Episode 186 - Stop Selling Your Time: Start Selling Your Value - The Woodard Report Podcast
The Woodard Report Podcast: Featuring Heather Satterley and Joe Woodard
Release Date: 09/02/2026
The Woodard Report Podcast: Featuring Heather Satterley and Joe Woodard
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather and Joe discuss major changes shaping the accounting profession, including the growing influence of private equity, market consolidation, and the importance of maintaining a strong mindset regardless of the size of your firm. They also explore the concept of “crappification” in software, and what accountants can learn from the unsung role meteorologists played in D-Day. Current events — TV/Movie quote of the week — Excellent Thing We Learned — Member Spotlight — The Woodard Report article of the week — Thank...
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather speaks with Michelle Weinstein about how accounting professionals can escape burnout, increase revenue, and build more profitable firms by learning to communicate their value and sell with confidence. They discuss the importance of listening to clients, focusing on ideal customers, tracking the value and “wins” delivered to clients, and turning quick questions into deeper advisory conversations rather than giving away expertise for free. About Michelle Weinstein Michelle Weinstein is the founder of The Abundant Accountant and a sales...
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Heather talk about major changes reshaping the accounting profession, from the end of BOI reporting and unprecedented firm consolidation to the rise of boutique, relationship-driven practices. They also explore AI’s potential evolution from generative AI to AGI and beyond, new CPE rules allowing half-credit sessions, and the importance of innovation, intentional client relationships, and taking calculated risks to build a thriving practice. Current events — TV/Movie quote of the week — Excellent Thing We Learned — by...
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Dawn Brolin talk about the accelerating impact of AI on the accounting profession, from secure, specialized AI tools to the emerging potential of quantum computing. They explore why accounting professionals need to move beyond fear and begin experimenting with AI now, sharing practical examples of using tools like Claude and Tax Figure to analyze financial data, strengthen advisory services, and work more efficiently. Current events — TV/Movie quote of the week — Excellent Thing We Learned — There are a series of tags you...
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe speaks with Ron Baker about Peter Drucker’s most influential ideas, including the rise of knowledge work, the importance of effectiveness over efficiency, and the need for businesses to pursue future opportunities instead of clinging to the past. They also explore how accounting firms can use distinct brands to separate commoditized services from high-value advisory work as well as why religious leaders offer valuable insights into purpose, dignity, stewardship, and the moral role of business. About Ron BakerRonald J. Baker began his CPA...
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather speaks with Peter McCarroll about why accounting firms must treat AI adoption as a strategic business transformation rather than simply adding new software tools. Peter explains the pricing pressures threatening traditional compliance work, the need to redesign firms around advisory value and human relationships, and how reusable AI instructions and skills can help teams turn individual experimentation into shared, repeatable processes. About Peter McCarroll Peter McCarroll is a Chartered Accountant (NZ), CPA (Canada), and the founder of...
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Heather talk about Xero’s move into the midmarket, why accounting firms may find greater opportunity above the AI disruption zone, and how empathy can defuse difficult client conversations. They also discuss how personal transformation can lead to a healthier, more successful practice. Current events — TV/Movie quote of the week — Excellent Thing We Learned — Member spotlight — The Woodard Report article of the week — Thank you to our show sponsor, Digits! Digits is the world's first agent general ledger,...
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe speaks with Jan Haugo about how accounting firms can move beyond experimenting with AI and begin using it to transform workflows, increase profitability, and create more capacity for strategic advisory services. Jan shares practical approaches for overcoming security concerns and uncertainty, including her “pain, problem, prompt” method, while emphasizing the importance of firmwide training, strong governance, and leadership-driven adoption. They also explore how AI can help accountants become more thoughtful, empathetic advisors by...
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Heather speak about Microsoft’s latest quantum computing and AI developments, and what those shifts could mean for accounting professionals. They also connect lessons from TV, April Rinne’s book Flux, and Donna Reed’s article on client conversations to the importance of adaptability, empathy, and intentional decision-making in advisory work. Current events — TV/Movie quote of the week — Excellent Thing We Learned — Member spotlight — The Woodard Report article of the week — The Quiet Question that...
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Heather speak about emerging developments shaping the accounting profession, including the consolidation of New England CPA societies, Pilot's shift from a local partnership model to AI-powered bookkeeping software, and how firms can use automation to elevate, not replace, their advisory services. They also explore the importance of healthy client boundaries, lessons from popular TV shows, recent IRS penalty relief opportunities, and why uniquely human qualities like navigating uncertainty and building relationships remain essential in an...
info_outlineOn this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather speaks with Michelle Weinstein about how accounting professionals can escape burnout, increase revenue, and build more profitable firms by learning to communicate their value and sell with confidence. They discuss the importance of listening to clients, focusing on ideal customers, tracking the value and “wins” delivered to clients, and turning quick questions into deeper advisory conversations rather than giving away expertise for free.
About Michelle Weinstein
Michelle Weinstein is the founder of The Abundant Accountant and a sales strategist who helps CPAs, EAs, Accounting, Tax, Bookkeeping, and Fractional CFO firm owners generate more revenue without working harder and burning out. Through the 8-Week Sales Mastery Training, she teaches firm owners how to build a proven sales process, communicate their value, gain the confidence to raise their fees, and enroll premium clients without pressure or burnout. Her work helps firm owners build more profitable practices without working more hours, chasing more clients, or giving away their expertise for free.
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