Episode 94: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2024 with Evan Efstathiou
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Release Date: 12/23/2024
Episode 135: Beyond Compliance – The Reality of Seafarer Wellbeing with Meei Wong
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Episode Overview: A conversation that challenges how the industry defines “wellbeing.” Founder and CEO of , breaks down why compliance-driven metrics miss the real picture onboard—and why trust, culture, and incentives are the real barriers to improving life at sea. Timestamps: 00:05 – Introduction and Meei’s journey into seafarer welfare 02:23 – A broken system: industry value vs reliance on charities 05:20 – What wellbeing actually looks like onboard vs compliance metrics 10:36 – Why self-reported data misses the reality 13:08 – Health gaps, underreporting, and life...
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Episode 134: Why Maritime Still Isn’t Connected – And What It Will Take to Fix It
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Guest: , Principal Engineer at Chair, Episode Overview: Maritime has no shortage of digital tools. What it lacks is connection. In this episode, speaks with Tim Morris about why shipping still operates in silos while other transport sectors have evolved into fully connected systems. They explore what intelligent transport systems (ITS) really mean in a maritime context, where the industry is falling short, and how better coordination across ports, vessels, and landside logistics could unlock efficiency, resilience, and sustainability. Key Moments 00:05 – Introduction Chris sets the...
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Episode 133: The Human Side of Shipping: Seafarer Welfare in a Connected World
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Episode 133: The Human Side of Shipping: Seafarer Welfare in a Connected World Episode Overview Recorded live at , this roundtable pulls back the curtain on seafarers’ welfare in modern shipping. Chris sits down with , , and to explore how digital transformation is reshaping life for crews when ships come into port. From Starlink and onboard connectivity to WhatsApp communication, e-commerce logistics, and social media visibility, this conversation highlights how seafarer welfare has evolved into a critical part of the maritime ecosystem. It also brings into focus a more immediate reality....
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Episode 132: How Cargill Thinks About Decarbonization, Risk, and the Future of Shipping with Jan Dieleman
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Episode 132: How Cargill Thinks About Decarbonization, Risk, and the Future of Shipping with Jan Dieleman Guest: Jan Dieleman President, Ocean Transportation — Cargill Chair, Global Maritime Forum Episode Overview In this episode of The Last Dinosaur, Chris Aversano speaks with , President of Ocean Transportation at and Chair of the . Cargill charters hundreds of vessels across global trades at any given time, moving grains, energy products, and raw materials around the world. From that vantage point, Jan offers a unique charterer perspective on how shipping decisions are made. Hint: it is...
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Episode 131: Driving Change in Maritime, and Why Port Calls Still Feel Like Orchestrated Chaos
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Episode 131: Driving Change in Maritime, and Why Port Calls Still Feel Like Orchestrated Chaos Guest: , CEO and Co-Founder, Also: Host of the vodcast Special Note: This is a co-produced episode and will be released on both The Last Dinosaur and Teqplay’s vodcast Driving Change in Maritime with Teqplay Episode Overview: This one is a true back and forth. Léon and Chris co-host a joint episode that moves from the reality of port call complexity to why “visibility” is still surprisingly hard, and how digital twins can make maritime data usable in the moments that matter. They also dig...
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Episode 130: Risk Is Changing, Lets Talk P&I Clubs, Digitalization, and the New Reality of Maritime Insurance
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Guest: CEO, Episode Overview Shipping has always been about risk. But the nature of that risk is shifting. In this episode, I sit down with Thomas Nordberg, CEO of The Swedish Club, to explore how maritime risk has evolved from vessel-centric, event-driven incidents to complex systemic exposures shaped by geopolitics, regulation, cyber threats, and digital transformation. This is not a conversation about premiums and policies. It is a practical look at how insurers are adapting, how shipowners should be thinking differently, and why the P&I club model may be more relevant today than...
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Episode 129: Decarbonization That Actually Works; Founder Lessons with Gordana Ilic, PhD of BetterSea
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Guest: — Co-Founder & Co-CEO, and host of Episode Overview: Gordana Ilic didn’t come up through shipping. Gordana’s path was through sustainability, entrepreneurship, corporate innovation, then into Maersk’s decarbonization work before returning to entrepreneurship. In this episode, we go beyond regulation talk and into what’s really happening in the market: how FuelEU is being received, why smaller owners moved faster than some of the giants, what pooling is changing culturally and commercially, and what founders learn the hard way about building in an industry that’s...
