The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age

Join Christopher Aversano, a seasoned maritime industry expert, as he delves into the fascinating world of digitization in shipping on this interview-style podcast. Gain insights from leading professionals and innovators on the latest trends, technologies, and best practices shaping the maritime industry. Whether you're a seasoned seafarer, a tech enthusiast, or just curious about the future of shipping, this podcast is the perfect place to explore the cutting-edge of digital transformation in one of the world's oldest and most essential industries.

Episode 132: How Cargill Thinks About Decarbonization, Risk, and the Future of Shipping with Jan Dieleman 03/17/2026

Episode 132: How Cargill Thinks About Decarbonization, Risk, and the Future of Shipping with Jan Dieleman Episode 132: How Cargill Thinks About Decarbonization, Risk, and the Future of Shipping with Jan Dieleman Guest: Jan Dieleman President, Ocean Transportation — Cargill Chair, Global Maritime Forum Episode Overview In this episode of The Last Dinosaur, Chris Aversano speaks with , President of Ocean Transportation at and Chair of the . Cargill charters hundreds of vessels across global trades at any given time, moving grains, energy products, and raw materials around the world. From that vantage point, Jan offers a unique charterer perspective on how shipping decisions are made. Hint: it is often long before those decisions become visible to the broader market. At a time when tensions around Iran and the Strait of Hormuz continue to create uncertainty for global shipping and energy flows, the conversation explores how leaders in shipping actually make decisions in real time. The discussion touches on the commercial realities behind maritime decarbonization, how large organizations approach experimentation with new technologies, and why decision-making in shipping often requires acting on imperfect information. Chris and Jan also discuss the role of data in modern shipping, the challenge of balancing analysis with action during geopolitical disruptions, and why maritime remains one of the most essential yet often overlooked industries in the global economy. Chapters 00:00 Intro & Sponsor 01:30 Navigating the Evolving Maritime Landscape 03:09 Jan Dieleman's Journey in Shipping 05:57 Bridging the Gap: Charterers and Owners 10:31 Decarbonization: A Collaborative Journey 13:39 The Economics of Decarbonization 18:44 Experimentation and Transparency in Shipping 22:18 Diverse Dynamics in Maritime Industries 26:33 The Role of Data in Decision Making 31:39 Balancing Risk and Analysis in Leadership 34:23 Attracting Talent to the Maritime Industry 36:47 The Hidden Importance of Shipping Related Listening Sponsor This episode is sponsored by , helping shipowners and operators turn vessel data into measurable operational improvements across their fleets. Want to learn more about sponsoring an episode? Contact my friends at Tune In Available on , , and Music by: Peg and The Rejected — King of Ska Artwork by: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support the Podcast If you found value in this episode: • Follow The Last Dinosaur on Spotify or Apple Podcasts • Leave a 5-star review • Share the episode with someone in the maritime industry You can also support the show through Stay curious, stay salty. 🦕⚓ /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/40475680

Episode 131: Driving Change in Maritime, and Why Port Calls Still Feel Like Orchestrated Chaos 03/03/2026

Episode 131: Driving Change in Maritime, and Why Port Calls Still Feel Like Orchestrated Chaos Episode 131: Driving Change in Maritime, and Why Port Calls Still Feel Like Orchestrated Chaos Guest: , CEO and Co-Founder, Also: Host of the vodcast Special Note: This is a co-produced episode and will be released on both The Last Dinosaur and Teqplay’s vodcast Driving Change in Maritime with Teqplay Episode Overview: This one is a true back and forth. Léon and Chris co-host a joint episode that moves from the reality of port call complexity to why “visibility” is still surprisingly hard, and how digital twins can make maritime data usable in the moments that matter. They also dig into transparency, trust, AI, talent, and why the industry’s relationship DNA is not going anywhere. Key Discussion Highlights (short + punchy): 28 stakeholders in a single port call: Why port calls are coordinated systems, not simple arrivals. Digital twin, not another dashboard: Combining AIS, port context, and processes into something actionable. Paperwork is still the drag: How manual documentation persists despite the cost of waiting. “Ships dropping out of the air”: The visibility gap that should not exist in a connected world. Transparency creates tension: When operational timestamps feel proprietary and why that is changing. AI changes the hiding game: If data is out there, it is increasingly hard to keep it invisible. Speed of change is uneven: Big players move first, but smaller firms are surprising everyone. Talent is a long game: Programs, hackathons, and the small steps that compound into change. Trust is the unlock: Shifting from default distrust to shared efficiency and predictability. Learn More: Teqplay’s vodcast: Driving Change in Maritime with Teqplay (this episode will be posted there as well). Tune in Now: Available on , , and more. Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to the newsletter for more updates. Sponsorship and Advertising: Interested in sponsoring an episode or advertising with The Last Dinosaur? Reach out via to explore options and audience packages. /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/40266625

Episode 130: Risk Is Changing, Lets Talk P&I Clubs, Digitalization, and the New Reality of Maritime Insurance 02/17/2026

