674 | Alaska Grand Slam with George Krumm - Fish Alaska Magazine, Togiak River Lodge, Chinook Salmon
Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast
Release Date: 11/01/2024
Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast
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Presented By: Togiak River Lodge
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George Krumm, editor of Fish Alaska Magazine and all-around fishy dude, is going to share his experience on Alaska grand slam catching all five salmon species in the same day on a recent trip to the Togiak River.
You're going to find out which technique he used to make it happen; where some of the other great trips are around Alaska and things you should be thinking about; and what he thinks is the best thing to help turn around the Chinook decline for the Pacific rim. Plus you're gonna found out how you can plan your Alaska trip easily with a resource at Fish Alaska Magazine.
Episode Chapters with George Krumm on Alaska Grand Slam
3:06 - George began his journey into fly fishing when he was about seven years old. His dad gave him a small vice and showed him how to tie flies. The very first fly he tied was a gray hackle peacock. George became truly passionate about fly fishing when he started catching fish with the flies he had tied himself.
5:08 - He shares a bit about how he began his career at Fish Alaska. Melissa Norris and his brother, Marcus, founded both Fish Alaska and Hunt Alaska magazines. For Fish Alaska, George primarily writes about fly fishing. Additionally, they have a "Fly of the Month" column, which is sponsored by Mossy's Fly Shop.
8:12 - George first connected with the Larsen brothers, who own the Togiak River Lodge, during his visit in 2022. His goal was to explore Chinook fishing and write a story about it. Unfortunately, the trip wasn't very successful due to poor water and weather conditions. Despite this, George believes that the Togiak River is a standout location for Chinook fly fishing, as it still boasts strong runs of fish in various sizes.
11:48 - George visited the lodge in mid-August this year, aiming to catch coho salmon on a fly. He successfully caught all five species of Pacific salmon—Chinook, coho, sockeye, chum, and pink salmon—in a single day on a fly rod. His cousin Tom achieved this feat twice in one week.
13:39 - He describes their success, noting that on an average day, he and Tom caught over 75 salmon of various species. Although their main goal was silvers, they caught multiple types of salmon, with the King salmon being the most challenging to catch at that time of year. Interestingly, they managed to achieve a "grand slam" of catching various salmon species by accident.
15:40 - We discuss sockeye salmon, which are less talked about in freshwater fishing. George mentions significant runs in areas like Naknek and Kenai. Sockeye are valued for their red meat and while they usually feed on plankton in the ocean, they can become territorial and bite more when in large groups.
For Chum salmon George mentions that they are strong fighters, often leading to broken rods, though they might not look impressive. Pink salmon are smaller and change color quickly, causing them to be underrated, but fresh pinks are tasty, similar to trout.
20:31 - George enjoys the methodical aspect of spey casting, especially for winter steelhead, where catching even one fish is rewarding. He contrasts this with the excitement of fishing in the Togiak River, where large fish are caught more frequently.
26:47 - George highlights the Togiak River Lodge's multiple packages for anglers. He also notes an important change in their policy: during the first few weeks of the fishing season, the lodge will limit the number of anglers from 24 to 14. This adjustment is aimed at providing a better experience for those specifically interested in fishing for King salmon.
27:34 - We dig into the evolving perspectives on fishing practices in Alaska, emphasizing a shift away from the traditional "whack them and stack them" mentality towards more sustainable approaches. George highlights the importance of targeting abundant fish species such as sockeye, pink, and coho salmon, while questioning the necessity of taking large quantities of fish home.
Our conversation highlights the need for anglers to adapt to changing times and prioritize sustainable practices. While Alaska has been perceived as having unlimited fish supplies, current trends suggest a need for caution and conservation.
33:36 -We discuss the current state of fly fishing and the associated challenges in different regions, including Alaska and the Skeena system. Fishing restrictions, such as closures on Chinook fishing, are not only happening in Alaska but in other areas as well.
38:50 - George recounts spending extensive time fishing on the Kenai River and now frequently visits the Naknek River for its excellent rainbow trout fishing opportunities. He also highlights the overlooked potential of stillwater fishing around Anchorage and the Kenai Peninsula. He notes that many lakes in Alaska are stocked with fish and, unlike in the lower 48 states, they are not heavily fished. This means that these lakes often contain multiple age classes of fish, some reaching up to 30 inches long.
43:53 - The Fish Alaska website provides a free trip planning service. This service allows users to input information, after which they receive details and recommendations about where to go. George explains that the service typically recommends lodges or outfitters in the area of the user's intended destination. Additionally, when users submit their information, it is shared with these recommended operations, who may also contact the users to offer further assistance.
44:40 - George addresses the challenges facing the Chinook salmon fishery, particularly the commercial troll fishery in Southeast Alaska. A significant issue is that the fish caught are often not native to Alaska, and the average size of Chinook salmon along the west coast is decreasing. This size reduction is attributed to the fish being more vulnerable to overfishing in the ocean before they can return to spawn.
He suggests that Chinook salmon management should be coordinated along the entire west coast, acknowledging their migratory and feeding patterns rather than being limited by political boundaries.
49:08 - George also expresses concern about the potential decline of Coho salmon in South Central Alaska, noting low returns in areas like Anchorage and Homer. He speculates that if Coho face decline, it might not be due to trawl fisheries but rather the impact of pink salmon hatchery operations.
53:43 - George clarifies the difference between trawl and troll fishing, emphasizing the impact of the former on marine environments and fish populations.
56:44 - He describes the experience of visiting the Togiak River Lodge, detailing the journey and accommodations. He also highlights the excellent food they have in the lodge.
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/674