Defying the COVID Narrative with Del Bigtree

Join us for an engaging discussion with Del Bigtree, a prominent advocate for health choice and the host of The High Wire. Del takes us on a journey through pivotal moments in health advocacy, from the "Defeat the Mandates" rally in Washington DC to the influential "Battle of Trenton" in New Jersey. These events marked significant turning points, challenging the mainstream narrative around COVID-19 and vaccines and encouraging a broader recognition of those once viewed as "anti-vaxxers." Through Del's personal story of transformation from a television producer to a powerful advocate for medical freedom, we explore the impact of media and pharmaceutical interests on public health narratives.

The episode delves into pressing global health concerns, focusing on the efficacy and safety of vaccines and antibiotics. Del raises important questions about the integrity of pharmaceutical practices, particularly the expedited release of vaccines during the COVID-19 pandemic without proper safety trials. We reflect on the evolving challenges posed by vaccine-resistant diseases and antibiotic-resistant strains, urging a reevaluation of modern medical interventions' long-term sustainability. Del's insights push us to consider the broader implications for public health and policy, advocating for honest dialogue and a reassessment of current approaches.

As the conversation unfolds, we address the potential impact of Central Bank Digital Currencies on individual freedom and privacy, emphasizing the need for vigilance against government overreach. Del shares his thoughts on the societal dynamics during the COVID-19 pandemic, highlighting mass conformity and its historical parallels. The episode underscores the importance of unity over division, urging us to find common ground despite differing beliefs. Through a lens of empathy and understanding, we navigate complex topics to promote positive change in a rapidly evolving world.

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0:05:13 - TV Producer to Health Advocate Transition (34 Seconds)
0:07:51 - Whistleblower CDC Journalism Film Story (65 Seconds)
0:17:04 - Uncovering Vaccine Safety Concerns (65 Seconds)
0:21:32 - Podcasts and CBDC Resistance Rise (84 Seconds)
0:24:53 - Impact of CBDCs on Currency Control (57 Seconds)
0:30:16 - Impacts of Fear and Isolation (54 Seconds)
0:35:43 - Reflections on Personal Experience and Reconciliation (89 Seconds)
0:41:37 - Vaccine Safety Concerns Unveiled (56 Seconds)
0:45:04 - Political Awakening Through Vaccine Investigation (81 Seconds)
0:49:16 - Uniting Through Agreement (111 Seconds)

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* TV Producer to Health Advocate Transition | 0:05:13 - 0:05:47 (34 Seconds)

0:05:13 Ryan McCormick
. Before we go on a little bit further about the COVID war, I want to come back a little bit to your previous experience. You used to be a producer on the Doctors. What was your reason why you decided to take on the chance to start speaking out, to start going on a path that not many people have gone on before? What was the turning point for you? Why did you feel that you had to take the action that you did?  

0:05:38 Del Bigtree
Well, I mean, there's multiple ways to answer that question. To begin with, it goes back to how I was raised. I had really forward-thinking  

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* Whistleblower CDC Journalism Film Story | 0:07:51 - 0:08:55 (65 Seconds)

0:07:51 Del Bigtree
It was something that in my soul I'd always felt like there was a story that was going to be told that, that I needed to tell and I just hadn't found it yet. So I could even say, as a journalist, when you stumble on something that had as much, has many facts and as many pieces of truth and it had a whistleblower inside the CDC at the heart of that story I just was surprised. I was the only journalist in the world telling it. You know, and I think every journalist looks for their sort of Woodward and Bernstein moment, and it was clear to me that that's, that's what I was going to be able to bring to this conversation. And so it had a lot of things to all came together in that film and there was just no way I could turn away from it. And I remember talking to dr andrew wakefield, who had already been working on it for about a year and a half, and the people don't know who he is.  