Episode 130: Risk Is Changing, Lets Talk P&I Clubs, Digitalization, and the New Reality of Maritime Insurance Guest: CEO, Episode Overview Shipping has always been about risk. But the nature of that risk is shifting. In this episode, I sit down with Thomas Nordberg, CEO of The Swedish Club, to explore how maritime risk has evolved from vessel-centric, event-driven incidents to complex systemic exposures shaped by geopolitics, regulation, cyber threats, and digital transformation. This is not a conversation about premiums and policies. It is a practical look at how insurers are adapting, how shipowners should be thinking differently, and why the P&I club model may be more relevant today than ever. is proud to collaborate with Digital Ship to continue these practical conversations around maritime digitalization and risk. Key Discussion Highlights ✅ Risk Is Now Systemic Geopolitics and regulation reshape exposure overnight. ✅ How the Mutual Model Works Member-owned structure. Shared risk. Long-term alignment. ✅ Reputation Moves at Internet Speed Incidents are public in minutes. ✅ From Claims to Prevention Data and analytics are shifting insurance from reactive to proactive. ✅ Cyber Is Expanding Fast Dedicated products are emerging as digital exposure grows. ✅ Digital Impacts Crew Welfare Connectivity now affects retention and wellbeing. Why This Episode Matters The risk profile in shipping is expanding, not shrinking. Geopolitical volatility. Cyber threats. Regulatory acceleration. Green tech. Understanding how insurers see these risks gives operators a different lens as we move into 2026 and beyond. Tune In Now Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Related Listening For more on incident response and public visibility, revisit Help Us Grow Follow the podcast Leave a five-star review Share it with your network Stay curious. Stay salty. /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/40104830

Episode 129: Decarbonization That Actually Works; Founder Lessons with Gordana Ilic, PhD of BetterSea 02/03/2026

Episode 129: Decarbonization That Actually Works; Founder Lessons with Gordana Ilic, PhD of BetterSea Guest: — Co-Founder & Co-CEO, and host of Episode Overview: Gordana Ilic didn’t come up through shipping. Gordana’s path was through sustainability, entrepreneurship, corporate innovation, then into Maersk’s decarbonization work before returning to entrepreneurship. In this episode, we go beyond regulation talk and into what’s really happening in the market: how FuelEU is being received, why smaller owners moved faster than some of the giants, what pooling is changing culturally and commercially, and what founders learn the hard way about building in an industry that’s still adjusting to transparency. Key Points: From sustainability to shipping, by way of innovation: Gordana’s path from chemistry/PhD work to startup ecosystems, corporate innovation, and finally maritime decarbonization. Why she left Maersk to build again: Entrepreneurship as “nature,” not just opportunity and why ignoring that pull started affecting her health. BetterSea’s pivot: broad vision → sharp wedge: Starting with a wider decarbonization decision framework, then focusing on FuelEU to match market readiness and urgency. FuelEU early reactions were… real: From “EU ETS won’t happen” to skepticism in Singapore and the long road of educating the market before urgency hit. Surprise: smaller owners moved first: Faster decision cycles, direct access to leadership, and a willingness to act once risk/opportunity became clear (including strong early traction with Greek owners). The IMO pause shockwave: A market freeze, regrouping, and then clarity: regional regulations are the near-term reality and FuelEU isn’t going away. Pooling is working but it forces transparency: Deals, due diligence, KYC, and the reality that shipping companies aren’t always used to hearing “no” from their counterparties, now other shipping companies. Efficiency isn’t one silver bullet: Alternative fuels are straightforward in concept, but the bigger differentiator is execution speed, alignment, and how companies think portfolio-style over time. Founder advice that matters: Trust your gut, challenge norms politely, ask “why not,” and reach out to people early (LinkedIn is a cheat code when used well). Podcasting as a leadership tool: Why Gordana launched The Wavemakers Podcast, what she’s learned from conversations, and why creative projects often become personal “guide rails.” Learn More: Check out Gordana’s podcast The Wavemakers Podcast on and other streaming channels. Related listening: Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Support Our Podcast: If you found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to the newsletter for updates — and if you’re interested in advertising, reach out to my friends at . /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/39916385

Episode 128: Bridge to Boardroom: Class Society Reality, Tech Adoption, and the Ship–Shore Gap 01/20/2026

Episode 128: Bridge to Boardroom: Class Society Reality, Tech Adoption, and the Ship–Shore Gap Guest: , Global Market Leader, Commercial at Episode Overview: Capt. Ankur Arora has lived shipping from all sides. Years at sea, senior roles with shipowners, and now inside a leading class society. In this episode, he breaks down what changes when innovation stops being a slide deck and starts living onboard: design choices that affect daily work, the role of modeling and verification, how connectivity reshapes crew life, and why talent pipelines depend on telling the real story of seafaring. Key Points: Why he chose sea life (and what he learned fast): Early responsibility, rapid growth, and leadership lessons that carry forward well beyond the bridge. The reality of going shoreside: Transitioning ashore means starting over; steep learning curves, intense competition, and rebuilding credibility. Owner vs. class: different seat, same objective: Safe, compliant ships that stay on-hire and keep earning. Design decisions matter more than most admit: Seafarer input during design is limited, yet small operational details can drive safety and efficiency. Innovation vs. adoption: The tech landscape is crowded. Key to success is validation and operational fit matter more than trends. Connectivity as an enabler, not a threat: Normal life at sea now includes connectivity; culture and leadership determine whether it helps or harms. Vetting and inspections strengthened by digital tools: Technology improves preparation, risk visibility, and robustness all without cutting corners. Related listening: This is a complementary owner-operator perspective on crew engagement and decarbonization in practice. Tune in Now: Available on y, and Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Support Our Podcast: Please rate the show 5-stars, follow, and subscribe to the newsletter. Interested in advertising? Reach out to my friends at /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/39782895

Episode 127 — Starting 2026 with the Right Mindset with Akanksha Batura Pai PD 01/06/2026

Episode 126: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2025 with Evan Efstathiou 12/16/2025

