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660: Following Christ in “Negative World” and Charlie Peacock

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Release Date: 03/12/2025

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With declining church attendance and shifting values, there’s no denying that our culture’s posture toward Christianity has changed. Some say America is now “post-Christian,” but author Aaron Renn believes it is downright “anti-Christian.” In a recent NY Times profile, Renn explains why he thinks Christianity now occupies a “negative world,” and why the winsome approach of leaders like Tim Keller should be abandoned for more aggressive tactics. Then, Phil talks with legendary musician, songwriter, and producer Charlie Peacock about his new memoir, “Roots in Rhythm: A Life in Music.” Also this week, a leaked memo reveals the real impact of Trump’s foreign aid cuts and immigration policy, and what exhibits would you add to the Museum of Failure?

 

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0:00 - Show Starts

 

2:35 - Theme Song

 

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5:10 - Museum of Failure

 

10:35 - Trump Cutting Funding—to the US?

 

24:30 - Negative World

 

32:57 - Crotch Christianity?

 

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55:20 - Interview

 

1:06:00 - Personal Spirituality and the Music Industry

 

1:14:22 - Death on the Mountaintop

 

1:31:30 - End Credits

 

Links from News Segment:

Museum of Failure:

https://abc7news.com/post/museum-failure-look-legal-challenges-surrounding-what-could-san-franciscos-newest-attraction/15955141/

 

Article on Aaren Renn by Ruth Graham and Madeleine Hordinski:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/06/us/aaron-renn-christianity-conservative-negative-world.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c&pvid=37FBD019-9B01-4CB8-B85C-587FBFCB4794#

 

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Roots and Rhythm by Charlie Peacock: A Life in Music: https://a.co/d/2lwSYE2

 

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