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The Green Flame : Episode 1 Excerpt, Saba Malik on Self-Defense and War

The Green Flame

Release Date: 05/13/2019

Strategy for the Eco-Revolution with Roger Hallam show art Strategy for the Eco-Revolution with Roger Hallam

The Green Flame

Roger Hallam is the co-founder of Extinction Rebellion, Radical Routes, Burning Pink, and Just Stop Oil. On today's show, we discuss strategy for the climate and ecological movements, the role of mass street protests and public assemblies, violence vs. nonviolence, revolutions throughout history, the collapse of industrial civilization, the dangers of fascism, practical organizing tips, and more. While we don't agree with Roger on everything, we're always thrilled to discuss these topics with passionate and hardworking people. Roger's website is . The Green Flame podcast could use your...

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For episode 100 of The Green Flame, we hosted a special live conversation between hosts Jennifer Murnan and Saba Malik, Saba Malik, Renee Gerlich, Carl Van Warmerdam, and Rebecca Wildbear. We announced that the show has separated from Deep Green Resistance, reflected on the origins of the Green Flame, discussed our favorite and most impactful episodes, and discussed our organizing projects. This episode is a celebration. JOIN the email list for the new confederation:  DONATE to The Green Flame: READ Max's reflections on leaving DGR:  Leaving us a positive review or rating helps us...

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Episode 99 is an interview with Carl Van Warmerdam.  Carl delves into on the impact listening to the Ahjamu Umi Green Flame episode had on his life and activism.  We asked Carl three primary questions: How has the GF informed and inspired you?  What is your favorite episode?  What would you like to hear more of on the GF?  Please email  with your written, audio or video recorded responses to these questions so we can include your reflections in our Episode 100! Live Event, April 14th 2024, 4 - 7 PM Pacific Time.  You can find this live event on DGR's facebook...

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The Tongass Rainforest in Southeast Alaska is the last great expanse of temperate old growth forest left in the United States, and it has been partially protected since the "Roadless Rule" halted most logging there in 2001.  Now, the "biggest threat to the west coast rainforest this century" is here: Bill S.1889/H.R. 4748, which would permanently privatize 115,200 acres (including 60,000 acres of old-growth) of Tongass National Forest into the hands of Sealaska Corporation — which has already logged massive swathes of the region. This conversation with Tlingit elder and forest defender...

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Dr Nzinga Dalilia, Saba Malik, and Max Wilbert join in conversation offering their unique perspectives on trauma, trauma community, addiction, “environmental justice”, othering, the necessity of feeling safe in the process of seeing and being seen, healing spaces, falling back in love with ourselves and with all of life and coming into our individual and collective power in the process and much more. Watch for part two of this heartfelt compassionate and expansive exploration of Black People for the Natural World.   Dr. Dalila's book can be found here:...

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Before listening to this episode, stop. For the first time Lierre Keith’s presentation on non-violent direct action is publicly available!  Go here and absorb this information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMk1eltyuek Next, listen this GF episode, Lierre’s account of ten courageous women's experiences as they organized and practiced NVDA brilliantly in November 2023 in Portland, Oregon. Here’s the link to listen to the women’s speeches that the mob failed to silence:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgCCULqQ1mqE7kDS3JOS7H6ZQeUjAhpkg 

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Attny Bobby Chan graces us with an introduction to the deep social justice and spiritual roots of PNNI (Palawan NGO Network Inc) founded in 1991. PNNI organizes communities through consensus. They use advocacy, civilian enforcement and increasingly are seeking legal measures to protect and defend the Palawan paradise. To learn more and support this work go to https://www.pnni.org/

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Jessica Reznicek is a 40-year-old land and water defender who has worked with and lived in the Des Moines Catholic Worker Community. After being charged with a "terrorism enhancement," she was sentenced to 8 years in 2021 for taking action to protect the water along the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) route by disabling construction machinery during the Standing Rock uprising.  No one was injured by Jessica and her fellow Catholic Worker’s actions, and the land was protected from the flow of oil for an additional six months. On this episode, we share an update on her legal case, and...

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Species extinction. Plastic pollution. Global warming. Catastrophic floods. Raging fires. The failure of coral reefs. Whales dying en masse. Forever chemicals contaminating mothers' breast milk.   Our planet is in crisis. And while the wealthy and governments pour trillions into technological so-called “solutions,” things are spiraling out of control.   What if solving the ecological crisis depended on falling in love with the natural world, and acting to defend those we love?   What if a biocentric worldview — one which places the natural world at the center of our...

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Joshua Wright talks about his film Eden's Last Chance that was released in April of 2023. "For the nonhuman world, the apocalypse has already arrived. Don’t be a bystander to the death of the living world." Go to or watch it on Prime Video, Vimeo, Apple TV, Vudu, and Hoopla. The Fairy Creek Blockade has been established again: "WE ARE BACK  (We need YOU to JOIN US) - July 31, 2023, Pacheedaht Territory: A group of Forest Defenders have set up a camp to prevent the logging of old growth forests on Ed are inburgh Mountain near Port Renfrew BC. They are using a massive effigy of a screech...

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This excerpt from the first episode of "The Green Flame Podcast" is a snippet of our interview with Saba Malik. In this conversation, Saba speaks of her travels in the Hunza Valley region of Pakistan, and of communities engaging in self-defense and long-term ecological sustainability.