Episode 126: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2025 with Evan Efstathiou Guest: , CEO of l and Founder of Episode Overview: For the fourth year in a row, Evan joins The Last Dinosaur to unpack the big storylines in maritime tech. From AI hype vs. reality and sector consolidation, to decarbonization, hardware innovation, and the next wave of corporate venture investing, this episode is your annual “state of the union” for digital shipping. Chris and Evan revisit last year’s predictions, look at what played out in 2025, and lay out what to watch closely in 2026. Key Points: AI Moves From Hype to “Show Me the Money”: AI has shifted from novelty add-on to table stakes. Vendors can’t just say “AI” anymore—customers want real productivity gains and measurable ROI, not marketing gimmicks. Roll-Ups, Acqui-Hires, and the Looming “Big Five” Question: 2025 saw continued M&A among larger players and classic roll-ups plus AI acqui-hires. Evan talks about Kpler, Marcura, Sedna and others—and what it might look like if some of the “big five” platform players eventually combine. Decarbonization Tech Is Here to Stay (Even If Policy Pauses): Despite IMO’s slower tempo, tools for ETS, FuelEU and emissions accounting are now baked into contracts and day-to-day operations. Tech and digital remain the “low-hanging fruit” for compliance, risk reduction, and cost savings. VC & Corporate Venture Capital Double Down on Maritime: Dedicated maritime funds and shipowner-backed CVC arms are becoming core capital sources for seed and early-stage innovation, especially where AI, optimization and decarb intersect. Hardware + Software Stacks Gain Momentum: From robotic hull cleaning to onboard sensor platforms and wind-assisted propulsion, Evan highlights how digital twins and AI-enhanced analytics are making hardware projects more bankable and easier to scale across fleets. The Future of Work: Smaller Teams, Bigger Tools: Claims departments, chartering desks, and brokers aren’t going away—but their toolkits are changing. The real future is smaller, highly experienced teams amplified by AI, not full automation replacing human judgment and relationships. 2026: The Year of the AI Shakeout: With spending at “epic levels” for AI - boards, investors, and customers will all be asking the same thing: did it pay off? Evan predicts 2026 will be a defining year where resilient, commercially viable AI products pull ahead and weaker offerings fall away. Learn More: If you enjoy this episode, go back to our earlier Year in Review with Evan: Episode 94 – “Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2024 with Evan Efstathiou” Tune in Now: Available on , , , and all major platforms. Music by: Peg and The Rejected – “King of SKA” Artwork by: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please: Follow the show and rate us ★★★★★ Share the episode with a colleague or friend Support via if you’d like to help keep the pod going 💼 Advertising: If you would like to advertise with us, please contact /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/39394615

Episode 125: Leveling the Playing Field in Global Trade with Carmit Glik of Ship4wd 12/02/2025

Episode 125: Leveling the Playing Field in Global Trade with Carmit Glik of Ship4wd Episode 125: Leveling the Playing Field in Global Trade with Carmit Glik of Ship4wd Guest: CEO, Episode Overview: Global trade isn’t just mega-shippers and Fortune 500s. It’s thousands of small and mid-sized businesses trying to move a single container without getting crushed by complexity. In this episode, Carmit Glik, CEO of Ship4wd, explains how her team is building a digital-first freight solution that combines technology and human support to give underdogs a fair shot in international logistics. Key Points: Why SMBs Are the Real Backbone of Trade How small and mid-sized businesses make up the majority of economic activity—and why they’re often ignored by traditional logistics providers. Trust After Turbulence What COVID, the Red Sea disruptions, and shifting tariffs have done to SMB confidence—and why “too good to be true” is the default reaction to new services. Digital-First, Human-Backed How Ship4wd blends self-service booking, tariff calculators, and shipment tracking with real people on call when things go sideways. Knowledge as an Antidote to Chaos Why transparency on duties, tariffs, and total landed costs is now non-negotiable for business owners making tight-margin decisions. From VC to Founder: Lessons for Maritime/Logistics Startups Carmit’s path from maritime VC to operator, what’s changed in the startup ecosystem since 2018, and her advice for founders who want to solve real problems in freight. Sponsored by Accelleron This episode is brought to you by and the LOREKA360° Emissions Desk—one partner, one process, and complete confidence in your compliance. Learn more at accelleron.com/emissions-desk. If you’d like to discuss sponsoring The Last Dinosaur, please get in touch with Tune in Now: Listen to Episode 125 on or your favorite podcast platform. /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/39187030

Episode 124: Connecting Ships with Local Experts: Manos Koukouvios, COO, Vsltec 11/25/2025

Episode 123: Digital Pay at Sea: Crew Wages, Compliance, and Cashless Ships with Stuart Ostrow of ShipMoney 11/18/2025

Episode 122: Why Maritime Needs a Data Utility, Not Another App – Ari Marjamaa, Raa Labs 10/28/2025

Episode 121: From Excel to Foresight: Ingrid Kylstad on Building Resilient, Low-Carbon Supply Chains 10/21/2025

