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ep 151 / Trauma-Dumping or Building Intimacy? How We Turn Our Baggage Into a Healthy Relationship

Relationship Dish

Release Date: 10/22/2026

ep 152 / Beyond the Bedroom: The Truth About Sex, Intimacy, and Imperfect Relationships with Dr. Lea Haber show art ep 152 / Beyond the Bedroom: The Truth About Sex, Intimacy, and Imperfect Relationships with Dr. Lea Haber

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to join Iona and Pam at the Vancouver Public Library November 5th! What if we treated our sex lives the way we treat our dental health—not waiting until there's a painful problem, but checking in regularly and taking care of things before they go wrong? This week, Iona and Pam welcome Dr. Lea Haber, global relationship expert and clinical sexologist, to talk about the often-overlooked connection between sexual wellness, emotional intimacy, and the overall health of our relationships. As a sexologist, Dr. Lea takes a holistic approach, helping couples explore both the physical and emotional...

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ep 151 / Trauma-Dumping or Building Intimacy? How We Turn Our Baggage Into a Healthy Relationship show art ep 151 / Trauma-Dumping or Building Intimacy? How We Turn Our Baggage Into a Healthy Relationship

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What happens when two people show up to a first date with plenty of emotional baggage—and decide to put it all on the table? This week, Iona and Pam welcome a very special couple to Relationship Dish: their producer, Jenn, and her partner, Michael! Visiting from the US for Iona’s book launch party, Jenn and Michael share the story of how they found each other after painful breakups, what they learned from relationships that didn’t work, and how they’re building something different together. Their first date might sound like a therapist’s dream—or nightmare. They spent the first...

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ep 150 / Are We Ever Really Past It? How Healthy Couples Handle Old Patterns show art ep 150 / Are We Ever Really Past It? How Healthy Couples Handle Old Patterns

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Ever have a relationship that’s been going really well, only to have an old issue suddenly rear its head and make you wonder, “Wait… haven’t we already dealt with this?” Iona and her husband Steve recently had one of those moments—and in this episode, Iona and Pam put their therapists’ hats on and take a close look at what happened, what went wrong, and how they found their way back to each other. The disagreement started innocently enough: a garage sale, two lamps, a dog walk, and Steve taking a phone call from his dad while walking ten feet ahead of Iona. But that ten feet hit...

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ep 149 / The Marriage Is Over: What ep 149 / The Marriage Is Over: What "The Invite" Gets Right (and Wrong) with Zach Brittle

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SPOILER ALERT! This episode is all about The Invite, Olivia Wilde and Seth Rogen’s new movie—and if you haven’t seen it yet, you may want to watch it before listening. Iona and Pam are joined by licensed therapist Zach Brittle, host of Marriage Therapy Radio and author of the forthcoming book, Nothing Changes if Nothing Changes, for a lively, therapist-on-therapist dissection of the film’s troubled couples. And wow, is it uncomfortable. All three therapists found themselves squirming as they watched Joe and Angela’s marriage deteriorate on screen, because there’s something...

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ep 148 / ADHD & Relationships: It’s Not “Try Harder”—It’s Try Differently show art ep 148 / ADHD & Relationships: It’s Not “Try Harder”—It’s Try Differently

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What happens when ADHD walks into a relationship? In this eye-opening episode of Relationship Dish, Pam and Iona welcome Natalie Wiseman, a Vancouver- and Florida-based counsellor who specializes in working with couples affected by ADHD, to explore how this neurodevelopmental disorder can shape everything from household responsibilities to intimacy. Natalie explains why ADHD can be mistaken for laziness, carelessness, or a lack of commitment—and why understanding the difference between intent and impact is so important. They talk about time blindness, forgotten promises, unequal...

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ep 147 / Vacation Test: What Travel Reveals About Your Relationship show art ep 147 / Vacation Test: What Travel Reveals About Your Relationship

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Ever wonder why a vacation can either bring a couple closer—or make them want to kill each other? In this episode of Relationship Dish, Iona and Pam explore what happens when you take a relationship out of its everyday environment and put it under the pressure of travel, logistics, limited escape routes, and way too much togetherness. Iona shares how a recent vacation with her husband Steve went better than any trip they've taken before—and why she believes it's a reflection of the work they've been doing in their marriage. She's become better at tolerating who Steve actually is rather...

