The Anxiety Loop Explained, and How to Interrupt It with Dr. Judson Brewer
Release Date: 01/28/2026
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Dr. Marc Brackett sits down with Dr. Judson Brewer to unpack how worry becomes a habit, why reassurance and mental debate often backfire, and how curiosity can disrupt the cycle without forcing you to “think positive.”
In this conversation:
- How anxiety becomes a loop: trigger → worry → short relief → more worry
- Why worrying feels like control even when it isn’t
- Curiosity as the interrupt that changes the pattern
- Anxiety vs stress vs overwhelm and why precise labeling matters
- A simple way to shift from “oh no” to “oh”
About the guest:
Dr. Judson Brewer is a psychiatrist and neuroscientist who studies habit change and anxiety.
Judd’s books: Unwinding Anxiety, The Craving Mind, The Hunger Habit
Programs & resources:
https://goingbeyondanxiety.com
https://juddbrewer.substack.com
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