Episode 121: From Excel to Foresight: Ingrid Kylstad on Building Resilient, Low-Carbon Supply Chains From Excel to Foresight: Ingrid Kylstad on Building Resilient, Low-Carbon Supply Chains Guest: , Managing Director, Episode Overview: Ingrid Kylstad joins Chris to unpack how Klaveness Digital’s helps industrial shippers shift from day-to-day firefighting to foresight-driven planning. They dive into digital twins for the seaborne supply chain, AI-enabled scenario modeling, change management in B2B software, and what it will take to build resilient, decarbonized, and cost-effective supply chains. As part of our Challenge series, this conversation spotlights practical innovation that sticks. The Last Dinosaur is the official podcast of the Captain’s Table Challenge Key Points: Ingrid’s path into maritime: From EU regulatory affairs to the Norwegian Shipowners’ Association to leading at Klaveness Digital—why diverse backgrounds strengthen shipping. CargoValue explained: A SaaS “digital twin” that gives real-time shipment/inventory visibility, optimizes schedules, reduces stock-outs and demurrage, and enables global, real-time collaboration. From reactive to proactive: Why foresight, scenario planning, and “what-if” modeling beat spreadsheet firefighting. Change management is the product: Champions, early wins, and dedicated customer success are essential—Excel is the status-quo competitor. AI & automation: Co-pilots and automated workflows are moving from hype to table stakes; scenario modeling now far more attainable. Open ecosystems & APIs: Sophisticated buyers demand data portability and integrations; vendors must play nicely in diversified tech stacks. Decarbonization momentum: Less hype, more implementation—Scope 3 rigor is rising among large industrials; owners that serve them need credible data and tools. Learn More: Related episode: : Evidence-based ROI for digital platforms and closing the innovation gap for small/mid-size owners. Sponsor: This episode is sponsored by helping operators monitor, manage, and optimize emissions decisions. Learn more: accelleron.com/digital-solutions/emissions-desk Tune in Now: Available on , and . Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐, follow, and share. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates—and consider supporting us on . Your support truly makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/38570570

Episode 120: From F1 to Wind Wings: John Cooper on Data-Driven Decarbonization 10/07/2025

Episode 119: Project-Led Growth, Practical Decarbonization & Startup Bridges with Tabitha Logan 09/23/2025

Episode 118: Driving Strategy and Scaling Maritime Tech with Aleksander Askeland of Manta Marine Technologies 09/16/2025

Episode 118: Driving Strategy and Scaling Maritime Tech with Aleksander Askeland of Manta Marine Technologies Episode 118: Driving Strategy and Scaling Maritime Tech with of Guest: Aleksander Askeland, Chief Financial Officer, Manta Marine Technologies Episode Overview: Aleksander Askeland’s career journey has taken him from the Arctic coal trade to leading strategy and finance at Manta Marine Technologies, one of the most forward-looking players in maritime decarbonization. In this conversation, we dive into the CFO’s role as a strategic driver, the realities of scaling tech in shipping, and why digitalization and emissions compliance must go hand in hand. Key Points: From Svalbard to Shipping: How a coal export operation in the Arctic introduced Aleksander to shipping’s complexity and sparked his passion. The Yara Years: Why Yara’s pivot from scrubbers to a broader tech portfolio laid the groundwork for Manta’s evolution. CFO as Strategist: Moving beyond balance sheets and towards how finance leadership shapes market positioning, acquisitions, and tech bets. Change Management at Sea: Why crew adoption is central to decarbonization technologies and how to avoid disrupting daily workflows. Acquisition by Okapi Supply Trading SA: How independence from Yara is making Manta more agile in responding to market and regulatory pressures. Scaling Beyond Pilots: Overcoming the challenge of moving shipowners from 1–2 trial vessels to fleet-wide adoption. Investor Attention: Where maritime tech is in the “football match” of investment and why maritime-focused VCs are changing the game. Learn More: Listen to my conversation with Scott Bergeron, Head of Fleet Management at Oldendorff Carriers, on scaling maritime operations [Episode 82]. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Head cook and bottle washer: Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Proudly sponsored by: – the premier global pitch competition for maritime and logistics startups – North America’s premier technology & innovation forum for shipping – where the world’s maritime leaders meet Curious about adverstising with us? Get in touch with the team at /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/38213485

Episode 117: Steering Shipping’s Future – Sustainability & Energy Transition at Swire 09/09/2025

Episode 117: Steering Shipping’s Future – Sustainability & Energy Transition at Swire Episode 117: Steering Shipping’s Future – Sustainability & Energy Transition at Swire Guest: , Chief Sustainability & Energy Transition Officer, & Episode Overview: In this episode, part of The Last Dinosaur’s partnership with the , I sit down with Susana Germino to explore how one of the world’s oldest shipping companies is tackling the energy transition. From her personal journey — starting in coal transport and now leading sustainability — to Swire’s ambitious targets and pragmatic approach, Susana shares how legacy, innovation, and data come together in the drive toward decarbonization. The Last Dinosaur is also proud to be a media partner for and . Key Points: From Coal to Clean: Susana’s transition from managing coal transport in Indonesia to spearheading Swire’s sustainability and energy transition strategy. Sustainability as a License to Operate: How Swire shifted from “nice-to-have” to embedding sustainability at the core of operations. Targets & Roadmap: Net zero by 2050, 50% reductions by 2030, and near-term wins from biofuels and efficiency programs. Innovation & Experimentation: Why budgeting for failure is essential to real progress in maritime decarbonization. Just-in-Time Shipping: The potential fuel savings — and why ports and terminals are the missing link. Future Fuels & Training Gaps: The reality of infrastructure, seafarer training, and readiness for ammonia, methanol, and bio-LNG. Data & AI: From rudimentary collection to advanced voyage optimization, why AI is only as strong as the strategy it supports. Learn More: Episode 84: Innovation and Collaboration in the Maritime Industry with Vishal Khattri Episode 111: Cybersecurity at Sea with Dr. Gary Kessler Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If this episode sparked new ideas, please rate us 5-stars and follow on your favorite platform. Share with a colleague, subscribe to our newsletter, or support us on /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/38113320

Episode 116: Digitizing the Forgotten Majority: Small Shipowners & Big Impact with Joy Basu 08/26/2025