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* Uncovering Vaccine Safety Concerns | 0:17:04 - 0:18:09 (65 Seconds)

0:17:04 Del Bigtree
So this story is really, really, and I think COVID revealed a lot of it. It revealed that they will call something a vaccine that doesn't actually stop you from catching it, and so then you've got to ask yourself is that really a vaccine? What is this? What are we a part of? So all of this is just the ongoing investigation and journey and research and, as you said, we were able to predict where things were going because we had had from 2016 to 2020, so four solid years of investigation into how the vaccines were made, how they covered up the problems, how they faked the safety studies. None of them not one of the vaccines we give our kids ever went through a proper safety trial, which can only be defined by a randomized control trial using a placebo. None of them used a placebo in their pre-licensure phase before they were put on the market. Exactly what we just watched with COVID in many ways rushed onto the market, and so this was a story we already knew. We knew how the game was played. We knew all of their rules.  

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* Podcasts and CBDC Resistance Rise | 0:21:32 - 0:22:56 (84 Seconds)

0:21:32 Del Bigtree
I think that we now, where we were all alone, there are just so many podcasts. We've watched multiple hosts on Fox sort of pick up this mantle. So there's hope that we're reaching. We're starting to reach the mainstream and I think when you look at the CBDCs, you know this central digital currency we already are seeing. I want to say I think it's somewhere between 16 and 19 governors, I think, have all come together across America saying we will not allow this into our state. That's a really, really good sign. That means that we don't have to travel this really long, tenuous journey through being called conspiracy theorists. It means, I think, once you have politicians stating it on the news, it's really hard for them to couch it in this conspiracy space. They'll still try, but it won't be successful. So that means, in many ways, we've already nipped this in the bud in some ways, which means we're not going to be on this long, precarious journey to what you know. Is this even real? I think we know it's real, but now we've all got to do that job that we learned to do through COVID those of us who were involved to wake up our friends and neighbors and say we cannot look the other way on this. You've got to be writing your representatives and say please stop this. This is not the future. You know we've been investigating this. As I said, we're doing more you know shows on this.  

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* Impact of CBDCs on Currency Control | 0:24:53 - 0:25:50 (57 Seconds)

0:24:53 Del Bigtree
I think the CBDCs is the end game, if that. I mean I think the moment you have that. When that comes into place, where your money, they can decide how long it lasts. I mean, can you imagine an expiration date on your money? That can change. They talk about governments can say, look, we need an influx of money. You're going to have to go out and spend your money. That can change. They talk about. Governments can say, look, we need an influx of money, you're going to have to go out and spend your money. It's not allowed to sit in an account or it will lose its value or it'll start, you know, decreasing in value as you're not using it. All of these things, or you can't spend it on something you've used up your carbon credits. I know you're at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse but you're going to have to get a salad today because that steak puts you over your carbon credits. These are the types of things that people might laugh about, but it is literally being discussed in davos. You can see it coming out of their mouths. They're talking about these things if we lose you know our dollar that way, if we get down to a central digital currency that our government controls?  

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* Impacts of Fear and Isolation | 0:30:16 - 0:31:10 (54 Seconds)

0:30:16 Del Bigtree
It was really an amazing moment and I think for anybody that was even the slightest bit still awake, any question of how did nazi germany happen, I think, was wiped away. You're like, oh my god, I've always. You're like, oh my God, not only is it possible, it's amazing how quickly someone will turn in their neighbor if they feel like they're doing what's right, you know, and that sort of virtue signaling thing. Have we gotten past that just because this pandemic's gone? I don't think so. I mean, I think when you look around, you know it seems to have relaxed a little bit, but when you talk to people they're still feeling isolated, they're very worried about the economy and their future in it and forget it. If you talk about their kids, they're still tense, they're angry that they feel like they don't have control over their lives and something else does. So I think all of those elements are there.  

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* Reflections on Personal Experience and Reconciliation | 0:35:43 - 0:37:12 (89 Seconds)

0:35:43 Ryan McCormick
And I was also wondering at the same time, what are some of the things that you personally went through? I mean, was it? Was it hard for you during this period of time, especially speaking out as a level, that you were speaking out? You weren't just some average person. You were a person that was probably the leading the biggest fight in the history of humanity for freedom at this point, along with so many others look.  