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ep 146 / Homeostasis: Why Relationships Resist Change show art ep 146 / Homeostasis: Why Relationships Resist Change

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Ever feel like the moment you start changing, the people around you push back? You're not imagining it. In this eye-opening episode of Relationship Dish, Pam and Iona explore the concept of homeostasis—the predictable emotional balance every relationship and family system naturally tries to maintain, whether it's healthy or not. They unpack why even positive changes can feel threatening to those around us, how loved ones can unintentionally pull us back into familiar patterns, and why changing one person inevitably changes the entire relationship dynamic. Pam reflects on the "honeymoon...

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ep 145 / When Addiction Tests a Marriage: A Parent’s Journey (with Elana Epstein) show art ep 145 / When Addiction Tests a Marriage: A Parent’s Journey (with Elana Epstein)

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What happens to a marriage when your child is struggling with addiction? In this powerful and deeply moving episode of Relationship Dish, Pam and Iona welcome author Elana Epstein to share how she and her husband of 32 years navigated while trying to help their son through addiction and recovery. Elana opens up about the early warning signs she sensed, the temptation to protect both her son and her husband by keeping secrets, and how quickly a family crisis can create distance between partners. She explains how children struggling with addiction may play parents against each other, and why...

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ep 144 / Narcissists, Manipulators, and the Myth of the Buzzword with Carla Litto, LMFT show art ep 144 / Narcissists, Manipulators, and the Myth of the Buzzword with Carla Litto, LMFT

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Is everyone who hurts you a narcissist? In this fascinating episode of Relationship Dish, Pam and Iona welcome licensed therapist and author Carla Litto—whom Iona affectionately calls "the anti-narcissist extraordinaire"—to separate internet myths from clinical reality. ( to order her book, Outsmarting Egomaniacs!) Carla explains the difference between everyday narcissistic traits and true narcissistic personality disorder, why the term narcissist has exploded in popular culture, and how labeling someone can sometimes distract us from examining our own patterns in relationships. Drawing on...

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ep 143 / Boundaries Aren't Selfish: Listening to Your Body Before It Shouts show art ep 143 / Boundaries Aren't Selfish: Listening to Your Body Before It Shouts

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What if your feelings weren't a problem to solve, but a signal to pay attention to? In this episode of Relationship Dish, Pam and Iona explore boundary-setting through a lens that many people miss: your body's own warning system. They discuss how anxiety, irritability, sadness, overwhelm, numbness, and even physical sensations can be clues that you're moving outside your window of tolerance—and that a boundary may be needed. Pam shares how years of suppressing her feelings in marriage eventually led to eruptions of anger, while Iona tells the story of a man who spent so long ignoring his own...

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What happens when two people show up to a first date with plenty of emotional baggage—and decide to put it all on the table? This week, Iona and Pam welcome a very special couple to Relationship Dish: their producer, Jenn, and her partner, Michael! Visiting from the US for Iona’s book launch party, Jenn and Michael share the story of how they found each other after painful breakups, what they learned from relationships that didn’t work, and how they’re building something different together.

Their first date might sound like a therapist’s dream—or nightmare. They spent the first hour talking about their past relationship trauma, emotional baggage, and complicated living situations. But here’s the distinction: they weren’t simply dumping their pain on each other. They were also reflecting on what had happened, recognizing their own patterns, and talking about what they wanted to change. That willingness to take responsibility for their histories helped create something essential from the start: a sense of emotional safety.

Michael opens up about a previous relationship in which conflict could lead to days or even weeks of silence, leaving him responsible for breaking the impasse and trying to repair things. Jenn shares how a relationship that worked well in everyday life became unsafe when her partner’s unresolved anger and drinking escalated into emotional abuse. Though their experiences were different, both came away knowing that love alone isn’t enough—and that you cannot make things work by yourself. A healthy relationship requires two people willing to be stewards of the relationship, not one person carrying the whole thing.

So what does doing the work look like in practice? Jenn and Michael discuss how past experiences have made them hyper-aware of each other’s moods, sometimes interpreting a partner’s bad day as a sign that something is wrong between them. Michael’s solution is their “reset button”: a way to recognize the pattern, step back, and stop treating each other as the problem. Iona and Pam explore how naming a pattern helps couples become a team against the conflict itself, why resolving arguments creates the conditions for intimacy, and how individual therapy and self-awareness support healthier relationships.

Ultimately, so much of our relationship behavior comes back to two fundamental questions: Am I lovable? And are you trustworthy? We may bring old wounds into our relationships, but we don’t have to let those wounds run the show. When both partners are willing to reflect, take responsibility, and keep learning—individually and together—the past can become a source of insight rather than a blueprint for the future.