Episode 116: Digitizing the Forgotten Majority: Small Shipowners & Big Impact with Joy Basu Digitizing the Forgotten Majority: Small Shipowners & Big Impact with Joy Basu Guest: , CEO of Episode Overview: In this episode, Chris Aversano speaks with Joy Basu, CEO of Singapore-based Smart Ship Hub, about how small and mid-sized shipowners, often overlooked in the innovation conversation are finding measurable value in digital platforms. Joy shares how Smart Ship Hub delivers real-world results like faster trade settlements, reduced manual reporting, and better compliance. The conversation also explores bridging the digital maturity gap, creating proof through case studies, and what maritime can learn from avionics and other high-data sectors. Key Points: · The 60% Overlooked: Small and medium shipowners make up the majority of the market, yet most innovation headlines focus on the largest players. · ROI-First Mentality: These owners care about one thing the bottom-line impact. Smart Ship Hub’s adoption often starts with two ships and grows quickly based on proven savings. · Reducing Settlement Time: Joy shares a real-world example of slashing trade settlements from 30–45 days to 1–2 days using unified data. · Efficiency Gains That Matter: From emissions reporting to compliance, platforms can save hundreds of hours. This equates to 2–4 man-months per fleet. · Breaking Through Legacy Mindsets: Many smaller owners still operate with outdated tools. Case studies and clear KPIs are the only way to shift that mindset. · The Aviation Parallel: Companies with avionics-grade digital maturity are entering maritime and bringing with them scalable, connected infrastructure. · Don’t Sell, Show: Demonstration, not persuasion, is how Smart Ship Hub gets buy-in from skeptical users. · The Democratization of Data: The future belongs to those who can process and share data, not hoard it. Learn More: 🎧 Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: 💬 Like what you hear? Please rate the show 5 stars, follow, and share with your network. It really helps spread the word. ☕ Support the show: Buy Me a Coffee. Your support helps keep us going strong. 🌊 Proud media sponsor of London International Shipping Week 2025, The Captain's Table Challenge, and SHIPPINGInsight. /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/37921090

Episode 115: Salvage, Safety, and the Future of Emergency Response with Joseph Farrell III, CEO, Resolve Marine 08/12/2025

Episode 115: Salvage, Safety, and the Future of Emergency Response with Joseph Farrell III, CEO, Resolve Marine Episode 115: Salvage, Safety, and the Future of Emergency Response Guest: Joseph Farrell III, CEO, Episode Overview: In this episode, Chris speaks with Joseph Farrell III, CEO of Resolve Marine, about the evolving world of maritime salvage and emergency response. From the Deepwater Horizon to the recent Dali bridge response in Baltimore, Joe shares stories that show how Resolve navigates complexity, risk, and regulatory evolution. He also discusses the growing impact of digital tools, AI, and alternative fuels like ammonia and hydrogen on safety preparedness and training. Key Points: · The Evolution of Salvage: Joe reflects on Resolve’s 40-year journey from a small Caribbean operation to a global leader in emergency marine response. · Defining Moments: Milestones like the Exxon Valdez legislation and Deepwater Horizon shaped not only Resolve’s growth but also the regulatory landscape of salvage and oil spill response. · Rise of Alternative Fuels and Risks: The push for ammonia, LNG, hydrogen, and even nuclear fuels is forcing salvors to rethink emergency preparedness—despite little incentive or regulatory support. · Using AI and Data Smartly: Joe details how Resolve uses point cloud data, AIS tracking, and LLMs to improve decision-making, while emphasizing the limits of data in high-variability scenarios like salvage ops. · Dali Bridge Response & Social Media Pressure: Joe talks about managing public perception, drone surveillance, and misinformed critiques during the high-profile Dali bridge incident. · Crew Training and Talent Shortages: With U.S. mariner pipelines shrinking, Resolve is investing in long-term training to build the next generation of salvage experts from the ground up. · Leadership, Growth, and Communication: Joe shares his philosophy on sustainable growth and clarity in leadership. Learn More: Listen to: re. Tune in Now: 🎧 | ▶️ Watch the full episode on Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Artwork By: GA Design Produced by: Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars ⭐ and follow. Share it with a colleague or friend. Want to support the show? /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/37752705

Episode 114: Empowering Seafarers with Josephine Le, Founder of The Hood 08/05/2025

Episode 114: Empowering Seafarers with Josephine Le, Founder of The Hood Episode Title: Empowering Seafarers: Building Trust and Connection in Maritime with Josephine Le of The Hood Guest: , Founder of Episode Overview: In this powerful and human-centered conversation, Josephine Le, founder of The Hood, shares her journey from crewing superintendent to tech founder. The Hood is a digital platform reshaping how seafarers connect, build careers, and find trusted resources in a fragmented maritime industry. We unpack the origins of her idea, the mental health crisis at sea, and why digital connection and transparency must be a top priority across the global shipping workforce. Key Points: The Birth of The Hood: Josephine shares how the COVID-19 pandemic exposed deep flaws in crew change logistics and inspired her to build a platform rooted in empathy and real-world challenges. Not Just LinkedIn for Seafarers: The Hood isn't a corporate social network—it’s designed for the most inexperienced maritime workers, offering safer access to jobs, community, and resources. Smart Tools for a Safer Industry: Features like auto-CV generation, live document sharing, recruiter transparency, and candidate-controlled access are changing the game for job seekers and crewing teams alike. Fighting Fraud and Exploitation: The Hood only works with certified manning agencies and empowers users to report scams and misconduct—bringing accountability where it’s desperately needed. Mental Health and Support: Josephine discusses The Hood’s "We Care" section and partnerships with organizations like ISWAN and Sailors’ Society to support vulnerable workers. AI with Caution: Josephine explains why The Hood hasn’t rushed into AI, preferring to build something meaningful and data-backed over gimmicks. Books at 35,000 Feet: A lover of founder biographies, Josephine shares her current favorite—Man of This Land, about the rise of Hyundai’s shipbuilding empire. Learn More: Check out Episode 109 with Pam Kern on maritime mental health, and Episode 80 with Carl King on seafarer welfare and advocacy. Tune in Now: Available on | | Watch on Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If this episode moved you, follow, rate us 5 stars, share with your network, or support us via . Your support helps keep these important stories coming. The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media partner of: 🚢 The Captain’s Table 📆 London International Shipping Week 2025 🌐 SHIPPINGInsight /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/37626495