0:36:01 Del Bigtree
I always hold out for reconciliation. We're all brothers and sisters on this earth together. But one thing that would have to happen before that's possible, I say it's like forgiveness. You know, first you have to repent for what you've done. You have to recognize what, what the wrong that has been done. I don't know what we're reconciling if you don't know what we're reconciling. You know, I am not in a position to suddenly say I forgive everything when I am not hearing from the other side Our bad, our bad. You should have had your rights all the way through this. The lockdowns never worked. In fact they've created far more disease and harm and suicides and alcoholism and abuse. In every single study done around the world, far more people dead because the lockdowns than were ever possibly saved. And actually the science shows didn't save anybody. Virus still got to everybody, masking the same way. The vaccine is a disaster. So until I hear my government saying you know we made a mistake, we overplayed our hand. In some ways we put assumptions in place of science. That has come up short.  

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* Vaccine Safety Concerns Unveiled | 0:41:37 - 0:42:33 (56 Seconds)

0:41:37 Del Bigtree
And you know there's many reasons why I put vaccines at the center of that, but that's a different conversation. So I was angry about it and I was going to talk to the scientists. We're going to address the very scientists that seem to be wearing blindfolds on what they were doing. And what I came away with is I called my wife right after, you know, I got out of the meeting and I said you know what, honey, these people really believe this stuff they really they don't like. For instance, when we asked them why, you know, have you not done a placebo study of any of the childhood vaccines or are they just being done in early phase trials? That we don't see. And Tony fauci admitted right there we don't do placebo studies because it'd be unethical and meaning like they have such a religious belief in this word vaccines, even though it has all the same dangerous chemicals and compounds and even adds viruses and bacteria living organisms to the that any drug would have.  

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* Political Awakening Through Vaccine Investigation | 0:45:04 - 0:46:26 (81 Seconds)

0:45:11 Del Bigtree
I mean, I've learned about this is, you know, I've learned to really love human beings and that's something that what this journey of vaccines has done for me. And it affected my politics. I grew up I was a loud mouth, progressive liberal Democrat, loved to argue Republicans any time, any day of the week would have it out. And I remember I talked to a friend of mine that was a libertarian just a couple months before I stumbled into this whole vaccine investigation and you know I liked a lot of libertarian values. I said, but it just comes up short and there's certain things I was like I think it's just overplayed and I just don't think it would work. And he said mark my words someday the Democrats are going to step on an issue you actually care about and you will realize how dangerous they are. And um, and the vaccine issue, it has, what I would say, left me politically marooned. It really rocked me that you know in California fighting for you know in California fighting for you know just choice, the fact that I can say my body, my choice, to a Democrat, that makes perfect sense if I'm talking about abortion to them, but if I'm talking about vaccines it's like I'm the Antichrist, like that was mind blowing to me.  

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* Uniting Through Agreement | 0:49:16 - 0:51:06 (111 Seconds)

0:49:16 Del Bigtree
I think people are going to see a different way that this is all discussed. I think there's a smarter way to talk about it, in a way that we can all be united again. We've got to find and I really think as a society and a population, not just in America but around the world, we really need to make it. You know I want to say sexy again, but we need to make our uniting like talking about the things we agree on being what makes a great conversation, not what we disagree on, because this just focusing on disagreements, just asking politicians about what we know, will piss off the other side or piss off this. It's tearing us apart and we're not going to survive it. I think we've got to look at ourselves in this moment, what we've been through, and say, man, we're all really good at being divided and I don't care if you are vaccine hesitant. You're afraid of your friends that got the vaccine, the scientists that are against you, as afraid as they are of some virus that's out there. And so we're all suffering from a disease of separation. We really, really need to get back to loving each other, saying, okay, why don't we pick five things we're united on and that we agree on, we can do something about? And maybe, just for an extra course, we'll take on one little issue maybe we disagree on, but let's make the majority of our conversations about what we agree on, because there is so much there and the reason our governments, the reason the media wants us focused on what divides us, because then they own us. Then we're tuning in, we're angry, we're afraid, we're alone and they can do anything to us that they want. Divided, we fall. United, we rise and we prevail. It's time to unite.