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Episode 128: Bridge to Boardroom: Class Society Reality, Tech Adoption, and the Ship–Shore Gap
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Guest: , Global Market Leader, Commercial at Episode Overview: Capt. Ankur Arora has lived shipping from all sides. Years at sea, senior roles with shipowners, and now inside a leading class society. In this episode, he breaks down what changes when innovation stops being a slide deck and starts living onboard: design choices that affect daily work, the role of modeling and verification, how connectivity reshapes crew life, and why talent pipelines depend on telling the real story of seafaring. Key Points: Why he chose sea life (and what he learned fast): Early responsibility, rapid...
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Episode 127 — Starting 2026 with the Right Mindset with Akanksha Batura Pai PD
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Guest: , PD Executive Director, Shipping Agency Pte Ltd | IMO Goodwill Maritime Ambassador (Emerita) | #1 Top 100 Women in Shipping Episode Overview: We kick off 2026 with a grounded, practical conversation with Akanksha Batura Pai PD, one of my favorite interviews to date. We talk about what digital transformation actually looks like inside a ship agency, why incremental change beats big-bang initiatives, how mindset drives successful adoption, and why clean data still matters more than AI hype. This episode is part of our ongoing partnership with and for the second year in a...
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Episode 126: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2025 with Evan Efstathiou
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In The Digital Age
Guest: , CEO of l and Founder of Episode Overview: For the fourth year in a row, Evan joins The Last Dinosaur to unpack the big storylines in maritime tech. From AI hype vs. reality and sector consolidation, to decarbonization, hardware innovation, and the next wave of corporate venture investing, this episode is your annual “state of the union” for digital shipping. Chris and Evan revisit last year’s predictions, look at what played out in 2025, and lay out what to watch closely in 2026. Key Points: AI Moves From Hype to “Show Me the Money”: AI has shifted from novelty add-on to...
info_outlineEpisode 94: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2024
Guest: Evangelos Efstathiou, Managing Director of SkySail Advisors Ltd and Chief Executive Officer of Burmester & Vogel
Editor's Note: Please note that there were some minor audio inconsistencies on the host's side during this episode. We appreciate your understanding and hope you enjoy the discussion!
Episode Overview: In this annual tradition, Christopher Aversano is joined by Evangelos Efstathiou for the third year in a row to review the year in maritime digitalization and tech. They discuss the biggest trends of 2024, including the evolution of AI in the maritime industry, private equity’s increasing influence, and the critical intersection of decarbonization and digitalization. Evangelos also shares updates on SkySail’s exciting partnership with AMA Capital and Burmester & Vogel’s game-changing advancements in AI for demurrage management.
Key Points:
- AI’s Transformational Role: AI’s integration in maritime operations has moved beyond hype, with practical applications driving revenue growth and operational efficiency. Burmester & Vogel’s AI solutions now account for 25% of its revenue, highlighting the technology’s real-world impact.
- Regulatory Push Toward Decarbonization: 2024 saw an increased focus on decarbonization initiatives such as FuelEU, with digital tools playing a pivotal role in tracking and optimizing emissions.
- Private Equity and Platform Consolidation: Evangelos highlights Kpler’s acquisition of Spire Maritime and MarineTraffic as an example of the ongoing trend of private equity-backed consolidation in maritime tech.
- SkySail’s Partnership with AMA Capital: The collaboration combines SkySail’s maritime tech expertise with AMA Capital’s proven investment banking capabilities, creating a new suite of services for maritime tech investments.
- The "Real AI" at Burmester & Vogel: After three years of development, Burmester & Vogel’s AI tools for demurrage management are redefining the workflow, automating processes, and significantly reducing human labor.
- Challenges in AI Adoption: While enthusiasm for AI is high, customers are navigating the noise created by vendors offering AI solutions without clear value. Evangelos draws parallels with the blockchain buzz five years ago.
- Consolidation in Maritime Efficiency Solutions: A bold prediction for 2025 suggests significant mergers between software and hardware players, offering holistic efficiency services from hull coatings to weather routing.
- Interest Rates and VC Funding: Rising interest rates have forced startups to focus on self-sustaining economics, challenging maritime tech ventures to prove product-market fit in a high-CAC environment.
Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London International Shipping Week, coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration!
Learn More: Check out Episode 89: Seafarers, Decarbonization, and Diversity at Sea with Ralph Juhl, EVP, Technical at Hafnia
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