Episode 113: Extending Ship Life & Decarbonization with Tom Lister, CEO of Global Ship Lease 07/29/2025

Episode 113: Extending Ship Life & Decarbonization with Tom Lister, CEO of Global Ship Lease 🎙️ The Last Dinosaur – Episode 113 Extending Ship Life, Decarbonization & Data with Tom Lister of Global Ship Lease Guest: , CEO, Episode Overview: Under Tom’s leadership, Global Ship Lease has grown into one of the world’s largest container tonnage providers while navigating the shifting seas of decarbonization, digitalization, and geopolitical disruption. In this episode, Tom explains how GSL extends the operational life of ships, collaborates with major charterers like Maersk, and leverages data and IoT to drive efficiency while keeping seafarer welfare at the core. Key Points: Owner, Operator, or Provider? Tom demystifies how GSL operates as a tonnage provider, using the airline analogy to clarify owner-operator differences for newcomers and veterans alike. Four Pillars of Decarbonization: From physical retrofits to biofuels, IoT data capture, and speculative investments in carbon capture, Tom outlines GSL’s balanced, collaborative approach to meeting emissions targets while keeping flexibility. Why Data Matters: GSL’s entire fleet is IoT-enabled with expanded Starlink bandwidth, enhancing both operational insight and crew welfare—critical for futureproofing in a fast-changing industry. Small Bets, Big Impact: Tom shares why GSL invests in maritime tech startups like Aqualung, highlighting the need for ‘smart money’ to drive practical innovation without locking into a single fuel pathway. Seafarer Welfare & Talent Pipeline: The conversation highlights the seafarer shortage as a top industry concern, resonating with discussions from our episode with Scott Bergeron on the future of crewing and maritime resilience. Adapting to Uncertainty: Tom reflects on how mid-size and smaller containerships provide optionality amid geopolitical shifts, emphasizing patience, discipline, and nimbleness as timeless maritime virtues. Leadership & Legacy: On a personal note, Tom shares what keeps him up at night—hint: it’s not the business—and what he’s reading, including Ninety Percent of Everything and James. Related Listening: The maritime industry is at a crossroads of tradition and innovation. With leaders like Scott Bergeron at the helm, there's hope for a future where technology and sustainability go hand in hand. Why You Should Listen “Shipping’s been around for millennia, and it will reshape itself to whatever the future needs. We see our role as staying flexible and ready for that.” – Tom Lister Whether you’re new to shipping or a seasoned professional, Tom’s perspective will help you understand the container sector’s real challenges, the collaborative push for decarbonization, and why data is the key to staying relevant. 🎧 Tune in Now: Listen on , , or watch on . 🚢 Help Us Grow: If you find value in these conversations, please: ✅ Rate us 5-stars ✅ Follow & share with your network ✅ Support via Your support keeps The Last Dinosaur going! Stay curious, stay salty, Chris /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/37512610

Episode 112: Balancing Tradition & Innovation – Kenji Togasaki of IINO Lines 07/15/2025

Episode 112: Balancing Tradition & Innovation – Kenji Togasaki of IINO Lines Embracing Innovation While Honoring Tradition: Kenji Togasaki of IINO Lines Guest: , Senior Vice President at Episode Overview: Chris speaks with Kenji Togasaki about how IINO Lines—a storied, publicly traded Japanese shipping company—balances operational excellence with forward-looking innovation. They explore IINO’s venture investments, focus on digitalization, decarbonization, and the promise of autonomous shipping while navigating the realities of a legacy shipping environment. Key Points: Kenji’s Maritime Journey: From chemical tanker chartering across Asia and the US to CPA-backed strategy roles, Kenji shares his pathway to leading IINO’s innovation initiatives. COVID Spark to Innovation: How IINO began structured innovation during COVID, moving the company’s mindset toward technology adoption. Investing to Learn: IINO’s strategy of investing in TMV (US), The Dock (Israel), and Motion Ventures (Singapore) to map the maritime startup landscape before moving to direct investments. Focus on Decarbonization, Autonomy, Digitalization: Why these areas are critical for long-term compliance and competitiveness. The Importance of Hardware: Why emissions reductions require physical technologies like wind propulsion alongside digital tools. Collaboration Across the Industry: How collaboration with charters, peers, and startups drives meaningful change. Building Internal Digital Literacy: Using internal newsletters and digital tools to raise innovation literacy within IINO’s conservative culture. Learn More: For more on how data-driven strategies are transforming maritime operations, revisit . 🎧 Listen Now: 🔹 🔹 🔹 Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Artwork by: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you find value in these conversations, please rate us 5-stars, follow, and share with a colleague. You can also support The Last Dinosaur on to help us continue bringing you top maritime leaders. We are proud to be a media sponsor of . /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/37388370

🎙️ Episode 111: Cyber Threats on the High Seas, a Conversation with Dr. Gary Kessler 07/01/2025

Episode 110: Rebuilding Shipbuilding – Remote Work, Training & the Future of U.S. Yards with TotalTek Jason Lloyd 06/17/2025

