Conversation with Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping
Episode 107: Driving Innovation at Sea – A Conversation with Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping Guest: Director of Innovation, Episode Overview: In this episode, Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping shares how a legacy tanker company can still lead in digital innovation. From practical applications of onboard tech to fostering a culture of experimentation, Garry explains what it means to modernize responsibly in a highly regulated, performance-driven sector. Key Points: Innovation in the Tanker Sector: Garry discusses the challenges and opportunities of driving innovation in a traditional, asset-heavy environment like Ardmore. From Seafarer to Strategist: Garry’s career journey from working at sea to leading innovation, shapes how he bridges technology and real-world operations. Digitalizing with Purpose: Innovation isn’t about chasing trends. Garry emphasizes practical, scalable solutions that improve safety, efficiency, and compliance. Crew Engagement Matters: No tech rollout succeeds without the support of seafarers. Garry shares how Ardmore ensures buy-in from those onboard. Partnerships and Ecosystems: Collaboration with startups and tech partners helps Ardmore stay agile and informed on emerging trends. Looking Ahead: From alternative fuels to real-time data use, Garry paints a picture of how tankers are transforming. Lessons from the Frontline: Insights from testing tools like digital twins and crew safety wearables. Learn More: If this episode resonated with you, check out on the future of seafarers and sustainability, and E on innovation partnerships. Tune in Now: Available on , and more! Watch the episode on Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! 🌊
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Episode 106: The Evolving Role of Freight Trading in a Digital World
04/29/2025
Episode 106: The Evolving Role of Freight Trading in a Digital World
🎙 Episode 106: The Evolving Role of Freight Trading in a Digital World Guest: Head of Research and FFA, and (Copenhagen Merchants Group) Overview: From chartering desks to freight analytics, Mads Frank Markussen bridges operational experience with digital innovation in maritime trading. In this episode, we explore how Navi Merchants builds freight models that empower — not replace — traders, the enduring value of brokers, and why FFAs are gaining ground in a volatile market. Key Points: Data models must serve the trader, not the other way around. Despite digitalization, brokers and relationships remain critical. Entrepreneurs can really bloom in Denmark, Mads' maritime DNA runs deep. Related Episodes: – – 🎧 Listen now on , , & more. 💬 Like what you hear? Please rate the show 5 stars, follow, and share with your network. It really helps spread the word. ☕ Support the show: — your support helps keep us going strong. 🎶 Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” 🎨 Art by: GA Design 🎛️ Produced by: Chris Aversano 🌊 Proud media sponsor of
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Episode 105: Decarbonization Meets Digital - zero44’s Vision for Maritime Compliance
04/22/2025
Episode 105: Decarbonization Meets Digital - zero44’s Vision for Maritime Compliance
Episode 105: Decarbonization Meets Digital - zero44’s Vision for Maritime Compliance Guest: , Co-founder & Managing Director, Episode Overview: In this episode, we sit down with Friederike Hesse, Co-founder and Managing Director of zero44, a Berlin-based startup helping the maritime industry navigate decarbonization through smart digital tools. From FuelEU Maritime to commercial strategy and pooling, Friederike breaks down how zero44 is giving operators a way to not only comply—but thrive. Key Points: The FuelEU Maritime Effect: How upcoming EU regulations are shaping behavior in chartering and operations. From Vision to Product: The founding of zero44 and why decarbonization isn’t just about emissions—it’s about economics. Pooling and Compliance: Why zero44 built tooling to handle pooling mechanics and its impact on chartering relationships. Making Decarbonization Commercial: Friederike explains how compliance tools can drive smarter commercial decisions. Challenges of Change: The biggest barriers to tech adoption in a fragmented, global industry. Berlin Meets Maritime: The unique energy of Germany’s startup scene and how it’s influencing maritime innovation. Partnerships that Matter: How relationships—with customers, class societies, and fellow startups—are key to creating traction. Learn More: → For another look at decarbonization, check out → For a big-picture look at how digitalization and decarbonization intersect, listen to Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano 🔗 Support Our Podcast: If you found value in this episode, rate us 5-stars and follow! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Interested in sponsorships? Let’s talk! 📢 Special Mention: The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor of
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Episode 104: From Satellites to Shipping – Terminal Innovation with Paul Albert-Lebrun
04/08/2025
Episode 104: From Satellites to Shipping – Terminal Innovation with Paul Albert-Lebrun
