Nick Smart: We Have a Responsibility to Ensure You're as Employable as Possible. Ep. 161
The Other Side Of The Bell - A Trumpet Podcast
Release Date: 07/08/2026
The Other Side Of The Bell - A Trumpet Podcast
This episode of The Other Side of the Bell, featuring trumpet educator, conductor and performer Nick Smart, is brought to you by . This episode also appears as a video episode on our YouTube channel, you can find it here: "" --- When Nick Smart was a teenager in Toddington, England, a retired professional trumpet player bought a local pub and turned it into a venue for daily jazz performances, from big band to traditional, mainstream and more, 8 shows per week. Nick was hooked, and set off on a career in music. But although that career has involved lots of composing,...
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This episode of The Other Side of the Bell, featuring trumpet performer Jay Webb, is brought to you by . This episode also appears as a video episode on our YouTube channel, you can find it here: "" You might know him from TikTok, or perhaps any of the myriad projects where he appears: The Hornheads, the Cory Wong and the Wongnotes YouTube series, any number of Broadway orchestra pits, the Grammy-winning 8-Bit Big Band, or most recently his Doc Severinsen tribute project (DST Band). Jay Webb is as versatile as they come, and today he shares his story and...
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This episode also appears as a video episode on our YouTube channel, you can find it here:
"Nick Smart Trumpet Interview"
And, find the expanded show notes, transcript and more photos here
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When Nick Smart was a teenager in Toddington, England, a retired professional trumpet player bought a local pub and turned it into a venue for daily jazz performances, from big band to traditional, mainstream and more, 8 shows per week. Nick was hooked, and set off on a career in music.
But although that career has involved lots of composing, performing, touring and recording, he ultimately found his passion (and a steady gig) as an educator, eventually becoming Head of Jazz Programmes at the Royal Academy of Music in London.
Nick is thus in excellent position to give us solid advice on not just being a student in higher education, but pursuing a career as a professional music educator. Nick's approach is carefully centred around what will ultimately be of best service to students, and understanding your role as the member of an academic department.
How do you prepare for such roles? Like any job application, do your research, read the posting carefully, and identify what they are looking for.
But for music specifically, there are further nuances. Do you understand the role and placement of the department within the broader community? What are their objectives and priorities when it comes to music education and reputation? What do they want to be known for? How would you fit into that scene?
As a student applicant, remember that a program may not be judging you so much on your ability as to how well you'll work together with others, and integrate into the spirit of the program.
We talk about jazz education, music theory, the construct of scales and arpeggios, and understanding structure: to then dance and improvise around that structure. That's what makes theory so fascinating.
Nick was with us recently alongside Brian Shaw, talking about their recent biography of Kenny Wheeler: Song For Someone: The Musical Life of Kenny Wheeler
Now, they've each had their own spotlight on The Other Side of the Bell, make sure to check out both episodes! Brian Shaw: Versatility, Baroque Trumpet and Serendipity. Ep. 158
"As an educator, get your ego out of the way too. It's about the students and it's about their range of experience and what you're into doesn't have to be important. It's only part of it." - Nick Smart
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- July 9-12, Southern Illinois University, Carbondale, Ill.
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Podcast Credits:
- “A Room with a View“ - composed and performed by Howie Shear
- Podcast Host - John Snell
- Photo Credits - Courtesy Nick Smart
- Audio Engineer - Ted Cragg