Why value creation matters more than timing your exit: a conversation with Tom Turmell
20/20 MONEY: The Business of Optometry
Release Date: 02/09/2026
20/20 MONEY: The Business of Optometry
The Optometry Success Podcast, hosted by Adam Cmejla, CFP and Chad Fleming, OD, FAAO helps private-practice optometrists build profitable, sustainable businesses with clarity and confidence. Hosted by Adam Cmejla, CFP—a financial planner and CFO to ODs nationwide—and Dr. Chad Fleming, OD—a multi-location practice owner with decades of hands-on experience—each 20-minute episode delivers practical strategies and actionable insights you can apply right away. From leadership and financials to team culture, operations, and growth, this is your weekly dose of real-world advice for real-world...
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If you wait until you’re ready to sell to start planning, you’re already late. My guest on today’s show is Tom Turmell, founder of TMT Capital. Tom joins me to talk about practice ownership, succession planning, and what optometrists need to understand long before they ever think about selling their practice. We discuss why creating value ahead of a transition matters, the importance of having the right advisory team in place, and how personal goals should drive exit decisions—not the other way around. Tom also shares why checking out during the sale process can be costly and...
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Almost every business owner knows they need to spend time working ON and not just IN their business. But what does it mean to take that concept to a whole new level by traveling and spending time outdoors with colleagues and strategic partners? Whether you choose to take time out of your business to work on your business and do it across town or across the country, this conversation with Drs. Julie Helmus, OD and Paul Mormon, OD talk about what it takes and means to truly invest in yourself by finding your tribe and community. This is also a perfect time to remind you, the listener, that in...
info_outlineIf you wait until you’re ready to sell to start planning, you’re already late. My guest on today’s show is Tom Turmell, founder of TMT Capital. Tom joins me to talk about practice ownership, succession planning, and what optometrists need to understand long before they ever think about selling their practice.
We discuss why creating value ahead of a transition matters, the importance of having the right advisory team in place, and how personal goals should drive exit decisions—not the other way around. Tom also shares why checking out during the sale process can be costly and why starting the planning conversation years in advance is one of the best moves a practice owner can make.
Resources:
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20/20 Money Ultimate Financial Success Masterclass
Current State & Business Plan Handout
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