Episode 104: From Satellites to Shipping – Terminal Innovation with Paul Albert-Lebrun Guest: , Co-Founder & CEO of Paul joins us to explore how his aerospace background helped shape Nodal, a company creating a data assistant for terminal operators. We talk empathy in product design, the stubbornness of Excel, and the realities of bringing AI into complex operational environments. In this episode: What satellite operations taught Paul about physical infrastructure Why tech needs to meet maritime where it is — not replace it Lessons from inside the terminal operator’s office (yes, they’re tired of dashboards) How Nodal helps connect siloed data across platforms Fundraising in a shifting geopolitical landscape Watch & listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Learn More: Check out Episode Port Progress: Modernizing New York and New Jersey's Maritime Hub with Bethann Rooney Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on 🎵 Music by: Peg and The Rejected King of SKA 🎨 Artwork By: GA Design 🎙️ Produced by: Chris Aversano 🔗 Support Our Podcast: If you found value in this episode, rate us 5-stars and follow! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Interested in sponsorships? Let’s talk! 📢 Special Mention: The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor of
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Episode 103: Sustainability, Resilience & the Future of Ports with Dr. Beatriz Canamary
03/25/2025
Episode 103: Sustainability, Resilience & the Future of Ports with Dr. Beatriz Canamary
Episode 103: Sustainability, Resilience & the Future of Ports with Dr. Beatriz Canamary Guest: Founder & CEO of , Professor at Florida Polytechnic University Episode Overview: In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Beatriz Canamary, a leader at the intersection of sustainability and logistics. As the founder of SuRe Strategy and a professor at Florida Polytechnic University, Dr. Canamary brings a unique perspective on integrating sustainability into port operations, supply chains, and maritime infrastructure. We discuss her career journey, the evolving role of ports in decarbonization, and the challenges of navigating shifting policies while maintaining a sustainable and resilient maritime industry. Key Points: The Role of Ports in Maritime Decarbonization: Dr. Canamary explains why ports sit at the crossroads of the green transition, influencing fuel supply, shipbuilding, and operational strategies. Scope 3 Emissions & Why They Matter: Understanding how ports measure and report emissions beyond their direct operations—and how collaboration is key. Green Corridors & Industry Collaboration: Examining how initiatives like the LA-Shanghai green shipping corridor drive decarbonization and why data-sharing remains a challenge. ZEMBA – The Zero Emissions Maritime Buyers Alliance: An industry-led initiative where cargo owners and shipping companies partner to accelerate decarbonization. Navigating Policy Uncertainty in Maritime: Insights into how shifting regulations and trade policies impact long-term sustainability strategies. Attracting the Next Generation to Maritime Careers: Dr. Canamary shares her perspective on engaging Gen Z talent and her new initiative, Link Gen Z, a learning platform for sustainability and maritime education. Beyond ports: Dr Canamary is contributing to a book called ‘Sustainability in the Cruise Industry’ and working on her own book: "Maritime Ports of Tomorrow: Navigating Resilience and Sustainability in Global Supply Chains" Recommended Reads: Dr. Canamary shares her current reading list, including Maritime Decarbonization, The Port of the Future, and Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order by Ray Dalio. Learn More: Check out Episode 92: Port Miami’s Vision for the Future with Christopher Hudtwalcker. Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on 🎵 Music by: Peg and The Rejected King of SKA 🎨 Artwork By: GA Design 🎙️ Produced by: Chris Aversano 🔗 Support Our Podcast: If you found value in this episode, rate us 5-stars and follow! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Interested in sponsorships? Let’s talk! You can also buy me a coffee! 📢 Special Mention: The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor of
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Episode 102: Optimizing Port State Control Inspections with Fabian Fussek
03/18/2025
Episode 102: Optimizing Port State Control Inspections with Fabian Fussek
Guest: , Co-Founder & CEO of Episode Overview: In this episode of , I sit down with Fabian Fussek, the Co-Founder and CEO of Kaiko Systems. Fabian and his team are revolutionizing how crews and technical managers navigate the challenges of Port State Control (PSC) inspections. We break down what these inspections are, why they matter, and how Kaiko Systems' digital tools are streamlining compliance and operational efficiency. Fabian also shares his journey from the tech sector to maritime, the challenges of data standardization in shipping, and why integrating AI-driven solutions is key to improving safety and performance at sea. Key Points: The Importance of Port State Control Inspections PSC inspections ensure vessels meet international regulations and safety standards. "Think of it like a police inspection on the road—if you're not prepared, it can lead to costly delays and detentions." How Kaiko Systems is Simplifying Compliance Provides structured checklists and mobile-first tools for crews to prepare in advance. Allows technical managers to access real-time data on ship readiness. Bridging the Gap Between Ship and Shore "Seafarers are often left to manage inspections alone. Our tools align the incentives between ship and shore to ensure seamless compliance." Kaiko helps shipowners and technical managers track inspection readiness remotely. The Rise of AI in Maritime Compliance AI-driven insights help predict potential deficiencies before inspections occur. "We built