The Gameshow that Pays to Play | Internet Explorers Ep. 70
Release Date: 03/09/2025
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We sit down with Internet-native builder and creative coder Mike Bodge to break down his newest experiment: AUX, a gamified curation tool for attention, links, and taste. Described as StumbleUpon meets group chat meets token-powered leaderboard, AUX lets you post URLs that battle for the Internet’s front page. It’s an onchain attention economy that’s equal parts meme-fuel and media archive—designed with taste, not virality, in mind. Before Mike joins, Jess, Josh, and Peace explore the week’s most interesting moments: Noice, the evolution of creator tokens, and why L1 assets might be...
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Forget VC: Founders Turn to "Internet Capital Markets" | Internet Explorers Ep. 80
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Will the concept of "Internet Capital Markets" reshape how founders raise capital? This episode explores the implications of platforms like Believe, which enable app developers to bypass traditional VC funding. Featuring guest co-host Jarrod Dicker, the discussion delves into the challenges and opportunities of this new paradigm, including the tension between short-term speculation and long-term value creation. The conversation examines the evolving dynamics between founders, investors, and users in the crypto ecosystem, and considers how consumer crypto apps might redefine the role of...
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Don’t Get Rugged by an AI Agent | Internet Explorers Ep. 79
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What happens when you unleash thousands of AI agents into a fake economy filled with scams, memecoins, and market manipulation? Poof from DX Terminal joins Internet Explorers to explain why that might be the future of crypto. In this week’s episode of Internet Explorers, we dive into the second banana zone with a special guest: Poof from DX Terminal. The gang explores DX Terminal’s wild new simulation—a weeklong, no-stakes, AI-generated memecoin market that’s equal parts Mario Kart and Wolf of Wall Street. They also unpack a massive week of mainstream adoption: Stripe’s move into...
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Zora Founder on the Plan to Pay Creators | Internet Explorers Ep. 78 (LIVE!)
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If content "wants to be free", how can creators get paid? In this special edition live interview, we sit down with Jacob Horne, cofounder of Zora, for a candid conversation on the company’s evolving vision—and what they got wrong early on. Jacob opens up about Zora’s shift from marketplace to protocol, why onchain media matters more than ever, and how consumer apps in crypto have been missing the point. If you’ve ever wondered what Zora actually is or where it’s going next, this is the episode to hear it from the source. Along the way: protocol tradeoffs, the fragility of NFT...
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How Valuable Are Your Memories? (feat. RAC) | Internet Explorers Ep. 77
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$ZORA is here, memecoins are changing, CT is mad—but what does it all mean? This episode unpacks Zora's recent token launch, explores the burdens of governance, and dives deep into how "just-for-fun" tokens might be redefining crypto markets, if not the very concept of "value." Later, special guest RAC (André Allen Anjos) joins to discuss Memory Protocol, the ambitious new identity and data-sharing layer he’s co-founded, which promises to revolutionize how we manage and monetize our digital identities—starting with the music industry. This episode unpacks: $ZORA token launch and...
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This Founder's App Was Going Nowhere. Now It's #1 | Internet Explorers Ep. 76
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Nick Confrey’s first app was all promise, no traction—until one bold pivot changed everything. This week on Internet Explorers, the crew starts with the messy fallout from Base’s content coin launch—an experiment in onchain media that spiraled into backlash, infighting, and meme coin chaos. But the real story comes in the second half, when Nick joins the show to share how he turned a floundering generalized social platform into Tome—a viral BookTok hit that hit #1 in the App Store’s books category. Nick walks us through his journey from building for “everyone” to focusing on...
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The Harsh Reality of Onchain Games | Internet Explorers Ep. 75
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What if a game you built today could still be played a thousand years from now? Onchain gaming is one of the hardest bets in crypto — and Kamigotchi is taking a radically different path to survive. Lethe joins to break down why most projects fail, and how building the simplest possible game could create a world that lasts for centuries. Later, Jaimin from Beans joins to share how they’re turning Internet speculation into a daily game of discovery. Plus: the future of three-person unicorns, AI-native teams, tokenized subforums, and how Plastic Labs could reshape memory and personalization...