Episode 110: Rebuilding Shipbuilding – Remote Work, Training & the Future of U.S. Yards with TotalTek Jason Lloyd Episode 110: Rebuilding Shipbuilding – Remote Work, Training & the Future of U.S. Yards Guest: Senior Executive at Episode Overview: Jason Lloyd brings over three decades of leadership experience, forged in the U.S. Navy’s nuclear power program, to the conversation on reviving America’s shipbuilding capabilities. In this episode, he explores how TotalTek is pioneering remote workforce models in ship design and engineering, tackling the shipyard talent gap, and creating pathways for the next generation of maritime professionals. From welding lessons of WWII to the promise of the , this is a forward-looking take on a critical national issue. Key Points: A Historical Wake-Up Call: The U.S. went from building 5,000 ships in WWII to just 12 per year today—Jason breaks down the policy decisions that led to this decline and what must change. Remote Work in Ship Design: TotalTek has embraced a distributed engineering model, proving that with the right values, remote work can unlock a new, untapped labor pool across the country. Training the Next Generation: TotalTech’s partnership with Gulf Coast Community College helps new designers gain practical experience, breaking the “3 years of experience for an entry-level job” paradox. Bridging the Industrial Gap: Rebuilding capacity isn't just about welders—America is also facing a critical shortage of ship designers and engineers. Remote work and targeted training are part of the solution. The SHIPS Act – Hope on the Horizon: With bipartisan support and a focus on both infrastructure and workforce development, this proposed legislation could reshape U.S. maritime capabilities. New Collar Work, New Thinking: Additive manufacturing, cold spray, and other advanced techniques may be key to scaling up shipbuilding—if the U.S. embraces risk and innovation. From Skeptic to Believer: Jason candidly shares how he once doubted remote work—until he realized that getting the best people in the right roles matters more than where they sit. Learn More: Check out for a broader look at how innovation intersects with workforce trends in shipping. Tune in Now: Available on , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/37014365

Episode 109: Mental Health at Sea – A Real Talk with Pam Kern 06/03/2025

Episode 109: Mental Health at Sea – A Real Talk with Pam Kern Episode 109: Mental Health at Sea – A Real Talk with Pam Kern Guest: , MSLCSW, Director of Maritime Mental Health Services, Episode Overview: In this powerful episode, sits down with Pam Kern, a former cruise ship officer turned licensed clinical social worker, to explore the often unspoken realities of mental health at sea. Pam brings deep insight from both her 18 years aboard cruise ships and her current role supporting seafarers through Port Medical Management. From the psychological toll of constant connectivity to the role of leadership in shaping onboard culture, this episode dives into what it really means to stay well in today’s maritime world. Key Points: Life Aboard Cruise Ships: Pam reflects on her 18 years managing front-of-house operations on cruise ships, sharing lessons about human behavior, culture, and burnout. A Shift Toward Mental Health: Her journey from crew member to clinician and her “aha” moment in supporting crew well-being. Crew Isolation & Mental Load: How cruise and cargo environments differ—and what unites them in terms of seafarer mental health. The Double-Edged Sword of Connectivity: Why better internet access can help—and hurt—crew well-being without proper support strategies. Cultural Stigma and the Need for Change: Why “good enough” mental health care isn’t good enough, and the dangers of checking the box. Toxic Leadership and Its Ripple Effects: Pam highlights the impact of onboard leadership culture and the need for emotional temperature checks. Mental Health Meets Maritime Tech: From co-intelligence to platform overload—how digital transformation affects psychological resilience at sea. Learn More: Check out . Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on Music by: Peg and The Rejected “King of SKA” Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: 💬 Like what you hear? Please rate the show 5 stars, follow, and share with your network. ☕ Support the show: 🌊 Proud media sponsor of /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/36796920

Episode 108: Wireless Safety and Real-Time Crew Monitoring with Sven Brooks of ScanReach 05/20/2025

Episode 108: Wireless Safety and Real-Time Crew Monitoring with Sven Brooks of ScanReach Episode 108: Wireless Safety and Real-Time Crew Monitoring with Sven Brooks of ScanReach Guest: , CEO of Episode Overview: Sven Brooks of ScanReach joins The Last Dinosaur to discuss how wireless mesh networks and wearables are transforming safety and connectivity at sea. From tracking crew locations in real time to enabling fast emergency response and even helping address harassment, this episode explores how digital innovation can empower seafarers, not burden them. Key Points: Purpose-Built Mesh Network: ScanReach has developed a wireless system made specifically for steel ship environments, solving a major connectivity challenge. Real-Time Crew Location: Wearables allow for instant crew mustering and emergency tracking AND boosting safety without infringing on privacy. Safety, Not Surveillance: GDPR compliant design and clear boundaries (like no cabin tracking) ensure transparency and trust. Unexpected Benefits: The system has helped in real-world incidents, including injuries and harassment, even though it wasn’t originally built for that. Gamified Fuel Awareness: Just like eco-driving, crew members who see fuel consumption in real time are naturally incentivized to improve. Industrial IoT at Sea: ScanReach uses off-the-shelf BLE sensors to enhance monitoring—from confined space entry to vibration and humidity data. ‘Halftime’ in Maritime Digitalization: Sven believes we’re in the second phase of maritime tech, one that’s more open, modular, and collaborative. Learn More: 🎧 🛳 Tune in Now: Available on , , and Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/36585880

Episode 107: Driving Innovation at Sea – A Conversation with Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping 05/13/2025