Kai, an AI agent that simplifies reporting and risk assessments, reducing manual workload." Challenges in Data Standardization "90% of data generated on a ship never leaves it—this is a massive untapped resource." Kaiko Systems works to structure and standardize data for seamless integration with shipping companies' existing systems. Overcoming Resistance to Digitalization Seafarers are more tech-savvy than many expect: "They want tools that actually help them do their job better." Kaiko collaborates directly with frontline workers to ensure usability and effectiveness. Lessons for Maritime Entrepreneurs Fabian’s advice for founders: "Be open to luck, listen to your customers, and build strong industry relationships." The role of venture studios in fostering maritime tech startups. Learn More: 🔹 Related Episode: Check out episode 🔹 Kaiko Systems website: 🎧 Tune in Now: Available on , and 🎶 Music by: Peg and The Rejected King of SKA 🎨 Artwork By: GA Design 🎙 Produced by: Chris Aversano 💡 Support Our Podcast: Enjoyed this episode? Rate us 5-stars, subscribe to our newsletter, and share with your network. Your support helps us grow! 📢 Special Mention: The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor of Interested in sponsoring an episode? Let’s talk! ⛵ Until next time—fair winds and following seas! 🌊
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Episode 101: Enhancing Vessel Operations with AI-Driven Asset Management
03/04/2025
Episode 101: Enhancing Vessel Operations with AI-Driven Asset Management
Episode 101: Enhancing Vessel Operations with AI-Driven Asset Management Guest: , Product Owner at Episode Overview: This episode of features Ilari Lemmetty, Product Owner at Elomatic, discussing the launch of the Aura Asset Performance Management system. This AI-powered platform enhances vessel operations by providing shipowners with clean, actionable data for predictive maintenance. Key Points: The Development of Aura "The development of Aura was a gradual process with multiple 'light bulb' moments rather than a single breakthrough." The shift from shipyard-driven maintenance to owner-controlled fleet optimization. AI in Predictive Maintenance "AI is not replacing human expertise but complementing it by detecting anomalies that may go unnoticed." AI optimizes maintenance schedules, reducing downtime and unexpected failures. Data Ownership and Collaboration "Historically, OEMs have controlled equipment data, but regulatory changes are shifting data ownership towards shipowners." Breaking down data silos enables more efficient fleet management. The Future of AI Regulation "Regulatory bodies are becoming more open to AI-driven predictive maintenance, provided it can be validated as effective." The emphasis is shifting from regulating AI development to its applications. Maritime as a Career Path "Maritime offers a dynamic international environment, providing opportunities to work with diverse cultures and cutting-edge technology." The industry’s digital transformation makes it an exciting time to get involved. Listen Now Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on Support the Podcast If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. and help keep these stories alive! Your support truly makes a difference! Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of , coming in September 2025.
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Episode 100: The Maritime Podcasting Pioneer – Lena Gothberg
02/25/2025
Episode 100: The Maritime Podcasting Pioneer – Lena Gothberg
Episode 100: The Maritime Podcasting Pioneer – Lena Gothberg Guest: , Host of Why It Matters: This is The Big One—the 100th episode of ! And who better to join than Lena Gothberg, a trailblazer in maritime podcasting? For nearly a decade, Lena has been the voice behind The Shipping Podcast, making it the longest-running podcast dedicated to the maritime industry. This episode is not just about podcasting; it’s about how storytelling and digital media are reshaping maritime communications. Key Points: The Evolution of Maritime Podcasting: How Lena started The Shipping Podcast when podcasting in maritime wasn’t even a concept. "Shipping is storytelling." – Lena Gothberg The challenges of convincing industry professionals to participate in an unfamiliar medium. Longevity in Podcasting: Why so many podcasts don’t last past 10 episodes. "If you last more than three months, you're okay." – Lena Gothberg Lena’s personal journey reaching nearly a decade of continuous podcasting. Women’s Voices in Maritime: Lena’s commitment to featuring women in the maritime industry. "It’s not about excluding men, it’s about ensuring women have a voice too." – Lena Gothberg How representation has evolved over time. Digitalization & Social Media’s Role in Maritime: The power of podcasts and social media in breaking maritime’s traditional communication barriers. "We need to bring the invisible industry into the digital universe." – Lena Gothberg Why storytelling is key in an industry often seen as invisible to the public. The Future of Podcasting in Shipping: Video vs. audio—does every podcast need a video component? "Why should I let people watch me while I work?" – Lena Gothberg The impact of industry changes on independent maritime content creators. Engaging the Next Generation: Why maritime needs to embrace modern media to attract talent. "Students need to hear from real people, not just read textbooks." – Lena Gothberg The role of podcasts in educating newcomers and shaping industry narratives. Lessons from 10 Years of Podcasting: Key takeaways for those looking to start their own podcast in maritime or beyond. "Do it your way. If people want to listen, they will." – Lena Gothberg The importance of persistence and adaptability. Listen Now: Available on , , and . Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a five-star review, and share! Support the Podcast: If you enjoy The Last Dinosaur Podcast, consider supporting through . Your support keeps these stories alive! Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano
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Episode 99: Navigating the Future of Maritime Training with Capt. Pradeep Chawla
02/18/2025
Episode 99: Navigating the Future of Maritime Training with Capt. Pradeep Chawla
Episode 99: Navigating the Future of Maritime Training with Capt. Pradeep Chawla Guest: , Chairman of GlobalMET and Founder of Episode Overview: Capt. Chawla shares insights from his 50-year maritime career, transitioning from sea to leadership at , and now pioneering digital training at MarinePALS. We explore the evolution of maritime education, the role of technology, and the changing landscape of seafarer training. Key Points: The Shift to Digital Learning "Nobody likes reading anymore. Most learning now happens via YouTube, not textbooks." Microlearning, gamification, and VR are reshaping how seafarers acquire critical skills. Why VR and Gamification Matter First-time experiences, like entering a ship’s forpeak tank, can be simulated to build confidence. "A senior master once crashed a Cape-size bulk carrier in a simulator, but after seven attempts, he got it right—he never forgot that lesson." Adapting to Alternative Fuels LNG, ammonia, and methanol are the future—but require specialized training. MarinePALS developed VR training for LNG bunkering, helping crew adapt before stepping on board. Technology and Training Evolution "A second mate’s passage planning once took 12 hours—now it’s automated in two." Digitalization is reshaping navigation and ship operations, requiring new skill sets. The Power of Social Media in Shipping Shipping has traditionally operated in the shadows, but platforms like YouTube and Instagram can help highlight the industry’s importance. "In my previous company, we went from 20,000 to 100,000 followers by sharing crew-generated content—seafarers love seeing their own work showcased." The Seafarer Shortage and Industry Future Despite concerns, Capt. Chawla is optimistic: "The sea still attracts the brave." To appeal to the next generation, highlight responsibility: "By 22, you’ll be in charge of a $400M asset. Where else does that happen?" Advice for the Next Generation "Forget the idea that maritime is an outdated industry—it's evolving fast, and there’s no better time to join." Training needs to reflect modern learning habits: short, engaging, and interactive. Learn More: Related episode: MarinePALS website: Tune in Now: Available on , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor o, coming in September 2025.
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Episode 98: Charting the Future of Liner Shipping with Roberto Giannetta
02/04/2025
Episode 98: Charting the Future of Liner Shipping with Roberto Giannetta
Episode 98: Charting the Future of Liner Shipping with Roberto Giannetta Guest: Chairman, Episode Overview: In this episode, we sit down with Roberto Giannetta, a seasoned expert with over 35 years of experience in the liner shipping industry and the chairman of the Hong Kong Liner Shipping Association. Roberto shares insights into the pivotal role liner shipping plays in global trade, the challenges of decarbonization, and the opportunities brought by digitalization. He discusses how standardization and collaboration across the industry are key to addressing these challenges, alongside the progress being made in adopting green fuels and modern technologies. This episode was brought to you in association with the ! Key Points: Decarbonization in Liner Shipping: How the structured nature of liner shipping offers advantages in planning and adapting to decarbonization efforts. The challenges of green fuel adoption, including costs and global supply limitations. Roberto’s perspective on the future of propulsion systems, including modular nuclear reactors. The Role of Digitalization: The importance of standardizing systems and terminology across the industry to drive efficiency. Progress in digital bills of lading and other technologies aimed at reducing reliance on paper-based systems. Global Collaboration and Leadership: How organizations like the International Maritime Organization (IMO) are shaping the future of shipping regulations. The challenges of aligning stakeholders across jurisdictions to create unified standards. Asia’s Unique Role in Maritime Innovation: Insights into how automation is improving efficiency in Asia's terminals and its impact on job security. The role of China as a leader in green fuel production and its influence on global shipping. Roberto’s Career Journey: From IT to shipping, Roberto reflects on his fascinating path to becoming a key voice in the maritime industry. Learn More: For more on digital bills of lading, check out with Piotr Cichocki of Secro, where we explored the journey toward standardization and the impact of digitalization on global trade. Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Artwork By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London International Shipping Week coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration
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Episode 97: Maritime Leadership and Education in the 21st Century with Rear Admiral John Okon, President SUNY Maritime College