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Most Startups Misunderstand Incentives feat. Joseph Al-Chami | Internet Explorers Ep. 74
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The future of crypto might not be bots, bulls**t, and broken incentives — but first, we have some serious receipts to go through. This week we are joined by researcher Joseph Al-Chami for a wide-ranging dive into the biggest consumer crypto stories of the week — and an honest reckoning with how points systems, appcoins, agentic investors, and open social graphs are actually playing out. From Circle’s IPO drama to AI SEO strategies, we’re connecting the dots on what’s really happening across consumer crypto, AI, and internet culture. We kick off with a quickfire rundown of Appcoins,...
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The Internet Loves Ghibli... But Not Enough to Pay? | Internet Explorers Ep. 73
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Ghibli memes took over the internet. But the studio captured none of the value. In this week’s Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh break down how OpenAI’s viral Ghibli-style image launch became a masterclass in attention-hijacking — and why crypto, NFTs, and tokens still fail to help artists and IP holders capture their fair share. From meme coin spikes to the role of protocol design, they unpack how this moment exposed crypto’s biggest cultural opportunity (and blind spot). Later, Priyanka from Tribute Labs joins to debut ADIN, their new AI-native investment DAO. The crew explores...
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How to Solve Crypto’s Real Problem | Internet Explorers Ep. 72
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The crypto industry got a serious vibe check this week—and it feels like we’re hitting an inflection point. Solana’s latest ad campaign sparked a massive backlash, raising questions about the values shaping the space. Was it just a misfire, or does it signal a deeper cultural shift? At the same time, outdated token models are finally being called out as the industry moves past high-FDV, low-float launches that leave investors holding the bag. We also dive into the rise of stablecoins in fintech, how Privy is making crypto onboarding seamless, and why crypto’s UX problem is...
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This week on Internet Explorers, we sit down with Krish Jagirdar, co-founder of Rek Tech, the crypto game show where players compete for high-stakes prizes like Rolexes and rare NFTs. Krish shares how Internet Game evolved into Rek Tech and why experiential crypto products are capturing attention.
We also dive into Zora’s memecoin experiment—is this the cleanest way to launch a token? Plus, Lore founder Thomas Scaria unveils a new on-chain hedge fund platform, aiming to bring trust and transparency to crypto investing. With crypto gaming, memecoins, and onchain finance all heating up, we explore what’s actually working in crypto right now. Tune in for insights, bold takes, and the latest trends shaping the space.
This episode unpacks:
- The Game Show That Pays You to Play? Inside Rek Tech’s Wild, Wild Crypto Experiment
- Zora Just Launched a Memecoin—Is This the Future of Crypto Tokens?
- On-Chain Hedge Funds Are Here—Will They Replace Traditional
- Is Crypto Gaming the Next Big Crypto Trend? Inside the Rek Tech Experiment
- The Ownership Economy Is Dead? Zora’s Token Experiment Says Otherwise
- Forget Governance—Memecoins Are the Future of Crypto Tokens
- Crypto Games, Memecoins & On-Chain Investing—Where Crypto is Headed Next
- Jess and Josh dive into the broader trend of ephemeral on-chain experiences and what it takes to build long-term compounding value in crypto.
Chapters:
00:00 — Intro & Friday Vibes – Jess & Josh set the stage
02:09 — Crypto Gaming Trends: Crypto the Game & Experiential Tokens
03:39 — Introducing Krish Jagirdar: The Evolution from Internet Game to Rec Tech
08:09 — What Makes Rec Tech Different? Prize Pools, Memes & Community
13:24 — How to Play: Dream Pass, Daily Games & Season 1 Details
19:42 — The Rise of Ephemeral Crypto Games & Attention Economy
23:35 — Zora’s Meme Coin Strategy: Smart Move or Legal Hurdle?
28:01 — Should TikTok Go On-Chain? Alexis Ohanian’s Big Idea
34:07 — Fully Automated Firms: AI-Run Companies & the Future of Work
43:00 — On-Chain Funds with Thomas Scaria: Inside Lore’s New Model
51:08 — The Future of Crypto Investing: On-Chain Funds & Tokenized Economies
58:44 — Final Thoughts & What’s Next for Internet Explorers
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