Episode 107: Driving Innovation at Sea – A Conversation with Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping Episode 107: Driving Innovation at Sea – A Conversation with Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping Guest: Director of Innovation, Episode Overview: In this episode, Garry Noonan of Ardmore Shipping shares how a legacy tanker company can still lead in digital innovation. From practical applications of onboard tech to fostering a culture of experimentation, Garry explains what it means to modernize responsibly in a highly regulated, performance-driven sector. Key Points: Innovation in the Tanker Sector: Garry discusses the challenges and opportunities of driving innovation in a traditional, asset-heavy environment like Ardmore. From Seafarer to Strategist: Garry’s career journey from working at sea to leading innovation, shapes how he bridges technology and real-world operations. Digitalizing with Purpose: Innovation isn’t about chasing trends. Garry emphasizes practical, scalable solutions that improve safety, efficiency, and compliance. Crew Engagement Matters: No tech rollout succeeds without the support of seafarers. Garry shares how Ardmore ensures buy-in from those onboard. Partnerships and Ecosystems: Collaboration with startups and tech partners helps Ardmore stay agile and informed on emerging trends. Looking Ahead: From alternative fuels to real-time data use, Garry paints a picture of how tankers are transforming. Lessons from the Frontline: Insights from testing tools like digital twins and crew safety wearables. Learn More: If this episode resonated with you, check out on the future of seafarers and sustainability, and E on innovation partnerships. Tune in Now: Available on , and more! Watch the episode on Music by: Peg and The Rejected "King of SKA" Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! 🌊 /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/36514090

Episode 106: The Evolving Role of Freight Trading in a Digital World 04/29/2025

Episode 105: Decarbonization Meets Digital - zero44’s Vision for Maritime Compliance 04/22/2025

Episode 105: Decarbonization Meets Digital - zero44’s Vision for Maritime Compliance Episode 105: Decarbonization Meets Digital - zero44’s Vision for Maritime Compliance Guest: , Co-founder & Managing Director, Episode Overview: In this episode, we sit down with Friederike Hesse, Co-founder and Managing Director of zero44, a Berlin-based startup helping the maritime industry navigate decarbonization through smart digital tools. From FuelEU Maritime to commercial strategy and pooling, Friederike breaks down how zero44 is giving operators a way to not only comply—but thrive. Key Points: The FuelEU Maritime Effect: How upcoming EU regulations are shaping behavior in chartering and operations. From Vision to Product: The founding of zero44 and why decarbonization isn’t just about emissions—it’s about economics. Pooling and Compliance: Why zero44 built tooling to handle pooling mechanics and its impact on chartering relationships. Making Decarbonization Commercial: Friederike explains how compliance tools can drive smarter commercial decisions. Challenges of Change: The biggest barriers to tech adoption in a fragmented, global industry. Berlin Meets Maritime: The unique energy of Germany’s startup scene and how it’s influencing maritime innovation. Partnerships that Matter: How relationships—with customers, class societies, and fellow startups—are key to creating traction. Learn More: → For another look at decarbonization, check out → For a big-picture look at how digitalization and decarbonization intersect, listen to Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on . Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano 🔗 Support Our Podcast: If you found value in this episode, rate us 5-stars and follow! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Interested in sponsorships? Let’s talk! 📢 Special Mention: The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor of /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/36215740

Episode 104: From Satellites to Shipping – Terminal Innovation with Paul Albert-Lebrun 04/08/2025

Episode 103: Sustainability, Resilience & the Future of Ports with Dr. Beatriz Canamary 03/25/2025

Episode 103: Sustainability, Resilience & the Future of Ports with Dr. Beatriz Canamary Episode 103: Sustainability, Resilience & the Future of Ports with Dr. Beatriz Canamary Guest: Founder & CEO of , Professor at Florida Polytechnic University Episode Overview: In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Beatriz Canamary, a leader at the intersection of sustainability and logistics. As the founder of SuRe Strategy and a professor at Florida Polytechnic University, Dr. Canamary brings a unique perspective on integrating sustainability into port operations, supply chains, and maritime infrastructure. We discuss her career journey, the evolving role of ports in decarbonization, and the challenges of navigating shifting policies while maintaining a sustainable and resilient maritime industry. Key Points: The Role of Ports in Maritime Decarbonization: Dr. Canamary explains why ports sit at the crossroads of the green transition, influencing fuel supply, shipbuilding, and operational strategies. Scope 3 Emissions & Why They Matter: Understanding how ports measure and report emissions beyond their direct operations—and how collaboration is key. Green Corridors & Industry Collaboration: Examining how initiatives like the LA-Shanghai green shipping corridor drive decarbonization and why data-sharing remains a challenge. ZEMBA – The Zero Emissions Maritime Buyers Alliance: An industry-led initiative where cargo owners and shipping companies partner to accelerate decarbonization. Navigating Policy Uncertainty in Maritime: Insights into how shifting regulations and trade policies impact long-term sustainability strategies. Attracting the Next Generation to Maritime Careers: Dr. Canamary shares her perspective on engaging Gen Z talent and her new initiative, Link Gen Z, a learning platform for sustainability and maritime education. Beyond ports: Dr Canamary is contributing to a book called ‘Sustainability in the Cruise Industry’ and working on her own book: "Maritime Ports of Tomorrow: Navigating Resilience and Sustainability in Global Supply Chains" Recommended Reads: Dr. Canamary shares her current reading list, including Maritime Decarbonization, The Port of the Future, and Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order by Ray Dalio. Learn More: Check out Episode 92: Port Miami’s Vision for the Future with Christopher Hudtwalcker. Tune in Now: Available on , , and more! Watch the episode on 🎵 Music by: Peg and The Rejected King of SKA 🎨 Artwork By: GA Design 🎙️ Produced by: Chris Aversano 🔗 Support Our Podcast: If you found value in this episode, rate us 5-stars and follow! Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Interested in sponsorships? Let’s talk! You can also buy me a coffee! 📢 Special Mention: The Last Dinosaur is proud to be a media sponsor of /episode/index/show/c524a237-0583-40dd-9ad3-e99f64f964e4/id/35819510

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