01/28/2025
Episode 97: Maritime Leadership and Education in the 21st Century with Rear Admiral John Okon, President SUNY Maritime College
Episode 97: Maritime Leadership and Education in the 21st Century with Rear Admiral John Okon, President SUNY Maritime College Guest: President, Episode Overview: In this episode, Christopher Aversano speaks with Rear Admiral John Okon, the newest president of SUNY Maritime College. They discuss how maritime education has evolved to meet the demands of an increasingly digital and interconnected world. Admiral Okon shares insights into his leadership journey, the critical importance of cybersecurity in maritime education, and the innovative ways SUNY Maritime is preparing for the next generation of maritime leaders. Key Points: Leadership at SUNY Maritime: Admiral Okon's journey from student to president and his vision for leading the college into its next chapter. “My first day in uniform was at Maritime, and my last day in uniform was at Maritime. This institution shaped my career and my life.” Critical Thinking and Character-Based Leadership: Why these two pillars are essential for the future of maritime professionals. “We are trying to train and educate good human beings. Leadership starts with one fundamental aspect—being a good human being.” The Role of Cybersecurity: Addressing the growing importance of cybersecurity in maritime education and industry practices. “Cybersecurity lives in everything we have—engine controls, bridges, logistics systems. We need to bake it into our education and training.” Collaborating Across Maritime Academies: How state maritime academies and Kings Point work together to strengthen the industry. “When the rubber meets the road, we work together. A rising tide floats all boats.” Social Media as a Tool for Outreach: Enhancing SUNY Maritime's brand and attracting students through dynamic online engagement. “We’ve raised our social media presence significantly, and the feedback is clear—students are finding us through these platforms.” Attracting Talent to the Industry: Strategies to bring more students into maritime careers and showcase the value of a maritime education. “Come to Maritime, work hard for four years, and benefit for the next 40.” Celebrating 150 Years: Reflecting on the rich history and enduring legacy of SUNY Maritime College during its sesquicentennial. “This is a 150-year-old family with deep roots across the world. When you join, you’re part of something much bigger.” Learn More: Explore our with Captain Matthew Glass discussing the and the challenges that he faces as a pilot in one of the busiest waterways in the world. Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates, and consider sponsoring an episode. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of . Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration!
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Episode 96: Steering the Future: How the Propeller Club is Transforming Maritime Associations with Maria Conatser
01/14/2025
Episode 96: Steering the Future: How the Propeller Club is Transforming Maritime Associations with Maria Conatser
Episode 96 Guest: , President, Senior Financial Planning Analyst, Episode Overview: Maria Conatser joins to discuss the transformation needed for industry associations like the International Propeller Club to remain relevant in today’s digital age. She highlights the strategies to attract and retain members, leverage social media, and modernize offerings while reflecting on the organization’s rich history and ongoing contributions to the maritime industry. Key Points: The Propeller Club’s Legacy and Evolution: Founded in 1922, the International Propeller Club is a cornerstone of maritime networking. Maria shares its evolution from informal luncheons to a global network with over 80 ports worldwide. Adapting to the Digital Age: Associations must embrace technology to meet the expectations of younger members, including virtual events, interactive websites, and engaging social media campaigns. Transformative Leadership: Maria’s vision for revitalization includes expanding international chapters, strengthening government advocacy, and fostering collaboration with like-minded organizations. Impact of the Pandemic: COVID-19 accelerated the adoption of digital tools, enabling global connections through virtual meetings and webinars. This shift created opportunities to reach wider audiences. Engaging the Next Generation: To attract younger maritime professionals, the Propeller Club is diversifying its offerings, from social events to educational webinars, and addressing workforce development challenges. Workforce Development and Retention: Maria emphasizes the need for improving the industry's perception, providing connectivity and work-life balance for seafarers, and aligning with societal values to attract new talent. Strengthening International Relations: The Propeller Club’s intentional push for international growth includes new chapters in Bulgaria, Cyprus, Norway, and more, signaling its commitment to a global maritime strategy. Leveraging Social Media: A robust digital presence is key to staying relevant. Maria shares the Propeller Club’s ongoing efforts to modernize its website and social media strategies. The Future of Maritime Advocacy: Addressing “sea blindness,” Maria calls for greater public awareness about maritime’s essential role and its environmental advantages in global trade. Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration! Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference!
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